Wow I actually believed Stan when he said there would be announcements every week until the end of the summer. Remember until they go to sleep. It turns out nothing this week. And last week itself was a non-annoucenment since we already knew about it long ago. So far the announcements have been underwhelming. Nothing really says game changing. And we don't even know what one announcement will do, and this one #4 will occupy yet another annoucenemnt spot at the end of the month. What happened to all those secret memos and partnerships that Stan couldn't tell us about in his previous weekly updates?
All of this only makes me think how a bit hyperboled up bitshares 2.0 has been. Can they deliver on time and effectively? Should we now start questioning the intent the business leaders when they say something? I think this is constructive criticism if not a good example that I wanted to bring this up with the community because I know I am not the only one who feels slighted if not entirely frustrated.
We already know the involvement of dacx but could could/Will we have an annoucement for them? Would be nice to get an update on that+5%
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We already know the involvement of dacx but could could/Will we have an annoucement for them? Would be nice to get an update on that
We already know the involvement of dacx but could could/Will we have an annoucement for them? Would be nice to get an update on that
I've passed the suggestion along... :)
I have the impression that this topic is worth being considered as a summer announcement:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17608.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17608.0.html)
which is a continuation of an older thread:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16490.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16490.0.html)
@Stan, are you in contact with these guys?
IMO they are doing an amazing job and it looks like they are going to deliver on their promises pretty soon.
I have the impression that this topic is worth being considered as a summer announcement:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17608.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17608.0.html)
which is a continuation of an older thread:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16490.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16490.0.html)
@Stan, are you in contact with these guys?
IMO they are doing an amazing job and it looks like they are going to deliver on their promises pretty soon.
I agree.. it might be a good idea to get them onboard with coordinating your announcements. They slipped in yesterday on the forum almost unnoticed!
it was very encouraging to have both Bytemaster and Stan respond to this post. As a community member, I felt incumbent to push us and those around us to achieve more than we at first thought we could. Its a duty and a privilege. That was my goal of this post.
Though, I feel that I need to share my opinion. We should always be skeptical in what we see, hear and do. We always have to be weary of the possibility that CMX and the other teams raise big expectations, and when they can't fully deliver, they compromise, giving the community less than what they get as a payoff from jumping ship. If you don't mentally or financially prepare for this, I tihnk your opening yourself to big vulnerabilities. And big losses.
CMX will be working for another company, another bank, another Fortune 500. The fact that they are a consulting group is very concerning. Consulting don't have as much skin in the game because they have various income streams. The Dev team are free to disagree. But these are the facts. They are diversified from the risks, unlike the community. When it comes down to bottom line budgets and numbers, they can only give their attention to the community, only what is worth their time. They will have to prove (and I certainly believe they will) that its overwise true. That you can have a world-class software consulting group, profitability operating within a self-organizing system.
These are just my thoughts and I mean no hard or fault. I'm just seeing things for what they are right now.
So we might have something from John Underwood, an update from DACx, still, I would be satisfied with 2 - 3 more announcements from other entities getting involved with BitShares but to be honest I don't know if that's asking too much
So we might have something from John Underwood, an update from DACx, still, I would be satisfied with 2 - 3 more announcements from other entities getting involved with BitShares but to be honest I don't know if that's asking too muchAnnouncement from DACx?
So we might have something from John Underwood, an update from DACx, still, I would be satisfied with 2 - 3 more announcements from other entities getting involved with BitShares but to be honest I don't know if that's asking too muchAnnouncement from DACx?
They have been a 100% delegate for a long time now but have not made a post in months.
Another week without announcment. Investors are tired of empty promises and the price is reflecting that. It's crashing hard. What this tells me is that the rise before bitshares 2.0bwas due to profit in the news that there would be many good partnerships announced over the summer. Now investors are correcting that view. They also probably see the announcements given thus far are not satisfactory for where the price is today. So downtrend is possible back to 8mm. That's what the market is saying/
Another week. Price is dropping to its low, accounting in the expectation that there is only three and a half weeks of summer left. The lack of information is being taken into consideration by the market.
Another week. Price is dropping to its low, accounting in the expectation that there is only three and a half weeks of summer left. The lack of information is being taken into consideration by the market.
"just weeks away" - Stan Larimer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163186.msg12253802#msg12253802)
I will admit I thought the price would move based on the announcements but I am more convinced now that big money is driving the price down in preparation of what's coming for bigger gains then what can be realized in this speculative market.
I will admit I thought the price would move based on the announcements but I am more convinced now that big money is driving the price down in preparation of what's coming for bigger gains then what can be realized in this speculative market.
I am not sure if that is the dumbest or the most funny thing I have heard on the forum.
Just the picture of Institutional funds losing money to push down the price of a sub-penny cryptocurrency with a 7 figure marketcap in which nobody outside of this forum has ever heard of, is just outright stupid thinking. On the other hand, thinking anyone beyond your little pow wow of 15-30 people, there esists some elusive "Big Money" player, is hilarious.
I will admit I thought the price would move based on the announcements but I am more convinced now that big money is driving the price down in preparation of what's coming for bigger gains then what can be realized in this speculative market.
I am not sure if that is the dumbest or the most funny thing I have heard on the forum.
Just the picture of Institutional funds losing money to push down the price of a sub-penny cryptocurrency with a 7 figure marketcap in which nobody outside of this forum has ever heard of, is just outright stupid thinking. On the other hand, thinking anyone beyond your little pow wow of 15-30 people, there esists some elusive "Big Money" player, is hilarious.
I agree with newmine on something!
Yes, whenever anyone insist that the price of something is being pushed down in order for someone big to accumulate, I roll my eyes a bit. :) Its a standard way to avoid admitting to yourself that you were wrong about where the price was going. ("I'm not wrong *the market* is wrong!")
If any whale out there cared about Bitshares they would just buy a ton of it currently while its cheap. There is no need to play elaborate games with the price, they could simply buy it at 1/3 of a cent.
You got a better theory Ander for why since the June 8th announcement it has been on a constant downward pressure?
If a manipulator actually was executing this strategy, what you would see is VERY LARGE sell walls, looking all scary, causing others to dump shares into the bids of the whale placing the sell walls. that is not what we are seeing. Instead, its the buywalls that are consistently large, and then someone (people who now hate bitshares and want out apparently), just keep dumping into them over and over.
One of these days we're going to Summer Announce, "Oh, by the way, that test net that's been running flawlessly for the past week, that's now the official release version." Then the 30 day countdown to the Pitch Fork will begin.So you don't know the day or the hour, but you already know the season.
Endure the tribulation and enjoy the rapture..."Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high
DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind
Flash is fast, Flash is cool
Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do
and you don't stop..."
36 (https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-8-14-2015-dev-hangout-s3#t=11:50)"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Angel Investors in AGS, nor the Dev's, but only the Issuer. As it was in the days of Satoshi, so it will be at the coming of the ShareDrop."
Tuck, why is that quote from me your signature now. Lol! :p
Tuck, why is that quote from me your signature now. Lol! :p
You know why. :P
Because you think that DOOM is coming and you want to shove it in my face if I am wrong? :P
Announcements do not have value. Software does. Until 2.0 is official and the referral program is operational, words are just words.
Announcements do not have value. Software does. Until 2.0 is official and the referral program is operational, words are just words.
No, words give the wise insight into what will surely be.
By the time the conditions exist that you describe, the answer will be obvious to everyone and the biggest investment opportunities will have passed.
In some endeavors is pays to be skeptical. But when the open source and test nets and hours of mumble press conferences are happening before your very eyes, skepticism is just a way to avoid doing the hard work of examining the plain evidence for yourself.
This is the way it should be. To the diligent go the rewards. The rest are left saying, "Why don't I ever get a break?"
:)
Well stated +5%Announcements do not have value. Software does. Until 2.0 is official and the referral program is operational, words are just words.
No, words give the wise insight into what will surely be.
By the time the conditions exist that you describe, the answer will be obvious to everyone and the biggest investment opportunities will have passed.
In some endeavors is pays to be skeptical. But when the open source and test nets and hours of mumble press conferences are happening before your very eyes, skepticism is just a way to avoid doing the hard work of examining the plain evidence for yourself.
This is the way it should be. To the diligent go the rewards. The rest are left saying, "Why don't I ever get a break?"
:)
Ander I got another one for you, there is no reason to market or advertise anything at the moment. Anyone that had signed someone up pre-2.0 announcement gets a lifetime membership and there is now 0 incentive to get someone to look at BTS from June 8th until launch, as such we have seen almost no articles/news/interviews other than those that were bought, hell even our own media/marketing delegates have gone into hibernation with claims they are waiting to strike when it means something. This could have been fixed by simply connecting new sign-ups during this downtime to their referrers in 2.0.I almost forgotten this myself. Yeah... there is a lot to this. I remember when I had confirmation of this my entire thought processes initially were around stopping everything and being really disappointed by the decision to handle current refers the way it was decided.
It is noticable that there is less new blood around here and many old regulars have moved on, when we were top 4 we would get random investors, contributors and people checking us out, now that we are below the fold (similar to Google search results) we don't have that visibility and therefore few new buyers.
AKA The Perfect Storm ;D
i am going to wait a week to respond to this appropriately.I will admit I thought the price would move based on the announcements but I am more convinced now that big money is driving the price down in preparation of what's coming for bigger gains then what can be realized in this speculative market.
I am not sure if that is the dumbest or the most funny thing I have heard on the forum.
Just the picture of Institutional funds losing money to push down the price of a sub-penny cryptocurrency with a 7 figure marketcap in which nobody outside of this forum has ever heard of, is just outright stupid thinking. On the other hand, thinking anyone beyond your little pow wow of 15-30 people, there esists some elusive "Big Money" player, is hilarious.
I agree with newmine on something!
Yes, whenever anyone insist that the price of something is being pushed down in order for someone big to accumulate, I roll my eyes a bit. :) Its a standard way to avoid admitting to yourself that you were wrong about where the price was going. ("I'm not wrong *the market* is wrong!")
If any whale out there cared about Bitshares they would just buy a ton of it currently while its cheap. There is no need to play elaborate games with the price, they could simply buy it at 1/3 of a cent.
Poor newmine.. needs to go back a week to dig up something to fud with.
Ander buying into the low.
It's actually not my idea.. but one that was presented by someone who is far more involved in the markets than myself. It was presented here in forums.. I don't just watch bitshares... it holds true for the tiny little crypto world in which we live. Any trader with a tiny little slush fund could play all the markets at the same time except for the bigger ones.. the smaller volume ones though are well within reach.
You got a better theory Ander for why since the June 8th announcement it has been on a constant downward pressure? You really think a $50-$100k daily volume cannot be easily played by a handful if not just one trader at a bank with a $100m slush who has chosen to follow cryptos as part of his earnings?
That is far more likely than a 'market of 15-30 people here' as newmine like to put it.
Ultimately, we are playing this game for the long haul and so we generally don't do things only to affect short term market price.shame on you.BTS price drop 10X in a year.fuck you.
Ultimately, we are playing this game for the long haul and so we generally don't do things only to affect short term market price.shame on you.BTS price drop 10X in a year.fuck you.
you forgot last year they promised a stable 1.0?1.0 is shit,buggy,all the ags money was feeding dog like them.Ultimately, we are playing this game for the long haul and so we generally don't do things only to affect short term market price.shame on you.BTS price drop 10X in a year.fuck you.
We're only a few weeks away from the release. All you're doing is being an annoyance and its clear that you're simply peddling a negative agenda for whatever your reason may be. As you so aptly put it "f*ck you" and go peddle your nonsense elsewhere. :-*
Ultimately, we are playing this game for the long haul and so we generally don't do things only to affect short term market price.shame on you.BTS price drop 10X in a year.fuck you.
Stan kept telling everyone good thing is coming,but nothing is coming.
BTS 2.0 is a dream ,too far to get it,as well as stan's summer announcement.
People will not believe the dev team second time,unless they have some real thing deliver,not just some empty world
Stan kept telling everyone good thing is coming,but nothing is coming.
BTS 2.0 is a dream ,too far to get it,as well as stan's summer announcement.
People will not believe the dev team second time,unless they have some real thing deliver,not just some empty world
Because you think that DOOM is coming and you want to shove it in my face if I am wrong? :P
Because you think that DOOM is coming and you want to shove it in my face if I am wrong? :P
I'm going to remove your quote and just gloat about how wrong you were now. After some thought, it would be really shitty of me to gloat about it after it happens. ;)
Indeed. DOOM would be quite unfortunate. VERY unfortunate.
http://www.nickbostrom.com/astronomical/waste.html
"Advancing technology (or its enabling factors, such as economic productivity) even by such a tiny amount that it leads to colonization of the local supercluster just one second earlier than would otherwise have happened amounts to bringing about more than 10^29 human lives"
As I would have to expect that DOOM would significantly delay our ability to become a technological civilization expanding throughout the virgo supercluster and making use of the negative entropy available therein prior to the heat-death of the universe, I would have to estimate that DOOM would have an incalculable utility cost.
We can only hope that Bitshares ends up being responsible for some amount of speedup toward those goals, if it speeds along our civilization's progress by even a small amount, trillions of trillions or trillions of lifetimes of additional humans may be able to experience positive utility lives before the universe is torn apart by dark energy and entropy rules the day.
;)