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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 投票规则优化:主动销毁BTS者,获得额外投票权
« on: August 12, 2020, 07:58:44 am »
这一次你偷偷加代码的事,被人骂惨了,但是我佩服你,明明知道会被骂,还去干,你真是勇士。
希望接下来能组织几个大佬们好好商议,把“锁喂价” 这个怪胎给破了。
希望接下来能组织几个大佬们好好商议,把“锁喂价” 这个怪胎给破了。
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在这个问题上非常支持binggo,巨蟹无脑!你当时满口承诺的不会50%溢价呢?一句“我相信”就让全社区的人都来替你们哥儿几个背锅哪有什么天然的,都是人设计的。
需要平衡的事情多了,我们希望bitCNY足够稳定,但需要抵押者和整个社区为此承担的义务和成本可以接受。
开车高速行进的时候,可不得随时准备踩刹车么?
空军当然希望连环爆仓存在,希望爆仓规则约残酷越好,BTS的存在,不是为了让他们感觉舒服。
BTS一直在不断进化,要学会理解新的思路,新的范式,别固守着什么概念不放。
你看,大佬就是大佬,能够不断解锁新的金融姿势并完全沉浸其中,还能长篇大论,逻辑满满,自圆其说,不得不佩服。
1. 喂价机制能够防止打针就够了,其它的冗余基本都是多余,抵押该低头认输就应该及时低头认输,抵押杠杆市场本来就是这么残酷,至于被别人蓄意做空连环爆仓,这只是没有对应的风险应对机制而已。
用P2P付利息借款来保证抵押仓位不被砸爆完全可以杜绝大部分的做空连环爆(有人想自己被爆那没有办法);
BSIP74与BSIP77可以在很大程度上缓解这种连环爆仓的压力,
BSIP38在一定程度上也平滑了爆仓。
所以现在缺失的是一个合理的喂价机制与借贷防止爆仓机制。
2. 喂价锁是怎么出来的大家都清楚,ZB的天量砸盘逼出来的而已,但是这只是一种应急短时机制,严格来说不应超过24小时,现在留的这个窗口期太长,完全没有意义。
3. 强清这个东西完全是反市场的机制,低补偿更是将其弊端无限放大。人有两把刀,一把捅别人,一把捅自己。
另外就是:抵押者的确在某种程度上把BTS给绑架了。
I don't know it's because of a wrong configure file or a bug of the script.
but this is not the first time it happened. I can't remember how many times I have mentioned the witness.
include this forum and telegram.
nobody want to take responsibility for this error, so I have to remove the witness every time this happen.
I can find some old post about this:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20704.msg267158.html#msg267158
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21315.msg276995.html#msg276995
I get this type of reply every time:many witness publish a wrong price
Since you seem to be an authority on the subject, could you please enlighten us witnesses what the right price is?
I can publish a price of 0.0245 CNY/BTS all week if you think that's better.
This is actually a pretty clever way to manipulate votes to get the end you desire using the proxy system. Promote your proxy by appealing to people's greed (get paid money to vote for me), then vote for this dividend proposal which you know will never get passed, and later vote for your real objective (vote for refund worker to cut off funds to workers). You get voting power from all these people who will likely never pay attention to your full voting slate after their initial proxy to you.vote for refund worker to cut off funds to workers? right ! If the work is unvaluable,vote for vote that worker is dividend for himself ,vote for refund is dividend for everybody. and that worker is the crab whitch tries to crawl up the side of the Crab bucket.
I've never been a particular fan of the proxy idea (I don't like representative government in general), and I guess this shows one problem with a proxy system where you don't have to renew your proxy occasionally.
This story is for all those leaders who feel they are fighting against the tideYeah, you are right . "The rule sets the expectation even if it isn't perfect, the moral enforces the rule“ ,I'v got it .Thinks very much . ,I like this story !QuoteTHE STORY OF THE CRAB BUCKET
One time a man was walking along the beach and say another man fishing in the surf with a bait bucket beside him. As he drew closer, he saw that the bait bucket had no lid and had live crabs inside.
"Why don't you cover your bait bucket so the crabs won't escape?", he said.
"You don't understand.", the man replied, "If there is one crab in the bucket it would surely crawl out very quickly. However, when there are many crabs in the bucket, if one tries to crawl up the side, the others grab hold of it and pull it back down so that it will share the same fate as the rest of them."
So it is with people. If one tries to do something different, get better grades, improve herself, escape her environment, or dream big dreams, other people will try to drag her back down to share their fate.
Moral of the story: Ignore the crabs. Charge ahead and do what is right for you. It may not be easy and you may not succeed as much as you like, but you will NEVER share the same fate as those never try.
We have been enriched by the talents of people who have had less than "perfect" bodies, whether by birth, accident or disease - Helen Keller, F.D. Roosevelt, Stephen Hawking, George Bush, Stevie Wonder, Christopher Reeve, to name just a few. They chose to "climb the crab bucket" instead of listening to others.
I have an alternative view on the Crab Bucket. This is how society enforces rules without having to put a lid on the bucket. Namely, we don't need to make it impossible for someone to vote for themselves because moral outrage will cause others to pull them back into the bucket.
Conclusion: both MORAL and the RULE. The rule sets the expectation even if it isn't perfect, the moral enforces the rule.
Fuck, the crab story is so touching. Complete bullshit, but tear dropping bullshit. For those who have hard time to choose between moral or rules, you guys go check yourself with your doctor for mental disorder. Because a healthy human would never have such contradiction.Have you seen "crazy zootopia" ? everyone looks so nice as it appeared, however ...... as you know, The United States is base on rule . So,we can't demand 38 polo you and me not to get any dividend, right ?
You can joint in this group of believers ,and joint in the original worker at the same time, nobady knows. When the ecosystem need the works, we vote it , but if the work is unvaluable, we get dividend, right ?why don't you consider believers will come and buy BTS for dividend ? this is a good way to get "POS"Good idea
Those are another group of believers.
I had heard for several times , "you don't like bts , you can sell it out , and you leave , let that believers buy in cheaper.....". Unfortunatly , I saw many people left , real believer buy in cheaper ,cheaper than cheaper...If this will come sooner or later, better sooner than later. Let them do it, drive the price down, so real believers can buy in cheaper.That‘s no doubt about that poloniex、btc38 had make a contribution to the BTS,I think they can creat a worker and vote himself ,Sorry .. but I don't get it ..
Why should the shareholders agree for being paid out of the reserves?
IMHO that is just stupid .. it kills the networks ability to fund future profit at the benefits fo some stupid/greedy people ?!?
What am I missing here?
You are missing the fact that sociopaths and psychopaths make up a certain (~3%) part of any population.
Maybe you will say they are crazy ,but The capital market is always crazy.
assuming that some has many BTS, or he can get many votes like this ,creat a worker and vote hinself , but he doesn't work ,so what?
Rely on the moral ? or rely on the rule ?