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2971
No fee is nice. Who will pay to witnesses? Should these bastards work for free?
No, me as one of the bastards don't want to work for free.

2972
Ah.. looks like I'm involved.

Honestly, after some thinking, I've changed my mind a bit.. now, I think we'd better leave the vesting thing unchanged, since it will make a barrier for registrars and referrers so only the ones who have enough strength can afford deep discount while competing, since IMO we should encourage long-term investment rather than "earn quick money and go" behavior.

I'll edit that post.

2973
General Discussion / Re: Do we need mailinglist(s)?
« on: February 08, 2016, 02:41:23 pm »
I thought Chinese people rarely use mail lists..

2974
It seems people don't care?

2975
From current poll status, 4 people wanted to fund this feature, 4 people wanted to develop(make it) this feature, so, deal?

//Update: please ignore the "bullsh*t" part..

2976
General Discussion / Re: Why there is so little trading volume on the DEX
« on: February 08, 2016, 02:31:02 pm »
EDIT: And do it as FBA.

What is FBA?

FBA = fee backed asset

Actually isn't it "Feature" Backed Asset? Fees don't have to originate from a feature, but the entire concept arose from the idea of selling the revenue stream from a feature, that feature being confidential transactions. It's a minor nit, since the revenue stream comes from using the feature, i.e. there is a fee for it's use and that is the source of the revenue. Fee Backed Asset doesn't convey the heart & soul of the concept IMO.
The idea of integrating BTS into MT4 is great, but I don't see how this could be fund by FBA. You could however take a percentage of trades from those that use MT4 simply buy putting another operation into transactions that transfer funds .. or some subscription model ..
Income after developed such plugin are from the MT4 side. License fee.

2977
Is there any dilution?
This is the perfect example of how the western community thinks the eastern community works ..

Of course there will *not* be any dilution!
Of course there will be dilution (for development) if we all want this feature and don't want to pay fiat like OnceUponATime did for STEALTH.

Of course there will be dilution (to witnesses) if we make all operations free.


2978
中文 (Chinese) / Re: "CoinHoarder's machine" 是个什么鬼?
« on: February 08, 2016, 09:24:29 am »
巨蟹,我感觉你有点钻牛角尖了啊。

别人帮你拉来的客户,你赚了钱分一点给别人,我觉得没什么问题。只是分多少的问题。

如果现在你的思路是一点都不想给,我觉得是不对的。天下没有免费的午餐。

我的思路是给多少由市场竞争说了算。"CoinHoarder's machine"就是市场竞争的过程,不需要过多应对。从系统角度来说,大额返款90天锁定期,你的machine有多少储备资金,决定了你能同时支撑多少用户同时注册升级。

注册商可以靠提供增值服务赚钱,客户不一定就会选免费的。比如在我这里注册的账号,每笔交易我收5%手续费,但是我提供技术支持,比如协助升级钱包、教客户怎么下单等等,客户可能就愿意出这笔钱。并且以后UI一定是差异化的,注册商可以根据用户名来判断你能不能用这个UI,给不给你服务,这也是竞争的一部分。

价格战是一定会有的,这个我不否认。把推荐制度做在核心里,给注册商带来很多方便,只是现在有点死板,定死了注册商拿80%,还没有接口可以直接给用户折扣或者返款,所以价格竞争只能靠外部程序。偏偏OpenLedger技术又不行,又不愿意放弃利润,又没有太多竞争,导致现在价格高企。不过为什么PLAY也没有做返款程序?

你要是有实力,完全可以自己出一个钱包,和他们竞争啊。这样,在你这里注册的用户,返不返款、返多少你自己说了算。

另外,把推荐制度做在核心,是考虑到规避某些监管因素的。英文论坛里有人说过,不过我找不到了。

算了,不多说了。大家先开开心心过年吧,过完年再说。  :D

2979
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Please vote for xn-delegate
« on: February 08, 2016, 08:47:04 am »
Finally sync completed!!!
this is ws url :ws://120.27.121.190:11011
To be able to produce blocks, register some test accounts and vote for your witness and current init witnesses.

Has registered: necklace
Ping @xeroc
Voted you in .. should be active within 14 hours
I wonder why don't you set the maintenance interval shorter.. IMO it's better for testing, especially for the referral and/or cash-back things which need to be calculated at every interval. It can be set with committee proposals.

2980
General Discussion / Re: Happy New Year to all our Chinese cousins!
« on: February 08, 2016, 08:42:57 am »
Thanks.  :D

2981
is it a big difference for witness to produce a empty block or with many many transaction?
Sure it's different. More transaction means more calculation and more storage.

IMO we're far from needing rate limiting. However we can think/plan ahead.

2982
all dex trades will be free or very cheap  and memberships rewards still in effect
I don't understand how the memberships rewards will be in effect if ALL free.

2983
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Please vote for xn-delegate
« on: February 08, 2016, 08:34:38 am »
Finally sync completed!!!
this is ws url :ws://120.27.121.190:11011
To be able to produce blocks, register some test accounts and vote for your witness and current init witnesses.

Has registered: necklace
Ping @xeroc

2984
@ccedk @dannotestein @valzav Currently OpenLedger set "referrer_rewards_percentage" to 0% for new accounts who referred by nobody. It effectively causes 0% cash-back if the the account is upgraded to annual member. Please check. Maybe you need to temporarily disable the "upgrade to annual member" feature in your hosted wallet.

Today another account "dstnsn" is upgraded to annual member, and will be affected by this issue.
BlockTrades isn't involved in any of the referral stuff, but I'll double check when I see Valentine tomorrow to make sure he knows about it.
Thanks.

2985
General Discussion / Re: Things I don't like about the committee
« on: February 07, 2016, 07:15:57 pm »
I am sure coindesk news and bitcointalk will love this characterization.
I remember someone said that any news in coindesk or bitcointalk about BitShares are good news.

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