sounds nice!
You are taking the watermaker after this pressrelease even higher :)
(http://www.portnet.k12.ny.us/cms/lib6/NY01001023/Centricity/Domain/747/AnnouncementsClipArt.gif)
We will be collecting a growing list of this summer's planned announcements right here as they occur. The first one is June 8, 2015.
ANNOUNCEMENT 1 - BITSHARES 2.0
http://bitshares.github.io/blog/2015/06/08/announcing-bitshares-2.0/ (http://bitshares.github.io/blog/2015/06/08/announcing-bitshares-2.0/)
ANNOUNCEMENT 2 - The BitShares Exchange Network
CCEDK to Publish its Order Book on the BitShares Blockchain (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16982.msg217163.html#msg217163)
ANNOUNCEMENT 3 - Banx Capital Joins BitShares Exchange Network
Banx.io and BanxShares are Upgrading to BitShares 2.0
(https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17148.msg219020.html#msg219020)
ANNOUNCEMENT 4 - Peak Venture Group Adopts BitShares Network
Peak Venture Group Adopts BitShares Network (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17340.msg220745.html#msg220745)
ANNOUNCEMENT 5 - (To be continued...)
sounds nice!
You are taking the watermaker after this pressrelease even higher :)
So much more to come, the dam won't hold us back much longer.
Now I am going to have a hard time believing this is good news until newmine tells us we are being scammed ???
Go out into the world and bring us more such leads from every nation, tribe, and industry.
The referral system is everything if its going to get us companies bringing people in like this and growing the network. Even if Bitshares gets only 20% of eventual revenues, 20% of the moon is infinitely better that 100% of not taking off at all.
Now I am going to have a hard time believing this is good news until newmine tells us we are being scammed ???
Go out into the world and bring us more such leads from every nation, tribe, and industry.
that's the plan once the affiliate system is in place ;)
Now I am going to have a hard time believing this is good news until newmine tells us we are being scammed ???
Hehe.
Previous to this we've had three announcements and the price is down 25% or so.
I do not want to get your hopes up, so I refrain from saying anything until it is really done.
I do not want to get your hopes up, so I refrain from saying anything until it is really done.
I love that. You should teach it to Stan. :P
What will they think of next?
In other words, what other historical business models requiring humans trusting humans will be instantly surpassed in service quality by the advent of the public smartchain?
very well done .. +5%Go out into the world and bring us more such leads from every nation, tribe, and industry.
that's the plan once the affiliate system is in place ;)
This has been my primary function for a year guys. I know you haven't heard about it much, I keep it to my self and a small group within the dev team, but it has been happening. Part out of necessity, part from flames and BS on the forum that I just do not have time for. People can debate and knock on each other all day long, I would rather focus on talking to CEO's of major companies and not waste precious time.
Some of these deals take 6 months to a year to get done. I have been on this for a year now. We have been talking to, educating, and working with others potential partners, some in major industries that provide backbone support for serious business.
I do not want to get your hopes up, so I refrain from saying anything until it is really done.
Don't spend the money til it is in your hands, or you WILL regret it.
Onward and upward.
Now I am going to have a hard time believing this is good news until newmine tells us we are being scammed ???
Now I am going to have a hard time believing this is good news until newmine tells us we are being scammed ???
Hehe.
Previous to this we've had three announcements and the price is down 25% or so.
Indeed, but we must realize that once the capital from these projects starts flowing, people will take notice quickly.
We REALLY need to get 2.0 out and start making money. As soon as people start making mone,y and we start burning some BTS/moving some to reserve fund, we will take off.
This one is really impressive. Great going!
@Murderistic - Well, now you've made it up on the Big Board again!(http://www.portnet.k12.ny.us/cms/lib6/NY01001023/Centricity/Domain/747/AnnouncementsClipArt.gif)
We will be collecting a growing list of this summer's planned announcements right here as they occur. The first one is June 8, 2015.
ANNOUNCEMENT 1 - BITSHARES 2.0
http://bitshares.github.io/blog/2015/06/08/announcing-bitshares-2.0/ (http://bitshares.github.io/blog/2015/06/08/announcing-bitshares-2.0/)
ANNOUNCEMENT 2 - The BitShares Exchange Network
CCEDK to Publish its Order Book on the BitShares Blockchain (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16982.msg217163.html#msg217163)
ANNOUNCEMENT 3 - Banx Capital Joins BitShares Exchange Network
Banx.io and BanxShares are Upgrading to BitShares 2.0
(https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17148.msg219020.html#msg219020)
ANNOUNCEMENT 4 - Peak Venture Group Adopts BitShares Network
Peak Venture Group Adopts BitShares Network (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17340.msg220745.html#msg220745)
ANNOUNCEMENT 5 - (To be continued...)
Welcome Steve Tiffany, Justin LaFountain, and the whole emerging Peak Venture Group family!
This one is really impressive. Great going!
I agree. This is the most impressive announcement so far, aside from the 100k TPS (which seems to have gotten buried under all the FUD).
Of course, 100k TPS blockchain is one thing, but business partnerships that actually bring us in users are another. This is what we need.
This is the most impressive announcement in bitshares history so far... Why is the price falling? It's baffling.
This is the most impressive announcement in bitshares history so far... Why is the price falling? It's baffling.
They are still just announcements... bitshares has had a ton of them in it's life cycle. Until 2.0 is released, investors are going to be conservative with their money. Once these companies actually start using the block chain, then investors will take notice and the price will move up.
This is the most impressive announcement in bitshares history so far... Why is the price falling? It's baffling.
This is the most impressive announcement in bitshares history so far... Why is the price falling? It's baffling.
They are still just announcements... bitshares has had a ton of them in it's life cycle. Until 2.0 is released, investors are going to be conservative with their money. Once these companies actually start using the block chain, then investors will take notice and the price will move up.
"just announcements"... as in you think the markets believe this is most likely a lie? The dev team has lost some credibility, sure, but the chances of this being an outright lie seem vanishingly small - that's just the only scenario i can think of where markets would actually sell off on news like this. I guess crypto markets are just really, really inefficient lol.
Why is the price falling?
Zerg.
"just announcements"... as in you think the markets believe this is most likely a lie? The dev team has lost some credibility, sure, but the chances of this being an outright lie seem vanishingly small - that's just the only scenario i can think of where markets would actually sell off on news like this. I guess crypto markets are just really, really inefficient lol.
This is the most impressive announcement in bitshares history so far... Why is the price falling? It's baffling.
Good job murderisticsome people may not want to buy it at good news but at the end of the triangle to see if it can break through .This is the most impressive announcement in bitshares history so far... Why is the price falling? It's baffling.
Looks like there was some increased volume around the time of the announcement, so probably a bit front-running by those in the know hoping to make a little profit on the news.
Hahaha yes this is why I cant buy more!This is the most impressive announcement in bitshares history so far... Why is the price falling? It's baffling.
Because the 5 of us who read it are broke!
Press links found here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17139.msg218950.html#msg218950
Peak Ventures Releases Found Here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17341.0.html
Thanks for the kind words Stan!
As you know, I have been working on making this deal happen for close to 7 months, and am glad to see it finally blossoming!
Press links found here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17139.msg218950.html#msg218950
Peak Ventures Releases Found Here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17341.0.html
Thanks for the kind words Stan!
As you know, I have been working on making this deal happen for close to 7 months, and am glad to see it finally blossoming!
Summer vacation?
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Press links found here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17139.msg218950.html#msg218950
Peak Ventures Releases Found Here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17341.0.html
Thanks for the kind words Stan!
As you know, I have been working on making this deal happen for close to 7 months, and am glad to see it finally blossoming!
Summer vacation?
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Press links found here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17139.msg218950.html#msg218950
Peak Ventures Releases Found Here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17341.0.html
Thanks for the kind words Stan!
As you know, I have been working on making this deal happen for close to 7 months, and am glad to see it finally blossoming!
Summer vacation?
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Newmine, I am all for freedom to express concerns, but if you continue to post libelous statements you will be banned.
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Newmine, I am all for freedom to express concerns, but if you continue to post libelous statements you will be banned.
Brain Page was a hard working honest guy who just happened to fail at a difficult task. We may not have liked all of his results, but without him we wouldn't have Max, I wouldn't have had speaking engagements at many conferences, etc.
Newmine, I am all for freedom to express concerns, but if you continue to post libelous statements you will be banned.
Woah, it's cool, we tease Newman too.
Woah, it's cool, we tease Newman too.
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/567914.jpg)
Woah, it's cool, we tease Newman too.
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/567914.jpg)
This has been my primary function for a year guys. I know you haven't heard about it much, I keep it to my self and a small group within the dev team, but it has been happening. Part out of necessity, part from flames and BS on the forum that I just do not have time for. People can debate and knock on each other all day long, I would rather focus on talking to CEO's of major companies and not waste precious time.
Some of these deals take 6 months to a year to get done. I have been on this for a year now. We have been talking to, educating, and working with others potential partners, some in major industries that provide backbone support for serious business.
I do not want to get your hopes up, so I refrain from saying anything until it is really done.
Don't spend the money til it is in your hands, or you WILL regret it.
Onward and upward.
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Brain Page was a hard working honest guy who just happened to fail at a difficult task. We may not have liked all of his results, but without him we wouldn't have Max, I wouldn't have had speaking engagements at many conferences, etc.
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Brain Page was a hard working honest guy who just happened to fail at a difficult task. We may not have liked all of his results, but without him we wouldn't have Max, I wouldn't have had speaking engagements at many conferences, etc.
+5% Absolutely!!
Pretty sure you have called people scammers. I remember the NuBits ponzi accusation,which to your credit you reneged on. Nonetheless it was still libel against Jordan Lee in the same essence. So if you ban me for that, make sure you ban yourself. But we all know that isn't the real reason you want to ban me. I'll let you decide. Remember their are bigger websites than this and I can still go there with more conviction if you force me to.Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Newmine, I am all for freedom to express concerns, but if you continue to post libelous statements you will be banned.
Brain Page was a hard working honest guy who just happened to fail at a difficult task. We may not have liked all of his results, but without him we wouldn't have Max, I wouldn't have had speaking engagements at many conferences, etc.
Pretty sure you have called people scammers. I remember the NuBits ponzi accusation,which to your credit you reneged on. Nonetheless it was still libel against Jordan Lee in the same essence. So if you ban me for that, make sure you ban yourself. But we all know that isn't the real reason you want to ban me. I'll let you decide. Remember their are bigger websites than this and I can still go there with more conviction if you force me to.Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Newmine, I am all for freedom to express concerns, but if you continue to post libelous statements you will be banned.
Brain Page was a hard working honest guy who just happened to fail at a difficult task. We may not have liked all of his results, but without him we wouldn't have Max, I wouldn't have had speaking engagements at many conferences, etc.
1. How old is Peak Venture Group?
2. How many start ups have you successfully incubated?
3. How much investment have you successfully helped to collect to the start ups you're helping?
4. Any known strategic partner/angel investor that has contact with you that you could disclose?
5. Any known or cool events you took your start-ups to?
6. Which start-ups you incubated could potentially use BitShares and how?
7. What about your eCommerce store, any revenues?
8. Are you part of an Incubator Network like The Startup Federation? So that you could share these news with them and reach more people, giving BitShares more exposure to the financial world? If not, are you planing/would you like to? If you do, would you share this with others or do you think you would loose the edge against the competition, meaning you would prefer not to share that info with them (or maybe just do it later). - All of this, assuming BitShares 2.0 runs smoothly.
Just came up with these now, still didn't read the articles fully to check if it answers to any of these questions so sorry if they do.
Weren't you the guy who was part of that scammer Brian Pages team? You must be the mastermind marketeer, especially with a handle like that. You make good choices. Keep it up murderistic!
Newmine, I am all for freedom to express concerns, but if you continue to post libelous statements you will be banned.
Brain Page was a hard working honest guy who just happened to fail at a difficult task. We may not have liked all of his results, but without him we wouldn't have Max, I wouldn't have had speaking engagements at many conferences, etc.
1. How old is Peak Venture Group?
2. How many start ups have you successfully incubated?
3. How much investment have you successfully helped to collect to the start ups you're helping?
4. Any known strategic partner/angel investor that has contact with you that you could disclose?
5. Any known or cool events you took your start-ups to?
6. Which start-ups you incubated could potentially use BitShares and how?
7. What about your eCommerce store, any revenues?
8. Are you part of an Incubator Network like The Startup Federation? So that you could share these news with them and reach more people, giving BitShares more exposure to the financial world? If not, are you planing/would you like to? If you do, would you share this with others or do you think you would loose the edge against the competition, meaning you would prefer not to share that info with them (or maybe just do it later). - All of this, assuming BitShares 2.0 runs smoothly.
Just came up with these now, still didn't read the articles fully to check if it answers to any of these questions so sorry if they do.
Don't want to get this lost in all the spam...
1. How old is Peak Venture Group?
2. How many start ups have you successfully incubated?
3. How much investment have you successfully helped to collect to the start ups you're helping?
4. Any known strategic partner/angel investor that has contact with you that you could disclose?
5. Any known or cool events you took your start-ups to?
6. Which start-ups you incubated could potentially use BitShares and how?
7. What about your eCommerce store, any revenues?
8. Are you part of an Incubator Network like The Startup Federation? So that you could share these news with them and reach more people, giving BitShares more exposure to the financial world? If not, are you planing/would you like to? If you do, would you share this with others or do you think you would loose the edge against the competition, meaning you would prefer not to share that info with them (or maybe just do it later). - All of this, assuming BitShares 2.0 runs smoothly.
Just came up with these now, still didn't read the articles fully to check if it answers to any of these questions so sorry if they do.
Don't want to get this lost in all the spam...
+5%
I'll pump this everyday till someone gives me an aswer. I don't like being ignored. Specially when someone who joins BitShares doesn't even introduce themselves. It's the minimum they could do. It takes 5m
I'll pump this everyday till someone gives me an aswer. I don't like being ignored. Specially when someone who joins BitShares doesn't even introduce themselves. It's the minimum they could do. It takes 5m
We have invited them to drop by and introduce themselves.
Until they do, how will they see your bumps?
We are lucky to get new partners who delight in interacting here. But each has its own style and priorities.
Not every one of them may consider reading posts on crypto forums a good use of their time or feel obligated to answer a bunch of questions about their business.
Each of these new relationships takes time to develop.
Right now we're more focused on figuring out the best ways to work with each other and where both busy management teams are going to find the time to do so.
To be fair this announcement happened over 4th of july weekend, they probably are away from work for a bit.
Hopefully they will come answer questions next week when they are back in the office.
I'll pump this everyday till someone gives me an aswer. I don't like being ignored. Specially when someone who joins BitShares doesn't even introduce themselves. It's the minimum they could do. It takes 5m
We have invited them to drop by and introduce themselves.
Until they do, how will they see your bumps?
We are lucky to get new partners who delight in interacting here. But each has its own style and priorities.
Not every one of them may consider reading posts on crypto forums a good use of their time or feel obligated to answer a bunch of questions about their business.
Each of these new relationships takes time to develop.
Right now we're more focused on figuring out the best ways to work with each other and where both busy management teams are going to find the time to do so.
Stan, if a business joins BitShares, stakeholders should know if that said business will benefit BitShares and how it will achieve that, at least during these times which we can call the beginning of BitShares. That kind of stuff is important. Otherwise there is no point on announcing this kind of stuff. I didn't obligate anyone to answer questions related to their business. I asked those questions, they're free to answer to them as they see fit, however you're overlooking the fact that a simple crypto forum is one of the few methods of communication of this community. As simple as it seems, as bad as some forums might be, the BitShares forum is still an important place to discuss stuff and if a business joins BitShares but doesn't communicate with the community (I know it has been a short time since the announcement, see my reply to Ander below), how should the community react if the community doesn't even know what does this partnership mean? People need to communicate somehow. What I mean is, the community needs to be informed enough to decide whether to support this or not.
The problem with "Not every one of them may consider reading posts on crypto forums a good use of their time or feel obligated to answer a bunch of questions about their business." is they might not get community support because of that.To be fair this announcement happened over 4th of july weekend, they probably are away from work for a bit.
Hopefully they will come answer questions next week when they are back in the office.
I admit I didn't notice that so I'm sorry if I sounded too harsh. Completely forgot about that.
I'll pump this everyday till someone gives me an aswer. I don't like being ignored. Specially when someone who joins BitShares doesn't even introduce themselves. It's the minimum they could do. It takes 5m
We have invited them to drop by and introduce themselves.
Until they do, how will they see your bumps?
We are lucky to get new partners who delight in interacting here. But each has its own style and priorities.
Not every one of them may consider reading posts on crypto forums a good use of their time or feel obligated to answer a bunch of questions about their business.
Each of these new relationships takes time to develop.
Right now we're more focused on figuring out the best ways to work with each other and where both busy management teams are going to find the time to do so.
Stan, if a business joins BitShares, stakeholders should know if that said business will benefit BitShares and how it will achieve that, at least during these times which we can call the beginning of BitShares. That kind of stuff is important. Otherwise there is no point on announcing this kind of stuff. I didn't obligate anyone to answer questions related to their business. I asked those questions, they're free to answer to them as they see fit, however you're overlooking the fact that a simple crypto forum is one of the few methods of communication of this community. As simple as it seems, as bad as some forums might be, the BitShares forum is still an important place to discuss stuff and if a business joins BitShares but doesn't communicate with the community (I know it has been a short time since the announcement, see my reply to Ander below), how should the community react if the community doesn't even know what does this partnership mean? People need to communicate somehow. What I mean is, the community needs to be informed enough to decide whether to support this or not.
The problem with "Not every one of them may consider reading posts on crypto forums a good use of their time or feel obligated to answer a bunch of questions about their business." is they might not get community support because of that.To be fair this announcement happened over 4th of july weekend, they probably are away from work for a bit.
Hopefully they will come answer questions next week when they are back in the office.
I admit I didn't notice that so I'm sorry if I sounded too harsh. Completely forgot about that.
As the original press release stated, they plan a "Part 2" later this month. Hopefully that will give you more insights. Some companies prefer to communicate only through formal press releases. Perhaps that's how they see it.
There is a big contingent of our supporters that have long lobbied for us to take that approach. :)
Anyhow, let's see how the next announcement goes. Perhaps they will weave some of your topics into their formal output pipeline.
Or maybe they still plan to come here when they get a moment.
I have forwarded your questions to them.
Stan, if a business joins BitShares, stakeholders should know if that said business will benefit BitShares and how it will achieve that, at least during these times which we can call the beginning of BitShares. That kind of stuff is important. What I mean is, the community needs to be informed enough to decide whether to support this or not.It's their business to decide what they do or do not want to tell bts members.
The problem with "Not every one of them may consider reading posts on crypto forums a good use of their time or feel obligated to answer a bunch of questions about their business." is they might not get community support because of that.
they might not get community support because of that.yes, this is true. There may be value in getting bts members on their good side, but if you don't like them; don't buy their products.
I see Bitshares like the internet of finance. It should remain neutral and no one should ask permission to participate.This!
I see Bitshares like the internet of finance. It should remain neutral and no one should ask permission to participate.This!
+5%I see Bitshares like the internet of finance. It should remain neutral and no one should ask permission to participate.This!
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Though people want to hear more from some partners, it just may not happen as you are really pushing for. Some are out there running their business in a different manner, do not really talk on forums, etc. There are many types of businesses, and many models, theirs works for them without the interaction, etc. As a few others have said, it doesn't matter if we hear from every partner.
When coding in Java, etc - do the devs and Java community expect everyone that uses their technology to report in, etc? No.
What I was trying to convey earlier was that consumers need not know that this game company has switched to blockchain tech. For them they may not know for a while, or ever. That should be ok with us. If they want to educate their users about how they are securing their assets, securing their data, etc that is for them to decide. Being able to work with partners and integrate into different types of business outside of the crypto community is the key to mainstream, not focusing on those that understand it, or it's values.
Max, Stan and crew all worked on this quite a bit over the last several months, and all deserve praise on this. It will be really awesome to see a real business outside of the crypto world with revenues using BitShares to secure their business.
Though people want to hear more from some partners, it just may not happen as you are really pushing for. Some are out there running their business in a different manner, do not really talk on forums, etc. There are many types of businesses, and many models, theirs works for them without the interaction, etc. As a few others have said, it doesn't matter if we hear from every partner.
When coding in Java, etc - do the devs and Java community expect everyone that uses their technology to report in, etc? No.
What I was trying to convey earlier was that consumers need not know that this game company has switched to blockchain tech. For them they may not know for a while, or ever. That should be ok with us. If they want to educate their users about how they are securing their assets, securing their data, etc that is for them to decide. Being able to work with partners and integrate into different types of business outside of the crypto community is the key to mainstream, not focusing on those that understand it, or it's values.
Max, Stan and crew all worked on this quite a bit over the last several months, and all deserve praise on this. It will be really awesome to see a real business outside of the crypto world with revenues using BitShares to secure their business.
So the shareholder of the project has no right to know who is jumping on board, what their intentions, objectives, incentives, and experience/qualifications are?
Do you see how fast this project is moving away from decentralized with Cryptonomex in control? This is a clear example the Cryptonomex is doing what they think is best for Cryptonomex?
Sorry, but you guys need the crypto community to embrace this first. Decentralized is a core ideal that gave birth to the blockchain. You can tell me all day Cryptonomex won't have control and will work for free for Bitshares despite the opposite being said, but the more centralized you are the harder mass adoption will be.
I think this project, with DPOS and the large stakes held by I3 people put the project very close to the decentralized side of the decentralized/centralized event horizon. With Cryptonomex licensing code for profit, I think you will find the project crossing that threshold and will eventually never see the true light of day, which is Mass Adoption. And sadly, mass adoption starts within the crypto community. Joe Schmo isn't going to leave Wells Fargo for Cryptonomex BitShares. I imagine that pitch is somewhat similar to Diner Club salesmen trying to get you to switch from a Visa. -Hey Joe why don't you try a Diners Club card? You can use it at 50 different restaurants world wide. -Uh, I can use my Visa at every restaurant, no thanks.
I3 was supposed to release control over the past year and they half assedly did, but even then no one saw or said there would be a problem with an open, free license such as a MIT. It wasn't until Devs making money and walking away (with their huge stakes) became a factor that all of a sudden licenses were needed so no one could steal the code and profit off it elsewhere. BM still never answered my question in another thread about did I3 specify that they would work X amount of hours for Y amount of AGS or was it clearly implied that Bitshares would be delivered regardless of how much money was given?
Remember, Satoshi left Bitcoin core and it's done quite alright and finds a way.
Or maybe your amusement is more important than what is being acheived here ? Is it ?
10 years from now you'll be lucky if you still have a biz.
Everybody we explain this to loves the idea of joining this network. Exchanges are just the obvious first industry, but anyone with a big user base can find an angle to sign them up and earn a chunk of their lifetime fees.+5% +5% +5%
Go out into the world and bring us more such leads from every nation, tribe, and industry.
It practically sells itself.
:)
See, Théoden, here is a snake! To slay it would be just. But it was not always as it now is. Once it was a man, and it did you service in its fashion.—Gandalf, The Two Towers
Khan: No... no... you won't get away! To the last, I will grapple with thee... from Hell's heart, I stab at thee! For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!
Though people want to hear more from some partners, it just may not happen as you are really pushing for. Some are out there running their business in a different manner, do not really talk on forums, etc. There are many types of businesses, and many models, theirs works for them without the interaction, etc. As a few others have said, it doesn't matter if we hear from every partner.
When coding in Java, etc - do the devs and Java community expect everyone that uses their technology to report in, etc? No.
What I was trying to convey earlier was that consumers need not know that this game company has switched to blockchain tech. For them they may not know for a while, or ever. That should be ok with us. If they want to educate their users about how they are securing their assets, securing their data, etc that is for them to decide. Being able to work with partners and integrate into different types of business outside of the crypto community is the key to mainstream, not focusing on those that understand it, or it's values.
Max, Stan and crew all worked on this quite a bit over the last several months, and all deserve praise on this. It will be really awesome to see a real business outside of the crypto world with revenues using BitShares to secure their business.
So the shareholder of the project has no right to know who is jumping on board, what their intentions, objectives, incentives, and experience/qualifications are?
Do you see how fast this project is moving away from decentralized with Cryptonomex in control? This is a clear example the Cryptonomex is doing what they think is best for Cryptonomex?
Sorry, but you guys need the crypto community to embrace this first. Decentralized is a core ideal that gave birth to the blockchain. You can tell me all day Cryptonomex won't have control and will work for free for Bitshares despite the opposite being said, but the more centralized you are the harder mass adoption will be.
I think this project, with DPOS and the large stakes held by I3 people put the project very close to the decentralized side of the decentralized/centralized event horizon. With Cryptonomex licensing code for profit, I think you will find the project crossing that threshold and will eventually never see the true light of day, which is Mass Adoption. And sadly, mass adoption starts within the crypto community. Joe Schmo isn't going to leave Wells Fargo for Cryptonomex Bitshares. I imagine that pitch is somewhat similar to Diner Club salesmen trying to get you to switch from a Visa. -Hey Joe why don't you try a Diners Club card? You can use it at 50 different restaurants world wide. -Uh, I can use my Visa at every restaurant, no thanks.
I3 was supposed to release control over the past year and they half assedly did, but even then no one saw or said there would be a problem with an open, free license such as a MIT. It wasn't until Devs making money and walking away (with their huge stakes) became a factor that all of a sudden licenses were needed so no one could steal the code and profit off it elsewhere. BM still never answered my question in another thread about did I3 specify that they would work X amount of hours for Y amount of AGS or was it clearly implied that Bitshares would be delivered regardless of how much money was given?
Remember, Satoshi left Bitcoin core and it's done quite alright and finds a way.
Silly rabbit!
It's a decentralized system. Anybody can jump on board. They don't need our permission.
Or maybe your amusement is more important than what is being acheived here ? Is it ?
Try this for less daily frustration : Correlate Newmine's post with the price chart, notice trend, start profiting, stop complaining. ;)
Or just continue doing what 99.5% do and react emotionally. Personally, I'd rather profit and Newmine is the best tool I've found.
Anyone looking to make use of Bitcoin, please ask Satoshi first. Thats the decentralized way
Though people want to hear more from some partners, it just may not happen as you are really pushing for. Some are out there running their business in a different manner, do not really talk on forums, etc. There are many types of businesses, and many models, theirs works for them without the interaction, etc. As a few others have said, it doesn't matter if we hear from every partner.
When coding in Java, etc - do the devs and Java community expect everyone that uses their technology to report in, etc? No.
What I was trying to convey earlier was that consumers need not know that this game company has switched to blockchain tech. For them they may not know for a while, or ever. That should be ok with us. If they want to educate their users about how they are securing their assets, securing their data, etc that is for them to decide. Being able to work with partners and integrate into different types of business outside of the crypto community is the key to mainstream, not focusing on those that understand it, or it's values.
Max, Stan and crew all worked on this quite a bit over the last several months, and all deserve praise on this. It will be really awesome to see a real business outside of the crypto world with revenues using BitShares to secure their business.
So the shareholder of the project has no right to know who is jumping on board, what their intentions, objectives, incentives, and experience/qualifications are?
Do you see how fast this project is moving away from decentralized with Cryptonomex in control? This is a clear example the Cryptonomex is doing what they think is best for Cryptonomex?
Sorry, but you guys need the crypto community to embrace this first. Decentralized is a core ideal that gave birth to the blockchain. You can tell me all day Cryptonomex won't have control and will work for free for Bitshares despite the opposite being said, but the more centralized you are the harder mass adoption will be.
I think this project, with DPOS and the large stakes held by I3 people put the project very close to the decentralized side of the decentralized/centralized event horizon. With Cryptonomex licensing code for profit, I think you will find the project crossing that threshold and will eventually never see the true light of day, which is Mass Adoption. And sadly, mass adoption starts within the crypto community. Joe Schmo isn't going to leave Wells Fargo for Cryptonomex Bitshares. I imagine that pitch is somewhat similar to Diner Club salesmen trying to get you to switch from a Visa. -Hey Joe why don't you try a Diners Club card? You can use it at 50 different restaurants world wide. -Uh, I can use my Visa at every restaurant, no thanks.
I3 was supposed to release control over the past year and they half assedly did, but even then no one saw or said there would be a problem with an open, free license such as a MIT. It wasn't until Devs making money and walking away (with their huge stakes) became a factor that all of a sudden licenses were needed so no one could steal the code and profit off it elsewhere. BM still never answered my question in another thread about did I3 specify that they would work X amount of hours for Y amount of AGS or was it clearly implied that Bitshares would be delivered regardless of how much money was given?
Remember, Satoshi left Bitcoin core and it's done quite alright and finds a way.
I disagree fully. Look at Abra goabra.com or Xoom. Paypal is going to get into remittance through Xoom using cryptos from Braintree - Abrra has a dreamteam doing it via blockchain (bitcoin but oh well).
And adoption will happen not because people understand the technology, but because it comes in a familiar for, like an app they already use or is intuitive.
If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry ;)
dead project,no news since july.liar stan.
Haha .. translation : but that pile of turd is rich in minerals.dead project,no news since july.liar stan.
I really enjoy and look forward to your comments krills. They are deliciously simple, despicably rude and utterly devoid of context. Given that they are absolutely pointless, I can only assume you are a comedic genius dedicated to lifting our spirits. Delightful.
dead project,no news since july.liar stan.
dead project,no news since july.liar stan.
Rome wasn't built in six weeks, pal.
This stuff doesn't happen overnight.
This stuff doesn't happen overnight.
Maidsafe, nuff said.
http://www.xanadu.com/
Checkmate
As the original press release stated, they plan a "Part 2" later this month.I just want to know where the Part 2 is.
As the original press release stated, they plan a "Part 2" later this month.I just want to know where the Part 2 is.
It‘s been a long wait.As the original press release stated, they plan a "Part 2" later this month.I just want to know where the Part 2 is.
So do I. :)
I spent 90 minutes on the phone with their CEO a few nights ago and I know he still has multiple big plans involving BitShares. Like most people, he will announce things when he has his ducks in a row.(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWNnE9v0S8q_0AJoJAvUTpSrEDIEgqXJokwjTEPZkbeyZiPKdB)
It‘s been a long wait.As the original press release stated, they plan a "Part 2" later this month.I just want to know where the Part 2 is.
So do I. :)
I spent 90 minutes on the phone with their CEO a few nights ago and I know he still has multiple big plans involving BitShares. Like most people, he will announce things when he has his ducks in a row.(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWNnE9v0S8q_0AJoJAvUTpSrEDIEgqXJokwjTEPZkbeyZiPKdB)
First in June2015,now 1Q16… hehehe.It‘s been a long wait.As the original press release stated, they plan a "Part 2" later this month.I just want to know where the Part 2 is.
So do I. :)
I spent 90 minutes on the phone with their CEO a few nights ago and I know he still has multiple big plans involving BitShares. Like most people, he will announce things when he has his ducks in a row.(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWNnE9v0S8q_0AJoJAvUTpSrEDIEgqXJokwjTEPZkbeyZiPKdB)
Depends on your time scale, but yes. They've run into some unfortunate disruptions that they are working to recover from. Stuff happens.
I've talked to their CEO several times this week. Still excited about what he's got planned, but it's not the same plan he had in June. I'd say they have slipped a number of months at this point. Check back in 1Q16.
Truly, I learn something new every day. From the Urban Dictionary:
lzr
Meant to be used to substitute the word "loser". Not to be confused with "laser".
Example: Paul is a stupid person. However, Kimberly does not think he is a lzr.
Truly, I learn something new every day. From the Urban Dictionary:侮辱 呵呵
lzr
Meant to be used to substitute the word "loser". Not to be confused with "laser".
Example: Paul is a stupid person. However, Kimberly does not think he is a lzr.
Truly, I learn something new every day. From the Urban Dictionary:侮辱 呵呵
lzr
Meant to be used to substitute the word "loser". Not to be confused with "laser".
Example: Paul is a stupid person. However, Kimberly does not think he is a lzr.
It would be nice if there were some more specifics. Everything about the announcement was so vague that I doubt many people were using it as a valuation metric for bts. It could really boost the price of bts if the problems were described more clearly and how peak plans to use/implement bts.
It would be nice if there were some more specifics. Everything about the announcement was so vague that I doubt many people were using it as a valuation metric for bts. It could really boost the price of bts if the problems were described more clearly and how peak plans to use/implement bts.
It would be nice if there were some more specifics. Everything about the announcement was so vague that I doubt many people were using it as a valuation metric for bts. It could really boost the price of bts if the problems were described more clearly and how peak plans to use/implement bts.
Well at 2200 sat, BTS is currently valued with no partners and delayed or on time launch but with extremely buggy client.
No? You find 13 Mil to reflect a single partner or working 2.0 platform? :)
Tragic. What a strain on credibility
Tragic. What a strain on credibility
In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.
You just pivot and carry on.
Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.
To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.
To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.
Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.
Tragic. What a strain on credibility
In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.
You just pivot and carry on.
Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.
To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.
To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.
Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.
Horsefeathers. He has literally informed the community of developments as they have happened once he has been given liberty to do so. He is not then responsible for all the businesses that have shown an interest, nor the manner or timescale in which they execute their BitShares implementation. Stan is busy, along with many others, reaching out and forming partnerships that will sustain Cryptonomex and grow BitShares. This is precisely what BitShares needs. Any reasonable person would understand this and would be interested in learning of promising partnerships in development. If they succeed or adapt or fail is not down to Stan or anyone reaching out. What's important is the strategy and the direction.....there are people making the right things happen and if only some of them succeed, well a pebble can start an avalanche.Tragic. What a strain on credibility
In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.
You just pivot and carry on.
Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.
To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.
To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.
Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.
Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.
To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.
To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.
Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.
To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.
Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.
To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.
Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum
Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.
To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.
Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum
Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.
To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.
Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum
Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?
Not shooting from the hip... I would not invest in any company that takes advice from an online forum. Do you notice how bytemaster doesn't respond to whiney members of this community?
Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.
And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.
To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.
Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum
Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?
Not shooting from the hip... I would not invest in any company that takes advice from an online forum. Do you notice how bytemaster doesn't respond to whiney members of this community?
Bytemaster has always taken valid criticism seriously. He has changed his original plan on more than one occasion after receiving community feedback.
What are you talking about?
Horsefeathers. He has literally informed the community of developments as they have happened once he has been given liberty to do so. He is not then responsible for all the businesses that have shown an interest, nor the manner or timescale in which they execute their BitShares implementation. Stan is busy, along with many others, reaching out and forming partnerships that will sustain Cryptonomex and grow BitShares. This is precisely what BitShares needs. Any reasonable person would understand this and would be interested in learning of promising partnerships in development. If they succeed or adapt or fail is not down to Stan or anyone reaching out. What's important is the strategy and the direction.....there are people making the right things happen and if only some of them succeed, well a pebble can start an avalanche.Tragic. What a strain on credibility
In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.
You just pivot and carry on.
Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.
To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.
To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.
Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.
Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.
Horsefeathers. He has literally informed the community of developments as they have happened once he has been given liberty to do so. He is not then responsible for all the businesses that have shown an interest, nor the manner or timescale in which they execute their BitShares implementation. Stan is busy, along with many others, reaching out and forming partnerships that will sustain Cryptonomex and grow BitShares. This is precisely what BitShares needs. Any reasonable person would understand this and would be interested in learning of promising partnerships in development. If they succeed or adapt or fail is not down to Stan or anyone reaching out. What's important is the strategy and the direction.....there are people making the right things happen and if only some of them succeed, well a pebble can start an avalanche.Tragic. What a strain on credibility
In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.
You just pivot and carry on.
Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.
To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.
To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.
Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.
Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.
Yes, of course Ben - to everything you said. I just think his hyperbole is over the top and I personally don't find it very persuasive. Hopefully I'm eating crow in a few months.
Sorry I had to edit this post since I posted in the wrong thread. Stan can't be responsible for problems and business partners situations really to expect that would not be fairHorsefeathers. He has literally informed the community of developments as they have happened once he has been given liberty to do so. He is not then responsible for all the businesses that have shown an interest, nor the manner or timescale in which they execute their BitShares implementation. Stan is busy, along with many others, reaching out and forming partnerships that will sustain Cryptonomex and grow BitShares. This is precisely what BitShares needs. Any reasonable person would understand this and would be interested in learning of promising partnerships in development. If they succeed or adapt or fail is not down to Stan or anyone reaching out. What's important is the strategy and the direction.....there are people making the right things happen and if only some of them succeed, well a pebble can start an avalanche.Tragic. What a strain on credibility
In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.
You just pivot and carry on.
Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.
To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.
To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.
Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.
Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.
Yes, of course Ben - to everything you said. I just think his hyperbole is over the top and I personally don't find it very persuasive. Hopefully I'm eating crow in a few months.
Of course, I could keep all this stuff secret and be accused of insider trading...
You are free to research each announcement and make of them what you will.
I'm saying real businesses don't make business decisions based on forums...
I'm saying real businesses don't make business decisions based on forums...
Given:
Cryptonomex is a real business.
It makes decisions capitalizing on insights gained in this forum.
Therefore:
Real businesses do make business decisions based on forums.
Q.E.D. :)
(We also have hired most of our staff based on relationships that began here.)
Stan can't be responsible for problems and business partners situations really to expect that would not be fair
Here is my take on it. Everybody here seems to be so intent on hearing the latest news and grilling the inner development team and inner consulting circle about what's next and why isn't this happening and when is this going to happen and why aren't we doing this.Stan can't be responsible for problems and business partners situations really to expect that would not be fair
Someone who expects every lead to materialize and every third party to deliver on its promises clearly has no experience with startups. That isn't how things work in business. You're lucky if 1 in 10 of these things ever develops. Kudos to Stan and the team for continuing to keep us in the loop.
Here is my take on it. Everybody here seems to be so intent on hearing the latest news and grilling the inner development team and inner consulting circle about what's next and why isn't this happening and when is this going to happen and why aren't we doing this.Stan can't be responsible for problems and business partners situations really to expect that would not be fair
Someone who expects every lead to materialize and every third party to deliver on its promises clearly has no experience with startups. That isn't how things work in business. You're lucky if 1 in 10 of these things ever develops. Kudos to Stan and the team for continuing to keep us in the loop.
Then when they try to include members in the loop or help with decision making process or getting your assistance with various things, I see people complain.
It must be a really difficult position for them to be in, and I do not envy them.
If you truly care about the project and where we're going, you don't have to agree with everything but I would say that people should really strive to bring value and positivity and assist however they can in making that dream come true.
Don't forget trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent ;)
WEBELOS!
i'm afraid I didn't make it into the shower this morning so I hope cleanish is acceptable for today.....
i'm afraid I didn't make it into the shower this morning so I hope cleanish is acceptable for today.....
LOL - i welcome you to the world of the workaholic and my stinky never-gets-laid clan. ;)
Someone who expects every lead to materialize and every third party to deliver on its promises clearly has no experience with startups. That isn't how things work in business. You're lucky if 1 in 10 of these things ever develops. Kudos to Stan and the team for continuing to keep us in the loop.
@StanWhy @Stan didn't answer me?
This project still process??or dead?