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Title: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: fran2k on April 16, 2015, 10:52:59 pm
Bitshares Team Argentina
Formerly argentina-marketing-matt608 (http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates/delegate?name=argentina-marketing.matt608)

Updates on delegate team

We want to thank matt608 for his great work as Argentina Marketing partner and his initiative on creating this delegate. We are proud to have his confidence as delegate successor and wish him the best for his upcoming projects.

We agreed with Matt on a delegate replacement for argentina-marketing-matt608 and he kindly accepted to keep it running for a while so we can  coordinate a delegate swap proposition.

With actual team reorganization we are working voluntarily. No one is getting paid for their contributions, at least until we prove being valuable for the network.
If a specific service needs to be paid to someone that will be proposed in advance.

Who we are:

Work already done

Goals
Funds

Given our main goal to target already crypto-friendly public until Bitshares stable release, expenses have been low. As long time active members of  Bitcoin community from Argentina we already have place, resources and audience to create Meetups and promote  Bitshares on many conferences and other crypto related events. Costs are usually limited just to BitUSD paper wallet for giveaways, printing promotional material and little else.

Matt has around 1500 BitUSD delegate savings and has already covered his delegate registration fee.

We want to keep this direction while making bigger plans and also testing new strategies to be ready for the upcoming times.

We’d like to hear all views that contribute to align the community on a steady course.[/list]
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cusknee on April 17, 2015, 05:25:20 am
Excellent post and plan!
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on April 17, 2015, 05:30:43 am
Excellent update, expecting more good news from your team! +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: donkeypong on April 17, 2015, 06:46:35 am
Wonderful. I only wish you guys had more funding. That will come, in time.
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: TurkeyLeg on April 17, 2015, 05:04:31 pm
+5% Outstanding! Keep up the great work! An impressive amount of feet hitting the streets here.


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Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: CLains on April 18, 2015, 11:52:52 am
Great update!  +5%
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: Akado on April 20, 2015, 08:45:35 am
found this today http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/04/19/satoshitango-one-of-argentinas-top-bitcoin-exchanges/
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: fran2k on May 21, 2015, 09:15:31 pm
Yesterday we did a talk at one big university, ITBA, around 30 students came. More info and pictures in the event thread (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16443.0.html).
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: karnal on May 21, 2015, 09:48:25 pm
Cool, guys. Are the people extra receptive about crypto in Argentina? Given the track record of the currency in the last decade there..
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: fran2k on June 10, 2015, 03:48:07 pm
Quote from: fran2k on May 21, 2015, 09:15:31 pm
Yesterday we did a talk at one big university, ITBA, around 30 students came. More info and pictures in the event thread (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16443.0.html).

We did the same talk on May's Bitcoin Meetup (http://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Argentina/events/222473150/).

We are planning our first exclusive Bitshares Meetup (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16866.0.html) to be in one week at the Buenos Aires Bitcoin Space. We halted our BitUSD paper wallets giveaways as ElMato & Dargon LimeWallet (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,11902.0.html) (ex Bitshares Wallet) is currently not working but we will encourage participants to bring their laptops so they could install the desktop wallet and register an user.

Most funds are being saved, we will post our full accounting asap.
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: santaclause102 on June 18, 2015, 12:32:45 pm
Who controls this argentina-marketing-matt608 delegate?
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: Riverhead on June 18, 2015, 01:17:03 pm
Quote from: delulo on June 18, 2015, 12:32:45 pm
Who controls this argentina-marketing-matt608 delegate?

I do until they get their own delegate elected or setup to take this one over. The funds are spooling up with a balance currently of around 200k BTS.
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: santaclause102 on June 18, 2015, 01:43:37 pm
Quote from: Riverhead on June 18, 2015, 01:17:03 pm
Quote from: delulo on June 18, 2015, 12:32:45 pm
Who controls this argentina-marketing-matt608 delegate?

I do until they get their own delegate elected or setup to take this one over. The funds are spooling up with a balance currently of around 200k BTS.
+5%
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on June 18, 2015, 02:21:16 pm
I'm very excited to hear about the progress in Argentina. Here in the US, you guys are used as one of the prime examples for where crypto could have its largest impact.

I'll be heading to Central America later this year and hope to set up a beta version of a remittance business, basically empowering a local team with some money, processes, and tools for accepting or dispensing crypto for cash; I'm toying with either using BTC or BTS, but think that, from a purely marketing perspective, it might be easier for locals to adopt bitUSD over BTC bc USD is so pervasive; selling a digital USD seems like an easier sell to me.

What we need is a super simple app, or device, wallet to start distributing. I don't know of any that use bitUSD, but there are plenty of ways to start using BTC; at least, they're all in English that I know of. Do you guys know of any really good Spanish language apps?
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: lil_jay890 on June 18, 2015, 02:28:14 pm
Quote from: cylonmaker2053 on June 18, 2015, 02:21:16 pm
I'm very excited to hear about the progress in Argentina. Here in the US, you guys are used as one of the prime examples for where crypto could have its largest impact.

I'll be heading to Central America later this year and hope to set up a beta version of a remittance business, basically empowering a local team with some money, processes, and tools for accepting or dispensing crypto for cash; I'm toying with either using BTC or BTS, but think that, from a purely marketing perspective, it might be easier for locals to adopt bitUSD over BTC bc USD is so pervasive; selling a digital USD seems like an easier sell to me.

What we need is a super simple app, or device, wallet to start distributing. I don't know of any that use bitUSD, but there are plenty of ways to start using BTC; at least, they're all in English that I know of. Do you guys know of any really good Spanish language apps?

They are working on the "Lime" Wallet.  I'm guessing it will be released after 2.0 is released... along with Moonstone
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: santaclause102 on June 18, 2015, 02:32:26 pm
Quote from: cylonmaker2053 on June 18, 2015, 02:21:16 pm
I'm very excited to hear about the progress in Argentina. Here in the US, you guys are used as one of the prime examples for where crypto could have its largest impact.

I'll be heading to Central America later this year and hope to set up a beta version of a remittance business, basically empowering a local team with some money, processes, and tools for accepting or dispensing crypto for cash; I'm toying with either using BTC or BTS, but think that, from a purely marketing perspective, it might be easier for locals to adopt bitUSD over BTC bc USD is so pervasive; selling a digital USD seems like an easier sell to me.

What we need is a super simple app, or device, wallet to start distributing. I don't know of any that use bitUSD, but there are plenty of ways to start using BTC; at least, they're all in English that I know of. Do you guys know of any really good Spanish language apps?
You can make a lot of money with the referral program with such a business, see https://bitshares.org/technology/referral-rewards-program/

You may have to shares the referral rewards with the one you programmed the wallet if you don't have your own. You maybe could also use the whitelabel wallet the core devs are preparing...
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on June 18, 2015, 02:34:38 pm
Quote from: lil_jay890 on June 18, 2015, 02:28:14 pm
They are working on the "Lime" Wallet.  I'm guessing it will be released after 2.0 is released... along with Moonstone

Cool, Lime wallet could be the type of solution I need. Def need to look into it more...thx!
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on June 18, 2015, 02:41:06 pm
Quote from: delulo on June 18, 2015, 02:32:26 pm
You can make a lot of money with the referral program with such a business, see https://bitshares.org/technology/referral-rewards-program/

You may have to shares the referral rewards with the one you programmed the wallet if you don't have your own. You maybe could also use the whitelabel wallet the core devs are preparing...

Now this is really interesting; I need to learn a lot more and think about how this could be leveraged by fielding sales teams and incentivizing money changers to use bitUSD.

Does anyone who has participated in this program have any feedback they can provide? Are all fees automatically dispensed in BTS? Any issues?
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: rnglab on June 19, 2015, 07:39:47 pm
Quote from: Riverhead on June 18, 2015, 01:17:03 pm
Quote from: delulo on June 18, 2015, 12:32:45 pm
Who controls this argentina-marketing-matt608 delegate?
I do until they get their own delegate elected or setup to take this one over. The funds are spooling up with a balance currently of around 200k BTS.
Quote from: fran2k on June 10, 2015, 03:48:07 pm
Most funds are being saved, we will post our full accounting asap.

Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qCGV1Fa64UlKL9Ty9F2rn9nL1-LADEUSnJWM3AbzyTs/edit#gid=0) is a simple accounting spreadsheet. We have 156,199 BTS and 1,038 bitUSD at fran2k's account (moving BitUSD to BTS right now ;)), plus another 202,574 BTS that Riverhead is holding (http://bitsharesblocks.com/delegate/earnings?name=argentina-marketing.matt608) as he kindly manages the argentina-marketing.matt608 delegate.

We've been looking forward for protocol update to make the right moves. That includes delaying the new delegate registration, and doing just small but strategic diffusion while saving most funds for the big launch that's almost here.

Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: fran2k on June 19, 2015, 08:55:28 pm
Quote from: fran2k on June 10, 2015, 03:48:07 pm
We are planning our first exclusive Bitshares Meetup (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16866.0.html) to be in one week at the Buenos Aires Bitcoin Space. We halted our BitUSD paper wallets giveaways as ElMato & Dargon LimeWallet (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,11902.0.html) (ex Bitshares Wallet) is currently not working but we will encourage participants to bring their laptops so they could install the desktop wallet and register an user.

Just to add to @rnglab updates. Yesterday Bitshares meetup went great. See more details at the meetup thread (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16866.0.html). Buenos Aires has the biggest Bitshares meetup (http://bitshares.meetup.com/) group! :D How is this community still so small?!
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on June 19, 2015, 09:00:33 pm
Quote from: fran2k on June 19, 2015, 08:55:28 pm
Quote from: fran2k on June 10, 2015, 03:48:07 pm
We are planning our first exclusive Bitshares Meetup (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16866.0.html) to be in one week at the Buenos Aires Bitcoin Space. We halted our BitUSD paper wallets giveaways as ElMato & Dargon LimeWallet (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,11902.0.html) (ex Bitshares Wallet) is currently not working but we will encourage participants to bring their laptops so they could install the desktop wallet and register an user.

Just to add to @rnglab updates. Yesterday Bitshares meetup went great. See more details at the meetup thread (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16866.0.html). Buenos Aires has the biggest Bitshares meetup (http://bitshares.meetup.com/) group! :D How is this community still so small?!

 +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: fran2k on June 30, 2015, 03:55:49 am
New Bitshares 2.0 talk and giveaway coming at the monthly Buenos Aires July Bitcoin meetup, more details in the event thread (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17312.0).
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: hcf27 on February 05, 2016, 02:31:57 pm
Hello,

I found this old thread and I have also been looking for Bitshare supportes in Argentina.

I have been contemplating the idea of creating a smartcoin for Argentinians Peso, is this something you guys have evaluated yet?

I am willing to support and help you guys in whatever way possible.

Just drop me a PM if you think I can help in any way..
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 12, 2016, 09:12:36 pm
Quote from: hcf27 on February 05, 2016, 02:31:57 pm
Hello,

I found this old thread and I have also been looking for Bitshare supportes in Argentina.

I have been contemplating the idea of creating a smartcoin for Argentinians Peso, is this something you guys have evaluated yet?

I am willing to support and help you guys in whatever way possible.

Just drop me a PM if you think I can help in any way..

it's great you're rallying support from other Argentinians, but--and this is just my American perspective--wouldn't it be useful for Argentinians to park funds in bitUSD instead of a bitARS? we're having a tough time creating enough liquidity with bitUSD, so i would think the problem would be worse for a bitARS.

what would be very useful for your local market would be a gateway from ARS to BTS, then people could buy whatever other BTS-synthesized assets, like bitUSD, bitGOLD, etc.
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: hcf27 on February 12, 2016, 09:34:30 pm
Quote from: cylonmaker2053 on February 12, 2016, 09:12:36 pm
Quote from: hcf27 on February 05, 2016, 02:31:57 pm
Hello,

I found this old thread and I have also been looking for Bitshare supportes in Argentina.

I have been contemplating the idea of creating a smartcoin for Argentinians Peso, is this something you guys have evaluated yet?

I am willing to support and help you guys in whatever way possible.

Just drop me a PM if you think I can help in any way..

it's great you're rallying support from other Argentinians, but--and this is just my American perspective--wouldn't it be useful for Argentinians to park funds in bitUSD instead of a bitARS? we're having a tough time creating enough liquidity with bitUSD, so i would think the problem would be worse for a bitARS.

what would be very useful for your local market would be a gateway from ARS to BTS, then people could buy whatever other BTS-synthesized assets, like bitUSD, bitGOLD, etc.

Yes, you are right the liquidity would be a problem, specially for a coin that has a tendency of constantly depreciating....

This is why I think the utility of having bitArs would be to allow argentinians to trade BTS assets with their local currency, a gateway for them to obtain bitArs with pesos would be needed for this to happen.

I think argentinians would trade a lot more if they knew about the possibility of doing it in a decentralized exchange, currently we are the number 1 country in latin america using Bitcoin however there is not 1 big exchange in Argentina, I think this is because trust issues (hell we dont even trust goverment, nevermind an exchange). Most of the trades are being carried out trough LocalBitcoins, or brookers who are contacted via Facebook.

So, in conclusion, yes you are right, it would be really hard to provide liquidity for BitArs and this smartcoin will probably lose value over time, like the real argentain peso does, but if we can find real use for it and get people to use the exchange then it would be worth it.

P.S: I am already in very preliminar talks with some of Argentina´s Bitshares Team to "put our money where our mouth is" and provide some initial liquidity by shorting some of our BTS and generate the initial "reserve" of BitArs



Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 13, 2016, 04:48:27 pm
What percentage of merchants accept USD in Argentina? If non-trivial, then maybe bitUSD would be a better payment method than bitARS. that way you can piggyback on, and contribute to, the liquidity of the dominant smartcoin at the moment. another benefit to any Argentinian using it is that it wouldn't have the same ARS-USD depreciation you guys are plagued with down there. accumulating bitUSD would also be much more useful if/when we get some bitUSD-USD gateways up here for you to clear back into plain old USD (or BTS, BTC, gold, bitGOLD, or whatever else people may want).
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: hcf27 on February 17, 2016, 12:02:11 pm
Quote from: cylonmaker2053 on February 13, 2016, 04:48:27 pm
What percentage of merchants accept USD in Argentina? If non-trivial, then maybe bitUSD would be a better payment method than bitARS. that way you can piggyback on, and contribute to, the liquidity of the dominant smartcoin at the moment. another benefit to any Argentinian using it is that it wouldn't have the same ARS-USD depreciation you guys are plagued with down there. accumulating bitUSD would also be much more useful if/when we get some bitUSD-USD gateways up here for you to clear back into plain old USD (or BTS, BTC, gold, bitGOLD, or whatever else people may want).

I dont think is legal to accept USD or any other currency in Argentina as a payment option, I agree that USD is way more stable and BitArs wouldnt really work for "saving" money. However we are thinking of possible using BitArs in a different way, more like an online decentralized payment solution, sort of like a reliable PayPal (Which we only have with limited access). We may even have some cooperation with the Bitcoin Embassy to act as a bridge!

we are going to give it some thought and put out a statment soon,

Really appreciate your comments!

Regards
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on February 17, 2016, 01:53:43 pm
Quote from: hcf27 on February 17, 2016, 12:02:11 pm
Quote from: cylonmaker2053 on February 13, 2016, 04:48:27 pm
What percentage of merchants accept USD in Argentina? If non-trivial, then maybe bitUSD would be a better payment method than bitARS. that way you can piggyback on, and contribute to, the liquidity of the dominant smartcoin at the moment. another benefit to any Argentinian using it is that it wouldn't have the same ARS-USD depreciation you guys are plagued with down there. accumulating bitUSD would also be much more useful if/when we get some bitUSD-USD gateways up here for you to clear back into plain old USD (or BTS, BTC, gold, bitGOLD, or whatever else people may want).

I dont think is legal to accept USD or any other currency in Argentina as a payment option, I agree that USD is way more stable and BitArs wouldnt really work for "saving" money. However we are thinking of possible using BitArs in a different way, more like an online decentralized payment solution, sort of like a reliable PayPal (Which we only have with limited access). We may even have some cooperation with the Bitcoin Embassy to act as a bridge!

we are going to it some thought and put out a statment soon,

Really appreciate your comments!

Regards

Cool, best of luck! I'd be very interested to hear how things work out, which route you decide to go. I do financial research for a living, so any cool developments that come with some data would be a bonus  :)
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: fran2k on March 10, 2016, 05:47:33 am
We have scheduled a new meetup at the Buenos Aires Bitcoin Center. We are going to do a mini open space, select the hottest topics together and talk about them.

http://www.meetup.com/es-ES/BitSharesBA/events/229480611/
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: hcf27 on March 10, 2016, 11:55:52 am
Quote from: fran2k on March 10, 2016, 05:47:33 am
We have scheduled a new meetup at the Buenos Aires Bitcoin Center. We are going to do a mini open space, select the hottest topics together and talk about them.

http://www.meetup.com/es-ES/BitSharesBA/events/229480611/

Nice I will try to be there so we can talk about BitArs and building a bridge to buy BitUSD and BitGold (maybe we can help bring some liquidity in this market)

Abrazo!
Title: Re: Argentina Team Updates
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on March 10, 2016, 04:23:10 pm
Quote from: hcf27 on March 10, 2016, 11:55:52 am
Quote from: fran2k on March 10, 2016, 05:47:33 am
We have scheduled a new meetup at the Buenos Aires Bitcoin Center. We are going to do a mini open space, select the hottest topics together and talk about them.

http://www.meetup.com/es-ES/BitSharesBA/events/229480611/

Nice I will try to be there so we can talk about BitArs and building a bridge to buy BitUSD and BitGold (maybe we can help bring some liquidity in this market)

Abrazo!

Great to hear, guys! Like i said earlier, i think going straight to bitUSD use for you guys makes the most sense. you can leverage the relatively high volume, market makers focusing on that currency pair, and take advantage of the natural propensity for Argentinians to use USD. in the end, it'd be better for your customers/users to migrate to something more stable than ARS.

Anyway, best of luck and I'll have to try to meet up with you guys when I'm in BA next Spring!