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so nobody know which version will success.
I have no courage to test the function by buy or sell my bts. maybe tomorrow the price is totally different.
All I can do is do nothing before I know it is success.

Quote from: bytemaster on January 29, 2014, 05:56:46 am

Quote from: alt on January 29, 2014, 05:55:06 am

Quote from: bytemaster on January 29, 2014, 05:26:58 am

Yes, we are preparing a mass mailing on this topic.  If BitShares X Test is successful we will simply drop the Test from the name, if it fails in some manner that is unrecoverable then a new snapshot will be used.   Thus the value of the BTS (and BitUSD etc) in the test chain must factor in probability of catastrophic failure and reset of the chain.  It should go up over time as the likelihood of failure decreases. 

This process of launching test networks that "might be final release" networks will continue until all bugs are found.  This is necessary because for a test network to function it must have a non-0 value otherwise bitasset evaluation results in divide by 0 errors.   

Note that having many parallel chains was always in the plan and a version 2 chain with variable interest rates set by market forces will come out later as well.  So some bugs that result in the launch of a new chain may not mean the complete death of the initial test chain.  If the initial test chain has any residual value or can be 'patched' then it might take on a life of its own.

very confuse...
 

How can a clarify?

You can test with only a little bts.
The price will remain irrational, and as the possibility to success goes up, the price will continuously become more and more rational. Everybody has time to adjust.
After all, testing only a little is safe.

Quote from: bytemaster on January 29, 2014, 01:46:53 am

Quote from: mitao on January 29, 2014, 12:38:16 am

So it is test chain only? If the test is working well, will there be another snapshot, or just using the snapshot on Feb 28th?
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If it works well then it will have much value, if it fails there will be a new snapshot. 

There will of course be many other chains and snapshots.

Be sure to consider the serious risk that our Feb 28th chain, BitShares XT, could simply work the first time and thus enjoy a first-mover network effect all its own.   

Murphy's Law applies to itself too:
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong unless you are counting on it to go wrong."

The same thought. But isn't it run on the central server?



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To the moon

The forum is full of  in just one day.
Does the " " stand for "earn 5% per year on everything"?

Quote from: bytemaster on January 19, 2014, 06:04:34 am

Their profit model is that of bitcoin, asset appreciation.

100% of revenue is paid to miners.

A *more* important question for them is will it be more profitable to implement BitShares on top of Ethereum or with its own chain?   As a developer building a new DAC I would have to conclude I could lower expenses and increase revenue and decentralization by building my own chain.   One time development costs are nothing compared to the life time a DAC is designed to operate an the value of that DAC.

I agree with the latter.

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100% of revenue is paid to miners.

You are right from a labor theory of value standpoint In the end most people profit form price increase due to demand increase due to (potential) usability.

But I dont get the ROI model. Bitcoin has stepped up to be a currency for day to day transactions and a store of value (right now mostly valued because of its network strength). But ethereum advertises itself with being just a base layer so no services like bitcoin (basic money transfer) so there would be no value if nothing i built upon it. How do they want to avoid that I come along build on it and dont let ether holders profit from it? And how could I let the ether holders profit from it?

bytemaster, are you sure the system doesn't allow to have a separate chain but still using it/building upon it?

They can answer it, if they can prove that to implement Bitshares on top of ethereum and share the common metacoin with the other DACs such as third-party brand DomainShares (just for example) would make it more competitive than to implement on its own chain and own metacoin. And may the absence of distributed HTTP protocol be the reason?

And this will also answer another question: Why it will be more competitive to implement on ethereum than a copycat of it (let's say, ethereum_2, ethereum_3)?

Ethers do be precious. Ethereum is not just a metacoin. It's also used to drive the contracts( machines that executes the bytecodes). So the need for ether will surely increase, What I don't understand is: Who will execute the bytecodes? In other words, who are the contracts?

And I think one of the problems of ethereum is that: the blockchain will be dumped all by similar bytecodes repeatedly.

Is there some misunderstanding I took?

怎么又提前了不是说在2月28号才放出吗？

2 月 28 号是比较完整的。二月一号这个是非常粗糙的。二月一号这个也有可能被取消，专注于二月二十八号版本。

Great!

So we will just test this feature(BTS X allocated to AGS/PTS) or also including other features of Bitshares X at Feb 28th test?

Thanks.

Quote from: bytemaster on January 26, 2014, 01:51:02 pm

The last BTC and PTS block on feb 28 th will be used for the snapshot of the bitshares XT blockchain.  This will be the first feature complete test network. 




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To my understanding, it's a feature complete version and we will test and report bugs for all the features.
Cuz, for BTS genesis block allocation only, you don't need a whole test network.
(Or, you can wait for bytemaster himself to confirm this.)

希望能一炮打响
所以出来之前的测试太重要了，我是不懂没法参与了，希望懂行的朋友们多多找碴

bytemaster 说 大概二月一号左右的时候会放出 alpha 测试客户端全民参与～