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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: Erlich Bachman on August 02, 2015, 08:26:43 pm
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http://www.coindesk.com/eris-coo-private-and-public-blockchains-need-to-co-exist/
Yes, none other than the bitMarmot Man himself:
ttp://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/17/dont-walk-away-run/
Here is his new website:
https://erisindustries.com/
I wonder how much further along in his development process he would be if he had not wasted 6 months of his life bashing BitShares? Why did he suddenly change his tune? I guess we'll never know. First he laughed at us, then fought us... now:
(https://blog.erisindustries.com/assets/2015/doug-c0c8d3adc1796ff5da42566e1340b961.png) (https://docs.erisindustries.com/tutorials/)
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I think PB's whole thing has been that he wants companies to use the blockchain for a smart ledger system. His new outfit calls this smart contracts, but I'll bet you he sees it primarily as a ledger for banks, etc. He's right that it's certainly usable that way, but he's repeatedly failed to comprehend the greater possibilities. And he's proven himself a real jackass in denouncing these without taking the time to understand their basics.
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He's right that the Bitcoin community is extremely narrow-minded. But he's only half a step ahead of them.
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They have a great website. :o
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He's right that the Bitcoin community is extremely narrow-minded. But he's only half a step ahead of them.
Half a step ahead is still ahead...
Very interested in his movements though
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They have a great website. :o
Love this link: "Learn more about Cuddly Marmots"
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pretty disappointing BTS bashing from PB, nothing of substance, but lots of annoying language to compel readers to agree with opinion for opinion's sake. every point against BTS or our products should be listed as a legitimate risk item, not a condemnation of the concept. we're experimenting with new financial technology, of course it's going to be risky; that's no reason not to keep experimenting and improving.
viva la BTS!
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pretty disappointing BTS bashing from PB, nothing of substance, but lots of annoying language to compel readers to agree with opinion for opinion's sake. every point against BTS or our products should be listed as a legitimate risk item, not a condemnation of the concept. we're experimenting with new financial technology, of course it's going to be risky; that's no reason not to keep experimenting and improving.
viva la BTS!
+5%
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pretty disappointing BTS bashing from PB, nothing of substance, but lots of annoying language to compel readers to agree with opinion for opinion's sake. every point against BTS or our products should be listed as a legitimate risk item, not a condemnation of the concept. we're experimenting with new financial technology, of course it's going to be risky; that's no reason not to keep experimenting and improving.
viva la BTS!
He misunderstood a few concepts. Also he made out BitAssets probably wouldn't survive a 50% price decline but BTS fell over 90% peak to trough and the peg held. So he's mostly been proven wrong.
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pretty disappointing BTS bashing from PB, nothing of substance, but lots of annoying language to compel readers to agree with opinion for opinion's sake. every point against BTS or our products should be listed as a legitimate risk item, not a condemnation of the concept. we're experimenting with new financial technology, of course it's going to be risky; that's no reason not to keep experimenting and improving.
viva la BTS!
He misunderstood a few concepts. Also he made out BitAssets probably wouldn't survive a 50% price decline but BTS fell over 90% peak to trough and the peg held. So he's mostly been proven wrong.
great point...bitassets surviving a 90% BTS plunge is a hell of a real world stress test! how do you think they'll handle a 900% price jump?
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pretty disappointing BTS bashing from PB, nothing of substance, but lots of annoying language to compel readers to agree with opinion for opinion's sake. every point against BTS or our products should be listed as a legitimate risk item, not a condemnation of the concept. we're experimenting with new financial technology, of course it's going to be risky; that's no reason not to keep experimenting and improving.
viva la BTS!
It's vested interest talking.. when ever you have a better mouse trap, there is always someone from the old guard crying over it not being theirs.
It's human nature.
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pretty disappointing BTS bashing from PB, nothing of substance, but lots of annoying language to compel readers to agree with opinion for opinion's sake. every point against BTS or our products should be listed as a legitimate risk item, not a condemnation of the concept. we're experimenting with new financial technology, of course it's going to be risky; that's no reason not to keep experimenting and improving.
viva la BTS!
It's vested interest talking.. when ever you have a better mouse trap, there is always someone from the old guard crying over it not being theirs.
It's human nature.
yeah, one of the negative aspects of human nature
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He's right that the Bitcoin community is extremely narrow-minded. But he's only half a step ahead of them.
I think this
His criticism of BTS can be summarized as "it is not actually profitable so it is bad collateral" which is TRUE, he just didn't see how it could possibly become true with more development, and chose a bad tone. To be fair the messaging at the time made BTS look like an outright scam.
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He's right that the Bitcoin community is extremely narrow-minded. But he's only half a step ahead of them.
I think this
His criticism of BTS can be summarized as "it is not actually profitable so it is bad collateral" which is TRUE, he just didn't see how it could possibly become true with more development, and chose a bad tone. To be fair the messaging at the time made BTS look like an outright scam.
He was trying to kill an idea in its inception thinking he was righteous. His evil ridicule (pure violence) would not be possible without in the background making a rationalization that he's a skeptical warrior serving the absolute truth. Typically, the ones holding skepticism as an unlimited virtue are self-medicating from being trolled in the past.
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He's right that the Bitcoin community is extremely narrow-minded. But he's only half a step ahead of them.
I think this
His criticism of BTS can be summarized as "it is not actually profitable so it is bad collateral" which is TRUE, he just didn't see how it could possibly become true with more development, and chose a bad tone. To be fair the messaging at the time made BTS look like an outright scam.
great points, but i'd just say that as long as there's a USD-BTS market with price > 0 then BTS can function as legitimate collateral. i wasn't around in this community at the beginning, but i can see how the initial marketing messages could raise red flags.
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ttp://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/17/dont-walk-away-run/
This is about the sixth result when searching "BitShares". I'm looking forward to the day when it no longer appears on the first page of results...
It's surely a very powerful piece in it's ability to make people 'run away' if they begin to look into BitShares. It's a shame to have such a stumbling block putting people off before they've managed to discover how awesome BitShares is.
It'd be nice to have a respected 'outsider' with a high profile to counter this article.
edit: to spoil link to preston byrne's website so as not to feed it to google (as mentioned below)
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[link removed]
This is about the sixth result when searching "BitShares". I'm looking forward to the day when it no longer appears on the first page of results...
It's surely a very powerful piece in it's ability to make people 'run away' if they begin to look into BitShares. It's a shame to have such a stumbling block putting people off before they've managed to discover how awesome BitShares is.
It'd be nice to have a respected 'outsider' with a high profile to counter this article.
yeah it'll be great when Bitshares really takes off and that article is just a part of our history, not front-page stuff. the good news is that we have had a prolonged opportunity to buy at prices that will hopefully end up being low...
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Link removed
This is about the sixth result when searching "BitShares". I'm looking forward to the day when it no longer appears on the first page of results...
It's surely a very powerful piece in it's ability to make people 'run away' if they begin to look into BitShares. It's a shame to have such a stumbling block putting people off before they've managed to discover how awesome BitShares is.
It'd be nice to have a respected 'outsider' with a high profile to counter this article.
yeah it'll be great when Bitshares really takes off and that article is just a part of our history, not front-page stuff. the good news is that we have had a prolonged opportunity to buy at prices that will hopefully end up being low...
As long as we keep linking to it, it isn't going anywhere as google figures it must be an authority on the subject if we keep linking to it
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As long as we keep linking to it, it isn't going anywhere as google figures it must be an authority on the subject if we keep linking to it
Very good point. I've now spoiled the link in my post (a few posts up) so it looks like:
http://SCREWprestonbyrne.com/2014/08/17/dont-walk-away-run/
That should be OK, right?
@cylonmaker2053 - perhaps you'd like to modify the link in your post too?
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Link removed
This is about the sixth result when searching "BitShares". I'm looking forward to the day when it no longer appears on the first page of results...
It's surely a very powerful piece in it's ability to make people 'run away' if they begin to look into BitShares. It's a shame to have such a stumbling block putting people off before they've managed to discover how awesome BitShares is.
It'd be nice to have a respected 'outsider' with a high profile to counter this article.
yeah it'll be great when Bitshares really takes off and that article is just a part of our history, not front-page stuff. the good news is that we have had a prolonged opportunity to buy at prices that will hopefully end up being low...
As long as we keep linking to it, it isn't going anywhere as google figures it must be an authority on the subject if we keep linking to it
ha! damned good point!
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What links would we want to appear on page 1?
It probably wouldn't take more than a few days to get the front page corrected with more accurate and relevant links if just a few of us linked some of these from various sites and comment sections..
Here are some that are listed on page 2, 3 and beyond (in global results) that could probably use a little nudge:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Main_Page
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/History
https://twitter.com/_bitshares
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChtICzF0ZEhhgoMA8YWhULw
https://followmyvote.com/
http://www.bitsharesmusicfoundation.org/
http://pool.minebitshares.com/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084460.0
https://beyondbitcoin.org/
https://voat.co/v/smartcoin
https://blocktrades.us/
https://metaexchange.info/
https://www.ccedk.com/bts-usd
...and then there is this one - which will rank near the top as soon as it gets published:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bitshares
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And/or have a mod remove all references of the link on this forum and watch it drop off the first page in a week or so, put the link in google and include site:bitsharestalk.org and see all the times we linked to it
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And/or have a mod remove all references of the link on this forum and watch it drop off the first page in a week or so, put the link in google and include site:bitsharestalk.org and see all the times we linked to it
Broke the link to the marmot page in the OP, as we have done in the past at the request of community members so as not to give them higher search rankings. OP if you are unhappy with this, feel free to change it back and I won't edit your posts again.
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@cylonmaker2053 - in your post here (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17815.msg227374.html#msg227374) you've quoted me. Unfortunately my post which you quoted had the link to the article which we don't like. I've since modified my link. I wonder, would you mind editing the link in your quote too?
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@cylonmaker2053 - in your post here (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17815.msg227374.html#msg227374) you've quoted me. Unfortunately my post which you quoted had the link to the article which we don't like. I've since modified my link. I wonder, would you mind editing the link in your quote too?
sir, yes sir...done!