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Main => Stakeholder Proposals => Topic started by: shaoping on January 13, 2015, 11:00:32 am
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Yunbi exchange TWO 100% developer delegates proposal: d1.yunbi ; d2.yunbi
Long story short for those who don't have time to read:
As an exchange, we have made many contributions to BTS ecosystem. Here we apply for two 100% delegates. We will use the delegate income to improve existing service, such as upgrading BTS trading interface, adding BTS/BTC trading pair, offering free BTS faucet, and conducting new technology development including web wallet, offline BTS transaction, etc.
vote for us: wallet_account_set_approval d1.yunbi true
wallet_account_set_approval d2.yunbi true
Who are we?
We are Yunbi(https://yunbi.com (https://yunbi.com)), a cryptocurrency exchange with good reputation in Chinese community. We have always been in close contact with Chinese Bitshares community, and has been trying our utmosts to promote Bitshares in China.
All the team members of Yunbi exchange are core developers in Peatio project (http://peat.io). Coming from Ruby China, they are energetic activists, passionate on programming and experts in creating software.
Yunbi exchange promise more support to BTS community in 2015. Here we apply for two 100% BTS delegates: d1.yunbi ; d2.yunbi . Please vote for us!
What we have done?
★★★ We are one of the earliest exchanges that enable BTS trading, and now the second largest BTS exchange in the world.
100% solvency
High-performance matching engine
Zero fee
Excellent user experience
Secure operation
These are the reasons why Yunbi exchange has become the best choice for BTS fans.
We also support English version and have enabled SMS verification in most countries, offering global users a more secure trading platform.
★★ We added BitCNY/CNY market.
BitCNY/CNY trading, which connects internal and external exchanges more closely, improves the accuracy of market anchoring and enriches BTS ecosystem.
In addition to running a BTS exchange, we participated in BTS ecosystem and made developments at multiple levels:
★★★★ We open sourced Yunbi and made it to be the best open source exchange project -- Peatio.
With Peatio project, cryptocurrency enthusiasts can build their own exchange easily and quickly with low cost. As far as we know, there are already six cryptocurrency exchanges powered by Peatio. BTS fans can also make use of Peatio to build secure BTS exchanges.
We believe that making it easy to build an exchange means a lot to people who are interested in BitAssets and willing to get and use BitAssets. Using Peatio’s open-sourced code, BTS acceptance dealers can build their own BTS exchanges. The more distributed the acceptance dealers are, the more accurate the BTS market anchoring will be.
For more information, please visit Peatio’s Github page: https://github.com/peatio/peatio
★ We issued YUN asset in Bitshares system, and we're the first company to build points system based on BitAsset.
YUN asset has been applied to the points system of Yunbi exchange, YUN Tipping, and has become the default payment method on YUN Store(www.yunaigou.com). We are continuing to explore more application cases of BitAsset.
★★ We developed YUN Tipping.
YUN Tipping has become hot app on Weibo(NASDAQ: WB, Chinese twitter, 530million users). So far our users have created more than 4000 tippings and delivered more than 6.5million YUN, which greatly increased the popularity of BTS in China.
★★ We opened a YUN Store(www.yunaigou.com).
There are more than 20 products for users to choose(and the list is still growing). At Yun Store, souvenirs, books, and even mobile phones are available to buy via YUN asset. In the first week of running, we had received more than 20 orders.
YUN Store is the first e-shop that supports BitAsset payment, and it is still in rapid growing.
★★★ We developed 1-click-tipping system, which will be released very soon.
Through this 1-click-tipping system, user can send others a tip using BitAssets on forum, blog, website and many other media or social communities. It has the potential to become a cross-platform points system and it could be a nice try to expand user cases of BitAssets.
What will we do for Bitshares?
★★★★★ BTS web wallet.
Web wallet will support all BitAssets, and will have general functions including receipt, payment, scanning address, etc. With web wallet, BTS users can get rid of the frequent updates of wallet, which will vastly improve user experience.
★★★★ Developing offline BTS transaction function.
It is a simplified exchange, making BTS trading more easy.
It can be applied to ATM in the future. When user deposits fiat currency, they can get BitAssets.
It is also beneficial to ATM providers, encouraging more people to provide ATM equipments. This can be a brand new world, and we may get incredible paybacks in the future.
★★ Improving BTS trading interface of Yunbi.
Provide internal exchange price, make arbitrages easily and enhance market anchoring.
★★ Supporting BTS/BTC pairs, thus users can buy BitAsset with BTC easily.
★ Offering free BTS faucet.
Once you sign up on Yunbi exchange , your Yunbi account will receive 1 BTS for your BTS account registration.
So we apply for two 100% delegates: d1.yunbi ; d2.yunbi .
The income will be used to fund the development of functions mentioned above.
We highly appreciate all your support, please vote to help us make Bitshares better!
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Great news, +5%
I believe you are who you say you are, but some proof of identity would be great..
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My vote for Yunbi! +5%
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+5% voted - if you need anything gfx related, don't hesitate to ping anytime!
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I emailed yunbi support from the email address on yunbi exchange and got a reply confirming this is their proposal.
Will vote as soon as I can!
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Great news! +5%
What do you think of BM's blogpost regarding the future of exchanges?
http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/article/2015/01/05/The-Future-of-Crypto-Currency-Exchanges/
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I emailed yunbi support from the email address on yunbi exchange and got a reply confirming this is their proposal.
Will vote as soon as I can!
Sorry to make you feel unreliable...we should have post this with an official account...But no worries, shaoping is a marketing staff @yunbi.com, i am too. You can trust us!
other members of yunbi on this forum are: lgn21st, janx. They are developers of Yunbi.
Thank you for your support! :D
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Voted :)
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adding you to my slate
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I talked about YUN days ago:
UIA as tips.
There is a small exchange in China called YUNBI https://yunbi.com/?lang=en (https://yunbi.com/?lang=en) providing BTS/CNY and BitCNY/CNY trading pairs. It issued a bitasset YUN which can be found and traded in BTS wallet easily.
You will get YUN for free when you make a deposit in YUNBI. Things become interesting after you link your Weibo (you can see it as the twitter in China) with your YUNBI account. Every time you post a weibo saying you want to sent a specific amount of YUN to someone, the YUN will be transferred from your YUNBI account to his, even if he doesn't has an account in YUNBI (the YUN will be reserved for him till he creates an account and link it to Weibo).
With YUN you can buy something from YUN store, like coffer, mug, T-shirt, Iphone, Kindle,etc.
BitCNY/BitUSD/BitBTC can be easily implemented to this tipping system.
It would be great if we have similar things on twitter/reddit/bitsharestalk.
I emailed yunbi support from the email address on yunbi exchange and got a reply confirming this is their proposal.
Will vote as soon as I can!
Sorry to make you feel unreliable...we should have post this with an official account...But no worries, shaoping is a marketing staff @yunbi.com, i am too. You can trust us!
other members of yunbi on this forum are: lgn21st, janx. They are developers of Yunbi.
Thank you for your support! :D
栗子要常上论坛呀,多多招呼老外顾客。
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I here by confirm the OP is who he said he was .
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Great initiative !!!
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i understand the use of fund for d2 but that of d1 was presented clearly enough.
some more exact details on that point would help :)
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i understand the use of fund for d2 but that of d1 was presented clearly enough.
some more exact details on that point would help :)
D1 is for increasing user experience related to BTS , including turning the Yunbi exchange into the window of the Bitshares inside exchange .
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Okay thanks.
And i meant "wasnt" bbut u got it anyway
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This is great, we definitely need to support yunbi!
I don't understand the light wallet part... You want to develop a light wallet seperate from the official bitshares light wallet?
What about yunbiCNY asset? That's what our ecosystem really needs to thrive. If we can trade CNY on yunbi directly with bitCNY from the client itself then the peg can start to be enforced very strongly... Maybe the light wallet is meant to be a browser wallet directly on your website? That would be insanely amazing.
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This is great, we definitely need to support yunbi!
I don't understand the light wallet part... You want to develop a light wallet seperate from the official bitshares light wallet?
What about yunbiCNY asset? That's what our ecosystem really needs to thrive. If we can trade CNY on yunbi directly with bitCNY from the client itself then the peg can start to be enforced very strongly... Maybe the light wallet is meant to be a browser wallet directly on your website? That would be insanely amazing.
They're top grade ruby programmers , so website version would be a good guess .
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I count on YUNBI.COM to accelerate the development of light wallet, which is the first priority for current BTS ecosystem.
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Will your YUN Store(www.yunaigou.com) be translated to english? Where do you ship to?
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Will your YUN Store(www.yunaigou.com) be translated to english? Where do you ship to?
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the shipping part is too much trouble , I think .
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Very good news!
Voted d1.yunbi and d2.yunbi
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1) Would be awesome if D1 allowed the 'powered by BitShares' logo on the website.
2) From the light wallet, I guess it means its possible to have an online, decentralized exchange? It would be great if the proposal leads to that.
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Nice plan. I'll vote for you!
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+5% added you to my slate
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As an exchange, we have made many contributions to BTS ecosystem. Here we apply for two 100% delegates: d1.yunbi ; d2yunbi. We will use the delegate income to improve existing service, such as upgrading BTS trading interface, adding BTS/BTC trading pair ,offering free BTS faucet , and conduct new technology development , such as web wallet, offline BTS transaction.
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As an exchange, we have made many contributions to BTS ecosystem. Here we apply for two 100% delegates: d1.yunbi ; d2yunbi. We will use the delegate income to improve existing service, such as upgrading BTS trading interface, adding BTS/BTC trading pair ,offering free BTS faucet , and conduct new technology development , such as light wallet, offline BTS transaction.
What about bitUSD/CNY pair?
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As an exchange, we have made many contributions to BTS ecosystem. Here we apply for two 100% delegates: d1.yunbi ; d2yunbi. We will use the delegate income to improve existing service, such as upgrading BTS trading interface, adding BTS/BTC trading pair ,offering free BTS faucet , and conduct new technology development , such as light wallet, offline BTS transaction.
What about bitUSD/CNY pair?
For me I need bitCNY/BTS bitUSD/BTS pair most due to the insufficient wallet market depth. When the wallet are performing better then we will not need this anymore, because it's not safe to trade on centralized exchange. We only need gateway then.
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Will your YUN Store(www.yunaigou.com) be translated to english? Where do you ship to?
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Currently we only ship to China mainland... sorry :'(
We will definitely make YUN Store better in the future to satisfy more people's needs, but it's just not one of the top priorities, do you think so?
And most importantly, thank you for your support! ;)
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Gateway integration, more bitAsset pairs, and fiat pairs are top priorities
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Gateway integration, more bitAsset pairs, and fiat pairs are top priorities
Yes, we have plan already and we will add more trading pairs at the right time. ;D
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Will you do a CNY <-> BitCNY gateway? That is the one thing that would add tremendous value!
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i understand the use of fund for d2 but that of d1 was presented clearly enough.
some more exact details on that point would help :)
We have update post , it is easy to understand now. Thanks for your support !:D
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This is great, we definitely need to support yunbi!
I don't understand the light wallet part... You want to develop a light wallet seperate from the official bitshares light wallet?
What about yunbiCNY asset? That's what our ecosystem really needs to thrive. If we can trade CNY on yunbi directly with bitCNY from the client itself then the peg can start to be enforced very strongly... Maybe the light wallet is meant to be a browser wallet directly on your website? That would be insanely amazing.
We have update post , it is more easy to understand. What we plan to develop is web wallet. "Light wallet" is not the accurate expression. :D
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Very good news!
Voted d1.yunbi and d2.yunbi
Thanks for your support! :D
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1) Would be awesome if D1 allowed the 'powered by BitShares' logo on the website.
2) From the light wallet, I guess it means its possible to have an online, decentralized exchange? It would be great if the proposal leads to that.
It will be a web wallet. We have updated post , and it's more easy to understand now. Thanks for your support! :D
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Will you do a CNY <-> BitCNY gateway? That is the one thing that would add tremendous value!
Many BTS fans have suggest gateway. We will take it seriously. :D
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Will you also be listing DVS?
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Will you also be listing DVS?
it will be really hard to explain to the Chinese of a "legitimate theft" is ok on Devshares for which they will pay real money to buy if enlisted .
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Will you also be listing DVS?
it will be really hard to explain to the Chinese of a "legitimate theft" is ok on Devshares for which they will pay real money to buy if enlisted .
Will that be any easier to explain to the western folks?
Kind of serious question, no sarcasm intended.
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Will you also be listing DVS?
it will be really hard to explain to the Chinese of a "legitimate theft" is ok on Devshares for which they will pay real money to buy if enlisted .
Will that be any easier to explain to the western folks?
Kind of serious question, no sarcasm intended.
Because Yunbi is a Chinese exchange , so their client is majorly Chinese .....If US exchange want to enlist devshares , they'll find themselves facing this issue too from their US client .
especially for those who don't even know what devshares is and just buy them as investment . (I know , there should be a disclaimer , but even if that's the case , the client support team will be added extra burden to explain that )
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Will you also be listing DVS?
Now DVS as an investment asset is too radical for normal users. We and users need more time. ;D
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Will you also be listing DVS?
Now DVS as an investment asset is too radical for normal users. We and users need more time. ;D
Agreed, no need to list DVS yet, if ever.
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Now d1.yunbi ranks 106, d2.yunbi ranks 108 , please vote for us! Thanks for your support!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7o3-RUCIAAeDUd.png)
Please vote for d1.yunbi ; d2.yunbi. Up, up,up! :D
Thanks in advance.
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Maybe you should learn more about Peatio open source cryptocurrency exchange project which developed by our developers.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903246.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903246.0) So you can make sure about our development capabilities.
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♥UPDATE♥
106 & 107, we are getting really close!
Yunbi would be the first 100% delegate in Chinese community if we succeed!
We need your vote, and your support encourages us to never stop exploring or programming 8)
Thanks everyone, it feels awesome to be recognized and supported. We were not alone!
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1) Would be awesome if D1 allowed the 'powered by BitShares' logo on the website.
2) From the light wallet, I guess it means its possible to have an online, decentralized exchange? It would be great if the proposal leads to that.
It will be a web wallet. We have updated post , and it's more easy to understand now. Thanks for your support! :D
Cheers! You are almost there :)
Will you be giving some consideration to the *powered by BitShares tag? Cass will be making the logos soon.
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1) Would be awesome if D1 allowed the 'powered by BitShares' logo on the website.
2) From the light wallet, I guess it means its possible to have an online, decentralized exchange? It would be great if the proposal leads to that.
It will be a web wallet. We have updated post , and it's more easy to understand now. Thanks for your support! :D
Cheers! You are almost there :)
Will you be giving some consideration to the *powered by BitShares tag? Cass will be making the logos soon.
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I'm curious of that yunbi will add CNY<>bitUSD. If not, is there's any legal issue with the pair? Because I'm also interested in establishing gateway in the future (KRW<>bitUSD or bitKRW).
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1) Would be awesome if D1 allowed the 'powered by BitShares' logo on the website.
2) From the light wallet, I guess it means its possible to have an online, decentralized exchange? It would be great if the proposal leads to that.
It will be a web wallet. We have updated post , and it's more easy to understand now. Thanks for your support! :D
Cheers! You are almost there :)
Will you be giving some consideration to the *powered by BitShares tag? Cass will be making the logos soon.
We can add it on YUN asset page:https://yun.yunbi.com/?lang=zh-CN (https://yun.yunbi.com/?lang=zh-CN) Waiting for the tag :D
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1) Would be awesome if D1 allowed the 'powered by BitShares' logo on the website.
2) From the light wallet, I guess it means its possible to have an online, decentralized exchange? It would be great if the proposal leads to that.
It will be a web wallet. We have updated post , and it's more easy to understand now. Thanks for your support! :D
Cheers! You are almost there :)
Will you be giving some consideration to the *powered by BitShares tag? Cass will be making the logos soon.
We can add it on YUN asset page:https://yun.yunbi.com/?lang=zh-CN (https://yun.yunbi.com/?lang=zh-CN) Waiting for the tag :D
Thanks - thats awesome!
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will send you logo later this day ...
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will send you logo later this day ...
Thank you! my email:shaoping@peatio.com
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http://imgur.com/a/sBrlU
personally i like this bottom just plain one most !
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http://imgur.com/a/sBrlU
personally i like this bottom just plain one most !
thx cass :-*
will add it in a few days~
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http://imgur.com/a/sBrlU
personally i like this bottom just plain one most !
thx cass :-*
will add it in a few days~
Welcome aboard Savi :-*
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101 Delegates group need more new vigour! ;)
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101 Delegates group need more new vigour! ;)
Exactly. I'm looking forward to your web-based wallet. Please be ready for block producing
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101 Delegates group need more new vigour! ;)
Exactly. I'm looking forward to your web-based wallet. Please be ready for block producing
Thank you! Our developers are busy with developing web wallet . :D
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http://imgur.com/a/sBrlU
personally i like this bottom just plain one most !
thx cass :-*
will add it in a few days~
Welcome aboard Savi :-*
hello captain ;D
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101 Delegates group need more new vigour! ;)
Exactly. I'm looking forward to your web-based wallet. Please be ready for block producing
Thank you! Our developers are busy with developing web wallet . :D
We will update in this thread once some progress has been made. Stay tuned! ;)
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Your first delegate is live, congratulations! :)
Looking forward to seeing your wallet!
PS. Some feeds would be great
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Your first delegate is live, congratulations! :)
Looking forward to seeing your wallet!
PS. Some feeds would be great
Noted. Feeds will be available in a day or two, our developer is working on it~
Thank you!
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【Update】
BTS trading is available on mobile devices now!
Download here: http://btckan.com/main/app
(Only iOS supported, Android coming soon)
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I just noticed in yunbi site the flag in the change language looks like Malaysian flag than US.
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Will you do a CNY <-> BitCNY gateway? That is the one thing that would add tremendous value!
Many BTS fans have suggest gateway. We will take it seriously. :D
How is the gateway going? Where are the major obstacles: legal or coding?
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Will you do a CNY <-> BitCNY gateway? That is the one thing that would add tremendous value!
Many BTS fans have suggest gateway. We will take it seriously. :D
How is the gateway going? Where are the major obstacles: legal or coding?
Hello, there is an Bitcny gateway in China now :http://www.tradebts.com/?P=Signin (http://www.tradebts.com/?P=Signin). In fact , it can satisfy the need of BTSers in China. So at least now, building a gateway is not the hightest priority, we have other things to do. Hope you can understand us! :)
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yes, china gateway is not the emergent thing. I think a usd gateway is important as we have not even one.
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yes, china gateway is not the emergent thing. I think a usd gateway is important as we have not even one.
This is very true but because the regulatory hurdles we face, it makes it much more costly and time consuming.
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Will you do a CNY <-> BitCNY gateway? That is the one thing that would add tremendous value!
Many BTS fans have suggest gateway. We will take it seriously. :D
How is the gateway going? Where are the major obstacles: legal or coding?
Hello, there is an Bitcny gateway in China now :http://www.tradebts.com/?P=Signin (http://www.tradebts.com/?P=Signin). In fact , it can satisfy the need of BTSers in China. So at least now, building a gateway is not the hightest priority, we have other things to do. Hope you can understand us! :)
Great Work!!!!
just small thing on sign in site! why not link tradebts.gulu to bts:
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tradebts is a bitcny bridge, not a gateway. A gateway is an entity that issues IOU's on the blockchain, like first pioneered by ripple. Someone who does instant trade of bitCNY or bitUSD from fiat or btc is called a bridge.
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tradebts is a bitcny bridge, not a gateway. A gateway is an entity that issues IOU's on the blockchain, like first pioneered by ripple. Someone who does instant trade of bitCNY or bitUSD from fiat or btc is called a bridge.
So what a gateway will help?
A bridge is enough for people to get in, and transfer money and withdraw at another side of the world via another bridge.
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tradebts is a bitcny bridge, not a gateway. A gateway is an entity that issues IOU's on the blockchain, like first pioneered by ripple. Someone who does instant trade of bitCNY or bitUSD from fiat or btc is called a bridge.
Yes, bridge is a more accurate term.
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Since you updated your API to migrate from BTSX >> BTS, coinmarketcap.com has been broken:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-x/#markets (http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-x/#markets)
I would suggest making the migration backward-compatible to grandfather in laggards.
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Since you updated your API to migrate from BTSX >> BTS, coinmarketcap.com has been broken:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-x/#markets (http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-x/#markets)
I would suggest making the migration backward-compatible to grandfather in laggards.
Thank you so much! We have notified coinmarketcap already, we think they will update API.
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Does Yunbi allow trading by Americans using bitcoin to purchase bitshares?
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Does Yunbi allow trading by Americans using bitcoin to purchase bitshares?
Yes, of course. Yunbi exchagne supports BTS/BTC: https://yunbi.com/markets/btsbtc (https://yunbi.com/markets/btsbtc) It also support BITUSD/BTC:https://yunbi.com/markets/bitusdbtc (https://yunbi.com/markets/bitusdbtc) and BITBTC/BTC:https://yunbi.com/markets/bitbtcbtc (https://yunbi.com/markets/bitbtcbtc)
Welcome to Yunbi exchange. :)
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FYI
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14476.msg188200#msg188200
MAybe you should add a statement on yunbi about this ... guess more people will ask this is near future!
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The btc/bts market isn't very liquid. Would it be best to deposit btc and then exchange for cny? Then buy bts in the much more liquid bts/cny market? Will this work for an American investor?
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The btc/bts market isn't very liquid. Would it be best to deposit btc and then exchange for cny? Then buy bts in the much more liquid bts/cny market? Will this work for an American investor?
:P no one is stopping you for trying ....
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Yunbi should add some trade fee because right now there is a majority of trades on their platform that are being executed by the same person on each side. So it says on coinmarket cap they have more trade volume than btc38 in the last 24 hours but that isn't really true.
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any ETA on the yunbi web wallet?
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any ETA on the yunbi web wallet?
Last time I heard from they is that they had some unexpected technical problem. So probably no ETA unless they solve that.
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FYI
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14476.msg188200#msg188200
MAybe you should add a statement on yunbi about this ... guess more people will ask this is near future!
Thank you, Cass! Yunbi exchange has solved this problem. Try again!
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The btc/bts market isn't very liquid. Would it be best to deposit btc and then exchange for cny? Then buy bts in the much more liquid bts/cny market? Will this work for an American investor?
You can try. Yunbi exchange will have more international BTS users, and this will improve btc/bts liquidity. :)
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Yunbi should add some trade fee because right now there is a majority of trades on their platform that are being executed by the same person on each side. So it says on coinmarket cap they have more trade volume than btc38 in the last 24 hours but that isn't really true.
Hi, free transaction is good for users ,not bad for users. Please think it again. Thank you! :)
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FYI
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14476.msg188200#msg188200
MAybe you should add a statement on yunbi about this ... guess more people will ask this is near future!
Thank you, Cass! Yunbi exchange has solved this problem. Try again!
+5% thank you
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Yunbi. Do you want to become a gateway for bitshares? And issue btc and fiat-cny IOU's on bitshares blockchain? I hope this is in the horizon.
About the no tx fees, one other point is that stakeholders are diluting 130k bitshares per month for Yunbi. while Yunbi exchange collects no order tx fees. this does not give a good impression. the dilution is not meant to subsidize exchange fees for yunbi to attract users and have misleading volume statistics.
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Yunbi. Do you want to become a gateway for bitshares? And issue btc and fiat-cny IOU's on bitshares blockchain? I hope this is in the horizon.
About the no tx fees, one other point is that stakeholders are diluting 130k bitshares per month for Yunbi. while Yunbi exchange collects no order tx fees. this does not give a good impression. the dilution is not meant to subsidize exchange fees for yunbi to attract users and have misleading volume statistics.
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tx fee is necessary
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I'm having trouble understanding the logic here.
About the no tx fees, one other point is that stakeholders are diluting 130k bitshares per month for Yunbi. while Yunbi exchange collects no order tx fees. this does not give a good impression. the dilution is not meant to subsidize exchange fees for yunbi to attract users and have misleading volume statistics.
So, you would rather Yunbi take more of your money, because the money they are already taking from you isn't for trading on their site? That doesn't make any sense. Why can't we be glad they are offering free trades? If they had delegate pay AND were making more money on the side, this would be satisfactory behavior, but the fact that they dropped the fee should be seen as a bonus.
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tx fee is necessary
Imagine you rent out an apartment with heat, hot water, and electricity included in the monthly rent. You then complain that it is necessary that you pay for these things in addition to your rent, as the rent should not include them.
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Yunbi's no fee policy has nothing to do with delegate income . They're been no fee for a long time . There are investors behind it that's supporting this policy , like Li Xiaolai .
That's open information on Yunbi.com .
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I'm having trouble understanding the logic here.
About the no tx fees, one other point is that stakeholders are diluting 130k bitshares per month for Yunbi. while Yunbi exchange collects no order tx fees. this does not give a good impression. the dilution is not meant to subsidize exchange fees for yunbi to attract users and have misleading volume statistics.
So, you would rather Yunbi take more of your money, because the money they are already taking from you isn't for trading on their site? That doesn't make any sense. Why can't we be glad they are offering free trades? If they had delegate pay AND were making more money on the side, this would be satisfactory behavior, but the fact that they dropped the fee should be seen as a bonus.
I think he is suggesting that someone or some parties are exploiting the 'no-fee' structure to manipulate trades. This is because there is no cost to the manipulator(s).
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Yun have two 100% delegate for development of web wallet of BTS. and now Yunbi announced they gave up development of web wallet of BTS, because of the official web wallet have been released ;
由于云币网以高票获得了两个100%受托人席位,云币网在BTS社区众所瞩目。
许多社区成员希望了解云币网最近的工作进度情况,以下为我们对工作进度的正式答复:
云币网作为一个交易所,除了之前已经上线的BTS、BitCNY的交易对,在最近又增加了BitUSD、BitBTC与BTC的交易对,而且这一切交易依然是免除所有的交易费用的。
更重要的是,云币网在拥有中国最大数字货币用户量的手机APP “币看”上实现了BTS的交易功能,极大的提升了中国用户的交易体验,为BTS的推广做出了重要的贡献。
但之前曾经披露的云钱包开发的计划,由于实际状况的变化,将会暂时停止,原因如下:
1、经过更深入的研究发现钱包的设计和我们预想的目标之间有一定的矛盾,实现成本超出了预期,导致钱包的安全性和成本产生矛盾,暂时没有找到合适的解决方案;
2、官方版网页钱包的测试版已经上线,使得开发云钱包的重要性降低。
说明:我们对官方版网页钱包进行了测试,这将是一个包含了完整功能的脑钱包,与原云钱包的开发方案相比,该钱包基本实现了云钱包希望实现的功能,而且该钱包是由官方开发的,从机理而言,该钱包更值得信赖,而云钱包作为一个中心化的钱包,在官方网页钱包推出后,将承担不必要的有关安全及信任方面的质疑,这导致我们对云钱包的用户数不再乐观,经过团队谨慎投票,我们决定将该开发项目无限期延长,直到我们认为有开发的必要时再启动开发。
云币网作为BTS社区的友好伙伴,将会继续支持BTS的成长,并会在后期根据BTS的发展状况不断优化提供支持的方式,同时也会继续进行基于BTS的云生态的推广和建设。
我们非常尊重社区的意见,由于我们已经确定暂时停止开发云钱包,如果社区成员认为此调整不足以支持云币网拥有两个100%受托人,可以行使自己的投票权,将d2.yunbi这个受托人席位投下去,如果在一个月内该席位被投下去,我们会将该受托人之前获取的所有BTS以水龙头的方式返还给BTS用户。
希望BTS和BTS社区在新的一年都得到长足的发展。
云币网
2015年3月4日
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Yunbi representative:
Please post here immediately to let us know what the funds from your delegate position are being used for (or to show us that you have burned them since you are no longer needing them for wallet development).
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Yunbi, maybe you could re-direct your energy into creating better UI for the wallet? We sorely need more energy in this department.
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Yunbi exchange gets two 100% delegates(d1.yunbi , d2.yunbi),attracting the attention of the whole community.
Many community members hope to know our recent progress , so the following is the formal reply:
In addition to supporting BTS/CNY and BitCNY/CNY trading pair , Yunbi exchange recently added BitUSD/BTC, BitBTC/BTC trading pair. All transactions are free.
Above all, Yunbi exchange user can trade BTS on “www.btckan.com”(币看) mobile APP, getting better trading experience. BTW , btckan is the most popular cryptocurrency mobile APP in China.
Because of unexpected problem, we will suspend the development of Yunbi web wallet. Main reasons are as follows:
1. After deep research , we found that we can’t realize our original goal --100% security and easy-to-use --within expected cost. And we haven’t find proper solution until now.
2. Official web wallet is available now, so we had better not reinvent the wheel.
We have tested official web wallet, finding that it has realized our goal. In addition it is developed by official team ,so it will get more trust than other wallet developed by the third party. Yunbi web wallet will be centralized wallet, so we will suffer doubt about security and trust and have little users. For above reason, our team decided to suspend developing web wallet.
If you think that Yunbi exchange don’t deserve two 100% delegates now , you can revote for d2.yunbi. We respect your vote, and if d2.yunbi is voted down in one month, we will donate all reward of d2.yunbi to free BTS faucet. We are not greedy guy, we only receive the reward that we deserve.
As the partner of BTS community , Yunbi exchange will continue to support BTS and provide better trade experience for BTS fans.
Best wishes to BTS!
Yunbi Exchange
2015/3/5
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Nice move on d2.yunbi ..
But I disagree about reinventing the wheel .. having a CHOICE is what makes this world colorful ..
But you can implememt a compromise ... while the official wallet targets average users you could use the javascript library and implement a smoother interface for power traders .. you should contact @cass .. I know for a fact that he can help you with an awesome trading interface .. you guys just need to put the UI and the javascript together ...
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We respect your vote, and if d2.yunbi is voted down in one month, we will donate all reward of d2.yunbi to free BTS faucet. We are not greedy guy, we only receive the reward that we deserve.
Does "donate ... to free BTS faucet" mean donating to faucet.bitshares.org, or the thing described in OP?
★ Offering free BTS faucet.
Once you sign up on Yunbi exchange , your Yunbi account will receive 1 BTS for your BTS account registration.
By now, d2.yunbi produced 3,621 blocks which means 181050 BTS: http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/info?name=d2.yunbi
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What exactly is the d1 delegate for?
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But I disagree about reinventing the wheel .. having a CHOICE is what makes this world colorful ..
But you can implememt a compromise ... while the official wallet targets average users you could use the javascript library and implement a smoother interface for power traders .. you should contact @cass .. I know for a fact that he can help you with an awesome trading interface .. you guys just need to put the UI and the javascript together ...
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Yunbi exchange gets two 100% delegates(d1.yunbi , d2.yunbi),attracting the attention of the whole community.
Many community members hope to know our recent progress , so the following is the formal reply:
In addition to supporting BTS/CNY and BitCNY/CNY trading pair , Yunbi exchange recently added BitUSD/BTC, BitBTC/BTC trading pair. All transactions are free.
Above all, Yunbi exchange user can trade BTS on “www.btckan.com”(币看) mobile APP, getting better trading experience. BTW , btckan is the most popular cryptocurrency mobile APP in China.
Because of unexpected problem, we will suspend the development of Yunbi web wallet. Main reasons are as follows:
1. After deep research , we found that we can’t realize our original goal --100% security and easy-to-use --within expected cost. And we haven’t find proper solution until now.
2. Official web wallet is available now, so we had better not reinvent the wheel.
We have tested official web wallet, finding that it has realized our goal. In addition it is developed by official team ,so it will get more trust than other wallet developed by the third party. Yunbi web wallet will be centralized wallet, so we will suffer doubt about security and trust and have little users. For above reason, our team decided to suspend developing web wallet.
If you think that Yunbi exchange don’t deserve two 100% delegates now , you can revote for d2.yunbi. We respect your vote, and if d2.yunbi is voted down in one month, we will donate all reward of d2.yunbi to free BTS faucet. We are not greedy guy, we only receive the reward that we deserve.
As the partner of BTS community , Yunbi exchange will continue to support BTS and provide better trade experience for BTS fans.
Best wishes to BTS!
Yunbi Exchange
2015/3/5
Would you publish the results of the research you made that lead to the conclusion not to develope the web wallet like you planed to. This was work paid by BTS shareholders and the results may help other developers.
Could you please summarize what you are offering (what you do and what you plan to do) for the delegate(s) you have?
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What exactly is the d1 delegate for?
At this point it seems that Yunbi is not directly doing anything for BitShares to warrant any delegate. IMO both the delegates should be voted out.
You guys have already earned quite some amount through the two delegates, please provide a small summary of any work done till now. Adding pairs shouldn't be counted, as their are other pairs on the exchange too and I doubt they are also paying the exchange for the privilege.
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What exactly is the d1 delegate for?
At this point it seems that Yunbi is not directly doing anything for BitShares to warrant any delegate. IMO both the delegates should be voted out.
You guys have already earned quite some amount through the two delegates, please provide a small summary of any work done till now. Adding pairs shouldn't be counted, as their are other pairs on the exchange too and I doubt they are also paying the exchange for the privilege.
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:-X why