Contrary to all of ABL's assertions, centralized media is a bad thing. It gives a lot of power into very few. I've already had Adam threatening Bitshares media community because of my response s (and/or fuznuts) to him. His insists he is right and we are wrong. (Whatever I am wrong about, I have no clue.)
So let me clarify one last time.
6) Adam keeps wanting to say all this is because everyone is a blind choir member fanboy for Bitshares and thus no one has a valid opinion. (As if we disagree with Adam about I3 missing shipping dates !?!?!) Adam creates these fantasies in his head so he can write off any valid criticism. It is pathetic. Yes, I am a fan of bitshares but I am also a fan of all the related techs. When you disagree with someone it isn't an all or nothing proposition. With Adam it is, no one can have a valid dissenting opinion. EVERY dissenting opinion here he labels as being because people are Bitshares fanboys. What nonsense.
7) So much of this happened because legendface apparently acted unilaterally and caused a lot of bad blood initially. And in his defense, he may very well have had valid reasons. Even if he had already made the decision he shoud have approached fuz and at least tried to get him onboard.
That about sums it up. "Stupid f***ing internet drama".
6. Imo gamey is right about this...
7. Pretty much true, but that was not legends intent. I suspect this is somethig that kind of had to happen...things like this are chaotic and honestly the experience has made me realize I have some thinking to do with regard to the central issues around the intial frustration both legend and I certainly felt (for different reasons mind you)
At adam...admit for once you could have gone about it in a better way or dont...really doesnt matter. As for you inviting me to "your" platform, this is precisely the reason i didnt want to be a part of it. Nothing against you...just the truth. About the quality of my work or sycophantic nature of my questions...im humbly helping invictus who seems often wholly incapable of marketing themselves, for the community and because I believe in dan and the true potential of what he is doing. The community mostly asks questions and i serve to relay them. You are always more than welcome to ask dan hard questions during a hangout...otherwise I really dont care how I come off.
I leave my "mistakes" in the content because it happened and it is real. Someday I might do my own self edits and make a "show" for the kicks of it. People might someday make funny remixes of my fuck ups--who knows? I want to show noobies they do not need to fear speaking up and learning to give voice to the communities they believe in; to know everyone fucks up and not to be afraid to try. If someone like you wants to take that content and mix it in a certain fashion it is there...for humor or to get at the points you feel are important and under covered...then use it as your own, I say do it...but recognize it started in the bitshares community.
Finally, about your earning money from your project and reinvestment into platforms, adam, that makes you very similar to a journalist AND venture capitalist. It is a good BUSINESS to be in those niches...especially this early on. To say you are not running a business, then, feels a bit of a stretch. I consider "your" platform to be as decentralized as it can be until DACs finally come online to change the paradigm...I did not want to be part of lets talk bitcoin simply because I felt there needed to be a competitor of sorts in every
community, and that I wanted to help invictus by starting it there...learnin my strengths, weaknesses collaborating with people who are passionate and see what (i believe) many of the positives of their project. I then wanted to do the same in a other community...later down the road, to help prepare them to provide people like you with more unedited, open sourced content.
@legend none of this conversation has changed my willingness to help you...if we as a group cannot overcome misunderstandings then we should question our ability to inform people. This thread must have gotten pretty heated way after I simmered down, rethought things and pretty much chalked it up to a misunderstanding. Id personally like to chat sometime offline to see how we can most fairly construct the policies. Perhaps youmcan invite people to join up and give their thoughts on the matter...
@gamey...I am glad you disagree with adam. Im also glad when you disagree with me. Calling eachother names though does just demean ourselves as much as it demeans those who call them. I say this because ive learned it on more than a few occasions personally. Though I sometimes think both side feel like they are banging their heads on each other...there is a LOT of energy behind both sides' beliefs...this means we should explore further
Lastly...all I want to do is organize things for people who want to create content and help them. Legend has seen what I can do (thanks to dans support) and has directly benefitted. There will be others who do as well. And I will never require a damn thing other than repsect for the work im attempting to do.