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Quote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 05:41:06 amIf you want a web based platform Trading View is quite interesting, all they need is a feed.They have used TradingView for BTSX here: https://cryptrader.com/charts/bter/btsx/btcYou're welcome.
If you want a web based platform Trading View is quite interesting, all they need is a feed.
Quote from: MeTHoDx on September 02, 2014, 01:40:44 amBuy side looks good on Bter.Short term price is pretty irrelevant except for trading. BTSX today is somewhere between $45-75 million but the awareness is there and we've already seen $4 million 24hr volumes can arrive at the drop of a hat. As soon as the market thinks the incentives for BitAssets are right, there's a robust wallet and a decentralised developer system/process behind it, then the $ billion dollar plus valuation will be there so quick it will blow your mind imo.
Buy side looks good on Bter.
They have used TradingView for BTSX here: https://cryptrader.com/charts/bter/btsx/btcYou're welcome.
Quote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 04:18:14 amAh, that's right... I almost forgot! Quality and innovation is not welcome here. Don't know who runs bitcoinwisdom, but that is some serious quality charting right there. Some collaboration might be better than reinventing the wheel?
Ah, that's right... I almost forgot! Quality and innovation is not welcome here.
Just steal as much as you can from something already working on stock exchange.No need to invent the wheel.
Quote from: liondani on August 31, 2014, 09:58:47 pmThe market peg works already better then expected! What else do we want?A slick trading platform. I'll be making a pitch for that.
The market peg works already better then expected! What else do we want?
Quote from: Empirical1 on August 31, 2014, 04:54:39 amQuote from: fuznuts on August 31, 2014, 03:08:17 amQuote from: Empirical1 on August 31, 2014, 02:29:16 amThe kind of volumes BTSX consistently does is incredibleExcl. Bitcoin & Litecoin we sometimes do like today more volume than everyone else combined.But, but empir...didnt you hear...bitUSD is "broken"! Its allllll over for us! I hope this ride won't be too big though. I think it's a fair price for where the code seems to be atm.My feeling now is I'd like to see BTSX consolidate below the 80-85 Million CAP until there's a more stable, bug free version. And then only see it make a big move to overtake LiteCoin when there's a more robust, decentralised BitAsset system, because if we take the no.2 spot (with the spotlight that brings) in place, given the kind of volumes we already see, it might sound crazy but I actually think this can go to Bitcoin territory < 4 months after that.Do you guys think the BitAsset pegs will work out (mostly) as planned?
Quote from: fuznuts on August 31, 2014, 03:08:17 amQuote from: Empirical1 on August 31, 2014, 02:29:16 amThe kind of volumes BTSX consistently does is incredibleExcl. Bitcoin & Litecoin we sometimes do like today more volume than everyone else combined.But, but empir...didnt you hear...bitUSD is "broken"! Its allllll over for us! I hope this ride won't be too big though. I think it's a fair price for where the code seems to be atm.My feeling now is I'd like to see BTSX consolidate below the 80-85 Million CAP until there's a more stable, bug free version. And then only see it make a big move to overtake LiteCoin when there's a more robust, decentralised BitAsset system, because if we take the no.2 spot (with the spotlight that brings) in place, given the kind of volumes we already see, it might sound crazy but I actually think this can go to Bitcoin territory < 4 months after that.
Quote from: Empirical1 on August 31, 2014, 02:29:16 amThe kind of volumes BTSX consistently does is incredibleExcl. Bitcoin & Litecoin we sometimes do like today more volume than everyone else combined.But, but empir...didnt you hear...bitUSD is "broken"! Its allllll over for us!
The kind of volumes BTSX consistently does is incredibleExcl. Bitcoin & Litecoin we sometimes do like today more volume than everyone else combined.
@bitmeatPeople said the same thing about bitcoin when it first started getting popular. I was positive there would be a massive government backlash. I thought they would close the on/off ramps and make it illegal to accept BTC as payment. That didn't happen. If the powers that be try to do that to BTSX, it will end up getting even more attention. It'll be like an admission to anyone in the crypto space that the BitShares Exchange is really the thing everyone should be paying attention to. The government would have to "ban" BTSX while leaving the other cryptos untouched. What's the distinction between the two? How could that law be written?
Quote from: luckybit on August 31, 2014, 09:34:04 amQuote from: bitmeat on August 31, 2014, 05:58:44 amI think the peg will work well. From regulatory perspective, I'm not sure how it will play out, very gray area. Sounds like I3 has done their homework, but remains to be seen what new rulings may come out of this experiment.New rulings? No law has been broken and there is nothing to regulate. Fiat isn't being exchanged, there's no actual securities involved, and to regulate this would be like regulating World of Warcraft only more difficult because there is no CEO to go after.I hear you luckybit, but that's more wishful thinking than reality. You mean to tell me you haven't seen the governments abuse their own laws?The moment you have something that allows private transfer of value (TITAN) and becomes big, they will work hard to find a way to shut it down.They can block all the gateways. And if there is no inflow of BTC -> BTSX and USD -> BitUSD, the prediction market won't matter anymore.Then it really would be just a game as you described. I'm not saying this is a problem right now, but if it gets to a $1B market cap, you bet your ass people will start paying attention and look into it very seriously.BTER.com is a .com domain. It can be seized, and probably will be at some point. Unless they use BDNS. If Cryptsy gets a letter in the mail to stop BTSX trading, trust me it will.Where I am going with this is that, I would like to see DACSUN/I3 get big companies on board, like the Overstock we heard talked about before. And work towards regulation friendly solutions, so they don't get a bite in the ass later on.
Quote from: bitmeat on August 31, 2014, 05:58:44 amI think the peg will work well. From regulatory perspective, I'm not sure how it will play out, very gray area. Sounds like I3 has done their homework, but remains to be seen what new rulings may come out of this experiment.New rulings? No law has been broken and there is nothing to regulate. Fiat isn't being exchanged, there's no actual securities involved, and to regulate this would be like regulating World of Warcraft only more difficult because there is no CEO to go after.
I think the peg will work well. From regulatory perspective, I'm not sure how it will play out, very gray area. Sounds like I3 has done their homework, but remains to be seen what new rulings may come out of this experiment.
I hear you luckybit, but that's more wishful thinking than reality. You mean to tell me you haven't seen the governments abuse their own laws?The moment you have something that allows private transfer of value (TITAN) and becomes big, they will work hard to find a way to shut it down.They can block all the gateways. And if there is no inflow of BTC -> BTSX and USD -> BitUSD, the prediction market won't matter anymore.Then it really would be just a game as you described. I'm not saying this is a problem right now, but if it gets to a $1B market cap, you bet your ass people will start paying attention and look into it very seriously.BTER.com is a .com domain. It can be seized, and probably will be at some point. Unless they use BDNS. If Cryptsy gets a letter in the mail to stop BTSX trading, trust me it will.Where I am going with this is that, I would like to see DACSUN/I3 get big companies on board, like the Overstock we heard talked about before. And work towards regulation friendly solutions, so they don't get a bite in the ass later on.
Quote from: Akado on August 31, 2014, 02:58:51 pmQuote from: bluebit on August 31, 2014, 02:41:19 pmOnce BTSX is listed on BTC China, it's all over for Bitcoin. The volumes that BTSX will experience on there will be the tipping point.BTC China only trades with BTC and LTC, I'm really skeptical about them adding btsX any time soon.. It's something I would definetely love to see but I really doubt it..Yes, I think 'BTC China's CEO, Bobby Lee, is the elder brother of litecoin inventor Charles Lee', so there is maybe a conflict of interest there that will be hard to overcome at first, but eventually they will add BTSX I think.
Quote from: bluebit on August 31, 2014, 02:41:19 pmOnce BTSX is listed on BTC China, it's all over for Bitcoin. The volumes that BTSX will experience on there will be the tipping point.BTC China only trades with BTC and LTC, I'm really skeptical about them adding btsX any time soon.. It's something I would definetely love to see but I really doubt it..
Once BTSX is listed on BTC China, it's all over for Bitcoin. The volumes that BTSX will experience on there will be the tipping point.
Quote from: Shentistdo you not?I want to believe. I feel as though I don't know enough about market dynamics to come to any sort of educated conclusion. However, I do know that if this little experiment works out and BitAssets hold their pegs, BTSX is going to skyrocket in value. Solving the volatility issue is the holy grail and (in my opinion) the only thing holding crypto back from achieving new highs.
do you not?
Hahaha, nobody sell to exchanges this time, ONLY BITUSD ALLOWED