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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 这样的 feed price 机制大家觉得怎么样?
« on: November 21, 2014, 04:55:42 pm »这个想法好,基本解决目前喂价易被炒作的问题。
另外想到一个方案可以按市场权重计算喂价,不是按交易成交量算,而是按交易成交价上下5%的买单卖单深度取最小值作为权重
因为交易量是很容易刷的,但成交价附近5%的深度不容易作假,我觉得作为权重比较保险。
内盘想夺回定价权需要更好的市场深度
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另外想到一个方案可以按市场权重计算喂价,不是按交易成交量算,而是按交易成交价上下5%的买单卖单深度取最小值作为权重
因为交易量是很容易刷的,但成交价附近5%的深度不容易作假,我觉得作为权重比较保险。
内盘想夺回定价权需要更好的市场深度
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我很早就提出了喂价机制的根本性颠倒错误,十几亿的内盘市场被2个亿的比特时代牵着鼻子走。3i有能力开发出来系统,拿出勇气来,开发出挂单机器人,稳定内盘价格上升,带动比特时代交易所价格才是正确道路,不要在喂价的歧路上再走下去,表面看喂价稳定了,实际上导致系统一直无法成长,成交稀少,无法正反馈反
展下去。
关于这点,alt其实一直想不明白,你提的内盘放开风险确实有,但你的喂价确定价格做法深深的套死了bts上涨可能性,举个例子,如果有个小孩在家里无人照顾,一种办法是教育他知识让他明白什么该做,不听坏人的话,有坏人报告父母, 这是制定内盘交易限涨跌幅等规则来解决问题,而你的办法是把孩子绑在床上让他不能动,这样孩子永远无法学到知识,无法自立,完全依赖父母。
通过喂价产生的锚定不是市场自我发现的真锚定,没有尊重交易双方的真实意愿,大多数情况下,bitusd便宜10%都没有买单来买,这极不正常,这其实不是人们不认可bitusd,而是认为bitusd太贵了,bts被砸的太贱了,没有人愿意低价卖掉bts买bitusd。如果把这种交易意愿传导到比特时代,会带动bts价格上涨,这才是正向反馈带动bts上涨,
历史上操纵金融汇率的国家经济都不太健康,bts已经几个月了,该及时考虑换成新的价格机制额,再这么喂下去,真要5分以下了。
因为现在的喂价计算完全依赖外部市场,导致内盘无任何话语权,这样是很不公平的。
但到底哪个市场才是真正有话语权的,我认为靠程序无法自动识别,因此比重会完全由 delegate 自行设定,最终价格按各个市场权重计算。
我准备提供5个市场供选择:内盘USD,内盘CNY,比特时代,云币,比特儿。
另外每个市场的价格会继续按采样取中间值的方式,靠成交量的方式会导致更容易被操控,有时候刷成交量是很容易做到的。采样点个数同样有各个delegate自定义。
大家觉得这样的方式怎么样?
What do you think about my new price feed mechanism ?
The status quo is that the price feed is rely on the external market , so the inner-market has no weight in the price , that is not fair .
But which market should have the real weight ? I think it can't be calculated by a program . So , we should let the delegates decide the weight value , and the final price feed should be calculated by the respective weight value .
I'm planing on offering five markets to weight in : inner-market USD price , inner-market CNY price , BTC38 , Yunbi , Bter .
Further more , the price of each market will continue to choose the sampling of intermediate value , because if we rely on volume it would be more easy to manipulate . The numbers for sampling points should be decided by the individual delegates as well .
How about that ?
Explain to me what is going on?
If you manipulate the feed you can in theory cause some shorts to execute at a slightly better price (say the price was manipulated 1% on an exchange)... but the spread on the internal market is in excess of 1% so the accuracy of the feed below those tolerances is not an issue.
Can you show a time where the feed was "manipulated" by more than 1%?
SO someone finds thin buy orders.. sells to them and price decreases. Then feed is lowered briefly and they can purchase bts shorts below what they should be able to. Market quickly corrects and they have a lead in their shorts because the shorts were bought at a lower price?
I've been trying to understand all the market stuff so this is my guess. Anyone?
"common3": "we use the media price, how many samples need to use",
"median_length": 600
Dan
I found someone in china by manipulating the bitshare's price of bter and btc38 then use the ALT's delegates auto feed to manipulate bts price in our internal market.
please ask delegate to stop using ALT's delegates auto feed script!!!!
ALT's delegates auto feed script need to be revised and add minimum number of sampling price for calculation
Thanks
"common3": "we use the media price, how many samples need to use",
"median_length": 600
哦,预先支付,这可以理解。不过,这个预支算下来有几个月工资?在英文社区看到有帖子提到这个事,但是没找到详细说明,例如为什么要花,如何花。
谁知道的麻烦出来说下,谢谢。
AGS是I3的捐赠收入,捐赠在本年年底就要收35%的税,所以I3直接预先支付给各个开发者,这就是“花光”的意思。
另外,toast想运行一个100% pay rate的受托人是因为没拿到上面的预支工资?怎么不见其他人出来说要做100%受托人。
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我觉得很土啊...
不好意思,我品味有点低.