Why force such discussions at the beginning? You can't even begin to do it until you know what she is doing and what she wants to be paid. So I don't think it should be spelled out at this point.
Once she actually does stuff and wants to be paid then we start having that discussion. I'm completely at a loss why people approach things in this manner. It doesn't seem productive. At all.
I don't remember having these kinds of preemptively-critical discussions about Toast, MethodX, Cass or any of our most valuable forum members.
Each one of them pitched in and had developed a valued reputation long before deciding to run for delegate. This is the standard mechanism we advise for most high potential new talent - prove your worth, get some support from another trusted delegate, then run for full-time office. Perhaps some people with established reputations can take a shorter path, but I don't think it's necessary to preemptively interrogate everybody entering the pipeline unless and until they become a candidate.
So why are we picking on this particular person who may or may not be embarking on a similar trajectory?
How do we expect to attract top talent if you guys hit them with a cold water hose right out of the gate?
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
Toast,Cass and MethodX all provided tons of github,graphic work or demonstrated a great understanding of marketing. It (at least for me) was very easy to see the value of any of these players very quickly. I not only encourage but applaud anyone who does anything big or small as a
volunteer.I do feel that volunteer's VS paid delegates should be held to different standards and that it is important to know who is what so that we as a community can accurately judge the work said person is or isn't doing. With MethodX having a delegate(which I supported and he is doing a great job) I felt it was important for it to be known if delegate funds were being used for this idea. It lets all of us as shareholders vote on delegates that provide value to the system, whether through development of code, graphical design, or and other skill deemed useful.
I never assume anything is free unless its clearly stated and maybe that's the cornerstone of the issue here.
A simple reply of she is volunteering for now to show her skill set would have be a great simple answer.Since it has been answered I am all for her giving it a go. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
This thread is starting to embarrass me.
Its funny how 2 people can look at the same thing completely differently, This thread is a shinning example of how chivalry is not dead