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Title: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: triox on April 06, 2015, 01:30:17 pm
Guys, among all the bitching and moaning on this forum, I just wanted to share my Bitshares experience lately.

The Bitshares experience is so quick and easy that I find myself NOT using Bitcoin anymore. For example, I used to buy every Humble Bundle for Bitcoin and thought that it was easy and fast, but lately having to launch and sync that monstrosity (Bitcoin Core client) made me not want to do that. I don't trust any other wallets and syncing alone takes several hours.

Then suddenly I realized that I can spend BitUSD using Shapeshift (https://shapeshift.io/#)! It took like two minutes and I spent like 10.30 BitUSD for a $10 game.

Then today I wanted to buy some factoids (factom presale tokens). I registered on koinify and instead of launching and shuffling my BTC around (witch would again take half a day) I decided to try Metaexchange (https://metaexchange.info/markets/BTC/bitUSD). To my surprise it was even faster and easier than shapeshift! I made the transfer in the Bitshares client and BOOM the koinify page immediately says 'Congratulations, you've got yourself some factoids'.

Shuffling my assets around on the internal exchange has been a blast too. If BitBTC had any liquidity I'd happily convert most of my BTC to it.

I also just reactivated my Neteller account and the Net+ mastercard and loaded it with some BitUSD via shapeshift lens and after 7 days I will be able to take it out from any ATM for free! (not available in the US though). BitUSD really is like having an untouchable bank account in the cloud without having to worry about all the price nonsense. It's secure and accessible and you can spend it wherever Bitcoin is accepted. Pro poker players, dark market vendors, entrepreneurs in unfavorable jurisdictions, investors in unjust tax jurisdictions... Thinking how many people are DESPERATE for this product just makes my head explode.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: fav on April 06, 2015, 01:34:19 pm
you could use our internal exchange metaechange.info too - just takes 1 extra step. :)

great post!  +5%
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: lastagile on April 06, 2015, 01:45:35 pm
U can post this to bitcointalk. :) :) +5% +5%
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: CLains on April 06, 2015, 01:47:44 pm
This is so true, soon as everyone has a client they enjoy, we can all convert our BTC to bitBTC and our fiat savings to bitFiat which would raise the cap by several million alone. In fact, soon as we got multiple wallets and multi-sig I think we will all feel more secure in doing just this - at least I would.

Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: yellowecho on April 06, 2015, 02:22:57 pm
Thanks for sharing your experiences!  I never use BTC or similar addresses anymore if I don't need to... using actual names like in TITAN is so much better in every way.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: cass on April 06, 2015, 02:28:20 pm
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 

 +5%
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: vlight on April 06, 2015, 02:40:17 pm
IKR, it's amazing, but it doubles the pain to see the price drop even though the product is here and it's awesome.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: bytemaster on April 06, 2015, 02:44:27 pm
Awesome feedback!   It is nice to have some perspective from time to time!
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: testz on April 06, 2015, 02:51:13 pm
Thanks for sharing your experiences!

 +5%
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: rgcrypto on April 06, 2015, 04:59:30 pm
I find it so funny when people bitch and moan about BitShares.

We are building the infrastructure for the financial system of tomorrow for god sake and it's already faster and easier to use than bitcoin!
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: btswildpig on April 06, 2015, 05:07:13 pm
Translating to Chinese as we speak .

By the way , when you pay BitUSD to your prepaid card through Shapeshift , is it being converted into BTC ?
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: mdj on April 06, 2015, 05:10:09 pm
Awesome post and couldn't agree more  +5%.

I'm completely hooked using the internal exchange now, yes it's a little clunky but the fact that I can execute trades and have them confirmed in 10seconds is amazing. Also just look at some of the work being done by Cass on the UI! http://i.imgur.com/eC0UVnx.png
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: rgcrypto on April 06, 2015, 05:13:45 pm
Awesome post and couldn't agree more  +5%.

I'm completely hooked using the internal exchange now, yes it's a little clunky but the fact that I can execute trades and have them confirmed in 10seconds is amazing. Also just look at some of the work being done by Cass on the UI! http://i.imgur.com/eC0UVnx.png

if cass was a women, I would marry him ;-)

Can I download this theme now?
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: yellowecho on April 06, 2015, 05:25:40 pm
Awesome post and couldn't agree more  +5%.

I'm completely hooked using the internal exchange now, yes it's a little clunky but the fact that I can execute trades and have them confirmed in 10seconds is amazing. Also just look at some of the work being done by Cass on the UI! http://i.imgur.com/eC0UVnx.png

if cass was a women, I would marry him ;-)

Can I download this theme now?

Not it's just a mock-up for a future 'dark theme' option.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: rgcrypto on April 06, 2015, 06:12:44 pm
I vote to keep cass in the team forever :)
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: fuzzy on April 06, 2015, 06:13:20 pm
Awesome post and couldn't agree more  +5%.

I'm completely hooked using the internal exchange now, yes it's a little clunky but the fact that I can execute trades and have them confirmed in 10seconds is amazing. Also just look at some of the work being done by Cass on the UI! http://i.imgur.com/eC0UVnx.png

if cass was a women, I would marry him ;-)

Can I download this theme now?

Not it's just a mock-up for a future 'dark theme' option.

Such a badass...
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: triox on April 06, 2015, 06:32:11 pm
Translating to Chinese as we speak .

By the way , when you pay BitUSD to your prepaid card through Shapeshift , is it being converted into BTC ?

My Neteller account is denominated in EUR and Neteller recently added Bitcoin integration through BitPay. I chose to top up the account with 50 EUR and the BitPay checkout page showed up with a request for 0.213399 BTC. I have a shapeshift lens plugin in my browser (going directly to shapeshift.io or metaexchange works too) and it said to send 56.7246 BitUSD which is indeed roughly equivalent to 50 EUR. Now if the EUR withdrawal from ATM is actually free then it's really a fantastically cheap way of cashing out crypto.
I used to move a lot of small sums between currencies back in my poker playing days and there always was a 2% cut in every step between a poker room and the ATM or the bank account. Cryptocurrencies plus all the on/off ramps are game changers in that regard. Now if only bitAssets had better liquidity, the Bitshares ecosystem would be best suited to capitalize on that.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: hadrian on April 07, 2015, 09:03:53 pm
Once you're used to the transaction speed in BitShares it's really scary to go back to using other cryptos!
I was moving a fairly large value in another system (naming no names) and it was stressful - I was waiting for transaction confirmation and it just felt like something had fucked up.

Adopting BitShares is a bit like moving from standard definition T.V. to high definition - "Oh, this is good!"
Then when you're accustomed to H.D., if you ever use S.D. again you think, "Oh my word! What is this shit!?"
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: vlight on April 07, 2015, 11:27:34 pm
Once you're used to the transaction speed in BitShares it's really scary to go back to using other cryptos!
I was moving a fairly large value in another system (naming no names) and it was stressful - I was waiting for transaction confirmation and it just felt like something had fucked up.

Adopting BitShares is a bit like moving from standard definition T.V. to high definition - "Oh, this is good!"
Then when you're accustomed to H.D., if you ever use S.D. again you think, "Oh my word! What is this shit!?"

 +5%
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: bytemaster on April 08, 2015, 05:55:30 am
Once you're used to the transaction speed in BitShares it's really scary to go back to using other cryptos!
I was moving a fairly large value in another system (naming no names) and it was stressful - I was waiting for transaction confirmation and it just felt like something had fucked up.

Adopting BitShares is a bit like moving from standard definition T.V. to high definition - "Oh, this is good!"
Then when you're accustomed to H.D., if you ever use S.D. again you think, "Oh my word! What is this shit!?"

I know the feeling!  The other crypto's user experience sucks every time I need to move BTC I wonder why we are not getting more adoption!   We know what the experience needs to be and it is just a matter of getting the wallet to be light and lower resource.   
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: btswildpig on April 08, 2015, 06:09:20 am
Once you're used to the transaction speed in BitShares it's really scary to go back to using other cryptos!
I was moving a fairly large value in another system (naming no names) and it was stressful - I was waiting for transaction confirmation and it just felt like something had fucked up.

Adopting BitShares is a bit like moving from standard definition T.V. to high definition - "Oh, this is good!"
Then when you're accustomed to H.D., if you ever use S.D. again you think, "Oh my word! What is this shit!?"

I know the feeling!  The other crypto's user experience sucks every time I need to move BTC I wonder why we are not getting more adoption!   We know what the experience needs to be and it is just a matter of getting the wallet to be light and lower resource.   

also there are a lot of Windows XP users in the real world ...the current  BTS wallet bans those people from using it properly .......

I saw people with substantial amount of wealth using Windows XP , 2GB ram computer , he simply don't want to keep up with the trend of upgrading .
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: donkeypong on April 08, 2015, 06:31:10 am
This is so true, soon as everyone has a client they enjoy, we can all convert our BTC to bitBTC and our fiat savings to bitFiat which would raise the cap by several million alone. In fact, soon as we got multiple wallets and multi-sig I think we will all feel more secure in doing just this - at least I would.

I love the original posting in this thread. Right on. I also want to highlight CLains' statement above. Once everyone is comfortable with the client, the importance of this bitBTC holding cannot be ignored.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: triox on April 08, 2015, 07:49:23 am
This is so true, soon as everyone has a client they enjoy, we can all convert our BTC to bitBTC and our fiat savings to bitFiat which would raise the cap by several million alone. In fact, soon as we got multiple wallets and multi-sig I think we will all feel more secure in doing just this - at least I would.

I love the original posting in this thread. Right on. I also want to highlight CLains' statement above. Once everyone is comfortable with the client, the importance of this bitBTC holding cannot be ignored.

The client is not the problem here, liquidity is.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: yellowecho on April 08, 2015, 02:35:24 pm
I saw people with substantial amount of wealth using Windows XP , 2GB ram computer , he simply don't want to keep up with the trend of upgrading .

These types of people are my clients.  Dumbasses using InternetExplorer8 and refuse to upgrade and complain when their tech doesn't work.  The truth is they have to upgrade eventually or the internet just won't work well for them.  HTML5 is a standard now and their computers aren't even capable of supporting that.

With BitShares they'll have to rely on using the web wallet and possibly the lightweight client but the standard client will probably never work with 2GB RAM.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: yellowecho on April 08, 2015, 02:37:13 pm
The client is not the problem here, liquidity is.

Well if a lot of users can't trade using the client (for whatever reason) then their funds are locked and it hurts liquidity.  So it could be both.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: fav on April 08, 2015, 02:39:47 pm
The client is not the problem here, liquidity is.

Well if a lot of users can't trade using the client (for whatever reason) then their funds are locked and it hurts liquidity.  So it could be both.

never had any problems with the client except for some syncing problems - which you can easily fix by manually adding some nodes.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: yellowecho on April 08, 2015, 02:49:16 pm
never had any problems with the client except for some syncing problems - which you can easily fix by manually adding some nodes.

I rarely have issues either (besides the recent 0.8.0a update) but after reading other threads there seems to be a lot of people with old machines that can't handle the client.. getting the webwallet and liteclient in a good place with functioning markets would increase liquidity from these folks.
Title: Re: The Bitshares ecosystem provides a magical user experience
Post by: triox on April 21, 2015, 08:09:52 pm
Just a quick update: at the request of mastercard, Net+ cards don't work with money transferred into neteller with bitcoin. Apparently "my" EUR on neteller account is different than some other EUR based on their origin. Those centralized institutions are destroying the fungibility of money.