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HOWEVER ...

The fact that Toast believes this just shows how little I3 delivered on the idea of the "bitshares toolkit".  Since forking BTSX wallet is the toolkit and Toast thinks it is in such a state no one could take it over, then IMO it follows that they failed on the bitshares toolkit.  This is partially why I want to support Alphabar's attempt even when I am skeptical about other issues surrounding Alphabar-PTS.

Unless of course the goal was to set up the illusion of being an open source project when in reality there was no intention of making the toolkit easy to use for developers that want to fork.

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General Discussion / Re: Ray Kurzweil
« on: November 04, 2014, 12:09:39 pm »
This is why a whitepaper would be important. It's a sales pitch to people like this.

Agreed 100%.  We need a "package" of materials for different demographics.   However, I am not so sure it is a smart idea to pitch to people like this until we have everything working as it needs to...or else they will simply use their ample funds to hire developers and fork us...

I'm honestly not worried about that. These people are already time-poor. They're more likely to buy shares and jump on the BitShares train.


hm... what about Mr. Overstock?  Wouldn't you say he is in the same position?  Not sure I Completely agree...though I can't honestly say I do not see the merits either.  Why not err on the side of caution and make it go "viral" with the "common folk" first, then look to the big guys when they realize it would be too hard to steal away our following?  Just my two bts, of course, but we all know I tend to be a "verrry little bit" on the "cautious" side :P

If we stay cautious, we'll never get momentum to begin with. We need to be bold and controversial otherwise we will die in obscurity.


 +5%

Maybe Dan should space dive from the stratosphere with a suit that says, Sponsored by Bitshares. Maybe he'll go faster than the speed of sound like that Google executive did. Forgot who it was. It was just recent too.

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General Discussion / Re: Ray Kurzweil
« on: November 04, 2014, 12:04:26 pm »

To have the same computational power in the year 1984 would have cost $183,954,000


Oh the irony of you choosing the year 1984...lol.

That's right I'm illuminati, infiltrating BTS from within devising a plan to turn BTS against you. Lol jk

Just know that whatever tools the elites use against us we can us against them. Encryption works. The universe believes in encryption.

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Marketplace / Re: bitUSD for prepaid visa gift cards, interest?
« on: November 03, 2014, 07:55:55 am »
you don't have to ship actual cards you can just use Gyft.com to send gift cards. Unless of course it has to be a visa gift card.

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General Discussion / Re: Ray Kurzweil
« on: November 03, 2014, 07:32:59 am »
Might be interesting to get this futurist involved

http://transcendentman.com
He is a director of engineering at Google now, unlikely will get involved with anything like Bitshares.

I agree. He is working on bringing natural language processing to a more conversational state at Google. Have you guys seen the movie Her that came out about a year ago? He is at Google to make that a reality and according to him you will be having a conversation with your "search engine" by about 2018-2020.

He makes his predictions based upon the fact that computing power doubles every 12-18 months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS

My Galaxy S5 is capable of 4.3 G/FLOPS.

To have the same computational power in the year 1984 would have cost $183,954,000

The same computing power in my Galaxy S5 would have cost over $35,000,000,000,000 in the year 1961.

Some people on this forum were alive back then. $35 trillion is double the GDP of the United States.

Click the link I posted above and read the section that shows "Cost of Computing." Computing power has gotten smaller and cheaper at an exponential rate.

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General Discussion / Re: Number of Accounts per Day
« on: November 02, 2014, 06:37:01 am »
Opie and Anthony did an assault on the media years back where they had people show up at live shots in NYC and hold signs and get camera time yelling "OPIE ANTHONY!". It worked and got them a good amount of attention. An unfortunate aspect of our culture is that is generally requires something extreme most of the time to go "viral". There-in lies the problem, how do you make a PROFESSIONAL extreme viral video that highlights the concepts of BTS? Or just forget the professional and go for anything that gets attention?

I'll show you how: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyYJlYxVJDc

Lol that guy has many viral videos. First saw him in 2012 around the presidential election. He made an Obama dance video.

You know there are many youtube people that get more views in one day with one video than what major news channels get during prime time. Phillip De Franco gets like 500 thousand to 1 million views for every video he uploads.

I remember reading an article that described what it is that makes videos viral. I think there was also a TED talk about it. I don't remember everything but it said that if it is something novel it has a good chance of becoming viral. That guy's videos all seem pretty novel to me.

Selling your last name is something that this guy did.
https://buymylastname.com/

He sold his last name for one year for $50,000. Imagine selling your last name in exchange for BitUSD.
I thought about doing it but don't know if I would really want to.
Notice his last name right now is SurfrApp.

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General Discussion / Re: Number of Accounts per Day
« on: November 02, 2014, 01:13:19 am »
Thank you! Image helps with visualization too.

I think one of those "shameless publicity stunts" can be something like having a giant Bitshares logo, inflatable balloon appear at times square or something. Alternatively, I can just run across the Football field during this upcoming superbowel with a BTS logo flag.

We're looking for some qualified volunteers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzoUu7w-YM

I have the physique of the basketball players in the video. I think I qualify lol.
I don't want to get tackled by the linemen though if I were to do it.

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General Discussion / Re: Number of Accounts per Day
« on: November 02, 2014, 01:11:26 am »
I don't know about anyone else but when I hear or read the term, "marketing push" I think about pushing something to people that they don't want or need. I think that using the term "marketing push" has a negative connotation. Maybe its just me and I'm not a marketing guy so I really don't even know.  :P

I'd agree with you if "push" were being used as a verb (as in "let's push this on them"). But "push" as a noun speaks much more to a campaign, and to the incredibly hard work that goes into it ("the upcoming marketing push"). I think it's very appropriate here.

 +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Number of Accounts per Day
« on: November 02, 2014, 12:49:27 am »
Thank you! Image helps with visualization too.

I think one of those "shameless publicity stunts" can be something like having a giant Bitshares logo, inflatable balloon appear at times square or something. Alternatively, I can just run across the Football field during this upcoming superbowel with a BTS logo flag. 

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General Discussion / Re: Longtime Investor - I am out
« on: November 01, 2014, 11:47:11 pm »
OP lost all credibility when he recommended NXT.

-.-

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General Discussion / Re: Number of Accounts per Day
« on: November 01, 2014, 11:38:13 pm »
I don't know about anyone else but when I hear or read the term, "marketing push" I think about pushing something to people that they don't want or need. I think that using the term "marketing push" has a negative connotation. Maybe its just me and I'm not a marketing guy so I really don't even know.  :P


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General Discussion / Re: Please don't rebrand BTSX to just BitShares
« on: November 01, 2014, 11:28:29 pm »
Every major tech company seems to have two syllable names.

Facebook
Google
Twitter
Apple
Bitcoin

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General Discussion / Suggestion to Investors
« on: November 01, 2014, 11:18:39 pm »
My suggestion is to not keep or invest in PTS prior to the snapshot. Move it over to BTS. You will have your funds locked up during the whole vesting period. (has this changed?) At the end of the day the interest you may gain at the end of the vesting period may not be worth the wait. Take into account the dilution that will happen during the vesting period. I say this because something similar has happened before. Those that invested in AGS prior to the February 28th deadline could have bought BTS during the summer for the same price as AGS pre Feb. 28. Of course I am also aware that AGS earned me vote and dns.

This is just my opinion based upon the information I have or think I have available. You make your own decisions.

The merger makes sense for the long term but given the recent downfall, people are either making the statement that they don't agree with the direction things are heading or they have simply lost trust.

As long as your funds remain liquid you will have greater freedom to vote with your money.

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 "Community is easier to market than company because not everyone cares about corporations but almost everyone wants to be a part of a community. I always saw Bitshares as a community not a company. "


Once again it is the part of our brain regulating emotion that pushes us to act. "Community" appeals to the emotional center of our brain. Appealing to people's emotions is very powerful. I always wondered why people believe in religious fairy tales when religious text are always full of such contradictory nonsense.  It is probably because religion and church appeals to our sense of community and belonging. People don't go to church to listen to the pastor or read a book that deep down they know doesn't make sense. Rather, they attend church for that sense of community. They attend so they can spend time with family and friends. They do so for social reasons.

The success of Bitshares might depend on how we appeal to people's emotions. How do we encourage and create a sense of community beyond what we currently have?

Marketing Bitshares as a business and focusing on the profit motive works as long as those attracted by such motives make money. They won't stick around to help Bitshares grow. They were simply motivated by personal gain. As that Ted video Bytemaster linked to on another thread points out, "They don't care what you do or how you do it, they care about WHY." The "what" and "how" appeal to our most recently evolved rational side, but for most of us it doesn't push us toward action.

What: Bitshares is like a company. How: Bitshares has "shareholders" "employees" and makes a profit.
Why: Bitshares seeks to bring freedom and justice for humanity through distributed software.

Honestly, I think that people really aren't rational and we aren't always seeking personal gain. Humans have too many biases to be rational and if we really were rational there would be no such thing as religious faith or non profit organizations.

I think that what we call capitalism isn't the only way to organize economic life and self interest isn't the only motivator either. Think of the people that contribute to the linux operative system. They aren't getting paid for their work. Some of them may, like those working for Canonical.(They are behind Ubuntu) Think about how Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia housing all of human knowledge. By the way I donate to them on a yearly basis because I believe that we should all have access to human knowledge.

Given certain circumstances capitalism may be the best way to organize scarce resources. After extensive reading I think the collaborative commons will be the best way to organize ourselves going forward because we are moving away from a world of scarcity.


Many have heard or are aware of the Tragedy of the Commons.
However, not many have heard of the Comedy of the Commons. I highly recommend you read the original paper. 

http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2827&context=fss_papers

Quick summarization of the differences between the Tragedy of the Commons and the Comedy of the Commons.

In the tragedy of the commons, each person tries to maximize their own benefit, and the end result is that everyone loses because of overutilization of limited resources. In the comedy of the commons, each person, while getting something for themselves, also (directly or indirectly) contributes back to the common good at the same time.

BitTorrent makes use of the comedy of the commons, since the more people who participate, the better the service gets.


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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares, BitsharesX, bitUSD, etc...
« on: November 01, 2014, 01:14:25 am »
Why would you want to trademark? Is this an open, transparent and collaborative project or is this part of the dinosaur economy?


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