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Delegates should have monitoring tools to self-diagnose network and node issues. I agree getting pinged by a fellow delegate is a nice thing if the monitoring tools fail, but it doesn't seem to be adequate for production-level financial systems IMHO.
I dont share your opinion. Forum software is not mobile-friendly. It is full of non-essential stuff.I would use another means of communication if I had the choice.
Quote from: emski on December 12, 2014, 08:04:19 pm@gamey The initial intent of this is real time chat.Ahh I got this thread confused with another? My bad.I will stick by my point though. You need email for initial alert, then use forums. Typing 1 line messages and not having to hit the refresh button are not features that are > ubiquity of a basic forum. You type your new info in and hit save. When someone wants to read more data, they click refresh.It is barely any less real time than an IM, except it requires people to hit refresh. I mean, if you want a private group then instant messaging seems useful. If you want it to aid in troubleshooting I don't see how IM systems help much.
@gamey The initial intent of this is real time chat.
About the mail as an option:This forum is better than a mailing list.What I suggested is a real-time communication.More like a permanent channel where all delegates will hang out and whenever an important issue arises it will be quickly communicated.
Quote from: Xeldal on November 27, 2014, 08:31:04 pmQuote from: emski on November 27, 2014, 08:28:33 amAbout mumble as an option:Mumble is great for real-time conversations but is too engaging for the idea I have in mind. Mumble sessions with delegates is a good thing but isn't on the topic at all.It requires additional software/servers and more attention from all the participants.I don't understand your objection, perhaps because I don't know your final objectives. Why you say its not on topic.There is already a mumble server, you don't need another one. Many of us already have the software. Nearly all the options require some software, right?if we were to use mumble, it wouldn't be like the 'sessions' we have with BM . I think there would just be a private room that only delegates have access to. You can create your own private room and only people you invite could join the conversation.I don't want to give the impression that I'm pushing for mumble, I'm not, just trying to understand your objection. I think what mumble lacks is video, as well as a simple account messaging system. I can't send a message to someone if they are not connected. I can't request a 'hangout' within the system if people aren't connect. etc. so it seems it may not be ideal.Mumble requires full attention of the attendants. If you are not listening the entire time you will miss the point. Mumble is great for scheduled (short) sessions. However even if you record the session getting all essential information quickly isn't an easy option. I think mumble is a good thing and should be used but not in the scenario I have in mind.Here is a possible scenario :DDoS attack against some nodes or transaction flood attack. One of the exchanges changes its API so most of the price feeds fail to update (that actually happens). Basically anything that impairs BTS performance.The Real Time Chat should allow for instant notification and initial troubleshooting of the issue. And all conversations should be logged so that delegates that come in later can understand quickly what is going on. Mumble is not suitable for that. Mail is only a little better than the forum. Such solution should have IM capabilities and a mobile client and of course chat log.
Quote from: emski on November 27, 2014, 08:28:33 amAbout mumble as an option:Mumble is great for real-time conversations but is too engaging for the idea I have in mind. Mumble sessions with delegates is a good thing but isn't on the topic at all.It requires additional software/servers and more attention from all the participants.I don't understand your objection, perhaps because I don't know your final objectives. Why you say its not on topic.There is already a mumble server, you don't need another one. Many of us already have the software. Nearly all the options require some software, right?if we were to use mumble, it wouldn't be like the 'sessions' we have with BM . I think there would just be a private room that only delegates have access to. You can create your own private room and only people you invite could join the conversation.I don't want to give the impression that I'm pushing for mumble, I'm not, just trying to understand your objection. I think what mumble lacks is video, as well as a simple account messaging system. I can't send a message to someone if they are not connected. I can't request a 'hangout' within the system if people aren't connect. etc. so it seems it may not be ideal.
About mumble as an option:Mumble is great for real-time conversations but is too engaging for the idea I have in mind. Mumble sessions with delegates is a good thing but isn't on the topic at all.It requires additional software/servers and more attention from all the participants.
Quote from: cass on November 27, 2014, 01:55:57 amYou have to increase votes! I added Tox and XMPP and increase max. votes to 3!Thanks! I cannot increase the votes count after I've created the poll. Could an admin do something about this ?
You have to increase votes! I added Tox and XMPP and increase max. votes to 3!
Quote from: xeroc on November 26, 2014, 07:56:53 pmcan we have a "multi-select" poll?!//edit: can you also add "tox" and "XMPP" pls?!The list is kind of a mix of software and protocols XMPP is a protocol, and a protocol is really more what I think we're trying to agree on.?Having Jitsi and XMPP is kind of redundant. kind of. (Jitsi is more than just XMPP)If we agreed on XMPP we wouldn't need to agree on software. Use whatever you want.Here's a big list of clients that use XMPP : http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/I think mumble is probably the easiest solution as we already use it, but lacks some convenience features found in other packages, that may or may not be necessary.
can we have a "multi-select" poll?!//edit: can you also add "tox" and "XMPP" pls?!
What's wrong with Mumble?
I'm open for whatever you folks decide. What about slack?
messages are stored in:+mail+xmpp+bitmessage (~3 days storage afaik)+toxreal time:+irc+tox+ircNot sure what fits best ..What I don't like with skype is that it is closed-source, managed by MS and has NSA backdoors (wild guess)
Quote from: emski on November 26, 2014, 07:31:06 amQuote from: pollux on November 26, 2014, 06:58:58 am#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?I see only 1 person there. Skype can deliver messages even if you are currently offline.Freenode has a service called "MemoServ" .. but you are right .. maybe a skype group would also make sense .. although I do not like skype much .. to be honest
Quote from: pollux on November 26, 2014, 06:58:58 am#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?I see only 1 person there. Skype can deliver messages even if you are currently offline.
#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?