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Please excuse me for interjecting here as I do not understand the comments that have not been translated to English. In response to the suggestion that PTS should be switched to a user-issued asset under BTS, I made the following points in another thread that I wish to share here:* A user-issued asset under BTS would not be a viable deflationary currency-DAC competitor to Bitcoin.* A user-issued asset under BTS would not be a viable sharedrop instrument for 3rd party DACs that have competitive overlap with BTS.* A user-issued asset under BTS would not be a useful resource for 3rd party developers seeking a reference implementation of the Bitshares Toolkit that can be easily forked and sharedropped (without all of the layers of functionality built atop it by BTS). See for example our new "import by signed message" functionality that is the 1st of its kind. PTS as a token would be divorced entirely from PTS as a development community and resource.* A user-issued asset under BTS would, over time, narrow the demographic of PTS holders from being DAC-agnostic to being exclusively pro-BTS.Thanks to all for the objective approach you have taken here.
Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 08, 2014, 04:50:44 amHi cube, Sorry to modify the title of your post. I am in support of your work. However, the previous title is very misleading, according to the feedback of Chinese community. First of all ,PTS is 原型股 in Chinese, not 比特股,比特股is specifically for BTS. In addition, we believe that nothing is "mandatory" except that it is updated by 3I dev teams. DPOS version PTS should compete with other 3rd party versions of PTS, for example, bitPTS.Please don't change the title back again, otherwise, I will lock the topic. Thanks for your understanding.你好 cube,很不好意思把你的帖子标题改掉。原标题是比特股PTS强制升级与快照公告。 这个标题非常有误导性,首先,BTS是比特股,PTS是原型股,你把这两个搞混了。其次,作为一个第三方DAC,它的升级不是强制的,应该是跟其他PTS的升级版,比如bitPTS公平竞争的,只有官方团队发布的产品才能够强制大家升级。请尊重版规,不要再改回去,否则我会锁住帖子。谢谢合作!Hi ripplexiaoshan,Firstly, let me apologise for the confusion caused by the poor translation of 'Bitshares PTS' to '比特股PTS'. As you have pointed out, it should be 'PTS 原型股'.PTS Upgrade has wide support, including that from I3. We respect I3's wish to let the OLD PTS-POW to be 'switched off' and to be taken over by the new PTS-DPOS. This will avoid further confusion and possible scammers who could cheat unawared users by selling the old PTS-POW coins after PTS-DPOS goes LIVE. The mandatory PTS Upgrade would achieve this goal.With all due respect, I do not think I have broken any forum rules by keeping the original title of the same post in the English community. The word 'mandatory' itself is neutral and has no association with any entities. The English-community section accepts the original title in full while the Chinese-community section insists to change it. The Bitshare forum in essence is engaging in double-standards. You are a highly-regarded BTS Chinese community leader. I appreciate you putting a formal request to the author. I respect your wish and I would keep the changed title.翻译:ripplexiaoshan, 你好。首先, 让我为因翻译不佳('Bitshares PTS' 翻译为 '比特股PTS') 而造成的混乱表示歉意。如你所指出的, 它应该是 "PTS原型股"。PTS升级具有广泛的支持,包括I3。我们尊重I3的愿望,让PTS-POW '关闭'并让它被新PTS-DPOS替换。这将避免进一步的混乱和骗子在PTS-DPOS实施后出售旧PTS-POW币(原型股)给不知晓的用户。PTS强制升级将实现这一目标。与所有应有的尊重, 我不认为因为为了保持原有英文社区帖子的标题,这就打破了版规。'强制'-这个词本身是中性的,与任何实体没有关联。英文社区论坛分节接受帖子完整的原题而中文社区节坚持要改变它。Bitshare论坛在本质上是搞双重标准。你是一个备受推崇的BitShare中文社区领导者。我很感谢你正式请求笔者。我尊重你的愿望,我会保持改变的标题。
Hi cube, Sorry to modify the title of your post. I am in support of your work. However, the previous title is very misleading, according to the feedback of Chinese community. First of all ,PTS is 原型股 in Chinese, not 比特股,比特股is specifically for BTS. In addition, we believe that nothing is "mandatory" except that it is updated by 3I dev teams. DPOS version PTS should compete with other 3rd party versions of PTS, for example, bitPTS.Please don't change the title back again, otherwise, I will lock the topic. Thanks for your understanding.你好 cube,很不好意思把你的帖子标题改掉。原标题是比特股PTS强制升级与快照公告。 这个标题非常有误导性,首先,BTS是比特股,PTS是原型股,你把这两个搞混了。其次,作为一个第三方DAC,它的升级不是强制的,应该是跟其他PTS的升级版,比如bitPTS公平竞争的,只有官方团队发布的产品才能够强制大家升级。请尊重版规,不要再改回去,否则我会锁住帖子。谢谢合作!
Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 08, 2014, 04:28:49 amQuote from: geyu on December 08, 2014, 02:15:47 amBTS和PTS现在哪个叫比特股 ?一直以来都是BTS叫比特股,PTS叫原型股。Sorry for the confusion. "比特股 PTS" was a direct English-to-Chinese translation of 'Bitshares PTS'. My Chinese is not good. It should be '原型股'.
Quote from: geyu on December 08, 2014, 02:15:47 amBTS和PTS现在哪个叫比特股 ?一直以来都是BTS叫比特股,PTS叫原型股。
BTS和PTS现在哪个叫比特股 ?
Hi cube, Sorry to modify the title of your post. I am in support of your work. However, the previous title is very misleading, according to the feedback of Chinese community. First of all ,PTS is 原型股 in Chinese, not 比特股,比特股is specifically for BTS. In addition, we believe that nothing is "mandatory" except that it is updated by 3I dev teams. DPOS version PTS should compete with other 3rd party versions of PTS, for example, bitPTS.Please don't change the title back again, otherwise, I will remove it completely. Thanks for your understanding.你好 cube,很不好意思把你的帖子标题改掉。原标题是比特股PTS强制升级与快照公告。 这个标题非常有误导性,首先,BTS是比特股,PTS是原型股,你把这两个搞混了。其次,作为一个第三方DAC,它的升级不是强制的,应该是跟其他PTS的升级版,比如bitPTS公平竞争的,只有官方团队发布的产品才能够强制大家升级。请尊重版规,不要再改回去,否则我会完全删除帖子。谢谢合作!
Quote from: cn-members on December 07, 2014, 02:27:00 pmQuote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 02:08:52 pmQuote from: cn-members on December 07, 2014, 04:57:31 amQuote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 04:19:34 amQuote from: BTSdac on December 07, 2014, 03:56:39 amQuote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pmThe Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network,no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to,pts was dead ,we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non- value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS,this project should use other name.Who did they sell to? Who lost and who gained in that trade? Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other? If so, which side?All information was available to everyone.We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.The community discussed it every step of the way.And everyone made their own conclusions.I think the most important issue here is to get the facts straighten up . The market need to hear a full story .1、Do you , Stan , expect (honestly, not diplomatically ) there will be a valuable DAC like Play and Music in the future to air drop on DPOS PTS ? Instead of some DAC that lack of long term plan and vision like Lottoshares ?The whole reason people hold PTS in the first place is because they might get a bite from a valuable DAC , not just anything that drops 10% on their head . 2、Will I3 or AGS fund provide promotion , marketing and development fund to attract those developer out there to share drop on DPOS PTS ? (simple answer , yes or no ).3、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 claim responsibility for anything negative may cause by DPOS PTS ?4、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 maintain this project even if it fails ? (I'm not asking what the community would do to save it ) .5、Do you think it's appropriate for us to address the market specifically that "DPOS PTS is not a I3 product and it's not being maintain by the Bitshares team and will not be given any financial support . The Bitshares team will not claim any formal responsibility for this DPOS PTS ."It is true that PTS will not have that degree of support any more, but in some ways that may be good. If I understand correctly, it is now being positioned as a neutral demographic of people who appreciate and understand DACs - one that any developer can feel comfortable honoring. And it still has many advantages over all the first-generation altcoins out there, as I summarized here:https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11877.msg159163#msg159163right .... so can you think of a reason even at its prime days why PTS only attracted Lottoshares to drop on PTS for free (music,play,dns,vote don't count free because I3 and AGS gave them something in return , funds , promotions ) Tons of alt-coins out there , only Lottoshares dropped on PTS for free , and it wasn't even a decent drop (lock in period , most people haven't got the chance to access the balance )Sparkle is giving 33% on initial supply to PTS 14/12/2014 https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?board=80.0Ron Paul Money just gave 10% to PTS. They use 05/11 snapshot, but in future guys like this will drop on the active PTS https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=848182.0Also PTS is not just a sharedrop token now. PTS will also be a well distributed, no inflation, DPOS crypto-currency. That also has a value that a slow POW PTS didn't have.
Quote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 02:08:52 pmQuote from: cn-members on December 07, 2014, 04:57:31 amQuote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 04:19:34 amQuote from: BTSdac on December 07, 2014, 03:56:39 amQuote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pmThe Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network,no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to,pts was dead ,we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non- value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS,this project should use other name.Who did they sell to? Who lost and who gained in that trade? Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other? If so, which side?All information was available to everyone.We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.The community discussed it every step of the way.And everyone made their own conclusions.I think the most important issue here is to get the facts straighten up . The market need to hear a full story .1、Do you , Stan , expect (honestly, not diplomatically ) there will be a valuable DAC like Play and Music in the future to air drop on DPOS PTS ? Instead of some DAC that lack of long term plan and vision like Lottoshares ?The whole reason people hold PTS in the first place is because they might get a bite from a valuable DAC , not just anything that drops 10% on their head . 2、Will I3 or AGS fund provide promotion , marketing and development fund to attract those developer out there to share drop on DPOS PTS ? (simple answer , yes or no ).3、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 claim responsibility for anything negative may cause by DPOS PTS ?4、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 maintain this project even if it fails ? (I'm not asking what the community would do to save it ) .5、Do you think it's appropriate for us to address the market specifically that "DPOS PTS is not a I3 product and it's not being maintain by the Bitshares team and will not be given any financial support . The Bitshares team will not claim any formal responsibility for this DPOS PTS ."It is true that PTS will not have that degree of support any more, but in some ways that may be good. If I understand correctly, it is now being positioned as a neutral demographic of people who appreciate and understand DACs - one that any developer can feel comfortable honoring. And it still has many advantages over all the first-generation altcoins out there, as I summarized here:https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11877.msg159163#msg159163right .... so can you think of a reason even at its prime days why PTS only attracted Lottoshares to drop on PTS for free (music,play,dns,vote don't count free because I3 and AGS gave them something in return , funds , promotions ) Tons of alt-coins out there , only Lottoshares dropped on PTS for free , and it wasn't even a decent drop (lock in period , most people haven't got the chance to access the balance )
Quote from: cn-members on December 07, 2014, 04:57:31 amQuote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 04:19:34 amQuote from: BTSdac on December 07, 2014, 03:56:39 amQuote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pmThe Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network,no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to,pts was dead ,we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non- value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS,this project should use other name.Who did they sell to? Who lost and who gained in that trade? Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other? If so, which side?All information was available to everyone.We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.The community discussed it every step of the way.And everyone made their own conclusions.I think the most important issue here is to get the facts straighten up . The market need to hear a full story .1、Do you , Stan , expect (honestly, not diplomatically ) there will be a valuable DAC like Play and Music in the future to air drop on DPOS PTS ? Instead of some DAC that lack of long term plan and vision like Lottoshares ?The whole reason people hold PTS in the first place is because they might get a bite from a valuable DAC , not just anything that drops 10% on their head . 2、Will I3 or AGS fund provide promotion , marketing and development fund to attract those developer out there to share drop on DPOS PTS ? (simple answer , yes or no ).3、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 claim responsibility for anything negative may cause by DPOS PTS ?4、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 maintain this project even if it fails ? (I'm not asking what the community would do to save it ) .5、Do you think it's appropriate for us to address the market specifically that "DPOS PTS is not a I3 product and it's not being maintain by the Bitshares team and will not be given any financial support . The Bitshares team will not claim any formal responsibility for this DPOS PTS ."It is true that PTS will not have that degree of support any more, but in some ways that may be good. If I understand correctly, it is now being positioned as a neutral demographic of people who appreciate and understand DACs - one that any developer can feel comfortable honoring. And it still has many advantages over all the first-generation altcoins out there, as I summarized here:https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11877.msg159163#msg159163
Quote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 04:19:34 amQuote from: BTSdac on December 07, 2014, 03:56:39 amQuote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pmThe Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network,no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to,pts was dead ,we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non- value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS,this project should use other name.Who did they sell to? Who lost and who gained in that trade? Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other? If so, which side?All information was available to everyone.We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.The community discussed it every step of the way.And everyone made their own conclusions.I think the most important issue here is to get the facts straighten up . The market need to hear a full story .1、Do you , Stan , expect (honestly, not diplomatically ) there will be a valuable DAC like Play and Music in the future to air drop on DPOS PTS ? Instead of some DAC that lack of long term plan and vision like Lottoshares ?The whole reason people hold PTS in the first place is because they might get a bite from a valuable DAC , not just anything that drops 10% on their head . 2、Will I3 or AGS fund provide promotion , marketing and development fund to attract those developer out there to share drop on DPOS PTS ? (simple answer , yes or no ).3、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 claim responsibility for anything negative may cause by DPOS PTS ?4、Will I3 or the active developers of I3 maintain this project even if it fails ? (I'm not asking what the community would do to save it ) .5、Do you think it's appropriate for us to address the market specifically that "DPOS PTS is not a I3 product and it's not being maintain by the Bitshares team and will not be given any financial support . The Bitshares team will not claim any formal responsibility for this DPOS PTS ."
Quote from: BTSdac on December 07, 2014, 03:56:39 amQuote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pmThe Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network,no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to,pts was dead ,we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non- value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS,this project should use other name.Who did they sell to? Who lost and who gained in that trade? Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other? If so, which side?All information was available to everyone.We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.The community discussed it every step of the way.And everyone made their own conclusions.
Quote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pmThe Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network,no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to,pts was dead ,we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non- value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS,this project should use other name.
The Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.
Quote from: Stan on December 07, 2014, 04:19:34 amQuote from: BTSdac on December 07, 2014, 03:56:39 amQuote from: alphaBar on December 06, 2014, 06:27:58 pmThe Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.this project cannot delegate pts , because Miner pts always is existed in p2p network,no matter it die or live. but in many Chinese investor mind , pts had finished all task community give to,pts was dead ,we accept this like all thing in our universe would die。but they have question:why pts is removed from exchange ,why pts is live again. removed from exchange is decided by exchange site, but it must acc. to information our community expressed .so I worry that our community would lose much honor in many Chinese mind. since price of pts was in period of low price after 11.05 .they think pts become non- value and sold it at low price. make pts live again ,price was up. maybe I can understand it . but to normal investor without much information.in his mind just as :"pts was dead they sold at low price。 after they sold pts is live price is up." we hurt them would hurt us finally.so i am not interested with this project though I have some pts now. even I think name should not include PTS,this project should use other name.Who did they sell to? Who lost and who gained in that trade? Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other? If so, which side?All information was available to everyone.We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.The community discussed it every step of the way.And everyone made their own conclusions.yes each information is posted in forum in real time basically. it is fair to everyone., but it is too complex to normal investor. they don`t like so many change.
我赞成log的观点。赞成版主更改标题以提示社区。原标题《比特股PTS强制升级与快照公告》会对不明真相的社区成员和外界造成严重误导。请大家以及交易所一定要认识到:这个项目并非来自3i或核心开发团队。我个人认为pts的使命已经完成,11.5就是它的最终归属。任何人都可以基于开源的toolkit进行DAC开发,但不应该给他的项目取名叫Bitshares PTS,更不能叫强制升级。我对这个项目的动机存疑,对它可能会对社区造成的危害表示担忧。在开发者更改Bitshares PTS这个名字之前,我强烈反对这个项目
翻译:Who did they sell to? 他们卖给谁?Who lost and who gained in that trade? 在这个贸易,谁输了,谁收益了?Was one side unfairly taking advantage of the other? 有其中一方不公平对待另一方吗?If so, which side?如果有, 是那一方?All information was available to everyone.所有的信息已提供给大家。We all watched the the thinking evolve in real time.我们都即时的观看了思维进化。The community discussed it every step of the way.社区已讨论它的每一步。And everyone made their own conclusions.每个人都也做出了自己的结论。
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I3 are no longer custodians of PTS, but they are in full support of the project. Many people are conflating these two things.I3’s primary focus going forward will be BTS, but some of their devs have offered resources to the project already. Toast has offered development support in his free time, Cass has helped with the website, Testz supports the project, Stan and Dan have returned all funds from the BitShares Trust and both have expressed support for the project. There were potential regulatory risks associated with PTS funding and continued custodianship by I3. The major exchanges and services have also expressed support. Coinmarketcap is updated and BTER will honor the snapshot. As you can see, this project is about as official as things can get without explicit I3 ownership.* A standalone DPOS blockchain makes PTS the only DAC-agnostic, non-inflationary DPOS chain and the best candidate for sharedropping by 3rd party DACs. * PTS will also be the most logical chain to fork by 3rd party DACs. Our developer pc has already implemented an “import by signed message” feature which exists in no other crypto and is an absolute necessity for sharecropping DACs. See here: http://pts.cubeconnex.com/index.php?topic=37As for the questions about incentive structure for running delegates, I think it is important to note that the incentives are exactly the same as those of the prior BTSX chain. As adoption and market cap grows, the incentives and decentralization of the network also increase.The Chinese community has been integral to the success of PTS. We invite you to join us in growing the Bitshares ecosystem by building a strong, stable, and efficient PTS.
Quote from: logxing on December 06, 2014, 03:22:15 pmQuote from: cube on December 06, 2014, 02:41:45 pmQuote from: logxing on December 06, 2014, 12:37:07 pm强制升级和公告这些词非官方不应使用。PTS升级为DPOS已经计划了很长时间。 只是I3没有人有时间去做。我们的项目有I3, BM, Stan 的全力支持。 一直照顾PTS POW网络的人-testz和freetrade也全力支持和帮助PTS DPOS项目。 在官方方面, 这以足够了。请勿误导其他人,很久以前3I确实有计划把PTS转为DPOS。但是后来决定功能合并后,3I的态度已经非常明确了。PTS已与3I无关。后续的DAC有自己的权利决定使用PTS115快照,或者POW的PTS当时快照,或者各种各样的DPOS改造的PTS(肯定不止你一家会做DPOS的PTS)。我个人会尽我所能推动115快照的使用,因为我认为这是使投资者真正注目于项目价值本身最好的方式,他人当然也可有自己的看法。
Quote from: cube on December 06, 2014, 02:41:45 pmQuote from: logxing on December 06, 2014, 12:37:07 pm强制升级和公告这些词非官方不应使用。PTS升级为DPOS已经计划了很长时间。 只是I3没有人有时间去做。我们的项目有I3, BM, Stan 的全力支持。 一直照顾PTS POW网络的人-testz和freetrade也全力支持和帮助PTS DPOS项目。 在官方方面, 这以足够了。请勿误导其他人,很久以前3I确实有计划把PTS转为DPOS。但是后来决定功能合并后,3I的态度已经非常明确了。PTS已与3I无关。后续的DAC有自己的权利决定使用PTS115快照,或者POW的PTS当时快照,或者各种各样的DPOS改造的PTS(肯定不止你一家会做DPOS的PTS)。我个人会尽我所能推动115快照的使用,因为我认为这是使投资者真正注目于项目价值本身最好的方式,他人当然也可有自己的看法。
Quote from: logxing on December 06, 2014, 12:37:07 pm强制升级和公告这些词非官方不应使用。PTS升级为DPOS已经计划了很长时间。 只是I3没有人有时间去做。我们的项目有I3, BM, Stan 的全力支持。 一直照顾PTS POW网络的人-testz和freetrade也全力支持和帮助PTS DPOS项目。 在官方方面, 这以足够了。
强制升级和公告这些词非官方不应使用。
比特时代还上架pts的交易吗?
1个代表1个月的收益有多少?一台服务器一个月的租用费用多少?
* Delegate payment is expected to be low. Running a dedicated computer or VPS is most likely not economically viable. Using spare resources on a machine that's available anyway may generate additional income.
说的都是屁话!我反映的问题,3i又不是不知道。代表收益怎么保障1 每年增发pts给代表发工资?2 一台服务器运行10个代表?靠意淫能解决问题吗?
一个dpos 的山寨币,能找得到101个代表吗?Can DPOS find 101 delegates willing to support the network ?
这是真棒。 做的很好!我期待着看到PTS近快回到20强。我们喜悦看到了灰色甘道夫再现为白色甘道夫!This is awesome guys. Nice job!I look forward to seeing PTS back in the Top 20 soon.Gandalf the Grey reappearing to our delight as Gandalf the White!Quote from: alphaBar on November 29, 2014, 04:59:45 pmHi Dan, Stan, and testz. Testz asked me to share the new PTS website and announcement message with you. Please keep the website and the announcement private and give me your feedback as quickly as possible, as we must announce soon in order to keep our planned snapshot date of December 14th. Here is the message in its current form:Dan, Stan, testz, 你们好。 Testz要求我与你分享新的持比特股PTS网站公布的消息。 请保持网站的公告私人。 请尽快给我你的评论。 我们必须尽快公布...[...]
Hi Dan, Stan, and testz. Testz asked me to share the new PTS website and announcement message with you. Please keep the website and the announcement private and give me your feedback as quickly as possible, as we must announce soon in order to keep our planned snapshot date of December 14th. Here is the message in its current form:Dan, Stan, testz, 你们好。 Testz要求我与你分享新的持比特股PTS网站公布的消息。 请保持网站的公告私人。 请尽快给我你的评论。 我们必须尽快公布...[...]