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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: kenCode on May 12, 2015, 02:01:24 pm
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HERE'S MY ALEX JONES RANT FOR THE DAY...
Guys, this has become VERY disappointing for me, VERY quickly. >:(
When I search for the following strings, BitShares doesn't even appear in search results!
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=decentralized%20crypto%20exchange
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=decentralized+exchange
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=decentralized+trading+floor
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=non-volatile+crypto+currency
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=non-volatile+cryptocurrencies
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=anonymous+crypto+trading
..shall I go on?
If you do get lucky enough to find the BitShares related websites, they should look a lot more exciting like this:
http://www.falloutcomplex.com
https://ripple.com
Not boring like this (sorry to whoever designed this):
http://bitshares.org
Tell me WHY anyone needs to signup for BitShares RIGHT NOW?
Get me excited!
Where's the pitch and close?
We're even LOSING sites:
eBook: http://bitshares101.net
BitShares gear: http://www.cryptofresh.com
I can help with SEO and SEP too, but we've GOT to get our sites beautified, bumped up on alexa, put on a nice shirt, change your gravatar to something more professional, and I need help finishing all the translation jobs I've got posted. I'm stretched WAY too thin now, this is ridiculous!
It's damn hard for me to bring us the money when we look like a bunch of god damn teenagers. You want investment? Look the part! Let's get off our asses RIGHT NOW, move around, motion creates emotion! A.B.C.
I'm quickly losing my motivation here people, quit bitchin and start thinking of what you're going to do TODAY to bring us the next whale!
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Alex Jones is very entertaining:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs
Lol but seriously, if we actually have some well known exchanges issue their assets on our blockchain (June?) then it wont matter if we havent put much effort into SEO.
Yeah media coverage can help but its not going to be critical to BitShares' success when we have a finished product.
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HERE'S MY ALEX JONES RANT FOR THE DAY...
Guys, this has become VERY disappointing for me, VERY quickly. >:(
When I search for the following strings, BitShares doesn't even appear in search results!
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=decentralized%20crypto%20exchange
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=decentralized+exchange
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=decentralized+trading+floor
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=non-volatile+crypto+currency
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=non-volatile+cryptocurrencies
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=anonymous+crypto+trading
..shall I go on?
If you do get lucky enough to find the BitShares related websites, they should look a lot more exciting like this:
http://www.falloutcomplex.com
https://ripple.com
Not boring like this (sorry to whoever designed this):
http://bitshares.org
Tell me WHY anyone needs to signup for BitShares RIGHT NOW?
Get me excited!
Where's the pitch and close?
We're even LOSING sites:
eBook: http://bitshares101.net
BitShares gear: http://www.cryptofresh.com
I can help with SEO and SEP too, but we've GOT to get our sites beautified, bumped up on alexa, put on a nice shirt, change your gravatar to something more professional, and I need help finishing all the translation jobs I've got posted. I'm stretched WAY too thin now, this is ridiculous!
It's damn hard for me to bring us the money when we look like a bunch of god damn teenagers. You want investment? Look the part! Let's get off our asses RIGHT NOW, move around, motion creates emotion! A.B.C.
I'm quickly losing my motivation here people, quit bitchin and start thinking of what you're going to do TODAY to bring us the next whale!
Wow my site is compared to ripple.. cool. They had WAY more money than me to do theirs! :)
I know the space isn't SEO optimized.. it really requires content and press releases to do that. Dan started a blog.. but without more people linking to it, it's not going to make an impact in google.
You also have to note that the crypto terms and space are largely dominated by bitcoin primarily because it gets ALL the media attention, which in turn affects the search results. Occasionally you see an alt coin make it's way into the media for a quick pump and dump, but otherwise thats about it.
As utility grows so will our SEO positioning I think. More sites 'powered by bitshares' coming out.
If you are looking to do something in this space.. I would carefully select a particular term to target and just start revolving all the content you put out around that. One good press release that makes it's way into reuters and bloomberg can change the entire search landscape overnight.
Keep in mind the only people in bitshares represent the 2.5% marketshare of innovators and maybe a small portion of the 13.5% of early adopters that make up the general populace. The rest won't even look at this yet.. it's not ready for them. So you want to target spaces where innovators and early adopters hangout.
My two BTS anyways. :)
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What are the search volumes on these keywords?
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What are the search volumes on these keywords?
"cryptocurrency exchange" has about 1,890 / month
"decentralized exchange" has around 100 ??
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Try searching again, use the incognito chrome browser which removes your personalized search factors. You will see that in your first example, Bytemaster's blog on the bitshares.org page appears as the 17th search result. Your second example, bitshares.org is the fifth search result on the page. My site Bitsharesblog.com appears in the thirties of the search result for both of those search phrases.
As for the word decentralized, nobody uses that to search for anything and we make way to big a deal about that word, it is meaningless to almost everyone that is not in our little niche.
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It takes MONTHS to get your alexa up.
We have so much to offer that doesn't require any media too, subjects like decentralized dns, or:
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+form+a+DAC
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=why+should+I+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+without+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+with+less+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+avoid+the+bail-ins
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+protect+my+wealth+from+bank+runs
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+financially+survive+without+a+bank
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=list+the+best+paying+savings+accounts
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+send+money+to+ukraine
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=are+my+crypto+coins+safe
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+do+I+save+for+my+kids+education
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
We have 101 Delegates too! 101!!
I ran some reports on github. You've got like 10 really active Delegates coding in there. Yes, 10.
Another 30 Delegates appear to be off and on coding.
Fuzzy is his own beast, everyone knows he works his ass off.
That leaves roughly 60 people getting paid to do what for us? Run a node?
When their node is running, what else are they doing to entice a WHALE?
We need ALL HANDS ON DECK.
I REFUSE to show any wall street brokers, bankers or wealth protection firms BitShares right now. (you know, WHALES). Why?
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
When you build a successful company, you hit the ground running and you grit your teeth and you fire your big guns every single day! You grab every body you can, you put their asses to work and you show them the returns of their hard work.
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Adam was hired in part specifically because of SEO skills iirc
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You can easily place a background video on a webpage. You can even choose videos from youtube if im not mistaken. That should be pretty easy and bam! You have a site just like ripple. I admit it would look better yes, but it's not like it takes a huge tool to do it.
Functions need to be better delegated, maybe, 3-5 guy team to handle the web sites, make them pretty and updated with info. This includes the wiki page, infographics, videos, etc
Another team to write articles, do interviews, marketing stuff, etc
then delagate Y and X with side projects like minebitshares, bunkershares, limewallet, etc
and the rest developing the client.
That way we don't have the same people doing multiple stuff at the same time, loosing time and resources. Meaning we should optimize development. I don't know if that's what happens but I'm under the idea it does. People loose too much time with stuff that don't matter or stuff that someone else could be doing and ends up consuming his time. I trust the devs, I'm just under the idea that things are not that organized.
For this, we should have like Ken suggested, a table of all 101 delegates, links to their proposals and updates and what each one of them is up to.
I too don't know what 101 delegates are doing. They should all be producing and slowly delivering but it seems only a handful of them are doing so. I can count ~51 delegates with a 3% pay rate. It might just be me and maybe im not considering all options, but it I guess I would prefer more delegates with a higher pay rate developing, than 51 delegates doing nothing. I mean, obviously they are doing something (or at least, they should), but a 3% delegate just cannot keep up with the other 100% delegates. How can a 3% delegate work the same amount of hours and deliver the same? He just can't. There are multiple delegates belonging to teh same entity, I recognize, no problem. But still, there is such a high amount of 3% delegates that I just don't even hear about. That's the problem. I don't even know what they're up to. Signing blocks?
The problem here is that for the amount of 3% delegates we have, we should hear more about them. I dont care if they are 3 or 1%, as long as they contribute to something, but unfortunately it's always the same people delivering, which are way less than 51. And I hear about them constantly. What about the other 51? Shouldn't they be more active? Provide more feedback and updates? They might be taking the spot away from a 100% delegate or whatever, that could deliver way more.
If I'm wrong or missing something, feel free to correct me please.
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It takes MONTHS to get your alexa up.
We have so much to offer that doesn't require any media too, subjects like decentralized dns, or:
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+form+a+DAC
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=why+should+I+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+without+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+with+less+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+avoid+the+bail-ins
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+protect+my+wealth+from+bank+runs
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+financially+survive+without+a+bank
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=list+the+best+paying+savings+accounts
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+send+money+to+ukraine
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=are+my+crypto+coins+safe
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+do+I+save+for+my+kids+education
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
We have 101 Delegates too! 101!!
I ran some reports on github. You've got like 10 really active Delegates coding in there. Yes, 10.
Another 30 Delegates appear to be off and on coding.
Fuzzy is his own beast, everyone knows he works his ass off.
That leaves roughly 60 people getting paid to do what for us? Run a node?
When their node is running, what else are they doing to entice a WHALE?
We need ALL HANDS ON DECK.
I REFUSE to show any wall street brokers, bankers or wealth protection firms BitShares right now. (you know, WHALES). Why?
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
When you build a successful company, you hit the ground running and you grit your teeth and you fire your big guns every single day! You grab every body you can, you put their asses to work and you show them the returns of their hard work.
Unfortunately, the grassroots volunteer initiatives by almost everyone dried up when the marketing delegate thing happened and when the bulk marketing discussion was moved off of bitsharestalk for so called privacy reasons.
People will naturally not work for free while other 'marketers' are being paid by the blockchain for their efforts. This dichotomy has taken a toll on marketing numbers, we now expect a selected few marketing delegates to shoulder the load which has not worked out very well. We have little to no daily presence on bitcointalk or reddit, we have only a handful of related websites, no social media presence outside of the bitshares operated ones and the number of new account sign-ups per day has been going down since the beginning http://bitsharesblocks.com/charts/accounts. The one thing that partially motivated me as a 'volunteer' who has spent about $100 and over 100 hours developing two bitshares related domains was the referral system, which unfortunately appears abandoned except as a means to see how few sign-ups our 'marketers' actually get https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard.
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For this, we should have like Ken suggested, a table of all 101 delegates, links to their proposals and updates and what each one of them is up to.
You're right on the money Akado.
I got started on the Roster this morning too (like I've got nothing better to do).
An accountability roster: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
I'll add more names to it in the coming days.
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For this, we should have like Ken suggested, a table of all 101 delegates, links to their proposals and updates and what each one of them is up to.
You're right on the money Akado.
I got started on the Roster this morning too (like I've got nothing better to do).
An accountability roster: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
I'll add more names to it in the coming days.
You're sorting it out by pay rate? Ok. I'll check it out and add what I can this weekend.
Also a BitShares Annoucement on Bitcointalk could be nice. Though I think we should wait for the new documentation and infographics to be released. But we shouldn't forget about this. Also probably a to-do list? Like stuff people find and add that could be done later and also stuff we're waiting for. I.e, have the new documentation ready and contact the nasdaq guys since they're checking out blockchain tech; infographics; shorts bug in the client, etc
edit: cant edit the document apparently
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Functions need to be better delegated, maybe, 3-5 guy team to handle the web sites, make them pretty and updated with info. This includes the wiki page, infographics, videos, etc
Another team to write articles, do interviews, marketing stuff, etc
then delagate Y and X with side projects like minebitshares, bunkershares, limewallet, etc
and the rest developing the client.
That way we don't have the same people doing multiple stuff at the same time, loosing time and resources. Meaning we should optimize development. I don't know if that's what happens but I'm under the idea it does. People loose too much time with stuff that don't matter or stuff that someone else could be doing and ends up consuming his time. I trust the devs, I'm just under the idea that things are not that organized.
For this, we should have like Ken suggested, a table of all 101 delegates, links to their proposals and updates and what each one of them is up to.
I think this should tie in to the Paid Workers Proposal.
In another thread I suggest a way that Delegate tasks be easily monitored and other aspects of development could be opened up to the free market.
I am aware that BitShares is still in the startup stage itself and that the delegate system may be sufficient to perform these tasks if the market cap increases but I'm not sure access to information is easy enough and at the very least I think the delegate system should have an 'about me', 'here's what I'm doing' and for unelected delegates an official client based platform for pitching themselves to the shareholders.
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TL;DR:
Shareholders can't be relied upon to donate to development funds but they need control over how much development funding the blockchain provides and who receives it.
Separation of community/company maintenance (Delegates) and core development.
Delegates compete to act as maintainers of the blockchain and as the human element to DAC decision making.
Core development could be funded by contracts between the shareholders and developers.
Devs propose development and a pay schedule. Shareholders pay into proposal-specific funds as they see fit and development starts once a given pledge-threshold is met.
These proposals are contracts to complete a given task within a stated timeframe for a price acceptable to the shareholders.
Here is a hypothetical scenario I hope will illustrate how this could work.
I unlock my bitshares wallet and see that I have 500 cds (core-dev-shares) and navigate to the 'Development Proposals' tab. 1 cds = 1 bts but can only be spent per the terms of a core development contract. These core-dev-shares are perhaps the dilutionary funds that used to go to just Delegates.
I see that Invictus Innovations has a proposal for bitAssets 2.0. The team claim it will take 2 months and are asking for 200k bts and $2k bitUSD upfront with a 5M bts completion-'bounty'. Of this 5M bts, 2.5M will be held in escrow for 1 year and 2.5M will be converted to bitUSD on a weekly basis from the start of development until depleted. The team promises to provide proof of progress to
the community and expects Delegates to scrutinise the details.
Underneath this proposal I see that two delegates I trust have evaluated the proposal and interviewed Invictus Innovations and conclude that they think it is a proposal worthy of investment. One delegate has provided an .mp3 file to his 'town hall' interview and another has convinced me that the economic reasoning holds up. The proposal also has a 90% Delegate recommendation rating.
I am now a reassured and confident shareholder so pledge 60% of my 500 cds to this proposal.
I see Moonstone is nearly funded so I send another 20% there.
But I also notice that ByteMaster has another great proposal but doesn't have the time to implement it right now. It's a minor feature not worth the time yet. He has requested an exorbitant fee to prioritise this work over his spare time but I'm sure he expects someone else to pitch for a much lower cost.
I see underneath that 'script.kiddie' has already offered to whip up the code for just $500 bitUSD with a 5k bts royalty fee to be paid to bytemaster. I pledge some more of my 500 cds and see it is instantly converted to bitUSD at market price.
A month later I come back to my wallet to check my cds balance. Script.kiddie has the new feature running smoothly but I see that another project he proposed didn't get funded within the time-window and the 50 cds that I pledged has been refunded to me to allocate to other projects.
I think that trying to merge the two distinct 'departments' of core development and efficient company maintenance stifles innovation and diversity in both departments.
Delegates should get paid for being delegates and core development teams should pitch and get paid solely for contracted tasks completed.
In order to ensure max decentralization of our DAC the shareholders need to actively participate in all aspects of the DAC.
As we are all humans with short attention spans these decisions need to be spoon-fed to us. The easier it is to participate, the more shareholders we get to take part.
If anything is complicated or hard to evaluate, participation will drop off sharply.
Groups of humans are known for witch hunts so we should make sure that when these happen they do not spill over into unrelated areas of the DAC.
For example; if a mob gets stirred up to oust a delegate providing a slow price feed then we need to be certain that there won't be any collateral damage. So delegates cannot also be responsible for funding core development.
Taulant and Moonstone have stated that they aim to demonstrate their worth by taking on risk and offering the shareholders the opportunity to invest by buying their product (their code) and having them open-source it. Could core devs take a similar approach?
Data and necessary info needs to be compiled by the DAC for presentation to the shareholders so they can make informed decisions.
Delegates need to be easily evaluated with a quick look at a list of statistics. Delegate pay should pay for the efficient running of delegate tasks only.
Core development needs to be pitched to the shareholders in a modular fashion and opened up to the free market – I propose by way of a crowd sale system.
Dev teams need to show their goals and code needs to be written in a way that allows numerous parties to add to the codebase over time. A clear list of tasks to be completed allows separate dev teams to pitch separate projects. The shareholders can then fund development as quickly or as gradually as they wish. Projects won't overlap so less time is wasted, and potential dev teams know that they will get paid for the work they do.
Startups who want to set up businesses directly on the BitShares blockchain could also share this coredev proposal system to get funding. Bts shareholders could be encouraged to direct their core-dev-shares to their proposal by getting voting rights in the business and a share of future profits proportional to their stake or perhaps even as loan repayments.
The proposals that get funded would reflect the views of the shareholders. The proportion of core development vs. start-up 'VC funding' style proposals that get funded will most likely change over time as the ecosystem develops.
Shareholders who are delegates could also pitch for core development tasks if they are so inclined but shareholders need to be able to quickly see who is doing the job for which they are specifically being paid for.
For delegates this should mean that shareholders can view a list of hard stats that accurately tell them who is performing well and who isn't.
These stats include:
Uptime
Block propagation
Average time per price feed (possibly broken down per asset – this could be displayed next to a measure of volatility of the specified asset for a fair assessment.)
Other clear cut and useful stats.
A percentage of how many successfully funded core-dev proposals the delegate reviewed and advised on.
Delegates should also be responsible for being oracles on contracts between the shareholders/DAC and core development teams. They are the human element of the DAC so should evaluate the viability of core development proposals and also check-in on project progress. Delegates would have no authority to stop shareholders funding unrealistic proposals but should use their reputation to serve the shareholders in an advisory capacity.
Instead of funding core dev with dilution, those block rewards could be sent proportionally to each account by their holdings. The funds could be held in some kind of multisig account that allows them to only be spent by contributing to core dev project proposal crowd sales.
Proposals for core development could be published in a separate section of the core wallet in a way that acts to 'crowd sale' the proposed project.
It costs a nominal fee to publish these ideas to avoid bloat and make it easier for shareholders to assess less options. These proposals are contracts to complete a given task within a stated timeframe for a price acceptable to the shareholders.
Core Dev Proposals contain:
A summary of the problems aiming to be solved, what the finished product will look like/do and why/how it will work
a timeline
A fee structure. Perhaps an upfront fee and a recurring payment schedule or an on-completion bounty.
Proposals can also be published with the expectation that someone other than the author will bid to actually compete the task. Devs who wish the implement someone else's idea can include a royalty payment in their proposal. 'Fund us and we'll pay 10kbts to the author as a royalty.'
This 'royalty' is voluntary but encourages 'ideas people' to promote their ideas to establish themselves in the community to increase the likelihood they'll get a royalty and as a consequence more people hear about the best proposals.
The author of a proposal may also be a large stakeholder with lots of funds to pledge to a developer team to implement their idea, so devs may want to attract this 'VC money' and so offer a symbolic/generous royalty.
The party can then pitch themselves to the shareholders on why they should get this contract. For example:
'We propose to implement BM's proposal for bitAssets 2.0. Upfront we require: 10kbts, £2kbitUSD, 5M bts to be held in escrow until completion except each month 0.5 bitGold is paid out from the fund.'
These proposals accomplish:
Separation of DAC maintenance and DAC development
Open-sourcing of ideas for core development. If a proposal contains a good idea but asks for too much funding, other parties are able to promise the same project for an alternative payment schedule.
A direct relationship between the shareholders and core development incorporated into the DAC itself.
An opportunity for projects willing to build businesses around bts to get access to donations or loans.
The ability for development and businesses working around BitShares to increase as fast as shareholders are willing to pay.
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I got started on the Roster this morning too (like I've got nothing better to do).
An accountability roster: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
I'll add more names to it in the coming days.
It will be great if you manage to complete this roster list. It's absolutely essential to have it publicly available (maybe on the bitsharesblocks website?).
You have my vote, ken.
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For this, we should have like Ken suggested, a table of all 101 delegates, links to their proposals and updates and what each one of them is up to.
I got started on the Roster this morning too (like I've got nothing better to do).
An accountability roster: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
I'll add more names to it in the coming days.
Also a BitShares Annoucement on Bitcointalk could be nice. Though I think we should wait for the new documentation and infographics to be released. But we shouldn't forget about this. Also probably a to-do list? Like stuff people find and add that could be done later and also stuff we're waiting for. I.e, have the new documentation ready and contact the nasdaq guys since they're checking out blockchain tech; infographics; shorts bug in the client, etc
edit: cant edit the document apparently
Ok, I changed the perms from comment to edit. You never know who you can trust to, so I hope we keep this professional. This document can serve all of us if it's done right. Sort it however you like.
I'd put the hardest workers at the top though.
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It will be great if you manage to complete this roster list. It's absolutely essential to have it publicly available (maybe on the bitsharesblocks website?).
You have my vote, ken.
Thank you jakub :)
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It takes MONTHS to get your alexa up.
We have so much to offer that doesn't require any media too, subjects like decentralized dns, or:
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+form+a+DAC
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=why+should+I+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+without+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+with+less+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+avoid+the+bail-ins
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+protect+my+wealth+from+bank+runs
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+financially+survive+without+a+bank
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=list+the+best+paying+savings+accounts
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+send+money+to+ukraine
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=are+my+crypto+coins+safe
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+do+I+save+for+my+kids+education
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
We have 101 Delegates too! 101!!
I ran some reports on github. You've got like 10 really active Delegates coding in there. Yes, 10.
Another 30 Delegates appear to be off and on coding.
Fuzzy is his own beast, everyone knows he works his ass off.
That leaves roughly 60 people getting paid to do what for us? Run a node?
When their node is running, what else are they doing to entice a WHALE?
We need ALL HANDS ON DECK.
I REFUSE to show any wall street brokers, bankers or wealth protection firms BitShares right now. (you know, WHALES). Why?
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
When you build a successful company, you hit the ground running and you grit your teeth and you fire your big guns every single day! You grab every body you can, you put their asses to work and you show them the returns of their hard work.
Unfortunately, the grassroots volunteer initiatives by almost everyone dried up when the marketing delegate thing happened and when the bulk marketing discussion was moved off of bitsharestalk for so called privacy reasons.
People will naturally not work for free while other 'marketers' are being paid by the blockchain for their efforts. This dichotomy has taken a toll on marketing numbers, we now expect a selected few marketing delegates to shoulder the load which has not worked out very well. We have little to no daily presence on bitcointalk or reddit, we have only a handful of related websites, no social media presence outside of the bitshares operated ones and the number of new account sign-ups per day has been going down since the beginning http://bitsharesblocks.com/charts/accounts. The one thing that partially motivated me as a 'volunteer' who has spent about $100 and over 100 hours developing two bitshares related domains was the referral system, which unfortunately appears abandoned except as a means to see how few sign-ups our 'marketers' actually get https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard.
Another one of the 17+ recurring issues that are about to become moot.
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Another one of the 17+ recurring issues that are about to become moot.
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Why is that Stan?
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Another one of the 17+ recurring issues that are about to become moot.
:)
Why is that Stan?
A little of the not-yet-disclosed secret sauce still simmering on the cooktop and voilà!
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open an incognito window,
https://www.google.com/search?q=decentralized+crypto+exchange&oq=decentralized+crypto+exchange&aqs=chrome..69i57.450j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=%22decentralized+crypto+exchange%22
this is how you measure keywords. this one is worthless
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I think 3% delegates are making about $15 per month right now so I wouldn't expect more from them then signing blocks and keeping their version up to date.
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I think 3% delegates are making about $15 per month right now so I wouldn't expect more from them then signing blocks and keeping their version up to date.
Yeah, 3% delegates are below breakeven on running a server right now. The whole point of a 3% delegate is that we should only judge them producing blocks correctly (and decentralization, etc).
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Yes we absolutely need an SEO expert helping Bitshares.
Don't listen to Stan saying issues will soon be moot. Thats what he said last october/november, and the community happily sat there waiting, and then nothing happened.
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It takes MONTHS to get your alexa up.
We have so much to offer that doesn't require any media too, subjects like decentralized dns, or:
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+form+a+DAC
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=why+should+I+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+without+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+with+less+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+avoid+the+bail-ins
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+protect+my+wealth+from+bank+runs
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+financially+survive+without+a+bank
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=list+the+best+paying+savings+accounts
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+send+money+to+ukraine
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=are+my+crypto+coins+safe
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+do+I+save+for+my+kids+education
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
We have 101 Delegates too! 101!!
I ran some reports on github. You've got like 10 really active Delegates coding in there. Yes, 10.
Another 30 Delegates appear to be off and on coding.
Fuzzy is his own beast, everyone knows he works his ass off.
That leaves roughly 60 people getting paid to do what for us? Run a node?
When their node is running, what else are they doing to entice a WHALE?
We need ALL HANDS ON DECK.
I REFUSE to show any wall street brokers, bankers or wealth protection firms BitShares right now. (you know, WHALES). Why?
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
When you build a successful company, you hit the ground running and you grit your teeth and you fire your big guns every single day! You grab every body you can, you put their asses to work and you show them the returns of their hard work.
Unfortunately, the grassroots volunteer initiatives by almost everyone dried up when the marketing delegate thing happened and when the bulk marketing discussion was moved off of bitsharestalk for so called privacy reasons.
People will naturally not work for free while other 'marketers' are being paid by the blockchain for their efforts. This dichotomy has taken a toll on marketing numbers, we now expect a selected few marketing delegates to shoulder the load which has not worked out very well. We have little to no daily presence on bitcointalk or reddit, we have only a handful of related websites, no social media presence outside of the bitshares operated ones and the number of new account sign-ups per day has been going down since the beginning http://bitsharesblocks.com/charts/accounts. The one thing that partially motivated me as a 'volunteer' who has spent about $100 and over 100 hours developing two bitshares related domains was the referral system, which unfortunately appears abandoned except as a means to see how few sign-ups our 'marketers' actually get https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard.
Marketing delegates have never been paid (funds went toward advertising costs) which is why they all burned out. marketing.methodx is not controlled by me anymore and as far as I know the funds are being used to provide liquidity for metaexchange.
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Marketing delegates have never been paid (funds went toward advertising costs) which is why they all burned out. marketing.methodx is not controlled by me anymore and as far as I know the funds are being used to provide liquidity for metaexchange.
Yeah, the price decline meant that the funds just werent there to pay anyone.
I think that right now, pretty much all our paid delegates are doing something useful with the funds. Either they are devs getting paid way less than market rates, or they are spending it on helping promotions like minebitshares, or the argentina bitUSD giveaways.
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Adam was hired in part specifically because of SEO skills iirc
As I predicted Adam won't and will never bring anything tangible or worthwhile to Bitshares. Good thing bytemaster paid him $400K worth of losses in BTS. It actually makes me smile that the $500K investment in Adam is now worth $100K. It's the one golden thing that has come from the Merger.
I will love revisiting this topic every 6 months.
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It takes MONTHS to get your alexa up.
We have so much to offer that doesn't require any media too, subjects like decentralized dns, or:
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+form+a+DAC
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=why+should+I+decentralize+my+company
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+without+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=crypto+trading+with+less+government+risk
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+avoid+the+bail-ins
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+protect+my+wealth+from+bank+runs
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+financially+survive+without+a+bank
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=list+the+best+paying+savings+accounts
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+send+money+to+ukraine
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=are+my+crypto+coins+safe
https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+do+I+save+for+my+kids+education
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
We have 101 Delegates too! 101!!
I ran some reports on github. You've got like 10 really active Delegates coding in there. Yes, 10.
Another 30 Delegates appear to be off and on coding.
Fuzzy is his own beast, everyone knows he works his ass off.
That leaves roughly 60 people getting paid to do what for us? Run a node?
When their node is running, what else are they doing to entice a WHALE?
We need ALL HANDS ON DECK.
I REFUSE to show any wall street brokers, bankers or wealth protection firms BitShares right now. (you know, WHALES). Why?
Our image SUCKS.
Nobody knows we exist.
When you build a successful company, you hit the ground running and you grit your teeth and you fire your big guns every single day! You grab every body you can, you put their asses to work and you show them the returns of their hard work.
Unfortunately, the grassroots volunteer initiatives by almost everyone dried up when the marketing delegate thing happened and when the bulk marketing discussion was moved off of bitsharestalk for so called privacy reasons.
People will naturally not work for free while other 'marketers' are being paid by the blockchain for their efforts. This dichotomy has taken a toll on marketing numbers, we now expect a selected few marketing delegates to shoulder the load which has not worked out very well. We have little to no daily presence on bitcointalk or reddit, we have only a handful of related websites, no social media presence outside of the bitshares operated ones and the number of new account sign-ups per day has been going down since the beginning http://bitsharesblocks.com/charts/accounts. The one thing that partially motivated me as a 'volunteer' who has spent about $100 and over 100 hours developing two bitshares related domains was the referral system, which unfortunately appears abandoned except as a means to see how few sign-ups our 'marketers' actually get https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard.
Marketing delegates have never been paid (funds went toward advertising costs) which is why they all burned out. marketing.methodx is not controlled by me anymore and as far as I know the funds are being used to provide liquidity for metaexchange.
I think he was referring to the perception of delegates getting paid. Technically "funds went toward advertising" means you got to spend "not your money" on the costs where the assroots guys would've had to spend all of their own funds.
As I recall well before you joined the community there were a number of grassroot marketing delegates seeking funding from I3/Bytemaster, for ad costs and marketing ideas and nothing even warranted a response from Bytemaster and Stan camp mainly because the previous AdamKErnest known as Brian Page was around.
Another one of the 17+ recurring issues that are about to become moot.
:)
Why is that Stan?
Dude, don't make him lie anymore. He now has to come up with 16 more issues that have been resolved besides a functioning user friendly decentralized blockchain exchange.
Stan is he Rush Limbaugh of Bitshares. So full of s#|*, hot air and himself. He just posts stuff to see himself post stuff.
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Here's the accountability roster again if some more of you want to give me a hand:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
I think this thing can be good for BitShares.
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Stan - "Posting pictures of puppies" is good :)
Stan - "Marketing" not so much....
(http://i.imgur.com/ihbydJc.png)
I personally suggest :
Stan - Miscellaneous. including "Posting pictures of puppies, cartoon characters, rockets etc.",
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I don+t like this tone newmine and kencode. Far too aggressive, even if you want to do something good who are you, special people or something, pff, bad
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I don+t like this tone newmine and kencode. Far too aggressive, even if you want to do something good who are you, special people or something, pff, bad
Kencode is doing plenty of good work.
This is a great chart that needs to exist and be filled out and be kept up to date!
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Read again, i am talking about how they speak and not what they are doing
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Dude, don't make him lie anymore. He now has to come up with 16 more issues that have been resolved besides a functioning user friendly decentralized blockchain exchange.
Stan is he Rush Limbaugh of Bitshares. So full of s#|*, hot air and himself. He just posts stuff to see himself post stuff.
Newmine, your vitriol is occasionally funny but this is just nasty. Is your head so far up your own ass that you presume to be able to judge Stan with such precision that you feel comfortable using this language to describe him? I am absolutely disgusted at how readily some people can behave when the chips are down....or when they simply perceive them to be.
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Dude, don't make him lie anymore. He now has to come up with 16 more issues that have been resolved besides a functioning user friendly decentralized blockchain exchange.
Stan is he Rush Limbaugh of Bitshares. So full of s#|*, hot air and himself. He just posts stuff to see himself post stuff.
Newmine, your vitriol is occasionally funny but this is just nasty. Is your head so far up your own ass that you presume to be able to judge Stan with such precision that you feel comfortable using this language to describe him? I am absolutely disgusted at how readily some people can behave when the chips are down....or when they simply perceive them to be.
Actually I think it was indeed funny and surprisingly correct for NewMines' standards.
Some unimplemented feature is claimed to be solving 17+ problems (when it is not proven to solve even a single one) while the main product is left being a junk for 6 mo. ...in the mean time we can dream about all those great new features coming up!
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Dude, don't make him lie anymore. He now has to come up with 16 more issues that have been resolved besides a functioning user friendly decentralized blockchain exchange.
Stan is he Rush Limbaugh of Bitshares. So full of s#|*, hot air and himself. He just posts stuff to see himself post stuff.
Newmine, your vitriol is occasionally funny but this is just nasty. Is your head so far up your own ass that you presume to be able to judge Stan with such precision that you feel comfortable using this language to describe him? I am absolutely disgusted at how readily some people can behave when the chips are down....or when they simply perceive them to be.
Actually I think it was indeed funny and surprisingly correct for NewMines' standards.
Some unimplemented feature is claimed to be solving 17+ problems (when it is not proven to solve even a single one) while the main product is left being a junk for 6 mo. ...in the mean time we can dream about all those great new features coming up!
congratulations tonyk2, you managed to say virtually the same thing without being nasty. I don't want criticism to be stifled, but there are better ways. We are going to reach our objective....does it have to be kicking and screaming?
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For this, we should have like Ken suggested, a table of all 101 delegates, links to their proposals and updates and what each one of them is up to.
You're right on the money Akado.
I got started on the Roster this morning too (like I've got nothing better to do).
An accountability roster: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
I'll add more names to it in the coming days.
Something along these lines might already be in the works. Just sayin...it's possible.
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Marketing delegates have never been paid (funds went toward advertising costs) which is why they all burned out. marketing.methodx is not controlled by me anymore and as far as I know the funds are being used to provide liquidity for metaexchange.
This is unacceptable! Who the hell is accountable for the funds the marketing.methodx is generating?
When did delegates become transferable? It's one thing to transfer in the manor DSN assumed the minebitshares operation, totally above board, advertised and no mystery about who is accountable.
But when your name is used, it can be very deceptive, whether intended to be or not.
DPoS will certainly fail if one's actions are severed from accountability to them. It's tantamount to a proxy but nobody knows who controls it.
Lets polish up our best looking, most charismatic, smooth talking delegate to tell people what they want to hear, get huge support (the bait), get voted into the 101, then switch ownership / control to Mr. Wizard behind the curtain and take a luxurious cruise around the world.
NOT SAYING that is what methodX did, but like I DID SAY, who is now controlling the marketing.methodx funds? This is one problem when duties are split between the technical workers that actually control the delegate node and the figurehead or point man that is intended to be the recipient of the delegate funds.
It begs the question, who are the actual delegates controlling the software? Is it the person or team the shareholders think it is?
Yeah, this may be a moot point when (if?) the new delegate system is rolled out, ASSUMING we all know who we're voting for. BM has said the transition will be essentially a non-event, but it shouldn't be trivialized IMO, due in part to transfer scenarios like this. All delegates must be accountable to shareholders.
Now that I've heard straight from methodX, I am no longer going to support that delegate, whoever it's controlled by.
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Marketing delegates have never been paid (funds went toward advertising costs) which is why they all burned out. marketing.methodx is not controlled by me anymore and as far as I know the funds are being used to provide liquidity for metaexchange.
This is unacceptable! Who the hell is accountable for the funds the marketing.methodx is generating?
When did delegates become transferable? It's one thing to transfer in the manor DSN assumed the minebitshares operation, totally above board, advertised and no mystery about who is accountable.
But when your name is used, it can be very deceptive, whether intended to be or not.
DPoS will certainly fail if one's actions are severed from accountability to them. It's tantamount to a proxy but nobody knows who controls it.
Lets polish up our best looking, most charismatic, smooth talking delegate to tell people what they want to hear, get huge support (the bait), get voted into the 101, then switch ownership / control to Mr. Wizard behind the curtain and take a luxurious cruise around the world.
NOT SAYING that is what methodX did, but like I DID SAY, who is now controlling the marketing.methodx funds? This is one problem when duties are split between the technical workers that actually control the delegate node and the figurehead or point man that is intended to be the recipient of the delegate funds.
It begs the question, who are the actual delegates controlling the software? Is it the person or team the shareholders think it is?
Yeah, this may be a moot point when (if?) the new delegate system is rolled out, ASSUMING we all know who we're voting for. BM has said the transition will be essentially a non-event, but it shouldn't be trivialized IMO, due in part to transfer scenarios like this. All delegates must be accountable to shareholders.
Now that I've heard straight from methodX, I am no longer going to support that delegate, whoever it's controlled by.
Tried to edit the document to the best of my knowledge....substantially did the following actions in []:
Forum Name - Responsibilities - [approved/added/edited]
Stan - Posting pictures of puppies - [approved]
Methodx - Promised great Marketing; Threw some funds in the Deep Web; metaexchange uses the funds as it finds fit till further notice. [edited/ added]
media.bitscape - Mainly spending BTS delegate pay on traveling for fun! [added]
provisional.bitscape - Keeping company of media.bitscape on his vacations! [added]
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Actually I think it was indeed funny and surprisingly correct for NewMines' standards.
Some unimplemented feature is claimed to be solving 17+ problems (when it is not proven to solve even a single one) while the main product is left being a junk for 6 mo. ...in the mean time we can dream about all those great new features coming up!
congratulations tonyk2, you managed to say virtually the same thing without being nasty. I don't want criticism to be stifled, but there are better ways. We are going to reach our objective....does it have to be kicking and screaming?
He also managed to make six incorrect assertions in just two sentences. :)
Here's the deal: We want to let people know we are taking their concerns seriously, but we aren't going to announce any specifics until later. So the best I can do under those circumstances is to gently indicate when I see someone unnecessarily worried about an issue which we feel we have already addressed.
The number 17 was correct the last time I checked Bytemaster's existing draft document.
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Marketing delegates have never been paid (funds went toward advertising costs) which is why they all burned out. marketing.methodx is not controlled by me anymore and as far as I know the funds are being used to provide liquidity for metaexchange.
This is unacceptable! Who the hell is accountable for the funds the marketing.methodx is generating?
When did delegates become transferable? It's one thing to transfer in the manor DSN assumed the minebitshares operation, totally above board, advertised and no mystery about who is accountable.
But when your name is used, it can be very deceptive, whether intended to be or not.
DPoS will certainly fail if one's actions are severed from accountability to them. It's tantamount to a proxy but nobody knows who controls it.
Lets polish up our best looking, most charismatic, smooth talking delegate to tell people what they want to hear, get huge support (the bait), get voted into the 101, then switch ownership / control to Mr. Wizard behind the curtain and take a luxurious cruise around the world.
NOT SAYING that is what methodX did, but like I DID SAY, who is now controlling the marketing.methodx funds? This is one problem when duties are split between the technical workers that actually control the delegate node and the figurehead or point man that is intended to be the recipient of the delegate funds.
It begs the question, who are the actual delegates controlling the software? Is it the person or team the shareholders think it is?
Yeah, this may be a moot point when (if?) the new delegate system is rolled out, ASSUMING we all know who we're voting for. BM has said the transition will be essentially a non-event, but it shouldn't be trivialized IMO, due in part to transfer scenarios like this. All delegates must be accountable to shareholders.
Now that I've heard straight from methodX, I am no longer going to support that delegate, whoever it's controlled by.
LOL. I don't keep up with BitShares as much but I still know about this. This is a symptom of the voting system and the need for funds to help the #1 feature of BitShares, the bitAssets. They need support in the markets.
You come across as completely ridiculous in this post. This is like everyone bitching at Toast over that other delegate. Yes, there needs to be accountability but at this point this should be #18 on your list of things that need action.
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Another one of the 17+ recurring issues that are about to become moot.
:)
Why is that Stan?
separation of block signing by delegates and blockchain paying people for work has been discussed extensively recently; my guess is that is what he is referencing. Which I think is very much needed for the same reason this thread was brought up.
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Another one of the 17+ recurring issues that are about to become moot.
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Why is that Stan?
separation of block signing by delegates and blockchain paying people for work has been discussed extensively recently; my guess is that is what he is referencing. Which I think is very much needed for the same reason this thread was brought up.
Indeed. I don't really understand the reasons why this change is necessary, but they claim to have big important reasons, and that it will lead to great things for bitshares.
So I'm just going to say: You guys (Stan, Dev team, et al) better follow through this time. Last November we got this whole routine of hints and promises, and then the followup was nonexistent.
Now its hints and promises again. There needs to be a big followup this time. If there is, Bitshares credibility and your credibility will be restored, and Bitshares can have a bright future. If there is no followup again, this project will die and everyone left in the community will leave.
So make sure to back up your words this time with actions.
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Last November we got this whole routine of hints and promises, and then the followup was nonexistent.
Now its hints and promises again. There needs to be a big followup this time.
Just do not get your hopes too high.
Instead of being concerned about his 500+ unfulfilled promises so far , Stan is using his time to find 6 (in)correct assentation in 4 statements in a random post like mine....
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Just do not get your hopes too high.
Instead of being concerned about his 500+ unfulfilled promises so far , Stan is using his time to find 6 correct assentation in 4 statements of a random poster like me....
Yeah, my hopes for this are not all that high. I expect that they will at least announce *something*, and that BTS investors will go "okay, at least your words werent complete BS", and it wont disappoint people enough to crash the price. And then the BTS price can continue to recover from its current levels that are absurdly low and do not reflect the great potential that BTS has, towards more reasonable prices that do reflect the potential.
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I do a little bit of SEOd writing, and I have a blog which ranks reasonably well called Cryptorials.
Coincidentally, I rank higher than Bitshares' sites for 'decentralized crypto exchange' (page 2) and 'decentralized exchange' (page 3), although that's only a glossary page (and yes it does link to Bitshares)
It is also on page 1 of Google for competitive terms like 'how to mine cryptocurrency', 'make money trading bitcoin', 'bitcoin games' and others.
And I would be open to suggestions for topics to write about or search terms worth targeting.
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Google free game servers :)
Maybe we could help
#page1
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Since my last post I've become somewhat taken with the idea that I might be able to stand as a delegate by offering SEO services.
I've just been doing a small amount of preliminary research and I think I could really help improve the presence of Bitshares and related site in the search results.
Is there seriously demand for this, and does anyone think I would stand a chance of getting elected?
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Maybe we could help ... https://www.google.com/#q=%22total+utter+fucking+economic+collapse%22&filter=0 (https://www.google.com/#q=%22total+utter+fucking+economic+collapse%22&filter=0) ;)
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Maybe we could help ... https://www.google.com/#q=%22total+utter+fucking+economic+collapse%22&filter=0 (https://www.google.com/#q=%22total+utter+fucking+economic+collapse%22&filter=0) ;)
Lol thats hilarious. You type "total utter fucking economic collapse" into google and it brings up all your posts.
Yes, please help Bitshares so that when you type in certain things it comes up first. :)
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SEO delegate is a great idea and anyone knowledgeable should be voted in.
There have been many posts asking for a paid delegate to take on tracking delegates - who they are and what they are doing with delegate funds.
Which leads to a the need for a recruiter delegate whose sole job is to find people to be delegates.
No this isn't a joke, but rather shows the power of the Bitshares platform.
HR? We have a delegate for that (soonish).
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SEO delegate is a great idea and anyone knowledgeable should be voted in.
There have been many posts asking for a paid delegate to take on tracking delegates - who they are and what they are doing with delegate funds.
Which leads to a the need for a recruiter delegate whose sole job is to find people to be delegates.
No this isn't a joke, but rather shows the power of the Bitshares platform.
HR? We have a delegate for that (soonish).
it's a great idea. let some people put up a worker and fund a website/time to evaluate other workers. (HR) :)
I'll put up a blog and some infopages, SEO optimized, If there's an affiliate system. I managed to rank a little site on page 1 #5 with 350k "direct" search results, so I'm no stranger to SEO :)
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This thread is 95% ridiculous
KenCode - you're burning real hot right now... take care to stay properly hydrated
Tonyk2 - quaaludes
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This thread is 95% ridiculous
KenCode - you're burning real hot right now... take care to stay properly hydrated
Tonyk2 - quaaludes
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Kinda noticed it was like an all you can eat buffet of pointing fingers and chest beating. Really eclipsed the good news bump in our market cap today... we're up $1.5mill over last week!
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Really eclipsed the good news bump in our market cap today... we're up $1.5mill over last week!
This shouldn't be the motivation .. but it definitely results in a "good mood" :)
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Yeah, my hopes for this are not all that high.
I've read and listened to so much hype in the past 6 weeks that I'm going to be let down with anything less than Bitcoin 3.0.
Screw Bitcoin 2.0, Stan and Dan have me convinced they're bypassing 2.0 and moving on to Bitcoin 3.0, because they can!
I'm drinking the kool-aid this time, as a matter of fact I'm stirring up a fresh batch in a giant container for 1,800 others.
Who wants some?! (I'm spiking mine with Jack Daniels, just in case)
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I've read and listened to so much hype in the past 6 weeks that I'm going to be let down with anything less than Bitcoin 3.0.
Screw Bitcoin 2.0, Stan and Dan have me convinced they're bypassing 2.0 and moving on to Bitcoin 3.0, because they can!
Though they went from BitAsset 3.0 to BitAsset 2.0 .. :P :P
What exactly would a Bitcoin3.0 (or rather a blockchain 3.0) technology look like?
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Yeah, my hopes for this are not all that high.
I've read and listened to so much hype in the past 6 weeks that I'm going to be let down with anything less than Bitcoin 3.0.
Screw Bitcoin 2.0, Stan and Dan have me convinced they're bypassing 2.0 and moving on to Bitcoin 3.0, because they can!
I'm drinking the kool-aid this time, as a matter of fact I'm stirring up a fresh batch in a giant container for 1,800 others.
Who wants some?! (I'm spiking mine with Jack Daniels, just in case)
Hold the koolaid, pass the Jack ... something tells me we're gonna need it!
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I do a little bit of SEOd writing, and I have a blog which ranks reasonably well called Cryptorials.
Coincidentally, I rank higher than Bitshares' sites for 'decentralized crypto exchange' (page 2) and 'decentralized exchange' (page 3), although that's only a glossary page (and yes it does link to Bitshares)
It is also on page 1 of Google for competitive terms like 'how to mine cryptocurrency', 'make money trading bitcoin', 'bitcoin games' and others.
And I would be open to suggestions for topics to write about or search terms worth targeting.
@profitofthegods - I would like to recruit your help, please. I'm still pretty good at seo/sep myself, but I just don't have the time right now with the other stuff I'm working on, the wiki's, ddns, disqus and social media threads, etc. Is dmoz still worth it? Other dir's? I can't afford to pay out much more right now, but with an army of people in this community, I think we could ALL post a link to https://bitshares.org on 2 or 3 different sites and bump our alexa quite a bit.
At least get us onto page 1 for the 18 search strings I listed above jesus christ.
The owner of bitshares.org needs to completely revamp that site though, it's boring as hell and the bounce rate is insane- see my comments above. We can bring'm, but if we're not closin'm, then we're burning hours for no reason. I want someone to build us a REAL website, something exciting, something that tells me WHY I need to register and fund a BitShares account, and why I need to do it RIGHT NOW.
QUESTION: Would the community here like to see the Accountability Roster integrated with the bitsharesblocks website? Coingecko.com is a great example of what our Delegates table could look like. Let the world see who they can contact for marketing, sales questions, HR, technical support and puppies.
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Maybe we could help ... https://www.google.com/#q=%22total+utter+fucking+economic+collapse%22&filter=0 (https://www.google.com/#q=%22total+utter+fucking+economic+collapse%22&filter=0) ;)
Lol thats hilarious. You type "total utter fucking economic collapse" into google and it brings up all your posts.
Yes, please help Bitshares so that when you type in certain things it comes up first. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/Rgx8Iag.jpg)
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QUESTION: Would the community here like to see the Accountability Roster integrated with the bitsharesblocks website? Coingecko.com is a great example of what our Delegates table could look like. Let the world see who they can contact for marketing, sales questions, HR, technical support and puppies.
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Big YES from me. It would be great to have it.
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I'm tweakin the hell out of the Roster, but we still have 108 delegates listed..?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
You guys have edit access now, fyi..
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media.bitscape - Mainly spending BTS delegate pay on traveling for fun! [added]
provisional.bitscape - Keeping company of media.bitscape on his vacations! [added]
The interview they did on Bitcoins and Gravy was pretty good though.
If I weren't already into BitShares, I'd have looked into it after listening to that LTB podcast...
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I do a little bit of SEOd writing, and I have a blog which ranks reasonably well called Cryptorials.
Coincidentally, I rank higher than Bitshares' sites for 'decentralized crypto exchange' (page 2) and 'decentralized exchange' (page 3), although that's only a glossary page (and yes it does link to Bitshares)
It is also on page 1 of Google for competitive terms like 'how to mine cryptocurrency', 'make money trading bitcoin', 'bitcoin games' and others.
And I would be open to suggestions for topics to write about or search terms worth targeting.
@profitofthegods - I would like to recruit your help, please. I'm still pretty good at seo/sep myself, but I just don't have the time right now with the other stuff I'm working on, the wiki's, ddns, disqus and social media threads, etc. Is dmoz still worth it? Other dir's? I can't afford to pay out much more right now, but with an army of people in this community, I think we could ALL post a link to https://bitshares.org on 2 or 3 different sites and bump our alexa quite a bit.
At least get us onto page 1 for the 18 search strings I listed above jesus christ.
The owner of bitshares.org needs to completely revamp that site though, it's boring as hell and the bounce rate is insane- see my comments above. We can bring'm, but if we're not closin'm, then we're burning hours for no reason. I want someone to build us a REAL website, something exciting, something that tells me WHY I need to register and fund a BitShares account, and why I need to do it RIGHT NOW.
QUESTION: Would the community here like to see the Accountability Roster integrated with the bitsharesblocks website? Coingecko.com is a great example of what our Delegates table could look like. Let the world see who they can contact for marketing, sales questions, HR, technical support and puppies.
Cass and Bytemaster worked directly on bitshares.org if I can remember correctly. They said the goal was to make it look professional and like a crypto exchange website. We had flashier websites prior to the current one, but they felt gimmicky and were difficult to navigate. I like the current bitshares.org as it is clean and to the point like many forex and stock trading webpages. I'm sure it will be updated to include more content and resources once more of our core products come out.
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media.bitscape - Mainly spending BTS delegate pay on traveling for fun! [added]
provisional.bitscape - Keeping company of media.bitscape on his vacations! [added]
The interview they did on Bitcoins and Gravy was pretty good though.
If I weren't already into BitShares, I'd have looked into it after listening to that LTB podcast...
Every time I look at a post of yours I am reminded that you changed you profile pic for me {heart}. What I mean is I know I owe you big time!
So how this sounds:
media.bitscape - Had a great interview with "bitcoins and gravy"... once. Great achievement keeping in mind he spends 99% of his time traveling on BTS buck! [added/edited]
Good?
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@profitofthegods - I would like to recruit your help, please. I'm still pretty good at seo/sep myself, but I just don't have the time right now with the other stuff I'm working on, the wiki's, ddns, disqus and social media threads, etc. Is dmoz still worth it? Other dir's? I can't afford to pay out much more right now, but with an army of people in this community, I think we could ALL post a link to https://bitshares.org on 2 or 3 different sites and bump our alexa quite a bit.
At least get us onto page 1 for the 18 search strings I listed above jesus christ.
The owner of bitshares.org needs to completely revamp that site though, it's boring as hell and the bounce rate is insane- see my comments above. We can bring'm, but if we're not closin'm, then we're burning hours for no reason. I want someone to build us a REAL website, something exciting, something that tells me WHY I need to register and fund a BitShares account, and why I need to do it RIGHT NOW.
QUESTION: Would the community here like to see the Accountability Roster integrated with the bitsharesblocks website? Coingecko.com is a great example of what our Delegates table could look like. Let the world see who they can contact for marketing, sales questions, HR, technical support and puppies.
I don't usually bother with directories myself; they probably do have some value but not enough for it to be worth the time imo, unless perhaps its a new site with no links and you just want to get the ball rolling. I also suspect that DMOZ doesn't really have any special status now, the way it did.
I think you are right about the website. On-page SEO is way more important than off-page SEO these days, which means targeted content. Yes it would be good to present a clear case for why somebody needs to register and fund an account, but I would go even further and say it would be good to think about the kind of people who would benefit and the kind of things they might be searching for that Bitshares can provide a solution for, and present a compelling case multiple times in different ways and perhaps on multiple web properties too.
In terms of links, quality is better than quantity. Do what Google says you should do - if you can post a link somewhere it's likely to get seen by real people who may genuinely be interested then that's really great and everyone should try to do that if the opportunity is there. But be careful about getting a small army of people to just start posting links everywhere they can, because it can be counterproductive if it makes your link profile look unnatural.
If you need help identifying search terms to target or optimizing content for Bitshares.org then let me know. My starting point is to have a list of search terms and a list of pages which answer those queries, which is half the job really.
I think I am going to do a little test and if I think I can do anything good I may stand as a delegate.
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Cass and Bytemaster (as per lil_jay890 recommendation) will need to hand over the reigns to the bitshares.org website. It is posted on github as far as I know, but be careful, egos can be bruised there but if you show them/us what you can do, then you will most definitely have MY vote and possible many others as well.
Please start by sending a PM to cass and bytemaster both. If they don't reply, or give us a favorable reply, then we'll deal with them appropriately.
You are a shareholder now I assume, so they need to answer to you. Please let us know what they say.
I will try to help you with a lot more search string research too.
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media.bitscape - Mainly spending BTS delegate pay on traveling for fun! [added]
provisional.bitscape - Keeping company of media.bitscape on his vacations! [added]
The interview they did on Bitcoins and Gravy was pretty good though.
If I weren't already into BitShares, I'd have looked into it after listening to that LTB podcast...
Every time I look at a post of yours I am reminded that you changed you profile pic for me {heart}. What I mean is I know I owe you big time!
So how this sounds:
media.bitscape - Had a great interview with "bitcoins and gravy"... once. Great achievement keeping in mind he spends 99% of his time traveling on BTS buck! [added/edited]
Good?
Tonyk2 I'm not going to waste too much of my time expressing all the ways which I have contributed to this project since your blissfully ignorant and baseless slander is like a fountain of horseshit.
But for the benefit of those who read your drivel I will just add that since I started working on this project I have spent thousands of dollars of my own money while receiving a sum of equity not nearly adequate to pay for my time and efforts and expenditures at the current value.
Nevertheless I continue my efforts as I am able despite the armchair yodeling of folks like you who have all the time in the world to slander others while contributing only capital (i presume) and your lordly opinions from the safety of your armchair.
Thankfully there are 10 contributing members of this community for every festering boil such as yourself.
Sincerely,
Bitscape
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guys, follow my vote is being paid to take care of bitshares.org SEO. I asked him once in a hangout... if you want results, demand them. I have not seen a single google analytics sheet since then
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guys, follow my vote is being paid to take care of bitshares.org SEO. I asked him once in a hangout... if you want results, demand them. I have not seen a single google analytics sheet since then
Whats the best way to contact FMV?
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guys, follow my vote is being paid to take care of bitshares.org SEO. I asked him once in a hangout... if you want results, demand them. I have not seen a single google analytics sheet since then
Whats the best way to contact FMV?
adam@followmyvote.com
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Cass and Bytemaster (as per lil_jay890 recommendation) will need to hand over the reigns to the bitshares.org website. It is posted on github as far as I know, but be careful, egos can be bruised there but if you show them/us what you can do, then you will most definitely have MY vote and possible many others as well.
Please start by sending a PM to cass and bytemaster both. If they don't reply, or give us a favorable reply, then we'll deal with them appropriately.
You are a shareholder now I assume, so they need to answer to you. Please let us know what they say.
I will try to help you with a lot more search string research too.
If you mean me, I certainly wouldn't want to try to take over Bitshares.org, Apart from anything else, I have the design skills of a 5 year old child playing with blunt crayons.
I would be happy to assist by providing optimized content for specific pages if its wanted. For example, there is currently a box which mentions low fees - that could have a learn more link to a page which might target search terms related to low fees trading. The content would probably be 90% fluff, but it is something that could potentially get search hits.
Also I would personally feel most comfortable concentrating on publishing landing pages about Bitshares on other sites - blogs, web 2.0 sites and so on, hoping for search positioning on long tail keywords for those, and then sending people to Bitshares once they are half sold on the whole thing. The one big benefit of that is if you do something the big G doesn't like when trying to rank those pages the negative effect stays on that page and doesn't impact the main BTS site. Of course the links from those pages would also still have a net positive effect on the serps for the main site.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Rgx8Iag.jpg)
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The meta tags and all that crap in the <head> of the bitshares.org site has got to go.
Move all the inline scripts to the bottom
Beef up the meta descrip, title and keywords, streamline..
https://bitshares.org/robots.txt
https://bitshares.org/sitemap.xml
The top of the page has squat for indexing too so at least one keyword intensive paragraph near the top of the homepage is what the engines will crawl first.
Then, we can dive into the gateway pages and such, but you're right too that the engines will discount us if we appear to be spamming, so linking has to be done in places where it's actually applicable, so anyone reading this, PLEASE TAKE NOTE.
The graphics all need descriptive alt text and the links need title text too. Pack the page with engine food.
It never hurts to list in the most appropriate directories too, like dmoz.
Here's another site I've used for over 15 years:
http://www.submitexpress.com/free-submission.html
Google analytics and webmaster tools is imperative, so cass and bytemaster will need to make you a Manager on those 2 sites as well.
I'll help you push for votes if you show us your stuff profitofthegods - I'm with you every step of the way.
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What exactly would a Bitcoin3.0 (or rather a blockchain 3.0) technology look like?
BitShares 1.0
Disclaimer : I've already had some kool-aid today.
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I'll help you push for votes if you show us your stuff profitofthegods - I'm with you every step of the way.
Thanks, I've sent a pm and I have no problem taking care of the tasks you mentioned.
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The owner of bitshares.org needs to completely revamp that site though, it's boring as hell and the bounce rate is insane- see my comments above. We can bring'm, but if we're not closin'm, then we're burning hours for no reason. I want someone to build us a REAL website, something exciting, something that tells me WHY I need to register and fund a BitShares account, and why I need to do it RIGHT NOW.
We used to have a very well designed and modern-looking website back in 2014 (it was before the merger I guess). I remember it had large images in the background and it scrolled down nicely describing different aspects of BitShares. Anyone can tell me what was the reason we replaced it with the current not-very-exciting design?
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bitshares.org is currently in its 7th version, the latest the best by far but it was supposed to have more stuff added that never was. Most importantly, what is needed is charts.
How can we be an exchange if we do not have charts that show active trading happening? Our exchange should have charts on the website, I might know that I can go to an external site like bitsharesblocks to find a chart of BitGOLD, BitUSD, or the relevant UIA's like NOTE, but the average user and first-time visitor do not know that. This has been discussed many times, but it does not happen and it is probably keeping us from closing our visitors by getting them to sign-up and become users.
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The owner of bitshares.org needs to completely revamp that site though, it's boring as hell and the bounce rate is insane- see my comments above. We can bring'm, but if we're not closin'm, then we're burning hours for no reason. I want someone to build us a REAL website, something exciting, something that tells me WHY I need to register and fund a BitShares account, and why I need to do it RIGHT NOW.
We used to have a very well designed and modern-looking website back in 2014 (it was before the merger I guess). I remember it had large images in the background and it scrolled down nicely describing different aspects of BitShares. Anyone can tell me what was the reason we replaced it with the current not-very-exiting design?
Partially because we wanted to look more like ethereum and other similar crypto-sites. While the flashier site was deemed to be less appealing to our then current target market of crypto-enthusiasts as it was designed to get the attention of the mainstream world for whom our product was not yet ready for.
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bytemaster will need to make you a Manager on those 2 sites as well.
I'll help you push for votes if you show us your stuff profitofthegods - I'm with you every step of the way.
I don't know if he does, but Dan shouldn't even be worried about the site. It should be his last priority. It shouldn't even have to be a priority for him or core devs. They shouldn't have to worry about the looks of a website when we have plenty of people to do so (i guess). It's way more accessible for someone to help the development of the side, than the development of the client.
Tbh I like the clean look of the page, it just could look a little bit more dynamic. I'll try and take a look at the files when I can, if they're available. Also, Max's videos about BitShares 101 should be there. It's a must. Dunno about the new BitAsset implementation which can make his videos outdated, however, they should be placed there asap. If I didn't know what BitShares was about, I don't want to have to hunt for info, I want it all in one place. In case I don't understand it very well, I want to have a short video available to check it out. I might just drop the idea if I can't find the stuff I want in the main site.
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How can we be an exchange if we do not have charts that show active trading happening? Our exchange should have charts on the website, I might know that I can go to an external site like bitsharesblocks to find a chart of BitGOLD, BitUSD, or the relevant UIA's like NOTE, but the average user and first-time visitor do not know that. This has been discussed many times, but it does not happen and it is probably keeping us from closing our visitors by getting them to sign-up and become users.
@bitsharesblog.com +5% +5% +5%
Bingo! Now that's a great idea! A real-time candlestick chart(s) ticking to the left every couple of seconds so the page has some motion on it. tickers are great, but colorful charting action, ie: https://www.ripplecharts.com
Motion creates emotion, like I mentioned twice above. It doesn't have to have a full window video background, but if there is always some motion and color, the emotion that comes from that entices the visitor, starts conversation, lures click-throughs......
also, these catch phrases are just me thinking out loud, but you get my drift:
"Buy 1 ounce of bitSILVER and you can earn over 5% returns every, single, day."
"Put your bank to shame- Owning even 1 BitAsset can pay out over 5% every, single, day."
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How can we be an exchange if we do not have charts that show active trading happening? Our exchange should have charts on the website, I might know that I can go to an external site like bitsharesblocks to find a chart of BitGOLD, BitUSD, or the relevant UIA's like NOTE, but the average user and first-time visitor do not know that. This has been discussed many times, but it does not happen and it is probably keeping us from closing our visitors by getting them to sign-up and become users.
@bitsharesblog.com +5% +5% +5%
Bingo! Now that's a great idea! A real-time candlestick chart(s) ticking to the left every couple of seconds so the page has some motion on it. tickers are great, but colorful charting action, ie: https://www.ripplecharts.com
Motion creates emotion, like I mentioned twice above. It doesn't have to have a full window video background, but if there is always some motion and color, the emotion that comes from that entices the visitor, starts conversation, lures click-throughs......
also, these catch phrases are just me thinking out loud, but you get my drift:
"Buy 1 ounce of bitSILVER and you can earn over 5% returns every, single, day."
"Put your bank to shame- Owning even 1 BitAsset can pay out over 5% every, single, day."
Sounds very sales pitchy with that kind of lingo, and it sounds like your saying that every day you earn 5% on bitSilver... Maybe something closer to "Find out why bitSilver needs to be in your portfolio"
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Saying anything about 5% a day makes it sound like a scam.
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Saying anything about 5% a day makes it sound like a scam.
this. and it would be a lie.
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Yeah, I know, I said I was just thinkin out loud.
We need one or two catchy phrases that makes anyone want to click in further.
Something that pulls you in and peaks your curiosity, know what I mean?
Secondly, the Accountability Roster is only about 50% complete so far. Feel free to add stuff where you see fit, please:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
Edit: I see a lot of red text on the Roster now
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Can we do banner advertisement? I've never seen BTS ads on the web. We can declare "BitAssets - The world's first cryptocurrency with stable value"
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Can we do banner advertisement? I've never seen BTS ads on the web. We can declare "BitAssets - The world's first cryptocurrency with stable value"
I don't know about you guys, but I've inadvertently trained my eyes to ignore ads on the web these days. I think paying for banner or column ads would be a waste of money. If we could get Bitpay or other centralized exchanges to link to us however, that would help our alexa rank quite a bit.
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Can we do banner advertisement? I've never seen BTS ads on the web. We can declare "BitAssets - The world's first cryptocurrency with stable value"
I don't know about you guys, but I've inadvertently trained my eyes to ignore ads on the web these days. I think paying for banner or column ads would be a waste of money. If we could get Bitpay or other centralized exchanges to link to us however, that would help our alexa rank quite a bit.
The problem of us is that almost all of articles and news on Blockchain 2.0 ignore Bitshares. They mention Ethereum, Namecoin, Counterparty, Ripple, and so forth, but no BItshares. They even don't know there already exist decentralized exchange and value pegged assets.If I have a 100% delegate, I will spend all of my money lobbying journalists.
Oh I forgot this. I am trying to attract traditional investors now. I don't have any reliable sources (like forbes, NYT, etc.) to show.
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Can we do banner advertisement? I've never seen BTS ads on the web. We can declare "BitAssets - The world's first cryptocurrency with stable value"
I don't know about you guys, but I've inadvertently trained my eyes to ignore ads on the web these days. I think paying for banner or column ads would be a waste of money. If we could get Bitpay or other centralized exchanges to link to us however, that would help our alexa rank quite a bit.
The problem of us is that almost all of articles and news on Blockchain 2.0 ignore Bitshares. They mention Ethereum, Namecoin, Counterparty, Ripple, and so forth, but no BItshares. They even don't know there already exist decentralized exchange and value pegged assets.If I have a 100% delegate, I will spend all of my money lobbying journalists.
Oh I forgot this. I am trying to attract traditional investors now. I don't have any reliable sources (like forbes, NYT, etc.) to show.
Attracting media is pretty easy (Let's talk bitcoin, cointelegraph amanda, cointelegraph mike ward, etc). Getting journalists doesn't cost us anything. Show them the many positive things that BitShares is bringing and voila.
Attracting any investor, especially whales, require the things I have outlined above. User Experience. Pitch and close. Every web property we manage (esp. bitshares.org, metaexchange, bitsharesblocks, even this forum should be higher end like Discourse) needs to attract click-ins.
I met with a whale in person for 2 hours yesterday too. His biggest thing was showing me how cool and easy to use the ripple websites were. ripple.com, ripplecharts, etc. He really didn't care how decentralized we were or how fast our block times were. He can sell us to his clients, but he has also said that our websites and gui's need to be completely redone by a pro. Yes, a pro that is used to making $100+ per hour all day long.
Those charts are the best idea I've heard yet. (look ~5 posts up..). Nice value add there.
Adding the Accountability Roster's info to Bitsharesblocks will be another. Transparency.
Once we weed out some of the red on the roster, I will bring us a couple hard working web pros. I'm very good at screening new employees. I know entire communities of high-end web designers that are willing to work for crypto, but I won't go and recruit their services until we clean things up first. I think some delegates have just gotten burned out, their short attention span has killed their motivation. Please help us edit their info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hh8jgvruJmWm4UDRJSSdz3rUqBDDEQWfjzMwJUI3z1o/edit#gid=0
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Those charts are the best idea I've heard yet. (look ~5 posts up..). Nice value add there.
Does Ripple have a decentralized client with charts like this? ;)
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Attracting any investor, especially whales, require the things I have outlined above. User Experience. Pitch and close. Every web property we manage (esp. bitshares.org, metaexchange, bitsharesblocks, even this forum should be higher end like Discourse) needs to attract click-ins.
Please let's do this right now.
I met with a whale in person for 2 hours yesterday too. His biggest thing was showing me how cool and easy to use the ripple websites were. ripple.com, ripplecharts, etc. He really didn't care how decentralized we were or how fast our block times were. He can sell us to his clients, but he has also said that our websites and gui's need to be completely redone by a pro. Yes, a pro that is used to making $100+ per hour all day long.
IMO, a true value of company comes from profit, not from a design. I agree with your idea, but the priority is make a profit-generating system. Our 6-month PER is -193, which means we didn't make any profit through this DAC. (surely, my calculation can be wrong) Attracting investors are also easy... show them high profits
Anyway, please keep doing your great works Ken! :)
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Alt's delegate is "delegate.baozi" and not delegate.bitsuperlab I don't know why he is in the red. My guess is someone has placed the wrong Forum Name? Name of the members can be found here though I don't know who is responsible for that particular delegate http://www.bitsuperlab.com/ nor am I up to date with his job. I'm not placing him on the red. Just don't know his username on the forums
We're missing a lot of info there, which honestly, delegates themselves should be providing. It's in their best interest to do so. Maybe we should create a new thread with a template with
Forum Name:
Delegate Name:
Proof of Work Link:
Duties:
for them to fill. it should be easier for everyone.
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Alt's delegate is "delegate.baozi" and not delegate.bitsuperlab I don't know why he is in the red. My guess is someone has placed the wrong Forum Name? Name of the members can be found here though I don't know who is responsible for that particular delegate http://www.bitsuperlab.com/ nor am I up to date with his job. I'm not placing him on the red. Just don't know his username on the forums
We're missing a lot of info there, which honestly, delegates themselves should be providing. It's in their best interest to do so. Maybe we should create a new thread with a template with
Ok, I have moved Alt up a bit, not sure if I should remove the red yet though (you can do this too) as it appears he has 3 delegates? That can't be right, or?
Secondly, I have created the Delegate Accountability Roster (DAR) thread as per your request, here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16336.0.html
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Can we remove the red comments? (made by tonyk I guess)
They might be funny but it looks highly unprofessional.
The link to the roster is in public domain now - we should be more careful how we might be perceived by the outside world.
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Yeah, that and the silly comments somebody is in there making, along with cursewords and such.
Let's stick to just the facts on people, please.
I strip those things out as fast as they appear though, I'm trying anyways.
I really need some help with the forum usernames column too, and the delegate proposal url's.
trying to find those url's sucks bigtime because the search feature of this forum sucks. Did I say sucks? It sucks.
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Sorry Ken, I was too harsh with you, hit the wrong guy.. I love this list! GOOD advertisement for my enterprise! Thank you!
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Sorry Ken, I was too harsh with you, hit the wrong guy.. I love this list! GOOD advertisement for my enterprise! Thank you!
Thank you for your work too 38PTSWarrior :)
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What BitShares also needs is a crystal clear business plan (product description, market potential, profitability expectation) and strategy (development timetable, marketing plan), even if that means bringing in some good advice. This is required to attract real funds for development and fast-track growth, rather than operating on time charity.
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here is my seo contribution
https://beyondbitcoin.org/10-bitshares-related-projects-to-lookout-for-in-2015/
if you have anything to add just reply or pm me.
If you think this is good i can try to writer more stuff but i don't know atm what topic to choose.
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here is my seo contribution
https://beyondbitcoin.org/10-bitshares-related-projects-to-lookout-for-in-2015/
if you have anything to add just reply or pm me.
If you think this is good i can try to writer more stuff but i don't know atm what topic to choose.
Great job jabbajabba!
If I could suggest one thing tho, is to use descriptive text for the actual href's. Search engine food for indexing.
So, when linking to MineBitShares for example, make the link on that one something like this instead (JUST as an example is all I'm sayin):
yadda yadda and <a href="http://www.minebitshares.com">reuse your old Bitcoin mining equipment</a> yadda yadda
also, linking their logo to its png file doesn't help search engine indexing. we want them to index the content and *what* Minebitshares does more than anything else (use descriptive img alt="" params too) so that when people search for earning money with their old bitcoin mining equipment, then google will know to display the minebitshares url in the search results, because you have then told google *what* Minebitshares actually does. hope that made sense :o
Do that same sort of descriptive linking for every company you have listed on that page.
Great work jabbajabba thank you!!!!!! :)
-ken
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Bytemaster replied to my PM saying that Bitshares.org will be getting re-worked with some additional content in the not to distant future. He accepted my offer to help with the optimization once they've done that.
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Bytemaster replied to my PM saying that Bitshares.org will be getting re-worked with some additional content in the not to distant future. He accepted my offer to help with the optimization once they've done that.
Those kind of replies are all too common. Please have BM clarify exactly *who* has been assigned to the task of redesigning the website, *who* is the expert assigned to the seo/sep, *what* exactly (details) will be done to the ui/ux and by *when* it will be completed and posted online for approval by the community before its launch.
I do not have time for word games so please have him report on these details, thank you @profitofthegods :)
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Those kind of replies are all too common. Please have BM clarify exactly *who* has been assigned to the task of redesigning the website, *who* is the expert assigned to the seo/sep, *what* exactly (details) will be done to the ui/ux and by *when* it will be completed and posted online for approval by the community before its launch.
I do not have time for word games so please have him report on these details, thank you @profitofthegods :)
I am not comfortable being so pushy with him. When it is redesigned I will do the on-page SEO, until then there are other things I can do.
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Bytemaster replied to my PM saying that Bitshares.org will be getting re-worked with some additional content in the not to distant future. He accepted my offer to help with the optimization once they've done that.
Those kind of replies are all too common. Please have BM clarify exactly *who* has been assigned to the task of redesigning the website, *who* is the expert assigned to the seo/sep, *what* exactly (details) will be done to the ui/ux and by *when* it will be completed and posted online for approval by the community before its launch.
I do not have time for word games so please have him report on these details, thank you @profitofthegods :)
In the past BM was commenting daily on all the threads he felt he could add his input. It changed, because what he said was constantly interpreted in various ways (language barrier, FUDers taking advantage of the lack of clarity, etc.) and caused massive panics and severe issues. He learned from that, and now he very seldomly intervenes on the forum, and when he does he reveals very little, except when he wants the community's input on various propositions. Everything that is said by him or the team on the forum has now to be vetted.
So from what he hinted several times in the last few weeks, it appears there's a global plan that is currently being worked on behind the scenes, and we should learn about it in the next month or so. Is it BS? I don't know, but I'm willing to take the bet that it isn't. My bet is that he wouldn't do the same mistake twice, hyping the crowd by hinting to big things and then not delivering.
So before you realize you've been working on something that has already been worked on by the dev team and that what you've done is only duplicate work, do you think it would be a good idea to validate with the team that you're putting your efforts in the right direction? (If you haven't already done it, that is)
I understand and like your sense of urgency, and I've told you so in a different thread. But getting focused on the right priorities is as important as getting the work done.
If you've already been in contact with BM or the team and your questions haven't been answered clearly, just disregard this post lol
In any case, keep up the good work! +5%
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here is my seo contribution
https://beyondbitcoin.org/10-bitshares-related-projects-to-lookout-for-in-2015/
if you have anything to add just reply or pm me.
If you think this is good i can try to writer more stuff but i don't know atm what topic to choose.
very nice, I linked your article in my blog. In addition to Ken's suggestions, consider writing topics that will have a title and content that connect with commonly searched phrases from our crypto niche.
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Thanx to some child typing "pooper scooper" (luckily I was in there at that moment witnessing his copy/paste bs) I have locked the document.
From this point forward, if you would like to help us finish the document, please email me your email address so that I can allow you direct access and I can see who edits what.
Un-freakin-believable.
My email address is: ken@BitShares-Munich.de
Thank you in advance,
-ken
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Thanx to some child typing "pooper scooper" (luckily I was in there at that moment witnessing his copy/paste bs) I have locked the document.
From this point forward, if you would like to help us finish the document, please email me your email address so that I can allow you direct access and I can see who edits what.
Un-freakin-believable.
My email address is: ken@BitShares-Munich.de
Thank you in advance,
-ken
Edit: ONLY forum members that are "Full Member" and higher will be granted access to the DAR at this point. >:(
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Bytemaster replied to my PM saying that Bitshares.org will be getting re-worked with some additional content in the not to distant future. He accepted my offer to help with the optimization once they've done that.
Those kind of replies are all too common. Please have BM clarify exactly *who* has been assigned to the task of redesigning the website, *who* is the expert assigned to the seo/sep, *what* exactly (details) will be done to the ui/ux and by *when* it will be completed and posted online for approval by the community before its launch.
I do not have time for word games so please have him report on these details, thank you @profitofthegods :)
While I do admire your energy (specifically I like you 'desire to thank everybody who voted for you in a separate post' gig)
I have one question.
Who exactly appointed you to the "All should respond/report to me and should be held accountable by me" position?
Just curious?
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Bytemaster replied to my PM saying that Bitshares.org will be getting re-worked with some additional content in the not to distant future. He accepted my offer to help with the optimization once they've done that.
Those kind of replies are all too common. Please have BM clarify exactly *who* has been assigned to the task of redesigning the website, *who* is the expert assigned to the seo/sep, *what* exactly (details) will be done to the ui/ux and by *when* it will be completed and posted online for approval by the community before its launch.
I do not have time for word games so please have him report on these details, thank you @profitofthegods :)
While I do admire your energy (specifically I like you 'desire to thank everybody who voted for you in a separate post' gig)
I have one question.
Who exactly appointed you to the "All should respond/report to me and should be held accountable by me" position?
Just curious?
I think you're taking that too literally tony. Someone needs to have the initiative, otherwise things won't get done. And everyone who wants can help so it's not like that in my opinion.
As for delegates, I think they should indeed report to this or a specific thread regarding the info that is needed for the document. A delegate should worry about that kind of stuff, about transparency and at least, showing off his work, at least if I was one, I would be proud to show how I've contributed to BitShares. People shouldn't have to worry about the delegates username on the forum or his github account page, the delegates themselves should to that and be active enough on the forums to notice and post here. Delegates come with responsibilities, a minimum of transparency is needed and that's just what we want here
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Bytemaster replied to my PM saying that Bitshares.org will be getting re-worked with some additional content in the not to distant future. He accepted my offer to help with the optimization once they've done that.
Those kind of replies are all too common. Please have BM clarify exactly *who* has been assigned to the task of redesigning the website, *who* is the expert assigned to the seo/sep, *what* exactly (details) will be done to the ui/ux and by *when* it will be completed and posted online for approval by the community before its launch.
I do not have time for word games so please have him report on these details, thank you @profitofthegods :)
While I do admire your energy (specifically I like you 'desire to thank everybody who voted for you in a separate post' gig)
I have one question.
Who exactly appointed you to the "All should respond/report to me and should be held accountable by me" position?
Just curious?
Perhaps the utter and complete lack of leadership on the project outside of the development team left such a vacuum that poor Ken was sucked into that void.
If someone chooses to not listen to Ken then nothing changes.
This place needs at least one community motivator.
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While I do admire your energy (specifically I like you 'desire to thank everybody who voted for you in a separate post' gig)
I have one question.
Who exactly appointed you to the "All should respond/report to me and should be held accountable by me" position?
Just curious?
We need to support the people in the community who lead the charge to take action, not denigrate them.
Also, you shouldnt interpret this spreadsheet as "report to KenCode or else". It is a community informational spreadsheet on delegate info. We've needed it for a while.
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Thanx gamey :)
Ya know this sucks tho man, we almost had the Roster DONE and some snot nosed kid comes in there, f*cks it up (good thing I do backup copies every 30min) and now it sits there. Akado sent me his email address and I gave him edit permissions again, but man I was in there working and we'd have like 10 people at a time in there working on it all at once. It's was cool to watch everyone working together in real-time. :-\
All it took was for one kid (he's probably masturbating in a corner right now) to ruin it for all of us.
Everyone can comment on it, Full Members and up can edit (just email me).
I'll PM @svk and see if I can help him integrate these additional values with the btsblocks/delegates table. (github?)
god, i feel so disgusted right now. if that kid was in reach, my non-aggression principle would fly right out the window.
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(he's probably masturbating in a corner right now)
oh boi :D :D :D
i almost spit water all over my keyboard.
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(he's probably masturbating in a corner right now)
oh boi :D :D :D
i almost spit water all over my keyboard.
Yah real men do it in the middle of the room?
(?????????)
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Wherever, but what i hope for is a better ranking. I wish that the blade of rost will take me to higher grounds and not bury me.
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Bytemaster replied to my PM saying that Bitshares.org will be getting re-worked with some additional content in the not to distant future. He accepted my offer to help with the optimization once they've done that.
Those kind of replies are all too common. Please have BM clarify exactly *who* has been assigned to the task of redesigning the website, *who* is the expert assigned to the seo/sep, *what* exactly (details) will be done to the ui/ux and by *when* it will be completed and posted online for approval by the community before its launch.
I do not have time for word games so please have him report on these details, thank you @profitofthegods :)
While I do admire your energy (specifically I like you 'desire to thank everybody who voted for you in a separate post' gig)
I have one question.
Who exactly appointed you to the "All should respond/report to me and should be held accountable by me" position?
Just curious?
Perhaps the utter and complete lack of leadership on the project outside of the development team leaves such a vacuum that poor Ken was sucked into that void.
If someone chooses to not listen to Ken then nothing changes.
This place needs at least one community motivator.
While I agree in principle, in this particular case this is ...just the next crook (in my opinion)...but only time will tell... I do wish I am wrong for once, doe....
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in this particular case this is ...just the next crook (in my opinion)
"crook"? how so?
FWIW, that claim would hold much more weight posted under your main account. Making such claims under a new account, not so much ... it comes across as FUD.
afaict, Ken's just trying to create value for his investment. Reading between the lines over the past few months, to me it seems he needs to cash out some of it now at a profit (best guess) or he simply hopes to return BTS to his purchase price soon to make him (and other interested parties, family for instance) feel better about the investment Ken has made (to justify it, I believe were his words long ago).
Then again, I'm drinking way to much BitShares Kool-Aid (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16334.msg208840.html#msg208840)spiked with JD and I could be way off with that assessment.
Back to Ken's thread!
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I apologize for my pushy-sounding tone yesterday, I was extremely aggravated that I have to grab so many by the earlobe just to get them to help our cause here. The amount of money I am spending is trivial compared to what we'll all make if we work hard though, so, I work hard.
The comment directed at BM was more or less me trying to convey to the community that we don't need a leader. If Dan is a coder, let him code and leave him alone. We can verify his efforts on github. Bother the web guy for web stuff, the tech support people for tech support, etc.
Delegates (paid or not) should be REQUIRED to complete their Public Data and publish it (services, link to forum profile, link to delegate proposal, country code, etc (http://i.imgur.com/CXQ3uOz.png)). The DAR is my attempt to shed some light on the need for this. Employees will become very very lazy if they are not driven by the shareholders, I promise you that. There's currently 449 Delegates. Seriously, 449! I want to verify what each of the company employees are up to, don't you? Shareholders here actually have a say in the matter, this is epic!
After the poop kid incident yesterday and I watched all of our hard work come to a grinding halt, well, I'd had enough for the day and actually went for a walk to cool off.
I hope my investments here pay off, we all do. It appears that we have 449 delegates (it doesn't matter if they're paid yet or not). How many hundreds of others here are not running for delegate? I mean, that's hundreds and hundreds of people who have skills to contribute, so wtf? Ok, enough rant, I'll stop right there. I know you guys get my point.
Please help me re-light the fires around here, please. ???
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What ever happened to Baozou, I thought he was PR manager?
the Core Developers would like to appoint DACx, a cornerstone business of the Bitshares ecosystem founded by Mr. James Gong (aka. Baozou) that could bring us to a place where we could only have dreamed of, as the official spokesman (the “Spokesman”) on behalf of the Core Developers to take over the PR initiative. Bytemaster and the other Core Developers will accordingly be cooperating with this PR initiative moving forward and defer to the Spokesman in any PR matters.
https://github.com/bytemaster/bytemaster.github.io/commit/0a75b983a8d7eb0c54fb8ffbb757b603a7022ae4
Or maybe it was a joke?
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What ever happened to Baozou, I thought he was PR manager?
the Core Developers would like to appoint DACx, a cornerstone business of the Bitshares ecosystem founded by Mr. James Gong (aka. Baozou) that could bring us to a place where we could only have dreamed of, as the official spokesman (the “Spokesman”) on behalf of the Core Developers to take over the PR initiative. Bytemaster and the other Core Developers will accordingly be cooperating with this PR initiative moving forward and defer to the Spokesman in any PR matters.
https://github.com/bytemaster/bytemaster.github.io/commit/0a75b983a8d7eb0c54fb8ffbb757b603a7022ae4
Or maybe it was a joke?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16350.0.html is a good start for questions :D
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https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16350.0.html is a good start for questions :D
I asked in Fuzzy's Q thread, but took care to drop your name into it :)
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16180.0.html
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We're all PR Agents.
We're all customer service reps.
We all have at least 1 skill that can benefit BitShares.
There are currently 449 delegates (paid or not) that are required to provide a service to BitShares.
http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates
There are hundreds and hundreds of other people in this community that can bring something to BitShares.
I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just asking the rhetorical question, what will you do for BitShares today? And tomorrow? Sunday? How about Tuesday?
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We're all PR Agents.
We're all customer service reps.
We all have at least 1 skill that can benefit BitShares.
There are currently 449 delegates (paid or not) that are required to provide a service to BitShares.
http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates
There are hundreds and hundreds of other people in this community that can bring something to BitShares.
I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just asking the rhetorical question, what will you do for BitShares today? And tomorrow? Sunday? How about Tuesday?
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/59747081.jpg)
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I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm just asking the rhetorical question, what will you do for BitShares today? And tomorrow? Sunday? How about Tuesday?
Since we're all HR too - be careful not to burn out. I'd suggest you take a day or two off.
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I have to admit that I totally agree with Ken...
Of course that is not the main objective of BitShares right now...
BitShares will give an answer to many many people as for crypto... But if no one knows that it will, it won't serve its purpose.
I mean like any products, "need" has to be created to fulfill it, coding is a thing, marketing another... But they have to work together... The image we give is important, we need to show that we are all moving together forward...
Tell everyone "hey guys... here we come..." and that is a community effort!!!!
And not saying " oh geez it's going down again"... It is going down because some of us let it go down ;) Just a little action by everyone of us will make a big difference in the end !
Cheers
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Thank you Data, fav and mangou007 - It's because of people like you that BitShares succeeds, I can't thank you guys enough for all of your support.
Oh and Data, thanx for the laugh, I needed that too :)
Now stop humping the giant laser and get back to it! ;)
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someone should change the description on this page
http://cryptocoin.cc/table.php?cryptocoin=bitshares
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I have to admit that I totally agree with Ken...
Of course that is not the main objective of BitShares right now...
BitShares will give an answer to many many people as for crypto... But if no one knows that it will, it won't serve its purpose.
I mean like any products, "need" has to be created to fulfill it, coding is a thing, marketing another... But they have to work together... The image we give is important, we need to show that we are all moving together forward...
Tell everyone "hey guys... here we come..." and that is a community effort!!!!
And not saying " oh geez it's going down again"... It is going down because some of us let it go down ;) Just a little action by everyone of us will make a big difference in the end !
Cheers
+5% +5%
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I shouldn't have to pay a website designer too. Or an seo/sep person.
Even if my ideas were loved by the community here and the Polls I post result in a unanimous decision, it's still up to one or two guys in virginia to make the decisions, right?
The shareholders here have NO voting power and they have no say in what gets coded in, that's a fact.
I'm trying to fix things guys, but ultimately, we are all powerless to their control. That is not good.
When will things change?