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Title: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 14, 2015, 02:34:22 pm
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2agw13n.jpg)

Click Each Link Below to Instantly Cast your Vote!
Works via Your BitShares Client
--> OR <--
Copy Paste Into CLI
Copy Paste Into Your Delegate Slate:

approve minebts1.bunkermining-com (http://bts:minebts1.bunkermining-com/approve)
approve minebts2.bunkermining-com (http://bts:minebts2.bunkermining-com/approve)
approve minebts3.bunkermining-com (http://bts:minebts3.bunkermining-com/approve)
approve minebts4.bunkermining-com (http://bts:minebts4.bunkermining-com/approve)
approve minebts5.bunkermining-com (http://bts:minebts5.bunkermining-com/approve)
approve minebts6.bunkermining-com (http://bts:minebts6.bunkermining-com/approve)

Why are we doing this?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16238.0.html

This is all happening from community support already wanting to see this project grow.

It has proven itself as the best new user creator of ALL other projects in BitShares!


These are 100% Delegates that are being operated from and protected by the Data Security Node Bunker!

With further development we can:



We realize there are changes coming down in how DPOS 1.0 works, and by voting in these 6 delegates 100%, including the 1 we already have (approve minebitshares-reloaded (http://bts:minebitshares-reloaded/approve)) for a total of 7, we will be making BitShares HISTORY!

No other delegate project Feeds Directly Back into BitShares the way BunkerMining does!


Vote for our delegates and watch the value of your BitShares Grow like you Never Imagined!

Thanks to everyone for your support!


Translation for the Chinese (thanks to 麥可貓):

点击下方的每个连接来立即投出你的选票!
这个方法需要使用到你的比特股客户端
--> 或者 <--
复制以下文字到命令端
复制贴上并回车, 以加入你的受托人投票组合:


approve minebts1.bunkermining-com (http://approve minebts1.bunkermining-com)
approve minebts2.bunkermining-com (http://approve minebts2.bunkermining-com)
approve minebts3.bunkermining-com (http://approve minebts3.bunkermining-com)
approve minebts4.bunkermining-com (http://approve minebts4.bunkermining-com)
approve minebts5.bunkermining-com (http://approve minebts5.bunkermining-com)
approve minebts6.bunkermining-com (http://approve minebts6.bunkermining-com)

我们为什么这么做?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16238.0.html
 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16238.0.html)
(译注: DataSecurityNode现在是MineBitShares (挖矿然后支付给你bitUSD)的实际经营者)


这一切都是来自社区的支持, 并已经等不及要让这个计划成长

MineBitShares已经被证明是最能够吸引新用户加入比特股的方式!

上述的100%受托人都是运营在Data Security Node Bunker (防核爆地堡)之内!

我们计划进一步开发以下功能:


我们明白DPOS1.0即将有些改变, 而透过投票给这6个受托人, 以及一个我们已经当选的(approve minebitshares-reloaded (http://approve minebitshares-reloaded)), 我们将一起缔造历史!

没有其他计划能够像BunkerMining一样提供给比特股如此直接的回馈!

请投票给我们的受托人, 并拭目以待, 看比特股如何地成长!

感谢每个人的支持!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: iHashFury on May 14, 2015, 02:43:37 pm
Lets get this monster going so it can start feeding itself!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on May 14, 2015, 03:16:45 pm
Harharhar!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: xeroc on May 14, 2015, 06:00:19 pm
voted and added you to my slate
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 14, 2015, 10:08:33 pm
Thanks to everyone for your votes so far!!

In less than 12 hours we are currently ranking at 180 according to bitsharesblocks right now.. give or take 6 positions of course :D

Keep the votes coming.. only a few hundred million BTS to go! :)

If anybody has questions about this please feel free to ask!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: emailtooaj on May 15, 2015, 12:08:55 am
Voted!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 15, 2015, 02:21:19 am
Voted!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Awesome!

Thanks AJ!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 16, 2015, 12:43:18 pm
We are in the 170s!

We only got 70+ more to go!

Keep up on the votes to grow the bitshares market through mining!

(http://i61.tinypic.com/y33vn.png)
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: proctologic on May 16, 2015, 07:12:18 pm
We are in the 170s!

We only got 70+ more to go!

Keep up on the votes to grow the bitshares market through mining!

(http://i61.tinypic.com/y33vn.png)

Voted  :)  :D  ;D  +5%
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Pheonike on May 16, 2015, 08:47:33 pm
Voted!!!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 16, 2015, 10:10:05 pm
We are in the 170s!

We only got 70+ more to go!

Keep up on the votes to grow the bitshares market through mining!

(http://i61.tinypic.com/y33vn.png)

Voted  :)  :D  ;D  +5%

Awesome thanks!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 16, 2015, 10:26:22 pm
Voted!!!

Thanks Pheonike.. your support and feedback are always great!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 17, 2015, 06:03:56 pm
(http://i60.tinypic.com/6sxsvb.png)

Up 5 spots in the last 24hrs!

Now rank at #167!

Some of you know I have been working hard to find new and innovative ways to bring profitability to this project and to BitShares.

Today I had a breakthrough and will solidity the details with RGCrypto this week.

We only have 67 to go... If you like increasing the value of BitShares and making more money mining then VOTE FOR OUR DELEGATES!


Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: onceuponatime on May 17, 2015, 06:09:41 pm
This project has high potential and is very exciting for BitShares.

Anxiously awaiting your update.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 18, 2015, 09:30:29 pm
This project has high potential and is very exciting for BitShares.

Anxiously awaiting your update.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/661/pMfvxI.png)

YOU GOT IT!

UP 12 positions in the last 24 hours!

Now skyrocketing into 155.

We are working out the details at present but we soon will be announcing a new developer member to the team.

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: karnal on May 18, 2015, 10:49:20 pm
Did I miss anything, why no BTC LTC or DASH?

Top coin being mined is potcoin.. yeah.

Please elaborate on this, vote pending.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 18, 2015, 11:12:34 pm
Did I miss anything, why no BTC LTC or DASH?

Top coin being mined is potcoin.. yeah.

Please elaborate on this, vote pending.


Good questions!

LTC is planned to be added along with others. We are going to have someone doing regular research on coins and keeping their ear to new ones coming so that we can position ourselves early on those also.

BTC runs on SHA256 and we haven't moved to that yet. We currently only support Script and X11.

It is in our roadmap though and among our initial updates to be done to increase profitability and attract a larger miner market.

Adding new coins has been held off at present to keep the task of migrating to a newer platform less consuming.

Currently adding SHA256 support along with other coins is 3rd on the list of things to get done moving forward.

Besides targeting specific coins we are also going to be adding pools that provide updated profitability as well. If they are the most profitable at the time, why not? Turn them into BitShares!

Hope that helps answer your questions.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Tuck Fheman on May 19, 2015, 12:56:27 am
We are going to have someone doing regular research on coins and keeping their ear to new ones coming so that we can position ourselves early on those also.

coinwarz.com (http://coinwarz.com)

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Krills on May 19, 2015, 01:07:05 am
Voted all your 6 delegates.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 19, 2015, 01:24:26 am
We are going to have someone doing regular research on coins and keeping their ear to new ones coming so that we can position ourselves early on those also.

coinwarz.com (http://coinwarz.com)

I know about coinwarz.. used it a lot in the past.

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 19, 2015, 01:24:51 am
Voted all your 6 delegates.

Awesome thanks!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 19, 2015, 05:40:57 am
(http://i.imgur.com/3ZA2OLE.png)

All Delegates are Updated and ready for the fork today!

Just look at that  SOLID GREEN across the board.

Wouldn't you rather see that.. instead of red blocks everywhere?

A VOTE for BUNKERMINING means a GREENER BitSharesBlocks Delegates area!


VOTE TODAY!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: karnal on May 19, 2015, 07:27:11 am
DataSecurityNode, I like this idea and wish you great success, however the lack of BTC/LTC/DASH seems like an oversight to me.

In my understanding it is exactly the miners of said coins who would benefit the most from storing their earnings in BitUSD. Frankly, who cares about potcoin?


For that reason alone I am not voting right now, but will follow any developments closely. Good luck with your project!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 19, 2015, 03:45:00 pm
DataSecurityNode, I like this idea and wish you great success, however the lack of BTC/LTC/DASH seems like an oversight to me.

In my understanding it is exactly the miners of said coins who would benefit the most from storing their earnings in BitUSD. Frankly, who cares about potcoin?


For that reason alone I am not voting right now, but will follow any developments closely. Good luck with your project!

It's not an oversight.. it's just from a technical perspective not feasible the way the pool operates now.

We payout daily based on shares mined. With the amount of hashing power we have we would not be getting LTC daily.. this makes it impossible for our current system to properly reward the miner who mined it.

We have a similar situation with BTC where unless we have enough hash, we cannot payout daily.

Understand that voting for the delegates means being able to bring these things to the pool.

Not voting means leaving things as is. So by note voting for our delegate bid, you are effectively voting for things to stay the same.. which I don't think is what your end goal is. I think you want to see those improvements, and that is the purpose of all this.

Hope that helps clarify.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: karnal on May 19, 2015, 06:23:03 pm
I did think about that some time after posting but eventually forgot and didn't come back to clarify. I'm glad you brought it up.


Having said that, do you have a timeline for the beginning stages of BTC/LTC/DASH implementation?

And how do you plan to convert the miners to use your system? Here you are preaching to the choir of course (I do believe your idea has merit).


Finally, regarding approving all your delegates, I was under the impression (do correct if I'm wrong) that voting for more than one delegate from the same entity is to be frowned upon, as it puts too much power in the hands of a single entity/person/organization ?

In other words, why displace 5ish other delegates with yours ? And do you believe this to be fair? (neutral/probing question)


Looking forward to evaluate your response.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Pheonike on May 19, 2015, 06:43:24 pm

If a delegate is providing value and not doing any harm then it's a valid delegate. It's up to the voter to determine how valuable the individual delegates are relative to all delegates as a whole.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 20, 2015, 01:15:50 am
I did think about that some time after posting but eventually forgot and didn't come back to clarify. I'm glad you brought it up.


Having said that, do you have a timeline for the beginning stages of BTC/LTC/DASH implementation?

And how do you plan to convert the miners to use your system? Here you are preaching to the choir of course (I do believe your idea has merit).


Finally, regarding approving all your delegates, I was under the impression (do correct if I'm wrong) that voting for more than one delegate from the same entity is to be frowned upon, as it puts too much power in the hands of a single entity/person/organization ?

In other words, why displace 5ish other delegates with yours ? And do you believe this to be fair? (neutral/probing question)


Looking forward to evaluate your response.

1. Timeline depends on when the delegates get in of course.. but dev time is looking at roughly about 3-4 weeks following. It is far more important that we first get the core platform updated and our payout system completely automated before we start supporting sha256. Otherwise we will just end up with a lot of unhappy/frustrated miners.

2. Strategy is simple.. make our mining pool the most profitable pool out there. That has been the mantra since day one. We are using delegate funds in part to put towards the pool to increase profitability until we are able to scale to where our profitability increases against other pools. We have zero network fees and a +5% bonus as the present offering. Consistent and reliable daily payouts, prettier analytics, and best of all, transparency are all the elements we can compete on. Besides mining other coins, we are also going to be mining other pools as well. So in the end, miners that point to our pool are assured of the best and most profitable mining. Of course this will all be marketed everywhere like crazy and will attempt to forge partnerships with rig rental and cloud mining operators.

3. Pheonike already gave some input into this. If you look at the current 101 there is at least one operator that is visible that has 4 positions. Many of the other 3% positions are questionable unknowns. There are many others that actually have 2-3. With these delegates, you know who we are. We would have a footprint, but nothing that could cause any issues.

I am sure you have followed the changes coming up in DPOS 2.0. Our bid for all these delegates is really to get things started now with the system we got. Later when the new system comes into effect we are going to switch it to a worker proposal. You can see the thread where this all started and the many contributors who put in their money to see this happen now: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16238.0.html

The only reason we have this many is because of the market cap situation, and the number were determined by community members deciding how much they wanted to see this project supported and how quickly it could be built up.

And to top this all off.. the benefit of having at least 7% of delegates located and operated by a nuclear bunker data center I think offers a certain degree of added resilience to the network. If/when everything goes to hell, your BitShares will still be safe and sound in a nuclear bunker.

Is it fair? You can look at the 101 and determine for yourself if you think there are 6 delegates that are going to be displaced that you think are providing more value to BitShares than this project can.. or even does at present.. then I think that is the answer to your question. Take note of the post above about our green bars... then go to http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates and see how many have not updated for the latest fork. At the time of posting this 20 out of the 101 have not kept updated. Even more are not contributing to feed data. Vote for our delegates is a vote for removing/reducing that.

I say all this though in light of DPOS 2.0 just around the corner by my estimation in 2-3 months. When all that comes around I believe ours and all other multiple delegate positions are going to disappear and get wrapped up into one each if at all detaching witness worker and delegate roles.

Do you think its fair?
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 20, 2015, 03:02:09 pm
(http://i58.tinypic.com/zjgynn.png)

Yeehaw.. up 11 positions from our last update!

We now have an easy to share URL for you to share with everyone..tell them to go to http://vote.bunkermining.com and they will be sent to this thread instantly.

If you want more users for BitShares, and increased BTS value, VOTE!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: karnal on May 20, 2015, 03:52:05 pm
Voted. Will keep an eye out for progress concerning sha256 &effective marketing of this. Go wild!!

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 20, 2015, 04:14:02 pm
Voted. Will keep an eye out for progress concerning sha256 &effective marketing of this. Go wild!!

Awesome thanks!

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 21, 2015, 05:43:25 am
Just a small update and a special thanks to Xeldal (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=448) of the delegate fund.bitsharesbreakout who pledged to provide 10% of their delegate pay to this project! We received their first funds today!

Thanks so much for your support.

This brings our total support at present to the following:

minebitshares-reloaded (http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/info?name=minebitshares-reloaded) 100%
delegate.rgycrpto (http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/info?name=delegate.rgcrypto) 100%
fuzz.beyondbitcoin (http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/info?name=fuzzy.beyondbitcoin) 12%
fund.bitsharesbreakout (http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/info?name=fund.bitsharesbreakout) 10%


Voting for these delegates also means supporting this project too! So remember that next time you are casting your votes!

We STILL need these new delegates to get voted in so we can get development moving along and bring bonuses up!

VOTE TODAY!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 21, 2015, 01:33:05 pm
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2evt5k8.png)

Up 6 positions over yesterday.

Today is different though. Today is MY BIRTHDAY!

You know what that means... means I get PRESENTS!

I know you want to send me A MILLION BTS... but I will tell you what I REALLY want for my birthday.

I WANT THESE DELEGATES VOTED IN!!

I call on ALL the powers that be of BitShares to make this HAPPEN!

Then I can truly call this a HAPPY Birthday! :)

Just think about it though.. this is probably the ONLY birthday present you ever gave in your life that didn't cost you anything.. and ends up giving right back to you!!! Talk about AWESOME!

Give the gift of growing BitShares! VOTE FOR OUR DELEGATES TODAY!





Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: proctologic on May 21, 2015, 02:28:39 pm
Voted. Will keep an eye out for progress concerning sha256 &effective marketing of this. Go wild!!

Diff is way to high on those coins at this hashrate on the pool
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 22, 2015, 04:39:14 pm
We were on Hangout with Fuzzy.beyondbitcoin today to talk about the BunkerMining project!

It was asked about where are plans and strategy is headed, and I said in the show I would post it in our thread here:: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RmKlLjuLehLUC88w5Y82B9CB_nh3dkkOEvjsYfejckc/edit?usp=sharing

There has been some huge movement in the market in the last day! Nonetheless we have moved UP 3 spots at the time I posted this:


(http://i57.tinypic.com/wan30x.png)

We need everyones support! VOTE TODAY!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: mangou007 on May 23, 2015, 04:43:59 pm
You got mine  :D BUT you have to keep up the good work :P  +5%
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: karnal on May 23, 2015, 07:33:26 pm
You got mine  :D

pun intended?  :D
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 24, 2015, 04:18:54 am
You got mine  :D BUT you have to keep up the good work :P  +5%

Merci!

(http://i62.tinypic.com/30rsiep.png)

We are up 2 positions today!

If any of you have any friends that have say 40-50million BTS each.. get them to vote!

You think this recent market cap rise is something?

A real market cap rise is only 6 votes away!

Our Delegate bid will mean more volume, more transactions, more users, and yes, higher market capitalization!

All you got to do is VOTE!

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: mirrax on May 24, 2015, 02:40:29 pm
Hi,

This looks interesting.
However I understand a shit what its all about.
You can mine BTS?

Sorry, noob here...
Can somebody please explain to me in 5 sentences what is this project about?
Thanks a lot
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: xeroc on May 24, 2015, 05:03:02 pm
Hi,

This looks interesting.
However I understand a shit what its all about.
You can mine BTS?

Sorry, noob here...
Can somebody please explain to me in 5 sentences what is this project about?
Thanks a lot

- You cannot mine bitshares directly
- You can mine alt coins at this pool which are sold for BitShares/bitUSD on the market
- Mining @ minebitshares.com is subsidized by the blockchain in form of delegate pay being ridirected to topup the mining payouts ..
- with more delegates being supported by the shareholders .. the miners will see a huge incentive to mine @ bitshares
- the dilution caused by this should be easily absorbed by the incoming users .. and if not .. shareholders are free to vote these delegates out again ..
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: rgcrypto on May 24, 2015, 09:13:22 pm
We are almost there! Let's get them voted in!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 04:25:23 am
(http://i62.tinypic.com/263fslc.png)

Up 3 positions today!

We updated our proposal to include a Chinese translation as well!

Fun fact, with only 7% market penetration of our operation, we could DOUBLE the volume of BitShares!!

We need these Delegates voted so we can bring that to BitShares though!

Vote for a higher value BTS today!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 04:32:32 am
Hi,

This looks interesting.
However I understand a shit what its all about.
You can mine BTS?

Sorry, noob here...
Can somebody please explain to me in 5 sentences what is this project about?
Thanks a lot

- You cannot mine bitshares directly
- You can mine alt coins at this pool which are sold for BitShares/bitUSD on the market
- Mining @ minebitshares.com is subsidized by the blockchain in form of delegate pay being ridirected to topup the mining payouts ..
- with more delegates being supported by the shareholders .. the miners will see a huge incentive to mine @ bitshares
- the dilution caused by this should be easily absorbed by the incoming users .. and if not .. shareholders are free to vote these delegates out again ..

Well said Xeroc! .. an in 5 sentences as requested!

Xeroc answered your question well. The project takes all altcoins and BTC and funnels it into BitShares. This increases usership, transactions, volume, and thus market cap.

With the power of bitAssets we have a disruptive technology opportunity. We just need to move to the next level with what we have already built.

Operating as a zero fees network with bonuses doesn't leave much for us to advance though with the current market cap. Thus our bid for additional delegates.

A vote for these delegates means a vote for increasing the value of BTS put simply.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: mirrax on May 25, 2015, 07:38:30 am
Hi,

This looks interesting.
However I understand a shit what its all about.
You can mine BTS?

Sorry, noob here...
Can somebody please explain to me in 5 sentences what is this project about?
Thanks a lot

- You cannot mine bitshares directly
- You can mine alt coins at this pool which are sold for BitShares/bitUSD on the market
- Mining @ minebitshares.com is subsidized by the blockchain in form of delegate pay being ridirected to topup the mining payouts ..
- with more delegates being supported by the shareholders .. the miners will see a huge incentive to mine @ bitshares
- the dilution caused by this should be easily absorbed by the incoming users .. and if not .. shareholders are free to vote these delegates out again ..

Well said Xeroc! .. an in 5 sentences as requested!

Xeroc answered your question well. The project takes all altcoins and BTC and funnels it into BitShares. This increases usership, transactions, volume, and thus market cap.

With the power of bitAssets we have a disruptive technology opportunity. We just need to move to the next level with what we have already built.

Operating as a zero fees network with bonuses doesn't leave much for us to advance though with the current market cap. Thus our bid for additional delegates.

A vote for these delegates means a vote for increasing the value of BTS put simply.

Indeed.
Thank you for answers.
So it is a multipool selling all for BTS. Clear now.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 12:58:47 pm
Indeed.
Thank you for answers.
So it is a multipool selling all for BTS. Clear now.

In it's initial phases, yes pretty much. Gee for a self proclaimed noob you sound like you got the lingo down pat. :)

However, further into development we are taking a whole new approach to mining. I have had private discussions with a  few people about it and they can't wait. I told them they will have to though until we can get those delegates elected to allow us to take it further. The innovation will solve complexities in mining increase market support, and increase profitability for miners/buyers significantly.

I guess it should be mentioned, we are also going to be enabling miners to mine for REAL gold and silver as well. Which is another innovation.

Anyways.. this is all just wasted bytes of forum data UNLESS YOU VOTE!
:)
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on May 25, 2015, 01:49:38 pm
Are you the most profitable mining pool at the moment? I need to know that because I advertise your pool, thx
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 02:07:50 pm
Are you the most profitable mining pool at the moment? I need to know that because I advertise your pool, thx

I wish I could definitively say ABSOLUTELY to that.. but at our current stage I cannot.. here are some points why:

- When the pool got subsidizd by Bytemaster to the tune of $50 bitUSD per day to go towards bonuses at our current level, that made us hands down most profitable. In mining, the pool generates more profit the larger it is.

- Subsidization ended and the delegates were suppose to help with the bonuses to maintain that profitability. Market cap fell through and the amount we had available to work with fell from $50 a day, down to $20.

- With that there was zero available to bring any further development to the pool.. and it NEEDS further dvelopment if it's going to be competitive.

- I made the executive decision with the scarce resources to continue to operate the pool at a person loss of several hundred dollars a month, take $10 towards the bonuses, and $10 towards further development.

- Community stepped up to bring in additional delegates so we can get the development done and maintain the bonuses so that we can make that claim a reality day to day.

Our MODEL CAN make us the most profitable... we just need these additional delegates to get us there.

So these days, even though our bonuses on the pool are always +5% as advertised (most of the time it's more like its far more), we don't always out perform ABSOLUTELY everyone else.

Hope this helps clarify.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on May 25, 2015, 02:11:46 pm
Yes helps. Will forward this to my listers.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 02:25:00 pm
(http://i61.tinypic.com/b6rn9i.png)

We HAVE MORE VOTES!!

MOVED UP 14 SPOTS IN the last 24 hours!!

Wow we are so close now!

Only 150 million away from the 101.

I know there are a handful of whales out there that can take us the rest of the way.. if you are reading this.. its time to get on the BunkerMining train and get on track to raising the value of BitShares!

If they won't get on board, then let the rest of us take it there! EVERY VOTE COUNTS!


Get on the BunkerMining Train Today and VOTE!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: CryptoN8 on May 25, 2015, 10:49:02 pm
You got all my votes. I've been mining with you for over a month now, it's been very smooth and great up time. Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 11:31:56 pm
You got all my votes. I've been mining with you for over a month now, it's been very smooth and great up time. Keep up the great work.

Awesome thanks so much!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 26, 2015, 06:34:43 pm
WE GOT ONE DELEGATE IN THE 101 TODAY!!!!

(http://i62.tinypic.com/zvew3n.png)

THE OTHER 5 ARE NOT FAR!

KEEP THE BUNKERMINING TRAINING ROLLING!! GET ON TRACK AND VOTE!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 28, 2015, 06:48:25 am
Today we had an awesome payout!

We still have our other 5 delegates sitting at #117 in the Delegate Standby list though!

We need to see them move up, and make sure the one we have in the 101 moves well beyond the 101!

Look at what has happened with the market cap since we got one BunkerMining Delegate in the 101!*

Image what happens with five!

VOTE TODAY!

*We are not claiming sole responsibility for the market cap increase. It just happened right at the same time we got elected.

Want to find out if it was a coincidence?!


VOTE THE OTHER 5 INTO THE 101 A FIND OUT!
(http://m.memegen.com/g5t590.jpg)
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: xeroc on May 28, 2015, 06:54:08 am
*We are not claiming sole responsibility for the market cap increase. It just happened right at the same time we got elected.
interestingly it also happend that the Nullstreet newsletter No.4 has been released earlier the week  :P
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: fav on May 28, 2015, 07:13:20 am
*We are not claiming sole responsibility for the market cap increase. It just happened right at the same time we got elected.
interestingly it also happend that the Nullstreet newsletter No.4 has been released earlier the week  :P

and I bought BTS for 1btc. sorry boys, it's my doing :P
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 28, 2015, 07:29:59 am
*We are not claiming sole responsibility for the market cap increase. It just happened right at the same time we got elected.
interestingly it also happend that the Nullstreet newsletter No.4 has been released earlier the week  :P

There is really only one way to settle this.. we need the other five elected to the 101!! :D

Only then will we REALLY know!!

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 03, 2015, 07:00:09 am
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2gvsjyt.png)

With only 14 more positions to go, we are SO CLOSE to getting minebts2 into the 101 as well!

This market cap isn't going to fix itself!

But you can help fix it with a VOTE for BunkerMining!

This project means GROWING BITSHARES!


Month of May stats showed us as the highest refer to BitShare AGAIN by a whopping 1000% over the next biggest referrers!


Don't You want MORE proven performance like that in BitShares?! VOTE FOR US!

Funny thing is, we are just hobbling on empty here, and with these additional delegates, we can increase numbers we deliver now by 100x within the next month following our much needed updates.

Our bid for these delegates are ONLY TEMPORARY! Once we are underway, BitShares grows, we can turn the operation profitable, and we can then release the six delegate positions. When DPOS 2.0 comes around, we would simply roll into one delegate, or have our worker contract cancelled.

Our bid is to NOT remain in the 101, but only to be there temporarily so we can build on the PROVEN RESULTS THAT GROWS BITSHARES NOW!

Vote Today for ALL SIX DELEGATES!

BE A PART OF DPOS 1.0 HISTORY!

Vote for our Delegates and watch your BTS VALUE GROW!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: tora62 on June 03, 2015, 07:17:12 am
voted for all six, good luck! =)
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 03, 2015, 02:15:21 pm
voted for all six, good luck! =)

Thank you!

Amazing how you can be part of DPOS history with just six clicks! :)

Who else is going to be a part of DPOS history? There are those that make history, those that watch it, and those that wonder what happened.

Make it!

Vote for BunkerMining today!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 04, 2015, 01:56:18 pm
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2rdcjg9.png)

MOVED UP 2 more spots overnight!!

Yesterday reviewed and confirmed an element of programming being done regarding feed data for our pool operations with a programmer who has worked extensively in gathering data and working in statistical databases.

This is an important element to ensuring our profitability ongoing.

With our limited resources the other updates are coming about slowly. That's why we need these votes NOW!

We need these delegates only temporarily until we get to profitability and continue to pump more volume, more transactions, and more new users into BitShares than has ever seen before!

Meanwhile we have other delegates providing additional much needed support.

Just yesterday we received 12% of the delegate pay from fuzzy.beyondbitcoin. Thank you so much for your support!

Fuzzy and crew understand the importance of what this brings to BitShares and crypto, and now is the time to get out your vote and be counted with the DPOS 1.0 history makers!

We continue to drive more new users to BitShares than any other project. Evidence > https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard

With these additional delegates.. we can EXPONENTIALLY accomplish more of this!


How much money are we asking from you? NOTHING!

Simply include minebts delegates at http://vote.bunkermining.com in your VOTE and VOTE TODAY to Grow BitShares!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 04, 2015, 02:24:21 pm
Today I will be in https://bitsharestalk.org/chat/ if anybody would like to ask questions about our delegate bid before they vote!

You can speak with me live and get your questions answered.

Looking forward to chatting with you!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 06, 2015, 06:36:09 pm
We need a different kind of vote today.

We are looking for feedback on what we are going to do next with updates to our payment system for the pool.

Sounds boring I know.. but once you read it you will be like:

(http://i59.tinypic.com/259egbo.jpg)


Go here to get your mind blown: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16732.0.html


OH.. and we actually SLIPPED DOWN to 114!! So if you haven't done it.. VOTE NOW!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 08, 2015, 07:25:52 am
We are back up to #113 now with minebts2.. but now we are seeing the rest of our delegates slipping further down.

minebts4 - 116
minebts3 - 117
minebts6 - 118
minebts5 - 119

Lets get these delegates elected so we can grow BitShares like never before!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: onceuponatime on June 16, 2015, 03:52:06 am
BTC Guild is Closing Down (approx. 3% of the Bitcoin network)


BTC Guild is Closing Down
BTC Guild will be shutting down its mining servers on June 30th, 2015 at 23:59 UTC. Users will still be able to log in and retrieve their history (CSV exports on the settings page) and request withdrawals until September 30, 2015..



Why is BTC Guild Shutting Down?
This is the second time BTC Guild has announced closure, but this time the decision will not be reversed. The reasons have not changed much since the original announcement.

As mining has become more centralized, BTC Guild has continuously shrunk in proportion to the network, now being less than 3% of the network hash rate. The costs of running the pool have not changed, and the amount of funds at risk in the event of a compromise is significantly higher than what the pool could ever recover from. When the pool was 20-30% of the network, the amount of funds at risk was slightly higher, but the ability for the pool to recover from that loss was present. At 3% of the network, the pool would not be able to recover from such a loss..

Additionally, the NYDFS BitLicense regulations have now become finalized, and the final regulations have enough gray area that BTC Guild is at risk. The fact that BTC Guild is not in New York does not matter, since it would be doing business with New York residents while they are physically in New York. This fact makes it possible for New York to attempt to claim jurisdiction to enforce regulations. Whether or not BTC Guild could win in defense of such an attempt is irrelevant, since the cost of defending the pool would be greater than any income the pool is expected to generate going forward.

Finally, I have been growing concerned for some time now about attempts to defraud pools. The pool's luck has been on a decline for over a year. The luck on a few other pools has also shown a negative trend. While it is not impossible that it's a coincidence, this is something I have been constantly made aware of and am helpless against. There is no way to know whether it's just bad luck, a small bug in older miners (BTC Guild probably has the highest percentage of first/second generation ASICs) resulting in a few % of block-solving shares to disappear, or a large pool trying to hurt the competition (many of the largest pools have large private mining operations now). It would only take a fraction (1 PH/s or less could do it) to cause significant harm to a competing pool, and that activity could be masked by proxies and multiple accounts to be impossible to catch.



PPLNS Blocks and Final Withdrawals
Users will be able to keep mining up until the servers turn off at end of day June 30th. Since PPLNS is a backwards paying system, the very last shares submitted are unlikely to receive any blocks unless a block is found at the last second.

The PPLNS shift length will be steadily reduced starting June 16th. This means that more shifts will likely end with 0 blocks, but shifts that find blocks will receive a larger amount than they would have previously. It is not recommended that users wait until the last minute to change pools.

The minimum balance for a manual withdrawal is reduced to 0.0001, and will not require a transaction fee to be paid in order to request the withdrawal.

Users will have until September 30, 2015 to issue the request for their final withdrawals.



Not For Sale
In the previous closure announcement, one reason it was cancelled was due to offers to purchase/take over the pool. This never happened because of personal attachment to the project and concern over user privacy and security.

The risk of users being cheated or stolen from as a result of transferring pool ownership is not something I am willing to accept. This is part of the reason the pool is closing in the first place: Risk of users losing funds because the pool would not be able to cover losses in the event of compromise.

I will not be entertaining offers on purchasing the pool this time around. There is no (reasonable) price the pool would be sold for.



Recommended Pools
The following pools are personally recommended for users to consider moving to:

    BitMinter - long standing pool with good reputation
    Eligius - long standing pool with good reputation
    Kano CK Pool - cgminer developers
    P2Pool (decentralized pool)




Thank you to all the users and the Bitcoin community for making BTC Guild a success for the last four years. It has been hard to finally make this call a second time with the determination to not reverse the decision. You will still be able to find me around the Bitcoin Talk forums (outside of the Pools subsection for once), and on IRC in #btcguild (and probably #bitcoin once the pool winds down).
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 16, 2015, 04:51:27 am
Wow.

Wonder who is going to buy up all their old gear.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: tonyk on June 16, 2015, 04:59:31 am
The pool's luck has been on a decline for over a year. The luck on a few other pools has also shown a negative trend. While it is not impossible that it's a coincidence, this is something I have been constantly made aware of and am helpless against. There is no way to know whether it's just bad luck, a small bug in older miners ... It would only take a fraction (1 PH/s or less could do it) to cause significant harm to a competing pool, and that activity could be masked by proxies and multiple accounts to be impossible to catch.

I do not know if he discovered it or rediscovered it...but I for sure remember the post. This is doable and apparently done.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: iHashFury on June 17, 2015, 09:36:40 am
All MineBitShares delegates just flew past my delegate :)  keep voting for this project  +5%
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Brekyrself on July 30, 2015, 01:37:14 am
Bump, lets get some of these delegates voted in.

Mining is quite alive as can be seen here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0

If the minebitshares pool can gain popularity based on high payouts it will attract miners, thus they will be forced to receive payout in BitUSD.  This is an EASY way to advertise BTS and engage the crypto community.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on July 30, 2015, 02:37:47 am
Bump, lets get some of these delegates voted in.

Mining is quite alive as can be seen here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0

If the minebitshares pool can gain popularity based on high payouts it will attract miners, thus they will be forced to receive payout in BitUSD.  This is an EASY way to advertise BTS and engage the crypto community.

Thanks Brekyrself for the bump!

It really is a no-brainer.. we are sitting right below the 101 right now with the rest of our delegates.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: nethyb on July 30, 2015, 03:53:20 am
And the BitUSD mining pool has been solid under @DataSecuritNode... BitUSD appears in my wallet like magic everyday...

(http://content.screencast.com/users/nethyb/folders/Snagit/media/70749296-0081-4ea2-9db0-53e60532c60f/2015-07-30_11-44-22.png)

Please vote for the delegates, it has a direct link to attracting new miners and increasing BitShares / BitUSD awareness as evident in the number of referrals the mining pool brings
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Brekyrself on July 30, 2015, 04:14:22 am
And the BitUSD mining pool has been solid under @DataSecuritNode... BitUSD appears in my wallet like magic everyday...

(http://content.screencast.com/users/nethyb/folders/Snagit/media/70749296-0081-4ea2-9db0-53e60532c60f/2015-07-30_11-44-22.png)

Please vote for the delegates, it has a direct link to attracting new miners and increasing BitShares / BitUSD awareness as evident in the number of referrals the mining pool brings

Care to explain your mining rig(s) correlating to those payouts? :)
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: nethyb on July 30, 2015, 06:17:58 am
Sure... It's a KnC TITAN ASIC Scrypt Miner ... Hums along at about 320MH/s.

Can't say it was the smartest purchase, but the pool is helping me to break even with it!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on July 30, 2015, 02:10:29 pm
Sure... It's a KnC TITAN ASIC Scrypt Miner ... Hums along at about 320MH/s.

Can't say it was the smartest purchase, but the pool is helping me to break even with it!
Drool :P
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: iHashFury on July 31, 2015, 09:31:24 am
Sure... It's a KnC TITAN ASIC Scrypt Miner ... Hums along at about 320MH/s.

Can't say it was the smartest purchase, but the pool is helping me to break even with it!
Drool :P

Cool kit!

How much power (watts) does it use at the wall?
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Brekyrself on August 02, 2015, 05:08:55 am
So many delegates in the top 100 without price feeds, amazing.  shareholders please vote in these additional delegates as they are run correctly and will provide instant marketing for bts.

Just look here for proof: http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: iHashFury on August 02, 2015, 09:49:47 am
So many delegates in the top 100 without price feeds, amazing.  shareholders please vote in these additional delegates as they are run correctly and will provide instant marketing for bts.

Just look here for proof: http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates

Yes and I am feed up with this .
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Akado on August 02, 2015, 11:33:25 am
So many delegates in the top 100 without price feeds, amazing.  shareholders please vote in these additional delegates as they are run correctly and will provide instant marketing for bts.

Just look here for proof: http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates

Yes and I am feed up with this .

I count 16 3% delegates with no active feeds. Wtf I thought that was their main purpose. To at least secure feeds. That's 16 other people we could have helping BitShares! That's a lot. They need to go now. Plus Xeroc's 3% pay sitting at position number 2 makes it 17, since he already has a 100% pay delegate.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on August 02, 2015, 01:55:49 pm
So many delegates in the top 100 without price feeds, amazing.  shareholders please vote in these additional delegates as they are run correctly and will provide instant marketing for bts.

Just look here for proof: http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates

Yes and I am feed up with this .

I count 16 3% delegates with no active feeds. Wtf I thought that was their main purpose. To at least secure feeds. That's 16 other people we could have helping BitShares! That's a lot. They need to go now. Plus Xeroc's 3% pay sitting at position number 2 makes it 17, since he already has a 100% pay delegate.

I applaud ihashfury efforts to bring attention to this matter of delegates not running feeds. He was the first as far as I can tell to publicly remove his votes from those delegates that didn't have feeds.

My personal view is if you are going to be elected by voters to be a delegate no matter what the added purpose, it is your fiduciary responsibility to do all you can to support the network with a proper running delegate node. I get really annoyed when I hear about some 100% delegates using nickle and dime host providers when they are being paid and amply amount to put their node in a high quality network and host location.. it's what bitshares deserves.. its what the voters deserve.. period.

That said.. Akado has brought up something that has been on my mind in recent days since I told one 100% delegate who is no longer doing what they were voted to do to allow his delegate to go offline (what I like to call john-galt it.. if you rememer what happened last month) and let people vote it out of the network by way of blocks going missing and forcing the need to vote. I got all kinds of nastiness in return for the suggestion because the person controlling the private keys didn't want to give up their bts pay for maintaining the delegate. Regardless it has gotten me thinking of my own positions I am maintaining.

I am strongly considering announcing my 2X 3% delegates for minebitshares to be taken offline by a certain date and call on the community to downvote them and hopefully vote in our other 100% delegates in their place.

I realize I may not have our delegates voted in.. but really.. if giving up those 2 3% delegates so another could go to work for bitshares happens.. then that's a win for me too. It's win win. :) Like Akado says.. someone else could be really working for bitshares. My 3% delegates have virtually no impact in progress for this project.

I am aware that this forum is sorely ineffective as a communication medium though.. and will be taking a different approach in giving proper notice to everyone if I proceed with this idea.

Given the things that I haven seen happen in the delegate space these past months.. and the nullstreet journal updates.. I have a feeling we are soon going to be coming to a reckoning of delegates positions. With more effective communication though more change can take place.. that's where dposhub is going to change the landscape. :)

 Ok thats my rant... http://vote.bunkermining.com !! :D
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Akado on August 02, 2015, 02:36:52 pm
So many delegates in the top 100 without price feeds, amazing.  shareholders please vote in these additional delegates as they are run correctly and will provide instant marketing for bts.

Just look here for proof: http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates

Yes and I am feed up with this .

I count 16 3% delegates with no active feeds. Wtf I thought that was their main purpose. To at least secure feeds. That's 16 other people we could have helping BitShares! That's a lot. They need to go now. Plus Xeroc's 3% pay sitting at position number 2 makes it 17, since he already has a 100% pay delegate.

I applaud ihashfury efforts to bring attention to this matter of delegates not running feeds. He was the first as far as I can tell to publicly remove his votes from those delegates that didn't have feeds.

My personal view is if you are going to be elected by voters to be a delegate no matter what the added purpose, it is your fiduciary responsibility to do all you can to support the network with a proper running delegate node. I get really annoyed when I hear about some 100% delegates using nickle and dime host providers when they are being paid and amply amount to put their node in a high quality network and host location.. it's what bitshares deserves.. its what the voters deserve.. period.

That said.. Akado has brought up something that has been on my mind in recent days since I told one 100% delegate who is no longer doing what they were voted to do to allow his delegate to go offline (what I like to call john-galt it.. if you rememer what happened last month) and let people vote it out of the network by way of blocks going missing and forcing the need to vote. I got all kinds of nastiness in return for the suggestion because the person controlling the private keys didn't want to give up their bts pay for maintaining the delegate. Regardless it has gotten me thinking of my own positions I am maintaining.

I am strongly considering announcing my 2X 3% delegates for minebitshares to be taken offline by a certain date and call on the community to downvote them and hopefully vote in our other 100% delegates in their place.

I realize I may not have our delegates voted in.. but really.. if giving up those 2 3% delegates so another could go to work for bitshares happens.. then that's a win for me too. It's win win. :) Like Akado says.. someone else could be really working for bitshares. My 3% delegates have virtually no impact in progress for this project.

I am aware that this forum is sorely ineffective as a communication medium though.. and will be taking a different approach in giving proper notice to everyone if I proceed with this idea.

Given the things that I haven seen happen in the delegate space these past months.. and the nullstreet journal updates.. I have a feeling we are soon going to be coming to a reckoning of delegates positions. With more effective communication though more change can take place.. that's where dposhub is going to change the landscape. :)

 Ok thats my rant... http://vote.bunkermining.com !! :D

Indeed this is a serious matter.

If you take your delegates down we will move onto 20 delegates that can/should possibly be removed. one fifth of all delegates! the problem is atm we don't have enough manpower to compensate that. I mean we don't have enough people able to do something useful with better paid delegates, for example 100% since it's the more common one. Even if we voted those 17 delegates down I doubt we would have enough people for that, but we can however vote others in that can do a better job and really care. It's better to have other 3% delegates in, at least they provide feeds.

What's someone who gets voted in and then does nothing? It's a leech. We can't have those people voted in.

Given that, assuming most of those delegates would go away we could vote in:

btstools.digitalgaia
minebts2/3/4/5.bunkermining-com
delegate.dposhub-org
del.fav
martin-38ptswarrior-raum
bitspace-clains
and many other 3% delegates who actually care and deserve to be in

btw: who is chen.haonan? It's registered as a 100% pay and I dunno who he is or what he does.

I'm not saying who I would vote in or if I would vote all of those delegates in, that's up to you to decide, but what matter is, there are people working harder and who actually care and deserve to be in more than those with inactive feeds. If they don't contribute to BitShares, what are they doing here then? Leeching? No, thanks.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: xeroc on August 03, 2015, 06:44:11 am
I removed all 3% delegates with no price feeds from my slate. These are:

* delegate.nathanhourt.com
* bitcoiners
* cny.bts500
* dac.bts500
* eur.bts500
* delegate.follow-my-vote
* delegate.webber
* dpos.crazybit
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: iHashFury on August 03, 2015, 09:28:04 am
That should make some room for MineBitShares  :)
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on August 03, 2015, 10:18:09 pm
Excellent
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on August 19, 2015, 05:50:00 pm
Today the bunker got a visit from onceuponatime!

He traveled all the way across the country to get a look at what we have inside.

He saw BunkerMining first hand.. and said he approves! :)


http://vote.bunkermining.com everyone!!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: onceuponatime on August 19, 2015, 11:46:41 pm
Today the bunker got a visit from onceuponatime!

He traveled all the way across the country to get a look at what we have inside.

He saw BunkerMining first hand.. and said he approves! :)


http://vote.bunkermining.com everyone!!

My name is "onceuponatime" - and I approve this message.

Jonathon has vision and drive! 

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Brekyrself on August 28, 2015, 01:00:30 am
Looks like a few more got in, only 5 and 6 remain in standby.  This should help boost profitability?!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on August 28, 2015, 01:25:40 am
Looks like a few more got in, only 5 and 6 remain in standby.  This should help boost profitability?!

OH WOW! Lets see if it lasts! There is turmoil in the 101 right now and this could change in the next hour even!

The short answer however is YES. With those additional delegates we are going to be able to boost our bonuses and get the rest of the dev done to move on to phase 1 update.

Thank you to whom ever made the push to vote these final ones in and everyone who has continued to support the growth of this project!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: iHashFury on August 28, 2015, 08:32:14 am
Looks like a few more got in, only 5 and 6 remain in standby.  This should help boost profitability?!

OH WOW! Lets see if it lasts! There is turmoil in the 101 right now and this could change in the next hour even!

The short answer however is YES. With those additional delegates we are going to be able to boost our bonuses and get the rest of the dev done to move on to phase 1 update.

Thank you to whom ever made the push to vote these final ones in and everyone who has continued to support the growth of this project!

 +5%
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: santaclause102 on August 28, 2015, 09:50:28 am
How much traction has the mining pool gotten with the two 100% delegates you had in the top 101 for a while? What are the numbers there (costs and new users introduced)?

What are the reasons that this will scale more than linearly now that you have trippled the amount delegates?

My (critical) thinking is that miners are professional companies that are very specialized in mining and do not look into investing (in crypto projects) or using them. This would be different if we had many home miners still... If that is so then it is just subsidizing mining for nothing.

My overall take on marketing atm is that we shouldnt waste any ressources on it until 2.0 is out.  If you think about it the 6 100% btsmining delegates that are in atm could afford a new developer that works half time in the US or  two full time devs in Eastern Europe....
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: CalabiYau on August 28, 2015, 10:03:22 am
I removed all 3% delegates with no price feeds from my slate. These are:

* delegate.nathanhourt.com
* bitcoiners
* cny.bts500
* dac.bts500
* eur.bts500
* delegate.follow-my-vote
* delegate.webber
* dpos.crazybit

This is my voting policy too. I will fire up a wallet over the WE and revising votes.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Akado on August 28, 2015, 12:20:10 pm
If you think about it the 6 100% btsmining delegates that are in atm could afford a new developer that works half time in the US or  two full time devs in Eastern Europe....

But do we have those developers available?
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: santaclause102 on August 28, 2015, 12:27:58 pm
If you think about it the 6 100% btsmining delegates that are in atm could afford a new developer that works half time in the US or  two full time devs in Eastern Europe....

But do we have those developers available?
Seeking them is costly too of course. I just put things into perspective. You can also just save the money. The question is whether the subsidized bts mining pool is really cost effective (see considerations above) It is the single most costly operation atm that is paid through inflation...
And imo the model should have proofed with one or two delegates before it gets 6 therefore my questions above to data...
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on August 28, 2015, 12:40:20 pm
Happy to see that minebitshares is almost completely voted in. The recent voting was very important. For the most profitable mining pool!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: Akado on August 28, 2015, 01:19:47 pm
If you think about it the 6 100% btsmining delegates that are in atm could afford a new developer that works half time in the US or  two full time devs in Eastern Europe....

But do we have those developers available?
Seeking them is costly too of course. I just put things into perspective. You can also just save the money. The question is whether the subsidized bts mining pool is really cost effective (see considerations above) It is the single most costly operation atm that is paid through inflation...
And imo the model should have proofed with one or two delegates before it gets 6 therefore my questions above to data...

I understand. I honestly would prefer a few more devs, but if we had that opportunity, we would have them already lurking in the forums or have CNX mentioning that, so it seems there's a lack of quality devs at the moment, in the crypto space.

I know a few friends that could help with some stuff but even though I try every week to get them to come here, they just don't have the time. I find it really hard to get someone with a full time job that is reasonably well paid to come here. It makes me kind of sad because we could have something even better going on here.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on August 28, 2015, 01:53:44 pm
How much traction has the mining pool gotten with the two 100% delegates you had in the top 101 for a while? What are the numbers there (costs and new users introduced)?

What are the reasons that this will scale more than linearly now that you have trippled the amount delegates?

My (critical) thinking is that miners are professional companies that are very specialized in mining and do not look into investing (in crypto projects) or using them. This would be different if we had many home miners still... If that is so then it is just subsidizing mining for nothing.

My overall take on marketing atm is that we shouldnt waste any ressources on it until 2.0 is out.  If you think about it the 6 100% btsmining delegates that are in atm could afford a new developer that works half time in the US or  two full time devs in Eastern Europe....

Good questions.. it's difficult to keep up with thing the way the forum is and with reports in Nullstreet.

The traction on the pool has been nearly the same if not lower since we got took over for a variety of reasons:
- The bonus that initially gained the pool popularity went down by over 80%
- Profitability remained the same due to pool needing updating to newer methods of mining, so other pools offered better payouts.
- We haven't promoted minebitshares because any miners we attract in our current state would just turn and burn and move on without a competitive value add.

So with all that comes the updates needed. The bonuses we have been paying out are far less than what used to be that drove the pool to 3 times the size it is today.. along with other factors I mentioned. We do have some good days, but not as consistently as any miner would like.

We had to abandon the current platform because it is dated and so had to rebuild a whole new platform for the pool. We got as far as configuring over 18 of the most profitable coins along with additional protocol support. I had enough to pay that far and then no further due to lack of funds. I actually got the worker to agree to hold off on the remaining balance due to our market cap being so bad so that I could make the BTS go further. Now we have several more features that require some custom programming work in order to make the pool production functional.

I actually have two different programming teams I can utilize...they just don't work for nearly free. I have my own group of programmers that do work related to typical serve operations, but that is a very different beast from crypto. I attempted earlier on to push them towards getting some of this work done but that didn't work out well.

Akado is right.. crypto space programmers who know what they are doing are not easy to find and the ones you do find are so busy, they are not interested unless you got a good chunk of money for them. I lost count of how many I interviewed. I thought it would be like other programmers initially, which you can find everywhere.. but not this variety.

Otherwise all the BTS has been converting to bitUSD everyday driving combining with the mining about $100 on average and $300 bitUSD on the high days. This is nothing compared to where I know we can take it with the dev plans. I have stated several times we can see $100k a day in volume in the final stages of operation.

Some of your assumptions on mining however are a bit off from what we do. They seem based on bitcoin mining only. We are currently only doing altcoins. Future plans were to include bitcoin as part of the pool but only if it is more profitable.

The target for us is GPU miners.. it's not a zero sum game for them as you said. There are GPU miners making money.. otherwise they wouldn't continue to do it.

I don't see as much of a future in the big rig mining operations with everything going on.. the GPU space however has a great deal of opportunity that is only going to continue to grow. Those that are only focused on bitcoin though wouldn't recognize it. Perhaps now with ETH launching there is a renewed interest. I made a mention elsewhere about us supporting ETH mining in the future. Mine ETH for bitUSD? Yes Please.

Just because we got voted in yesterday doesn't mean we suddenly have stockpiles of cash to payout to everyone. Note our market cap still makes what BTS we get terribly terribly weak. We pledged earlier on that we would put it towards increased bonus/payouts and towards dev so that we can get to a point where we no longer need the delegates.

If you look back you can see my view of delegates (at least in 1.0.. goes for workers in 2.0) is that they are a temporary vehicle only.. not something to be used in perpetuity. So as it stands now that we got more delegate support, I can boost payouts and now start to save up towards moving on in the development of the pool to be competitive and self sustaining. At that point you can expect an announcement from us about all that.

This is all very short lived however. As I recall,  all delegates beyond 3% come 2.0 will have worker + witnesses.. however they will need to get revoted for as I understand. It would make sense for us to wind up the multiples we have and just push out the # we need to get the job done with one. DPOSHub is going to make that whole process much easier. I been saying this since the beginning. Either way, I remain committed to the project despite the heavy cost it has imposed on me personally because I know there is a pathway to turning it all around and know it can be a major contributor to bitshares dominating the crypto space as far as mining goes.

Anyhow.. hangout is coming up and I still have other work to do.. hope this managed to answer your questions... be happy to answer any others later today.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: santaclause102 on August 28, 2015, 03:58:04 pm
[...]
I see that you put a lot of work into it as you laid out in your post.

The question I would like to have an answer for is (I didn't see an answer to that in your text) how effective the pool is: For example: overall cost (incl. development work, subsidized payouts etc) / NEW user introduced to the wallet.
My opinion is that if that is not a good ratio or the ratio is not known then 6 delegates adds quite a bit of dilution and therefore selling pressure for something that is not effective or at least not proven to be effective. The two delegates that were in there (also at a higher market cap) should have been enough to prove this marketing method to justify 6 delegates quantifyably. 

I like that you put a lot of thought and effort into your post but I would prefer a concise reply that is on point (not longer than necessary; I had a hard time seeing an answer to my question in your last post ) :)
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: fuzzy on August 29, 2015, 07:55:29 am
bumping.  this is a valuable project imho.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on August 29, 2015, 01:25:43 pm
[...]
I see that you put a lot of work into it as you laid out in your post.

The question I would like to have an answer for is (I didn't see an answer to that in your text) how effective the pool is: For example: overall cost (incl. development work, subsidized payouts etc) / NEW user introduced to the wallet.
My opinion is that if that is not a good ratio or the ratio is not known then 6 delegates adds quite a bit of dilution and therefore selling pressure for something that is not effective or at least not proven to be effective. The two delegates that were in there (also at a higher market cap) should have been enough to prove this marketing method to justify 6 delegates quantifyably. 

I like that you put a lot of thought and effort into your post but I would prefer a concise reply that is on point (not longer than necessary; I had a hard time seeing an answer to my question in your last post ) :)

It's not just a new user introduced to the wallet. It's a regular user generating transactions and volume on a almost daily basis.

Based on our current averages, a user generates $2 a day and is paid out in bitUSD. This means that we are effectively holding triple the BTS.

There is a buy and there is a sell. Each day presenting we are buying up bitUSD to pay out miners. Following each individual payout they are either holding, using, or converting to something else. Either way the volume is coming to bitshares along with all the transactions. It also appears that a lot number of the miners are holders.. they are using the mining as a way to earn BTS.

The delegates we had went towards bonuses of the current pool primarily and some towards dev as I already stated.

Edit: I have had this sitting in my browser since yesterday and I have rewritten it a few times.. I realize now I just need to put out more detailed plans on development and growth so that its more concise for everyone to access. I will take some time out over this weekend to try and get this out to you and everyone by early next week. I thought I would at least post this so you know I am not ignoring your question.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: santaclause102 on August 29, 2015, 01:43:28 pm
[...]
I see that you put a lot of work into it as you laid out in your post.

The question I would like to have an answer for is (I didn't see an answer to that in your text) how effective the pool is: For example: overall cost (incl. development work, subsidized payouts etc) / NEW user introduced to the wallet.
My opinion is that if that is not a good ratio or the ratio is not known then 6 delegates adds quite a bit of dilution and therefore selling pressure for something that is not effective or at least not proven to be effective. The two delegates that were in there (also at a higher market cap) should have been enough to prove this marketing method to justify 6 delegates quantifyably. 

I like that you put a lot of thought and effort into your post but I would prefer a concise reply that is on point (not longer than necessary; I had a hard time seeing an answer to my question in your last post ) :)

It's not just a new user introduced to the wallet. It's a regular user generating transactions and volume on a almost daily basis.

Based on our current averages, a user generates $2 a day and is paid out in bitUSD. This means that we are effectively holding triple the BTS.

There is a buy and there is a sell. Each day presenting we are buying up bitUSD to pay out miners. Following each individual payout they are either holding, using, or converting to something else. Either way the volume is coming to bitshares along with all the transactions. It also appears that a lot number of the miners are holders.. they are using the mining as a way to earn BTS.

The delegates we had went towards bonuses of the current pool primarily and some towards dev as I already stated.

Edit: I have had this sitting in my browser since yesterday and I have rewritten it a few times.. I realize now I just need to put out more detailed plans on development and growth so that its more concise for everyone to access. I will take some time out over this weekend to try and get this out to you and everyone by early next week. I thought I would at least post this so you know I am not ignoring your question.
Much appreciated!
What I'd like to see is a calculation /estiamte based on the numbers that have been generated up to now. Amount of funds used vs amount of transaction fees generated (plus possibly estimate over future tx fees). Such a calculation / numbers are much more objective than all the texting we are doing here...
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: tbone on September 01, 2015, 02:02:00 pm
@delulo: I appreciate what DataSecurityNode is trying to accomplish, but I also applaud your efforts to assure funds are being used as wisely as possible.  And although I understand that with 2.0 there will be greater scrutiny and accountability (hopefully helped along by DposHub), I agree that it makes sense to scrutinize as much as possible now.  Having said that, I wonder if you are able to tally all BTS currently being paid to non-dev delegates above the 3% pay rate.  I am curious what the current total daily (non-dev) dilution may be.  Are you able to do that calculation? 


Much appreciated!
What I'd like to see is a calculation /estiamte based on the numbers that have been generated up to now. Amount of funds used vs amount of transaction fees generated (plus possibly estimate over future tx fees). Such a calculation / numbers are much more objective than all the texting we are doing here...
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 01, 2015, 04:02:05 pm
Big Update:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18253.0.html

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: santaclause102 on September 01, 2015, 06:26:09 pm
@delulo: I appreciate what DataSecurityNode is trying to accomplish, but I also applaud your efforts to assure funds are being used as wisely as possible.  And although I understand that with 2.0 there will be greater scrutiny and accountability (hopefully helped along by DposHub), I agree that it makes sense to scrutinize as much as possible now.  Having said that, I wonder if you are able to tally all BTS currently being paid to non-dev delegates above the 3% pay rate.  I am curious what the current total daily (non-dev) dilution may be.  Are you able to do that calculation? 


Much appreciated!
What I'd like to see is a calculation /estiamte based on the numbers that have been generated up to now. Amount of funds used vs amount of transaction fees generated (plus possibly estimate over future tx fees). Such a calculation / numbers are much more objective than all the texting we are doing here...
Thanks!
Looking at this http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates (+ sort by pay rate), roughly 40% of delegates (very roughly) are marketing delegates of some sort which imo is way to high given  that we have a wallet that is unusable and we would be marketing a version of bitshares which is inferior to what we finally aim for (bitshares 2.0). If someone wants to market the idea / concept of bitshares then I'd say it is much more powerful to do that while having a powerful and working client that can showcase the theory.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 02, 2015, 02:13:02 pm
@delulo: I appreciate what DataSecurityNode is trying to accomplish, but I also applaud your efforts to assure funds are being used as wisely as possible.  And although I understand that with 2.0 there will be greater scrutiny and accountability (hopefully helped along by DposHub), I agree that it makes sense to scrutinize as much as possible now.  Having said that, I wonder if you are able to tally all BTS currently being paid to non-dev delegates above the 3% pay rate.  I am curious what the current total daily (non-dev) dilution may be.  Are you able to do that calculation? 


Much appreciated!
What I'd like to see is a calculation /estiamte based on the numbers that have been generated up to now. Amount of funds used vs amount of transaction fees generated (plus possibly estimate over future tx fees). Such a calculation / numbers are much more objective than all the texting we are doing here...
Thanks!
Looking at this http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates (+ sort by pay rate), roughly 40% of delegates (very roughly) are marketing delegates of some sort which imo is way to high given  that we have a wallet that is unusable and we would be marketing a version of bitshares which is inferior to what we finally aim for (bitshares 2.0). If someone wants to market the idea / concept of bitshares then I'd say it is much more powerful to do that while having a powerful and working client that can showcase the theory.

For anybody who is following this thread, this discussion is actually continuing in another thread in MineBitShares area:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18253.msg233450.html#msg233450
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 09, 2015, 01:49:07 pm
WOW.. today for the 1st time we made DPOS HISTORY!!

ALL 6 of our delegates were voted in!

This will mean with all the updates we are bringing to the pool we will be able to drive more volume and users to mining bitshares and generate more liquidity for ALL the major BitAssets like NEVER BEFORE!

Thanks to everyone for your continued support!

If you are wondering why our bid included these delegates you are welcome to review our bid and see all it takes.

We also posted a recent update of programming that is NOW being done to allow the pool to grow much further and support all BitAssets!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18253.0.html

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 09, 2015, 04:08:31 pm
Most excellent! Congrats and success for the mining and beyond user-magnet minebitshares!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 09, 2015, 04:12:36 pm
Most excellent! Congrats and success for the mining and beyond user-magnet minebitshares!

Thank you.. Our victory was short lived unfortunately.

Within a matter of hours the dead delegate btc38.com.crypto-exchange retook the position we had gained in the 101.

Keep voting folks!

Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 10, 2015, 09:40:37 am
Don't worry, it will be alright.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 12, 2015, 04:56:48 pm
Copy of Message Sent to All Lenders:

Good Day Everyone,

This is an update on the loan status of the 6 delegate bid.

This is being sent to all the lenders and being cross posted to the bitsharestalk forum for further verification.

In recent weeks we have finally gained enough support to make our way into the 101 FOR ALL DELEGATES!

This is great news for everyone!

The first contributors who loaned money for minebts1 had been paid back in full.

Today I am happy to announce we reached the milestone to enable payout in full for minebts4.bunkermining-com and partial payments for minebt2 and minebts3!

As agreed we have paid out the lenders to the ones that got voted in on a first come, and here is a copy of the transactions:

2015-09-12T16:04:22 minebts2.bunkerm... onceuponatime       16,499.90000 BTS        withdraw pay a32f6e45
2015-09-12T16:04:24 minebts2.bunkerm... ihashfury           16,499.90000 BTS        withdraw pay cf4bf62e
2015-09-12T16:25:59 minebts3.bunkerm... lafona              21,999.90000 BTS        withdraw pay b47f3a21
2015-09-12T16:27:05 minebts4.bunkerm... testzcrypto         27,499.90000 BTS        withdraw pay 11e14c14
2015-09-12T16:27:06 minebts4.bunkerm... alpha2              21,999.90000 BTS        withdraw pay b007bdd4
2015-09-12T16:27:09 minebts4.bunkerm... webxeld             16,499.90000 BTS        withdraw pay ad0fa6e2

Now that repayment of minebts4 is complete that delegate is now clear to put funds towards development that is currently under way. Hurray!

Others have been partially paid out as could be done at this time. We will make additional payouts next week to clear remaining balances owing.

Please continue to vote and support our delegates to keep them in the 101!

We are already underway with the programming to take the pool to Phase 2 development that will see many fantastic features that will go a long way towards attracting more miners, having the most profitable pool, and providing liquidity to all the BitAsset markets.

With 2.0 coming around in 31 days, we will follow through on our promise to continue with the advancement of this project and will submit a single worker proposal at that time. At least then we never will have to hear about how this many delegates is too much ever again.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Have a great day!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 12, 2015, 05:41:42 pm
Finally! And now vote me in. I do more than some 3 percent delegates and at least deserve to be compensated for my spendings and work.

Hey Data, I also have a good day. Being successful is a good feeling!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 19, 2015, 02:22:13 pm
Copy of Message Sent to All Lenders:

Good Day Everyone,

This is an update on the loan status of the 6 delegate bid.

This is being sent to all the lenders and being cross posted to the bitsharestalk forum for further verification.

In the weeks before we managed to have all delegates voted in for a short time, however, as the market turned around we had old Chinese holders come back to buy Bitshares again and without updating their votes caused some of our delegates to bounce in and out of the 101 while dead delegates that had been voted out long ago reemerged.

You may notice I have attempted to reestablish the BitShares network with 100% delegate participation with another thread here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18316.0.html

If you have contacts that can help with this please make the effort.

Regardless of this bouncing around we are at least in a position now to repay all but the remaining balance for one contributor.

minebts5.bunkermining-com is the only delegate that is coming up short for being voted into the 101.

I am appealing to anybody who might have a reach into the Chinese community to ask them to vote for our delegates.

Until then, I am happy to report on the following payouts being completed today:

As agreed we have paid out the lenders to the ones that got voted in on a first come, and here is a copy of the transactions:

2015-09-19T13:47:37  minebts2.bunkerm... lafona              32,999.90000 BTS        withdraw pay  e7a1ff8f
2015-09-19T13:48:54  minebts3.bunkerm... testzcrypto         43,999.90000 BTS        withdraw pay  9b7926bc
2015-09-19T13:51:05  minebts6.bunkerm... nethyb              65,999.90000 BTS        withdraw pay  495c44a6
2015-09-19T13:52:55  minebts5.bunkerm... hotwallet02         10,999.90000 BTS        withdraw pay  b6e8f246

Now that repayment of minebts2 minebts3 minebts6 is complete those delegates are now clear to put funds towards development that is currently under way. Hurray!

There is still one more contributor remaining with a balance of 55,000 BTS due that paid for minebts5.bunkermining-com.

Please continue to vote and support our delegates to keep them in the 101!

I am expecting to have an update on our current developments out sometime soon.

We have already announced that we will be updating all delegates to 0.9.3 and will continue as witnesses into 2.0.

Yesterday Dan announced that the current rate of pay for witnesses will be around $300 per month. While I am doubtful we will get all our delegates voted in to be witnesses, I still will proceed with submitting a worker proposal following 2.0.

I could potentially promise that if our witnesses get voted in I will dedicate $200 a month from each towards the further dev/support of the pool.. however I feel this is not the intended purpose of the witness branch of delegation. It might be seen as some kind of perversion perhaps? Nonetheless, I only bring it up as another possible course of action.

I do believe that going forward it is going to make more sense for the project to wind up all the delegates/witnesses and then submit a single worker proposal for the specific funding. This was what I originally promised also. Do you feel we should take a different direction?

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Have a great day!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: fav on September 21, 2015, 08:45:53 am
This a way too convoluted for my tastes. minebitshares.com converts mined coins into USD and sends them to the Bitshares client. To get the USD I have to open yet another account I don't really want, convert my USD into bitUSD to transfer it to the exchange, then convert it to BTC at the exchange and send it to another exchange to convert into fiat which then deposits into my Simple account. Surely I'm missing something. Converting USD into something else then back into USD seems rather silly.

Why would you convert to BTC?

bitUSD->USD->your bank
Because there is a $10.00 wire transfer fee. The miners only make about $4 a day. That is 2 and 1/2 days worth of mining just in fees. Not to mention $5.00 deposit fee. So more than 3 days of mining just to pay the fees.

why would you convert to FIAT every day? I'm pretty sure you can't convert bitcoin for free either. I'd do it once per month or every 60days.

how much do you make per day?
I don't convert to fiat everyday. I normally keep it in BTC until I need to sell some to pay costs. Currently the miners make $4-5 a day and cost me $7.50 a day in electricity. (I mine at a loss right now) I've changed the miners back to another pool. The exchange I was referred to earlier either doesn't have sellers on a coin, or they are lunatics thinking people will pay 1000% more  for a coin. I'm just waiting on someone to sell me BTC so I can delete Bitshares and move on.

this is a great summary on why I don't support mining bitshares.

- Miners only care for bitcoin
- conversion rate is astronomical even more so at the moment.
- bitUSD will always stay slightly above Peg, so miners always take a loss.

I don't think this model is here to stay, or worth the 6 100% delegate positions.

Did you collect any feedback from other miners yet? Or made an on-site Poll asking if they feel they're in profit / use BitUSD?

edit: I'd like to see some stats. how many consistent miners are using the pool?
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: onceuponatime on September 21, 2015, 09:08:32 am
This a way too convoluted for my tastes. minebitshares.com converts mined coins into USD and sends them to the Bitshares client. To get the USD I have to open yet another account I don't really want, convert my USD into bitUSD to transfer it to the exchange, then convert it to BTC at the exchange and send it to another exchange to convert into fiat which then deposits into my Simple account. Surely I'm missing something. Converting USD into something else then back into USD seems rather silly.

Why would you convert to BTC?

bitUSD->USD->your bank
Because there is a $10.00 wire transfer fee. The miners only make about $4 a day. That is 2 and 1/2 days worth of mining just in fees. Not to mention $5.00 deposit fee. So more than 3 days of mining just to pay the fees.

why would you convert to FIAT every day? I'm pretty sure you can't convert bitcoin for free either. I'd do it once per month or every 60days.

how much do you make per day?
I don't convert to fiat everyday. I normally keep it in BTC until I need to sell some to pay costs. Currently the miners make $4-5 a day and cost me $7.50 a day in electricity. (I mine at a loss right now) I've changed the miners back to another pool. The exchange I was referred to earlier either doesn't have sellers on a coin, or they are lunatics thinking people will pay 1000% more  for a coin. I'm just waiting on someone to sell me BTC so I can delete Bitshares and move on.

this is a great summary on why I don't support mining bitshares.

- Miners only care for bitcoin
- conversion rate is astronomical even more so at the moment.
- bitUSD will always stay slightly above Peg, so miners always take a loss.

I don't think this model is here to stay, or worth the 6 100% delegate positions.

Did you collect any feedback from other miners yet? Or made an on-site Poll asking if they feel they're in profit / use BitUSD?

edit: I'd like to see some stats. how many consistent miners are using the pool?

That is why I DO support mining bitshares.  Xardas2014 will have to learn at least a little bit about how BitShares works to cash out. And then there is a good chance that he will slowly discover how much better BitShares is than anything else as he continues to mine because of the profitability. And he will tell others in the "mining" communities.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: tonyk on September 21, 2015, 09:22:16 am
and the broken record (i.e me)"

"I do not like it because it is useless. [See fav post above for details.]

And because it is private project subsidized by BTS holders. Run by a bombastic over the top guy - see for example the title of this thread - Capitalized = 'Make dpos history...'  or that his thought are only truly expressed in over sized font.     What a joke. The dpos history is to pay for useless private projects?"
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: onceuponatime on September 21, 2015, 09:29:21 am
and the broken record (i.e me)"

"I do not like it because it is useless. [See fav post above for details.]

And because it is private project subsidized by BTS holders. Run by a bombastic over the top guy - see for example the title of this thread - Capitalized = 'Make dpos history...'  What a joke. The dpos history is to pay for useless private projects?"

Hey tonyk, YOU consider Data to be "bombastic"?  Wow!!!!
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: tonyk on September 21, 2015, 09:33:25 am
and the broken record (i.e me)"

"I do not like it because it is useless. [See fav post above for details.]

And because it is private project subsidized by BTS holders. Run by a bombastic over the top guy - see for example the title of this thread - Capitalized = 'Make dpos history...'  What a joke. The dpos history is to pay for useless private projects?"

Hey tonyk, YOU consider Data to be "bombastic"?  Wow!!!!

well I can express my ...sometimes controversially expressed but never baseless ideas...in regular font. Such plainness is below him. His thought always deserve a  +4 font.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: iHashFury on September 21, 2015, 09:36:57 am
To cut a long story short.

MineBitShares will be at the top of the score board for the foreseeable future https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard (https://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard)

Unless the so called marketing experts start up-ing their game or even getting their finger out
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 21, 2015, 10:38:54 am
Is it possible to game the referral system by using several different VPNs and different machines? I don't want to accuse anyone but if so, then maybe we should use different metrics(?) to measure marketing success.

I voted for all minebitshare delegates.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: xeroc on September 21, 2015, 11:45:25 am
Is it possible to game the referral system by using several different VPNs and different machines? I don't want to accuse anyone but if so, then maybe we should use different metrics(?) to measure marketing success.

I voted for all minebitshare delegates.
any account be referrer new users .. if you don't want to expose your name or success .. just create a dummy account for that
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 21, 2015, 11:49:43 am
I will create a thread for that question now. I don't want to spoil this thread and I think you did not understand my question xeroc.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on September 21, 2015, 12:27:26 pm
Is it possible to game the referral system by using several different VPNs and different machines? I don't want to accuse anyone but if so, then maybe we should use different metrics(?) to measure marketing success.

I voted for all minebitshare delegates.

The refer system has been setup in such a way that it is economically unsatisfying to attempt to game it that way. You will just end up in a big hole.
Title: Re: MAKE DPOS HISTORY - VOTE! for MineBitShares AKA BunkerMining Project!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on September 21, 2015, 12:54:44 pm
Yes but nobody knows for sure and people's success was judged on the amount of refs since January.

I made a thread here:
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=18540.0

I'm really sorry that I posted this here. I just hit me and then it bubbled out here.