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Other => Graveyard => KeyID => Topic started by: biophil on October 08, 2014, 02:51:21 pm

Title: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: biophil on October 08, 2014, 02:51:21 pm
Looks like at the moment only 800M DNS have been claimed from genesis (out of 5B total). That means DNS is currently trading with a low float - relatively few outstanding shares. An additional 1M of sales on Bter would push the price down below 190 satoshi; the first significant buy wall (on Bter) is at 162, and it only has 2M DNS. Of course, Bter isn't the only exchange and just because the orders aren't there doesn't mean the demand isn't there. So these numbers only give us a lower bound on demand.

Anyway, I've a hunch that the price will slide downward pretty steadily until features are launched. Some of this will be people waking up and saying "hey! I have cash sitting there from the snapshot that I can pay my credit card bill with!" And some of it will be people gambling, like I am, that the price has not hit the bottom yet.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: fav on October 08, 2014, 03:01:08 pm
I follow the very same strategy I use with bitshares. wait and get rich eventually... :)
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: Akado on October 08, 2014, 04:32:54 pm
the lower, the better  :D

Btw, could we have KeyID price on top of the forums like we have for btsx?
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: speedy on October 08, 2014, 10:24:30 pm
Do we know when kick-off is for the DNS genesis block?
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: Riverhead on October 08, 2014, 11:00:20 pm
It's already been cast.
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: liondani on October 08, 2014, 11:06:32 pm
if the marketing boost for bitshares begins and the unclaimed stakes for DNS are still remaining on these levels, prepare to meet our friends from outer-space....

(http://hplusmagazine.com/sites/default/files/images/blog/jan10/extraterrestrial.jpg)

Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: TruthTaco on October 14, 2014, 04:25:34 pm
How do you tell how many have been claimed?
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on October 14, 2014, 04:37:21 pm
Anyway, I've a hunch that the price will slide downward pretty steadily until features are launched. Some of this will be people waking up and saying "hey! I have cash sitting there from the snapshot that I can pay my credit card bill with!" And some of it will be people gambling, like I am, that the price has not hit the bottom yet.

Thoughts?

Agreed.
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on October 14, 2014, 04:41:20 pm
How do you tell how many have been claimed?
http://104.131.241.162/home

it tells everything
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: svk on October 14, 2014, 06:37:10 pm
How do you tell how many have been claimed?
http://104.131.241.162/home

it tells everything
http://dns.bitsharesblocks.com is even better ;)
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: cass on October 14, 2014, 07:11:48 pm
I follow the very same strategy I use with bitshares. wait and get rich eventually... :)

Hehe welcome back favdesu. Sry didn't noticed you before! But saw you just came back in august :)! Great you're back again…just said…
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: theoretical on October 15, 2014, 09:30:22 pm
My guess is that the low float also has something to do with re-branding as KeyID.  I've stayed far away from Keyhotee stuff because I'm not really enthusiastic about their business model for a variety of reasons.  So a lot of people probably just skip this subforum in the list.  I'm kind of a forum regular and I didn't know about the re-branding or the launch until Toast told me directly in a private conversation.

The point is, I think the float is so low because people just don't know about the DNS launch.  There has been so little marketing that even people like me, who follow the forum closely, weren't aware of it!



Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: biophil on October 15, 2014, 09:52:30 pm
My guess is that the low float also has something to do with re-branding as KeyID.  I've stayed far away from Keyhotee stuff because I'm not really enthusiastic about their business model for a variety of reasons.  So a lot of people probably just skip this subforum in the list.  I'm kind of a forum regular and I didn't know about the re-branding or the launch until Toast told me directly in a private conversation.

The point is, I think the float is so low because people just don't know about the DNS launch.  There has been so little marketing that even people like me, who follow the forum closely, weren't aware of it!

Yes, and from what I'm gathering around the forums, the lack of marketing/awareness is intentional; they're not hyping a product that has no implemented features yet.
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: liondani on October 15, 2014, 10:11:11 pm
worst case scenario for a "product" that is better or will be better than namecoin very soon...
... is to reach namecoins current marketcap... So I think the price will double before next year  ;)
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: Stan on October 15, 2014, 10:11:42 pm
My guess is that the low float also has something to do with re-branding as KeyID.  I've stayed far away from Keyhotee stuff because I'm not really enthusiastic about their business model for a variety of reasons.  So a lot of people probably just skip this subforum in the list.  I'm kind of a forum regular and I didn't know about the re-branding or the launch until Toast told me directly in a private conversation.

The point is, I think the float is so low because people just don't know about the DNS launch.  There has been so little marketing that even people like me, who follow the forum closely, weren't aware of it!

Yes, and from what I'm gathering around the forums, the lack of marketing/awareness is intentional; they're not hyping a product that has no implemented features yet.

DAC's go through two phases:

1.  The investment phase where speculators are able to trade stakes in the DAC while they watch it being developed and assess the progress of the development team. 

2.  The operational phase where the end customers are introduced to it and expect it to be a polished end product or service.  No point in attracting these people until those conditions have been met.

We assume speculators are smart enough to find us during the investment phase without mass marketing.  Why spend money to attract more speculators to raise the price at which we are all still buying?

 ;)
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: Chuckone on October 15, 2014, 10:17:26 pm
Right! I still don't understand why people would sell at this point in time...
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: clayop on October 15, 2014, 10:27:33 pm
worst case scenario for a "product" that is better or will be better than namecoin very soon...
... is to reach namecoins current marketcap... So I think the price will double before next year  ;)

If  .p2p domains can be used by default (meaning that people don't have to do additional settings to reach that domain), DNS market cap will increase more than namecoin, since .bit address requires some settings. I remember toast mentioned about this, but not sure it is technically possible.

How come .p2p can be used by default?
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: hammurabi on October 15, 2014, 11:55:15 pm
How come .p2p can be used by default?

For .p2p domains to be hassle-free they must be included into the Top Level Domain registry.
The registry is very reluctant to add any new TLD.
The request must be well supported, documented and reasoned.
Title: Re: DNS price likely to fall in the short term?
Post by: carpet ride on October 16, 2014, 01:00:33 am

if the marketing boost for bitshares begins and the unclaimed stakes for DNS are still remaining on these levels, prepare to meet our friends from outer-space....

(http://hplusmagazine.com/sites/default/files/images/blog/jan10/extraterrestrial.jpg)

Haha +5%


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