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晕啊，为什么咱们什么应用都没有搞成功你们就有底气提高收费了？有啊。京东一轮又一轮的融资，到现在还是亏损。
等到用户来了你们再搞这些花哨的东西不行吗
现在BTS公司都快倒闭了，每个股东都套的死死的，这样玩真的好吗
我就纳闷了为什么总是画饼让股东等，什么时候能专心做应用，实际的做商业计划做推广
传统企业中，如果一份钱都没给股东赚到，要钱的时候能这么有底气吗
QQ对你收1毛钱聊天费你都会反对，但他要收100块买个太阳大把人愿意。没看到QQ上一堆广告？各种弹窗。还动不动扫描硬盘。
这成本最后也没转到我们聊天的人身上
没有人交易，BITCNY就是空中楼閣，如果能保证网络安全，应该免费让用户使用，尽可能提高流动性。云币免费2年，时代0.1%双向手续费，为什么时代交易量还是比云币大很多？
BITCNY 稳定了，你还怕没有盈利模式吗
你这就是抬杠了。从用户的角度想，为什么离线钱包里就一定要有BTS？BTS价值又不稳定。很简单，离线钱包就用BTS呗，工具提供又不需要用户配置我没有抬杠，是真不支持这个功能，很简单的事情，手续费都设为1BTS就够了手续费都设成1BTS，你用离线钱包转CNY，如果钱包里只有CNY，照样会碰到手续费不够的问题。
BTS都这鸟样了，你还有心思玩这些花哨的东西。。。
现在应该支持推广各类建立在BTS上的实际商业应用，比如 transwiser, openledger ...
如果这么久了还是停留在画饼阶段那BTS真没希望，我宁愿退出
2.0以来升级会员赚的钱，已经被花完了。这种一次性的收入靠不住，除非一直有新用户。利润来源很多，比如升级会员就是一大笔钱alt你看过我前面的分析吗？
2. BTS 网络赚取的手续费（各种转账、交易、升级会员、发行资产等）作为收入，一部分用来支持开发
现在系统每天手续费收入2000BTS不到，并且看样子后面手续费还会降，但是每天光witness支出就要4万多BTS，哪里有利润？
公司要开源节流，更重要的是开源。
还有可以对资产所有者征收交易费提成，比如BOTSCNY要开通BTS市场，可以每个月收100块钱，这是长期收入来源。羊毛出在羊身上。
还可以开展其它高级服务
QQ不会对你聊天收流量费，但会对VIP收费用户提供更高级的服务，这才是可以发展的路线
我没有抬杠，是真不支持这个功能，很简单的事情，手续费都设为1BTS就够了手续费都设成1BTS，你用离线钱包转CNY，如果钱包里只有CNY，照样会碰到手续费不够的问题。
BTS都这鸟样了，你还有心思玩这些花哨的东西。。。
现在应该支持推广各类建立在BTS上的实际商业应用，比如 transwiser, openledger ...
如果这么久了还是停留在画饼阶段那BTS真没希望，我宁愿退出
alt你看过我前面的分析吗？
2. BTS 网络赚取的手续费（各种转账、交易、升级会员、发行资产等）作为收入，一部分用来支持开发
no, I am afraid that's not a solutionSorry I didn't get what you said.
this kinds of complexity/uncertainty will make users felt more worse
I have to re-install windows, I don't have a private key for this account, so I guess I lost it.If you still have the CORRECT brain key(s), it's possible to recover.
Thanks all of you for your help but I think that this account is lost
Thanks everyone.1. Reinstall BitShares-2.0.160103b-x64-cli-tools.exe and take a look at C:\Program Files\BitShares 2\bin\, make sure it's the newest one.
1) I am running this
BitShares-2.0.160103b-x64-cli-tools.exe
It is the latest for win that I see up there. Is there newer version somewhere?
2)Specifically allowed the witness_node.exe through the firewall. (and turning it off completely - with same results)...
Code: [Select]TCP 0.0.0.0:52122 Inspiron_i5:0 LISTENING
3) I believe I have a connection to this seed node:
Code: [Select]TCP xxx.156.1.146:52122 188.166.188.206:1779 ESTABLISHEDedit: I thought it was visible from the pic above but it seems not. anyway 188.166.188.206:1779 is one of the seed nodes witness_node.exe is trying to connect to.
What to try next? I believe I was running the witness node during the last hard fork time if this changes anything somehow.
Are we talking about the woodygar-1 account?Imo the design/implementation of annual membership is probably wrong.
I can see it has 1 year membership but no cashback-vesting-balance object attached. Not sure if that's how it's supposed to be.Code: [Select]get_account woodygar-1
{
"id": "1.2.93566",
"membership_expiration_date": "2017-01-23T12:18:24",
"registrar": "1.2.90713",
"referrer": "1.2.93566",
"lifetime_referrer": "1.2.90713",
"network_fee_percentage": 2000,
"lifetime_referrer_fee_percentage": 3000,
"referrer_rewards_percentage": 0,
"name": "woodygar-1",
"owner": { ... },
"active": { ... },
"options": { ... },
"statistics": "2.6.93566",
"whitelisting_accounts": [],
"blacklisting_accounts": [],
"blacklisted_accounts": []
}The statistics object doesn't show any pending fees although it seems you're quite active. Strange.I was probably looking at the wrong moment.
Hm, looking at the code it seems that your referrer_rewards_percentage is the problem. The network gets 20% of your fees, the lifetime referrer gets 30% and the remaining 50% is split between you and the registrar according to the referrer_rewards_percentage.
This might be a bug. @bytemaster ?
let me ask a question for the percentage fees.Thanks for pointing out this issue. It's what I just posted above. And a potential solution described.
suppose we have known the current rate for CNY is 0.02CNY/BTS, the min fee is 10 BTS, the high fee is 20 BTS, percentage is 0.1%
If I want to transfer 200 CNY, what fees information should package in the transaction?
is it 10 BTS or 0.2 CNY?
if this is an offline operation, such as signed from a cold wallet, or pay with a paper wallet.
when generate the operation, the rate is 0.02 CNY/BTS
after signed, you want to broadcast, the price have changed
1) if you pay fees with 10BTS, and price change to 0.019CNY/BTS, it's not enough, because now you need pay 0.2/0.019 BTS
2) if you pay fees with 0.2CNY, and price change to 0.021 CNY/BTS, it's still not enough, because now you need pay at least 10BTS*0.021CNY/BTS
To @xeroc, @cube and others who are testing or going to test my code:Done. @xeroc @cube
I'm about to add an extension to the fee structure for easier future extension. After this change, something in the test chain will become incompatible. If replay doesn't work, need to reset the chain to a state before the first propose_fee_change after applied my previous change.
I will post here when the work is done.
I won't add hard fork logic for this change since it's too much work and not very useful imo.
Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for support!
