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Please point out any glaring mistakes. So, here it is: http://i.cubeupload.com/J02n9J.jpg
Quote from: Damelon on January 18, 2015, 05:38:42 pmHello people,As promised, an updated chart.I've also put it on our Reddit with an explanation why it's updated.Tweet will go out soon.Please point out any glaring mistakes. There are a few areas where things are debatable, because definitions of some features differ across projects. If we can come to consensus on definitions, that helps, otherwise, we should probably put that in somewhere to at least make clear we're not dealing with comparable entities.So, here it is: http://i.cubeupload.com/J02n9J.jpgI won't clog up the thread with a big pic Not bad, but BitShares does have "profit sharing/dividends". It does profit sharing in the form of burning of transaction fees and fees for user issued assets, fees for delegate registration and there may be some other fees I'm not aware of. These fees are all burned and reduce the supply of BTS which equates to profit sharing as these are DAC income streams and benefit everyone in proportion to their stake.Marketplace and smartcontracts are AFAIK in the works. I thought multisig was already up and runnng? Not sure.What is "account control"?Thanks for doing the modifications.
Hello people,As promised, an updated chart.I've also put it on our Reddit with an explanation why it's updated.Tweet will go out soon.Please point out any glaring mistakes. There are a few areas where things are debatable, because definitions of some features differ across projects. If we can come to consensus on definitions, that helps, otherwise, we should probably put that in somewhere to at least make clear we're not dealing with comparable entities.So, here it is: http://i.cubeupload.com/J02n9J.jpgI won't clog up the thread with a big pic
Quote from: Damelon on January 18, 2015, 09:49:48 pmQuote from: xeroc on January 18, 2015, 08:54:42 pmMultisig is close to been release but not yet on the main net .. so the infogfx might get outdated pretty soon That's the reason that I asked them to keep updating this chart for at least three months.I expect this chart to be constantly outdated, which is a nice testament to the pace of development we're all going through Sweet idea ...
Quote from: xeroc on January 18, 2015, 08:54:42 pmMultisig is close to been release but not yet on the main net .. so the infogfx might get outdated pretty soon That's the reason that I asked them to keep updating this chart for at least three months.I expect this chart to be constantly outdated, which is a nice testament to the pace of development we're all going through
Multisig is close to been release but not yet on the main net .. so the infogfx might get outdated pretty soon
Quote from: Damelon on January 18, 2015, 05:38:42 pmHello people,As promised, an updated chart. Please point out any glaring mistakes.http://i.cubeupload.com/J02n9J.jpgMarketplace and smartcontracts are AFAIK in the works. I thought multisig was already up and running? Not sure.What is "account control"?
Hello people,As promised, an updated chart. Please point out any glaring mistakes.http://i.cubeupload.com/J02n9J.jpg
Welcome Damelon Quote from: Damelon on January 16, 2015, 09:46:25 pmDan's article http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/article/2015/01/03/Cooperation-Amoung-Crypto-Projects/ suggests we not burn each other to the ground each time we encounter a perceived slight, and I agree with that. There're bigger fish to fry.I fully agree
Dan's article http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/article/2015/01/03/Cooperation-Amoung-Crypto-Projects/ suggests we not burn each other to the ground each time we encounter a perceived slight, and I agree with that. There're bigger fish to fry.
There's no need to waste time trying to educate the clueless western marketoid fanboys of NXT, NXT is in a death spiral with falling trading volume and market cap ... Just let the nature take its course ...
Hello people,I am the one who commissioned this chart, mainly because there wasn't anything like it around.Believe it or not, I have clearly stated that the chart should be correct.I will also make sure that it wíll get redistributed on twitter wíth corrections.When the first versions were made, it was very clearly biased towards Nxt (larger logo, Nxt in the middle, facts kept out etc), something which I said I would not pay for as that's not the purpose of it.Of course, because it's posted from the Nxt Forums and Nxt Twitter accounts, it's quite normal for people to think that it will be Nxt biased. Suspicion in the crypto world is rather wide-spread and in the FUD-rich scene we operate in, it's understandable.I will take the gratuitous insults in this thread in that light then.For the rest: judge by actions, please. The changes, once checked, will be made. I would like to ask that when made, you at least grant us that much.Dan's article http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/article/2015/01/03/Cooperation-Amoung-Crypto-Projects/ suggests we not burn each other to the ground each time we encounter a perceived slight, and I agree with that. There're bigger fish to fry.Hope that clears these things up somewhat and I hope you will keep us on our toes with this.
Quote from: CLains on January 16, 2015, 09:32:04 pmQuote from: xeroc on January 16, 2015, 08:09:51 pmhttp://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/2siow4/a_comparison_between_known_crypto_20_platforms/Quote from: svk on January 16, 2015, 09:18:00 pmI just couldn't resist, registered on their forum and made a LOOONG post to give them some better info..Great work xeroc and svk! Link to NXT forum thread here. We will get this fixed in no-time, and then we got NXTers spreading the gospel on how awesome our platform is as well Correction: Network Security Costs... fraction of transaction fees. Delegate pay does not impact security.
Quote from: xeroc on January 16, 2015, 08:09:51 pmhttp://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/2siow4/a_comparison_between_known_crypto_20_platforms/Quote from: svk on January 16, 2015, 09:18:00 pmI just couldn't resist, registered on their forum and made a LOOONG post to give them some better info..Great work xeroc and svk! Link to NXT forum thread here. We will get this fixed in no-time, and then we got NXTers spreading the gospel on how awesome our platform is as well
http://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/2siow4/a_comparison_between_known_crypto_20_platforms/
I just couldn't resist, registered on their forum and made a LOOONG post to give them some better info..
Quote from: cass on January 13, 2015, 01:58:11 pmmaybe considering to add ethereum also! Just said… Do we really know anything about Ethereum for certain?
maybe considering to add ethereum also! Just said…
Quote from: Daedelus on January 11, 2015, 03:17:27 pmDan Larimer describes Bitshares as "a distributed multi-user database" in his blogpost "What is Bitshares?".http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/update/2014/12/18/What-is-BitShares/I agree with him, it is too much of a stretch to call it decentralized.Thanks. I was doubting about Bitshares as well. Thanks for this confirmation.
I complain about it on reddit/r/nxt ..
I was pretty sure that blocktimes for bitshares were 5-10 seconds....is this incorrect?
Quote from: xeroc on January 13, 2015, 12:42:48 pmBitShares has - anonymous transactions are functional since the beginningBitshares is not private yet. See: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13155.msg172745#msg172745
BitShares has - anonymous transactions are functional since the beginning
I'm also surprised to learn that Bitcoin has market pegged assets while Bitshares' is "under development".
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