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连我 甘少 都对BTS失望了,可想而知社区的人都是被自己害挂的,再者就是BTS团队的不努力造成的。

排名不断的下跌,其它币不断的超上去,归根到底就是还没有取消黑天鹅的原因,本来这是一个很快解决的事情,结果拖啊拖,根本就不作为。拖到死了为止都不改成。

我提过的这么多方案却根本就没有团队去理,我失望了,我转战场了,我去混曾经最垃圾的LTC去了。

失望归失望,但黑天鹅已经等于实质上取消了啊。

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27753.msg327413#msg327413

bitCNY的黑天鹅保护方案已经投票通过,而且已经实施了啊。bitUSD等复活以后也会进行投票实施黑天鹅保护。

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just for information.
up to now the poll voting result:

                           poll worker proposal                                                   votes
1.14.160: Poll-BSIP58-Global Settlement Protection on bitCNY                  345M

1.14.161: Poll-BSIP58-No Global Settlement Protection on bitCNY              0

the stakeholders approved to implement BSIP58 on bitCNY.

every witness, please check and confirm the implementation of BSIP58 on bitCNY.

783
中文 (Chinese) / Re: 重启公市基金?
« on: February 11, 2019, 03:43:03 pm »
2.你的意思6月份分叉后mcr不通过见证人喂了?有程序自动执行?

通过见证人喂,目前有一个bug导致MCR事实上不能改动,6月硬分叉会修好这个bug。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 重启公市基金?
« on: February 11, 2019, 10:35:09 am »
可能需要细节处理,比如爆仓单的抵押率到多少可以吃,比如到120%?

千分之五的折扣太低了,很大概率会形成变相的爆仓单效应。

不太建议基金做抵押,很大概率会成为一个坑。

有爆仓单挂着就可以下单,挂买单而已,不一定是直接吃爆仓单。

折扣大于千五才可以卖,不是必须卖,也不是砸盘。

基金账户积累了BTS,在bitCNY最短缺的时候却只是守着不去主动创造bitCNY,真的好吗?

785
中文 (Chinese) / Re: 重启公市基金?
« on: February 11, 2019, 06:04:28 am »
建议先复活BitUSD吧!不然黑天鹅价0.0511USD/BTS就是强大的上升阻力!

复活3部曲:
1. Collected market fee convert from BitUSD to BTS via Settle in UI.
2. Then BTS can used to bids for the collateral in the settlement fund.
3. Once BitUSD revived, market fee used to decrease debt position until zero.

价格0.039的时候谈阻力是0.0511为时尚早。
等价格到了,自然会有大量的bitUSD冒出来清算。
现在这点market fee 收入,对于1亿BTS的settle pool根本是杯水车薪。


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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 重启公市基金?
« on: February 11, 2019, 04:01:27 am »
建议向CTS学习,在代码里写死喂价不能低于买单价吧。

BSIP42带来了很多教训,BTS不可能再次踏入同一个坑。

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支持调整MSSR的,有时间去https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/140发表点意见吧。

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中文 (Chinese) / 重启公市基金?
« on: February 11, 2019, 03:48:34 am »
目前bitCNY可预期的改革有:

1.继续降低MSSR,先从1.05降到1.02,不排除之后再进一步降低。

2.等到6月份分叉后改MCR,就算暂时不搞比较复杂的动态调整,也可以先通过投票达成共识然后要求见证人修改的方式先降低,预期降到1.5左右。

同时,感觉可以重新梳理下共识基金的规则重新开始运作。

设想的更新后的公市基金规则:

1.不再用worker proposal获取预算资金,只使用bitCNY market fee不断积累的资金。

2.只有当市场有吃不掉的爆仓单时,才可以挂单购买BTS。

3.只有当bitCNY有大于0.5%的折扣时,才可以挂单卖出BTS.

4.基金可以抵押借出bitCNY,原则是爆仓价不高于当前的全局清算价,当基金债仓爆仓价高于全局清算价时,不得继续借入,并且新流入的资金只能用来调仓降低爆仓价。

如何?




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what I care most is the market fee of smartcoins.

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2. Another *core* functionality and major *value proposition* is the
#    decentralized exchange (DEX) which is associated with a different set of feed.
#    Currently, the fees are flat fees for order creation, cancellation and update,
#    and are independent of the amount actually traded. Hence, small volume orders
#    pay the same fee as large volume orders. Taking a closer look at any
#    competitor reveals that this should certainly chance. Instead of asking for a
#    rather high flat fee to compensate the costs of the DEX (storing and matching
#    orders), I here propose to reduce the flat fee drastically to an amount that
#    mostly to prevents spam and instead set a percentage trading fee for every
#    committee-owned asset. The advantages are that the committee (read: DAC) could
#    earn more fees from matching orders. Since cancellation of orders results in a
#    refund of the creation fee, this should also encourage traders to bring
#    liquidity. A disadvantage is that the DAC earns less from trading of assets
#    that are not owned by the committee, such as OPEN.BTC, TRADE.MUSE etc. because
#    the flat fees are reduced and the percentage market fees go to the
#    corresponding issuer. Anyway, this approach should result in more traders
#    using the DEX and an increase of liquidity.
#
#    What percentage should be used? Since we are using a fixed percentage
#    independent of an individuals volume, we should choose a percentage that is
#    lower than the highest fee asked for by big exchanges such as Kraken,
#    Coinbase, BTC38, etc. Furthermore, regional difference should be
#    taken into account eventually. For now I propose a fee of
#
#                            0.10%
#
#    of the matched volume which is less than most centralized competitors even
#    though we offer an increased security over them. This fee may be considered as
#    a welcome package and may probably be increased to something close to 0.5% to
#    reflect the decentralized and trust-free nature of the DEX.
#

In my consideration, there is no possibility to increase the smartcoin market fee to 0.5%, in the future, these market fee will either stay at 0.1% or return to 0.

initially the market fee for all the smartcoins is 0, later for bitCNY and bitUSD the market fee was increased to 0.1%, with the start of the open market operation plan.

smartcoin is different with UIA, the community always suffer insufficiency of the supply, market fee lead to accumulation of the smartcoins on committee-account, if committee cannot put a good use plan on these revenue, maybe it is better to set the market fee to 0 and give traders more profit space.

another point is the incentive to better market depth/trading vitality, for example, GDEX is planning to find some market maker to provide more trading depth, these market maker always request lowest or even 0 market fee, for UIA like GDEX.BTC, GDEX can chose to return the market fee to market maker account, but there is no way to do this for bitCNY, which means market making service  for smartcoins trading pair is more expensive.

market fee rate like 0.5% is totally unacceptable, which will drive the traders away.



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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【讨论】后BSIP42时代bitCNY的规则改进
« on: February 06, 2019, 12:35:49 pm »
黑天鹅保护已通过,下一步可以推动mssr到102了

似乎有阻力https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/140

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【讨论】后BSIP42时代bitCNY的规则改进
« on: February 01, 2019, 11:10:13 am »
黑天鹅保护的提案,投票涨的好慢,似乎到了瓶颈了。

反对票至今为零,赞成票超过两亿,共识已经很强。
多数见证人已经采用黑天鹅保护,搞这个BSIP投票是为了取得社区共识上的合法性。

792
中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【讨论】后BSIP42时代bitCNY的规则改进
« on: February 01, 2019, 06:54:10 am »
牵涉到治理的事情本来就不可能达成一致,决策的前提也不是达成一致,而是达成强共识。

分叉没卵用,真实的交易量和深度无法在分叉上模拟出来。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【讨论】后BSIP42时代bitCNY的规则改进
« on: January 27, 2019, 03:31:00 pm »
起草了新的BSIP-通过投票更改MSSR/MCR:https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/140, 通过的话下一步就着手把bitCNY的MSSR降到1.02

794
General Discussion / Re: suggestion on bitCNY rules update after BSIP42
« on: January 27, 2019, 03:29:15 pm »
A new BSIP is drafted to define the process for adjusting MSSR and/or MCR: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/140

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【讨论】后BSIP42时代bitCNY的规则改进
« on: January 24, 2019, 11:05:26 am »
给bitCNY应用黑天鹅防护的WP已发,请投票支持1.14.160.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27753.0

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