If I were an admin/moderator i'd remove this poll.
Why can a newbie account even create polls in General Dicussion? This topic obviously is not a discussion and worth nothing!!
I'll be happy to buy all your XTS when you are selling!
Do you know what is freedom of expression?What are there in this topic is not suitable for the speech?Sure you can talk freely .. but this is not constructively! It's just FUD
- 5% | Don't understand this poll and question ... sry for me it's wasted time ... there are a lot of other chances out there ... so why this question!?
Could you explain it !?I'll be happy to buy all your XTS when you are selling!
me too :)
of course no.Sure .. copying existing satoshi client is worth billions .. if thats true .. wait for what a new blockchain technology will be worth!
for these six months, 3I's performance sucks.
if given me another chanca and back to six month ago, of course i would invest all my money in nxt, blackcoin and darkcoin. their performance in these 6 months are the best.
but no one can predict the future or come back to the past.
of course no.
for these six months, 3I's performance sucks.
if given me another chanca and back to six month ago, of course i would invest all my money in nxt, blackcoin and darkcoin. their performance in these 6 months are the best.
but no one can predict the future or come back to the past.
Despite many times the frustration of many members here about the delays of I3 I really think that we are one of the best communities out there. And if we stop bitching about delays, stop with the unnecessary negativity and we all collaborate as we can, I really think we can overtake all the other coins...
indeed :P
- 5% | Don't understand this poll and question ... sry for me it's wasted time ... there are a lot of other chances out there ... so why this question!?
Could you explain it !?I'll be happy to buy all your XTS when you are selling!
me too :)
Bitshares is very different from blackcoin, nxt, etc.
There are also 100s of coins that have lost far far more than Bitshares.
The comparisons in this thread ... are bordering on retarded.
"I'm here as a donator to build DACs for the good of mankind, so I don't care about making money. I'm such a moral and ethical person and everyone trying to profit is selfish".So you are calling me a liar because I made a commitment to donate all fees earned by my charity delegate to charity?!?!
If you are this person just STFU. You are probably full of crap.
imho, the biggest problem is that people cannot flip their investment to btsx through ags. Just look at simcoin and how early investors could sell part of their stake. It was a rough way, but at least people could get their btc back.
Bitshares is very different from blackcoin, nxt, etc.
There are also 100s of coins that have lost far far more than Bitshares.
The comparisons in this thread ... are bordering on retarded.
The original question was about AGS and not Bitshares-PTS. To keep it real, as of right now, the btc I sent to AGS is gone and I have nothing to show for it. I'm a big supporter of this project, but I can definitely understand the frustration. It's not about wanting a quick profit, it's about knowing your investment will eventually give returns. Every week that passes makes people more and more antsy, especially when it was supposed to launch on the ides of March. Remember that?
I want to be clear that I'm not this person.
"I'm here as a donator to build DACs for the good of mankind, so I don't care about making money. I'm such a moral and ethical person and everyone trying to profit is selfish".
If you are this person just STFU. You are probably full of crap.
I'm here to profit and so is everyone else, so stop the bullshit. Just ranting as I've heard this from people in these forums.
Anyway, Go Bitshares! I'm a big supporter, but I can understand the frustration. That's all.
"I'm here as a donator to build DACs for the good of mankind, so I don't care about making money. I'm such a moral and ethical person and everyone trying to profit is selfish".So you are calling me a liar because I made a commitment to donate all fees earned by my charity delegate to charity?!?!
If you are this person just STFU. You are probably full of crap.
BTW: ever heard about that neat thing called netiquette!?
In 40 years in the aerospace R&D industry, I have seldom seen so much accomplished so quickly with so few people.
I'm not frustrated. I'm inspired!
Don't wanna be a troll here, but what you're saying really annoys me and other investors like me.
Please stop saying "R&D", coz' it's quite insulting to others who are really doing R&D. I could only imagine is that you have no idea how fast things happen in the crypto industry, which is quite different from your field of expertise, otherwise it is quite an arrogant statement that you "accomplished so quickly with so few people". Don't you know that Sunny King finished the codebase for peercoin all by himself in just a few weeks?
The worst problem about 3I is the attitude! ATTITUDE! You guys made mistakes. You guys were doing a bad job. Just admit it and move on, for god's sake.
SunnyKing used an existing codebasehow about nextcoin? how long did they take to finish a brand new product by only 21btc funding ?
I kinda hoped you say that. Throwing away 4+ years of bitcoin's codebase and starting from scratch with your own, way to go! Wait a minute, I remember another project that took the same approach as 3I... Guess how long it takes NXT to finish what 3I tries to accomplish?Don't wanna be a troll here, but what you're saying really annoys me and other investors like me.
Please stop saying "R&D", coz' it's quite insulting to others who are really doing R&D. I could only imagine is that you have no idea how fast things happen in the crypto industry, which is quite different from your field of expertise, otherwise it is quite an arrogant statement that you "accomplished so quickly with so few people". Don't you know that Sunny King finished the codebase for peercoin all by himself in just a few weeks?
The worst problem about 3I is the attitude! ATTITUDE! You guys made mistakes. You guys were doing a bad job. Just admit it and move on, for god's sake.
I admit we've done a bad job at some parts, particularly PR and marketing.
But LOL, peercoin starting from bitcoin's codebase vs DPOS+TITAN starting from scratch, and we're the ones not doing real R&D. Who is insulting who again?
I would like to have been a Keyhotee founder and to have put more into AGS before the snapshot.+5%
I think what is being done is awesome (in the literal sense of the word rather than the overused banal sense).
How can anyone who even vaguely understands what's going on deny that this fundamentally groundbreaking stuff.
As things stand I don't much care about the delay. It's the final product(s) that's important to me.
If Rome had been built in a day, it would've been SHIT!
SunnyKing used an existing codebasehow about nextcoin? how long did they take to finish a brand new product by only 21btc funding ?
3I accepted our donation
They can't always use the fork to reply us
We need them to unite all the people, as far as possible to reach a consensus
Instead of fork fork fork fork fork fork fork
If I like fork, Why do I need a donation?
fucking fork, I don't want to hear any more.
I'll invest, but I like BM can stabilize a bit, don't often put forward without thinking, there is no economic sense, no social experience, suggestions
The result has shown a lot of questions, I hope 3I and BM can attention!
The result has shown a lot of questions, I hope 3I and BM can attention!
Like what? I haven't seen any new questions on this thread. Just the same old complaints, which Invictus folks have addressed time and time again. When they have to spend their time on here responding to complaints, that delays our products longer. I realize some people donated more than they probably should have, trying to make a quick buck, but that's really not how investing works 99% of the time. Be patient and hang in there; good things are coming soon.
I'd like to diversify my holdings within the cryptocurrency world. The are many altcoins and platforms of which I'd like to have a piece.
My problem is that every time I want to buy something different I end up thinking, "But I could just get more AGS or PTS!".
It's reeeaaaally annoying that BitShares has me captivated this way. >:(
:P
All I know is there are a good few people who might complain at times too, but also volunteer their time to help this grow. The value comes from us. Invictus sole job is to produce a solid platform...The result has shown a lot of questions, I hope 3I and BM can attention!
Like what? I haven't seen any new questions on this thread. Just the same old complaints, which Invictus folks have addressed time and time again. When they have to spend their time on here responding to complaints, that delays our products longer. I realize some people donated more than they probably should have, trying to make a quick buck, but that's really not how investing works 99% of the time. Be patient and hang in there; good things are coming soon.
Borrow someone else's words, I also want to express meaning.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
The result has shown a lot of questions, I hope 3I and BM can attention!
Like what? I haven't seen any new questions on this thread. Just the same old complaints, which Invictus folks have addressed time and time again. When they have to spend their time on here responding to complaints, that delays our products longer. I realize some people donated more than they probably should have, trying to make a quick buck, but that's really not how investing works 99% of the time. Be patient and hang in there; good things are coming soon.
Borrow someone else's words, I also want to express meaning.
1. i think 3I are pushing forward the development of the BTS-XT for these days and there have been some progresses recently.
2. chinese people made some contributions: they have invested a lot of money. many people do not understand programming and they even do not know much about English, so they cannot make too much contribution about programming or even the test. but they invest their money and trust. it is important because that is why 3I could have the opportunity to try their so many crazy or maybe genius ideas and do not need to worry failure because a lot of investors would pay the bill.
3. i know anger and complain are useless, people should shut their month up and let the team focus on the development.
but i understand their emotion. I also feel anxious too. quite quite worried.
firstly, from your performance: I know you are making progress, but i think it is not very efficient, and you guys cannot even make one stable wallet without any real market function? most altcoin can but you cannot with so much money and with waht you so called a strong Ｒ＆Ｄteam?
secondly, from your attitude: I think all 3I team members are nice and polite people, but you seem to be a little too optimistic and sometimes even arrogant . for over half a year, without anything comeing out, i never hear a word that we are sorry, we didn't do well, but all i hear is that we made a great thing, we are awesome. we are terriffic. Maybe i am wrong, you are all talented people, BM is like Steve Jobs, but we are just ordinary people. but please at least admit that, in these six months ,you did not do well and the market has given the answer.
thirdly, yesterday' post by BM is a blasting fuse. first, many investors feel they are fooled, and what i am dissapointed is that i thought BM is a talent, but all i see is he hasn't finished a stable wallet, and stroll on this forum everyday, answering almost everyone's post, i think it should be someone else's responsiblity. you guys don't make any labor division? diffrent people are responsible for different part of jobs? so worried about the team management or lack of excution. i hear that keyhotee team take away 100+ Bitcoin every month, i don't know if it is ture, but i think it is disaster. from the work on keyhotee, i guess this team is not very good. and 3I still uses such a team to work on BTS X, no wonder a wallet we still could not be released yet.
finnally, i just want to say, we do not want to complain too much. but the thing is that most people in this forum don't think you did a good job and what is worse, you don't think that you did a terrible job in these six months. And that is why we are so afraid of the future of 3I. and since a lot of people have been trapped in this investment, so they complain and complain again. if today they can leave without any lost of moeny , they would just leave right away, without saying any word.
so if you think you don't want hear too much complain, you could just give back the money we invested and we would stop complaining and get away? i am just joking, i know it is ridiculous, i just want to say, please at least stand on investors' position and understand people's complain
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