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Looking forward to seeing this develop. I listened in on all sessions in mumble about this and the prospects are awesome. If you need a distribution center in Canada or for North America, the bunker has 64,000 sq/ft of space, much of which is currently available. Guarantee you no other distribution center will offer you EMP shielding for your components the way we can.
Quote from: d3adh3ad on January 24, 2015, 11:57:26 pmWhy would you say the word fork? Bad way to start off.Agreed, I don't see anything here that involves "forking"...?
Why would you say the word fork? Bad way to start off.
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Novena is awesome! Just going to drop this here: http://www.bunniestudios.com/Maybe we can get bunnie to colab on this? I have no contacts personally just like to read about OS hardware stuff once in a while.
It was good to chat briefly on the mumble session, and hear about your vision.I am a huge advocate of open source hardware and it seems incredible to have allies such as you in the field! I have been following the work at Studio Kosagi: http://www.kosagi.com/ The Novena laptop in particular, quite a feat. I'm sure you must be familiar... another talented crew to collaborate with.Everything else has mostly been said. I agree with fuzz that the importance of building a foundation on open hardware is key to our long term survival, and I see it as a huge priority.And this...Quote from: Riverhead on January 24, 2015, 04:08:36 pmThe possibilities are endless once you're willing to commit code to metal.Let's explore those possibilities!
The possibilities are endless once you're willing to commit code to metal.
Also, I would love to see a hardware solution for merchants to accept BitAssets!If we still talking about working with any card processors, can we patch together a working POS system?Something which allows people be able to 'charge' their own cards from a mobile wallet on their smart phone, a la Square, and be able to go out and spend those funds in their community where BitAssets are accepted.This would be massively helpful in terms of grassroots adoption imo.If there were a solution like this then we could raise a small army to work on merchant adoption with the knowledge that a solid system was in place to provide them with the tools they need. I realize this is a huge undertaking and beyond hardware alone.I suppose ElMato would be the one to work with on this once the mobile wallet is stable.
Okay-- I'll put it another way-- Dawn plans to be 100% Libre in the GNU fashion about everything. When we have to use closed components, we will work to eliminate them in future versions. We know all too well that Open Source != Gratis. Our intent with using the phrase Open Source is to signal to people that our code, etc are available and to let users know that they can and should participate in the production of both the hardware and software. To those who were talking about adding value re: a delegate-- yes, that's our intent. I could have hardware wallets in people's hands lightning-fast. I will only need some info from people here as to how they should be configured & what UX should be like. My offer of a forum was totally legit-- just say the word and I can have shiny discourse up and set for you all. I do need to look at what the migration would be like, though....Dawn is not a DAC yet. Dawn is a DAC startup, a proto-DAC, an organization with aspirations of DAC-hood. Excuse my overstatement.
Uh, I think I am using your forum for its intended purpose:Collaboration. Your forum code-- the software running the forum-- it basically sucks. Sorry, but that's the bottom line. I'm totally not trying to rag on the community here, though-- community is killer!
Quote from: fuzzy on January 24, 2015, 03:13:38 pmQuote from: Rune on January 24, 2015, 03:00:28 pmIf you want to get the support (and subsidy through a delegate) of the bitshares community, you have to offer something that will be useful to us right now, most likely a hardware wallet. All the other ideas can come later, at first you need to offer something of immediate value.Also issuing your stock on the bitshares blockchain is fine even if you're not a DAC. You just need to do KYC and whitelisting.Fenix will be the hardware wallet. I searched and only finds things related to a btc miner named phoenix? could you provide a link please?
Quote from: Rune on January 24, 2015, 03:00:28 pmIf you want to get the support (and subsidy through a delegate) of the bitshares community, you have to offer something that will be useful to us right now, most likely a hardware wallet. All the other ideas can come later, at first you need to offer something of immediate value.Also issuing your stock on the bitshares blockchain is fine even if you're not a DAC. You just need to do KYC and whitelisting.Fenix will be the hardware wallet.
If you want to get the support (and subsidy through a delegate) of the bitshares community, you have to offer something that will be useful to us right now, most likely a hardware wallet. All the other ideas can come later, at first you need to offer something of immediate value.Also issuing your stock on the bitshares blockchain is fine even if you're not a DAC. You just need to do KYC and whitelisting.
More importantly BitShares is public domain software. I am being pedantic because if we're going to be living in this space we need to get our paradigm straight. Open source simply means the authors/owners are willing to show people the code and perhaps compile it themselves. It does not mean that it is free or open to community development. Open source software can have a number of different types of licenses attached to it. For example GNU source code is treated differently than Public Domain.My concern is the perception that "Open Source" = "Free". If we want more people to open their source up for all to see we need to respect the license they have chosen.Welcome Dawn. Was great chatting with you on the Mumble. I'm excited to see some of the features implemented in hardware. For example a big pain point we have now is indexing. If a hardware solution could optimize that it would be a huge win. The possibilities are endless once you're willing to commit code to metal.
You have it about right (for now). Who knows where this will go in the future, but if it starts here we are looking at even more positive PR associated with our project and if they accept bitAssets (as they plan on doing) we are looking at bringing a lot of people to our ecosystem. If they are making money from a delegate, they are then able afford to offer discounts to those who pay with things like bitUSD. We really need to do this...I can't express the important of them getting paid by BitShares...Quote from: sumantso on January 24, 2015, 03:39:26 pmhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8TLMCrZLbx3M2hrM3pnY0Z6dUU/viewI caught the first 15-20 minutes, and I am still confused what is it supposed to do for BitShares and why is this being called forking.Welcome Dawn! I listened to the mumble session where you introduced your project and it is a great project! Looking forward to it!As I see it: Dawn would be a "normal company", not a DAC in the sense as BitShares or Bitcoin is a DAC. I define a system as a DAC that provides a "ledger based service" (updating account balances, (money), trading/exchange/bank, issuing lottery tickets etc.). The service Dawn wants to offer to customers is not a ledger based service (selling hardware). What Dawn wants (as far as I understood it) is to manage their company based on a public ledger (including: assign property/shareholder rights, sherholder voting, paying dividens etc.). They could do this in two ways: (1) Fork Bitshares to "Dawnshares" so that the native tokens of this DAC (Downshares) would represent the shares in the Dawn business (selling hardware). (2) Issue a User Issued Asset and give it to the shareholders of the Dawn company. (1) would be a lot of effort and has no advantages as I see it. BM mentioned one I can not recall right now. (2) would be much more cost effective, would provide much more liquidity / more exposure to users of BitShares. @faddat: Here are two articles about what the term DAC describes: http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/DAC/Crypto-Equity_Analysis_under_the_DAC_metaphorhttps://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=3901.0The term "DAC" was inteded as an analogy to describe and analyze "crypto currencies" like Bitcoin (and BitShares).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8TLMCrZLbx3M2hrM3pnY0Z6dUU/viewI caught the first 15-20 minutes, and I am still confused what is it supposed to do for BitShares and why is this being called forking.
Welcome faddat and Dawn!Have you already planned the software side of your mesh networking support for Mammoth, or are you just planning to handle the hardware and make it capable of supporting any of the existing software projects?Are you considering moving your stakeholder involvement platform to BitShares?fuzzy, is the last mumble recording posted anywhere yet?
Dawn is a DAC dedicated to the goal of improving the world through technology. We make open hardware and software, and support them with services. We've much bigger plans than that, though, and I hope that you and others on this forum will get to be a part of that. Here's our 1-year:https://www.icloud.com/pages/AwBWCAESEDEArRhp07qAQzyUX35J3RYaKq4Cs5B2PyOQ26G9ikeKh_51C2q0toR7LjbAdGp_AgbdR_TdWJr-05FzFwMCUCAQEEIJP7_hH1QDFHQeZbxxoX0HKbB_x4CHVWcUP5WDqgmngD#DawnWe are hoping to accomplish many really huge dreams:Open Farm RoboticsOpen Jet airlinerOpen Personal computing devices:MiniPCLaptopTabletRouterAnd much, much more! itdawns.org is the URL....
What is Dawn ? I haven't had a chance to listen to the mumble hangout ?