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Other => Graveyard => KeyID => Topic started by: toast on March 19, 2014, 08:36:20 pm

Title: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: toast on March 19, 2014, 08:36:20 pm
I started:
https://github.com/nmushegian/invictus-FAQ/blob/master/DNS.md

Interested in more questions you guys have. Obviously those questions make assumptions I haven't explained yet, I'll get to that.

Will slowly bump the bounty until I figure out what it's worth.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: alt on March 20, 2014, 08:02:29 am
1. support both IPV4 && IPV6?
2. support alias domains? like bts.bit -> iii.bit
3. support multi Address? abc.bit -> 1.1.1.1, 2.2.2.2, 3.3.3.3
4. can I sell sub domain?
   I am the owner of abc.bit, Can I sell apple.abc.bit to other?
5. Can I use sub domain without config?
  I am the owner of abc.bit, set it to 1.1.1.1.
  www.abc.bit is not set yet, can I use www.abc.bit -> 1.1.1.1?

Too many questions, thank you!
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: CWEvans on March 20, 2014, 11:07:51 am
Can BTS DNS be used for websites that promote terrorism, money laundering, hacking, child pornography, dogs & cats sleeping together, whatever the Outrage of the Week is on Fox/MSNBC?
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: HackFisher on March 21, 2014, 07:13:46 am
If two buyers buy same domain in the same block, which one will success? Depend on Miner or the one with higher price?
Ask this question because the codes reveals that the order are matched in wallet client.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: hadrian on March 22, 2014, 08:22:48 pm
Can I view a BTS DNS website on a smartphone or other device without the blockchain?
If not, could this be possible in the future?
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: toast on March 22, 2014, 08:26:57 pm
1. support both IPV4 && IPV6?
2. support alias domains? like bts.bit -> iii.bit
3. support multi Address? abc.bit -> 1.1.1.1, 2.2.2.2, 3.3.3.3
4. can I sell sub domain?
   I am the owner of abc.bit, Can I sell apple.abc.bit to other?
5. Can I use sub domain without config?
  I am the owner of abc.bit, set it to 1.1.1.1.
  www.abc.bit is not set yet, can I use www.abc.bit -> 1.1.1.1?

Too many questions, thank you!

All of those are application-layer. In other words, yes it is all possible, that is part of the browser extension / conventions for how to use the record value.

Can I view a BTS DNS website on a smartphone or other device without the blockchain?
If not, could this be possible in the future?

Yes, just like electrum is a thin client for bitcoin, there will be thin extensions for your browser.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: toast on March 22, 2014, 08:29:51 pm
Can BTS DNS be used for websites that promote terrorism, money laundering, hacking, child pornography, dogs & cats sleeping together, whatever the Outrage of the Week is on Fox/MSNBC?

Yes! BTS DNS is perfect for attracting viewers with manufactured controversy.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: toast on March 22, 2014, 08:31:40 pm
Can I view a BTS DNS website on a smartphone or other device without the blockchain?
If not, could this be possible in the future?

Yes, just like electrum is a thin client for bitcoin, there will be thin extensions for your browser.

Furthermore there will be proxies via old DNS like   xxxx.bitshar.es -> xxxx.p2p
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: vikram on March 22, 2014, 09:11:00 pm
If two buyers buy same domain in the same block, which one will success? Depend on Miner or the one with higher price?
Ask this question because the codes reveals that the order are matched in wallet client.

The transaction with the higher price should win, assuming it references the lower price transaction, even if they are in the same block. I am not sure what order matching code you are referring to, could you link?
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: bytemaster on March 23, 2014, 03:54:03 am
If two buyers buy same domain in the same block, which one will success? Depend on Miner or the one with higher price?
Ask this question because the codes reveals that the order are matched in wallet client.

The transaction with the higher price should win, assuming it references the lower price transaction, even if they are in the same block. I am not sure what order matching code you are referring to, could you link?

The block would be invalid as block validation will require unique outputs.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: HackFisher on March 23, 2014, 04:00:59 am
ok, so the miner would have to make a choice, and most likely choose the one with higher fee to be included, from the aspect of economics, due to that both can not be included in the same block.

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Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: HackFisher on March 23, 2014, 04:03:42 am
ok, so the miner would have to make a choice, and most likely choose the one with higher fee to be included, from the aspect of economics, due to that both can not be included in the same block.

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but there is no limitation on protocal, and the miner could choose which he like technically. Am I right?

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Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: toast on March 23, 2014, 04:11:28 am
Yes, highest fees first, so lower fee would have to re-bid over the one with the higher bid
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: bytemaster on March 23, 2014, 04:55:33 am
ok, so the miner would have to make a choice, and most likely choose the one with higher fee to be included, from the aspect of economics, due to that both can not be included in the same block.

Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk
but there is no limitation on protocal, and the miner could choose which he like technically. Am I right?

Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk

Right.  However, if two blocks are produced at the same time, the one with the most CDD will win.  So a miner may have to balance fees vs CDD vs rate of collision to determine which transaction to include.   Default code sorts by fee to maximize dividends for shareholders. 
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: CWEvans on March 23, 2014, 12:33:05 pm
Can BTS DNS be used for websites that promote terrorism, money laundering, hacking, child pornography, dogs & cats sleeping together, whatever the Outrage of the Week is on Fox/MSNBC?

Yes! BTS DNS is perfect for attracting viewers with manufactured controversy.

I would word it differently in the FAQ.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: 麥可貓 on March 26, 2014, 07:34:00 am
Translated from here:

如果我想要的已经被人拍了,我怎么才能得到,重新拍卖拍吗?前期会不会有人很低的价格拍了很多?

Q1: If someone comes later and finds the domain he want was auctioned before,
is it possible for him to raise another round of auction for this domain?
Q2: In the initial stage of BitShares DNS, will people just obtain a lot of domains with relatively low price?

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In brief, I think people may be curious about the details of auction for domains.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: bytemaster on March 26, 2014, 06:25:56 pm
Once you own the name, it is yours and only goes up to auction if you wish to sell.

I think no auctions should be final for the first 30 to 60 days while the network gets established. 

Buying all of the names to 'squat' is not profitable regardless of the price you got the name at.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: JoeyD on March 27, 2014, 05:19:18 pm
Somewhat related question.

Is there a way for domainnames that have been "lost" (because of lost keys, long term unavailability of the owner, etc) to come up for auction again automatically?
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: toast on March 27, 2014, 05:30:03 pm
Somewhat related question.

Is there a way for domainnames that have been "lost" (because of lost keys, long term unavailability of the owner, etc) to come up for auction again automatically?

* Do domain names expire?
Domains expire after one year of inactivity. This means renewing your domain only costs a standard transaction fee (by sending the domain to yourself or updating its record), a miniscule cost compared to the initial auction.
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: 麥可貓 on March 27, 2014, 06:43:01 pm
Hello,

Will DNS-related commands be implemented for BTS DNS?
e.g.  host,  nslookup,  dig,  whois

If so,  I am curious about what information will "whois" provide?
Title: Re: DNS FAQ - collecting questions here
Post by: puppies on March 30, 2014, 05:05:53 pm
What are you going to use to secure the blockchain?  TaPOS, some POS/POW hybrid,  a single signing authority?  Are you planning on including the websites public PGP key in the blockchain at launch?

I think Bitshares-DNS has the chance of being the most important DAC to the common man.  Imagine truly being sure of who you are speaking with online, in an easy transparent way.