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Keep it here unless/until the two merge their features somehow. EDIT: I have gained enough experience now with STEEM to know that it works very well. While I opposed moving the forum there before, I now would support such a move, if that is what the community decides. It would provide more synergy and reward the people who are still active on this forum.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 11, 2016, 08:24:38 amQuote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 07:43:04 amQuote from: Ben Mason on May 11, 2016, 07:12:57 amQuote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 12:46:23 amQuote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSteem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.It is very much true that shady people who have one consistent trait of not following through with what they say they're going to do would prefer a site where they and their cohorts can bury any messages pointing this out.Edit - It shows a lack of integrity to not speak of one's truth beliefs.All he's done is work tirelessly, tirelessly for BitShares. He has tried to remain a source of optimism, enthuse and inspire the community consistently for years. He is not responsible for project failures and changes of necessity along the way. You would be hard pressed to find anyone with more integrity than Stan. It saddens me that more people who should know better do not realise that.If you don't like Steem, don't go there but please realise.....for your sake.....that Steemit is BitShares. It took me a while to figure out too ) Steemit is one of the many ways we can increase the chance of BitShares decentralised market features reaching a wider audience and continue its development. Supporting Steemit is supporting BitShares. Consider that this may be a significant step to moving beyond an aggressive, often misrepresentative crypto only crowd. Blockchain tech desperately needs new minds.I do have to ask, how do you think Steemit advances blockchain tech ? Give us a rundown on this?IMO basically one could rewrite STEEMIT using a centralized database, but there would be no suckers to buy the tokens because they're not "crypto". THATS IT.Am I missing something ?This "all he is done" is bullshit. I had your attitude ~ 2 years ago and argued with a guy named Adam B Levine. He had quite a bit of history before me. While I do think he was carried away with hyperbole, (Suggesting Larimers owned 40%+ of BTS etc) I do think he had legitimate reasons for most everything he said. When these situations repeat themselves, perhaps you should step away and wonder what is really going on and learn from history.Thats all I will say on this matter, out of respect to collateral damage to various hard working honest supporters. I feel like a dick both ways. Be honest and hurt people, say nothing and let people learn their lesson. "Voluntary shunning" is not that great if you let the next guy get screwed.Steemit has the potential to enhance the conversation, to bring new ideas, new capital in. All of which increase the chance of further development. You say my attitude is 'bullshit.' You are of course entitled to you're opinion. I believe in honesty, even if it hurts. But I don't believe in casual references to complex history, fraught with competing ideas, agendas and a multitude of challenges that then lead to an over-simplistic judgement against a man's integrity. Especially one that has deeply enhanced the community with his intellect, humour and optimism. With friends like these......!I have no doubt that from your perspective, you feel Stan has over promised and under delivered. Fair enough, but that is certainly not a question of integrity from my perspective.I never said your attitude was bullshit. (?) I said "Just stop the anti-dilution bullshit ... " This was a reference in what needs to happen to get BTS going forward without any active devs. Or just hope they do what they say. I get it. You're a nice guy. No doubt Bytemaster has put in a lot of hard work. There is no doubt BitShares wouldn't exist if not for him. I used to stand up for him too. These roles were reversed ~2 years ago when I was you fighting off what I felt was FUD. It would have been real easy to continue with the social consensus. Do you remember that? It is what pulled in a lot of us, including myself. But no, it is another weird premine from Dan. Now they'd like the few active posters to go over to steemit. Well duh, but should we? You may want to go and I wish you the best experience possible on their site. Just not my thing and I don't want to see users poached for a project that shows no benefit to BTS outside of our wishful thinking.
Quote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 07:43:04 amQuote from: Ben Mason on May 11, 2016, 07:12:57 amQuote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 12:46:23 amQuote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSteem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.It is very much true that shady people who have one consistent trait of not following through with what they say they're going to do would prefer a site where they and their cohorts can bury any messages pointing this out.Edit - It shows a lack of integrity to not speak of one's truth beliefs.All he's done is work tirelessly, tirelessly for BitShares. He has tried to remain a source of optimism, enthuse and inspire the community consistently for years. He is not responsible for project failures and changes of necessity along the way. You would be hard pressed to find anyone with more integrity than Stan. It saddens me that more people who should know better do not realise that.If you don't like Steem, don't go there but please realise.....for your sake.....that Steemit is BitShares. It took me a while to figure out too ) Steemit is one of the many ways we can increase the chance of BitShares decentralised market features reaching a wider audience and continue its development. Supporting Steemit is supporting BitShares. Consider that this may be a significant step to moving beyond an aggressive, often misrepresentative crypto only crowd. Blockchain tech desperately needs new minds.I do have to ask, how do you think Steemit advances blockchain tech ? Give us a rundown on this?IMO basically one could rewrite STEEMIT using a centralized database, but there would be no suckers to buy the tokens because they're not "crypto". THATS IT.Am I missing something ?This "all he is done" is bullshit. I had your attitude ~ 2 years ago and argued with a guy named Adam B Levine. He had quite a bit of history before me. While I do think he was carried away with hyperbole, (Suggesting Larimers owned 40%+ of BTS etc) I do think he had legitimate reasons for most everything he said. When these situations repeat themselves, perhaps you should step away and wonder what is really going on and learn from history.Thats all I will say on this matter, out of respect to collateral damage to various hard working honest supporters. I feel like a dick both ways. Be honest and hurt people, say nothing and let people learn their lesson. "Voluntary shunning" is not that great if you let the next guy get screwed.Steemit has the potential to enhance the conversation, to bring new ideas, new capital in. All of which increase the chance of further development. You say my attitude is 'bullshit.' You are of course entitled to you're opinion. I believe in honesty, even if it hurts. But I don't believe in casual references to complex history, fraught with competing ideas, agendas and a multitude of challenges that then lead to an over-simplistic judgement against a man's integrity. Especially one that has deeply enhanced the community with his intellect, humour and optimism. With friends like these......!I have no doubt that from your perspective, you feel Stan has over promised and under delivered. Fair enough, but that is certainly not a question of integrity from my perspective.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 11, 2016, 07:12:57 amQuote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 12:46:23 amQuote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSteem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.It is very much true that shady people who have one consistent trait of not following through with what they say they're going to do would prefer a site where they and their cohorts can bury any messages pointing this out.Edit - It shows a lack of integrity to not speak of one's truth beliefs.All he's done is work tirelessly, tirelessly for BitShares. He has tried to remain a source of optimism, enthuse and inspire the community consistently for years. He is not responsible for project failures and changes of necessity along the way. You would be hard pressed to find anyone with more integrity than Stan. It saddens me that more people who should know better do not realise that.If you don't like Steem, don't go there but please realise.....for your sake.....that Steemit is BitShares. It took me a while to figure out too ) Steemit is one of the many ways we can increase the chance of BitShares decentralised market features reaching a wider audience and continue its development. Supporting Steemit is supporting BitShares. Consider that this may be a significant step to moving beyond an aggressive, often misrepresentative crypto only crowd. Blockchain tech desperately needs new minds.I do have to ask, how do you think Steemit advances blockchain tech ? Give us a rundown on this?IMO basically one could rewrite STEEMIT using a centralized database, but there would be no suckers to buy the tokens because they're not "crypto". THATS IT.Am I missing something ?This "all he is done" is bullshit. I had your attitude ~ 2 years ago and argued with a guy named Adam B Levine. He had quite a bit of history before me. While I do think he was carried away with hyperbole, (Suggesting Larimers owned 40%+ of BTS etc) I do think he had legitimate reasons for most everything he said. When these situations repeat themselves, perhaps you should step away and wonder what is really going on and learn from history.Thats all I will say on this matter, out of respect to collateral damage to various hard working honest supporters. I feel like a dick both ways. Be honest and hurt people, say nothing and let people learn their lesson. "Voluntary shunning" is not that great if you let the next guy get screwed.
Quote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 12:46:23 amQuote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSteem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.It is very much true that shady people who have one consistent trait of not following through with what they say they're going to do would prefer a site where they and their cohorts can bury any messages pointing this out.Edit - It shows a lack of integrity to not speak of one's truth beliefs.All he's done is work tirelessly, tirelessly for BitShares. He has tried to remain a source of optimism, enthuse and inspire the community consistently for years. He is not responsible for project failures and changes of necessity along the way. You would be hard pressed to find anyone with more integrity than Stan. It saddens me that more people who should know better do not realise that.If you don't like Steem, don't go there but please realise.....for your sake.....that Steemit is BitShares. It took me a while to figure out too ) Steemit is one of the many ways we can increase the chance of BitShares decentralised market features reaching a wider audience and continue its development. Supporting Steemit is supporting BitShares. Consider that this may be a significant step to moving beyond an aggressive, often misrepresentative crypto only crowd. Blockchain tech desperately needs new minds.
Quote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSteem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.It is very much true that shady people who have one consistent trait of not following through with what they say they're going to do would prefer a site where they and their cohorts can bury any messages pointing this out.Edit - It shows a lack of integrity to not speak of one's truth beliefs.
Steem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.
I haven't dig further into the algo . But with what control can you upvote a post ? Stake ? Then what if people with criticisms buys a lot of stake and then upvote a criticisms post ?
Quote from: btswildpig on May 11, 2016, 02:51:52 amQuote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 12:46:23 amQuote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSteem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.It is very much true that shady people who have one consistent trait of not following through with what they say they're going to do would prefer a site where they and their cohorts can bury any messages pointing this out.Edit - It shows a lack of integrity to not speak of one's truth beliefs.hmm . I thought STEEM is a blockchain . I don't think burying information is possible .Even with so-called up-vote and down-vote system , I can still build a site where the sorting algo will be different from STEEMIT right ?Just like a Blockchain explorer can choose whether their Block info displays from top to bottom or bottom to top .Sure. You're right, but is anyone going to do this? Does it make any sense? Can you discern algorithmically why things have been voted down? The information will be on the blockchain regardless. The difference is what level is it presented to users.You can extract posts off the blockchain, but you could just as well use pastebin from the start and pass around the URL etc.Upvoting/downvoting is great to get out the crap posts. Not so great for legitimate criticisms.
Quote from: gamey on May 11, 2016, 12:46:23 amQuote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSteem's unlimited range of topics appeals to an infinitely wider audience than BitSharesTalk and thus has the benefit of bringing new eyeballs to anything about BitShares posted there.This includes new DEX users who have picked up a head of Steem and now want to know what other cool things you can do with it.Kind of like Plutonium.It's fortunate that those with intractably bitter attitudes want to stay here on BitSharesTalk where no one will see their posts and only positive, optimistic people want to move their constructive, forward thinking opinions into the bright, puffy cloud of Steem where snide comments quickly sink into oblivion. So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a group decision. It will sort itself out.It is very much true that shady people who have one consistent trait of not following through with what they say they're going to do would prefer a site where they and their cohorts can bury any messages pointing this out.Edit - It shows a lack of integrity to not speak of one's truth beliefs.hmm . I thought STEEM is a blockchain . I don't think burying information is possible .Even with so-called up-vote and down-vote system , I can still build a site where the sorting algo will be different from STEEMIT right ?Just like a Blockchain explorer can choose whether their Block info displays from top to bottom or bottom to top .
What would we do without the Knights who say "Nay!" ?Behind every successful entrepreneur is the heaping pile of naysayers she chose to ignore.
Quote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 02:49:55 pmBehind every successful entrepreneur is the heaping pile of naysayers she chose to ignore.I don't believe this quote holds the same truth when it's a community entrepreneur. Consensus and majority are important safeguards.With regards to Steem, if it is indeed a better place for BTS discussions, then surely it will attract a better following.The fair play here is to have both exist, and let users gravitate towards to more functional, more popular version. People inherently will want to follow both. The winning platform will be self evident in the next 6 months..The last thing that should be done is to forceably funnel people where you want them.Also, the historical posts here are vastly important. Are all of them going to be re-imported into steem?
Behind every successful entrepreneur is the heaping pile of naysayers she chose to ignore.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 10, 2016, 02:42:05 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on May 10, 2016, 02:21:07 pmQuote from: Ben Mason on May 10, 2016, 06:05:01 amSteemit rewards contribution....of course bitsharestalk should move.Unfortunately the time value of good contributors forum posts is far in excess of what it would ever make sense to financially reward. So it's not much of a USP. You could have already observed this via Brownies for participation. While it initially attracts some interest it rapidly plateaus and doesn't add value or network effect to the underlying unit/platform/forum or incentivize good contributors. This is because there are plethora of factors that attract users to engage/identify/contribute content. Imo due to launch/distribution and other factors such as the 'social + media' being really a core/fundamental weakness of the founders it's a poor, to put it mildly, foundation for this. What it does have going for it, is that talented developers like BM and others are probably going to be based there in the near term so your ideas have a greater chance of manifesting/contributing to developments which could positively affect your investment. (As I think it's a poor investment, I don't see the value in that personally, but others might.) Quote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSo it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a decision. It will sort itself out. With great respect, I really don't know how you can be so definitive about the prospects of value continuing to be available to contributors on the Steemit network. Surely the relationship between contribution and reward (let's not forget, rewards do not only come in the form of Steem) will be the result of complex growth/innovation dynamics. Nobody is guaranteeing anything. But we can work hard and hope can't we? No-one has cracked mass adoption.....social media is a great start. The naysayers evaluation is as valid as the next person's but the future is unknown to everyone. I find solace in the technology, the effort and those many that share a solidarity of effort and optimism. you make a lot of good points including the fact that social media is potentially a great route to mass adoption. Regards my personal evaluation, yeah it's pretty definitive, but it's a very fast moving industry so things can change. While the future is largely unknown, we do know >92% of tech start-ups fail within a couple of years, so as positive as anyone may be about any new venture, it's unnecessary to tie the fate of BTS via moving/merging to it at this nascent stage imo. I agree with Stan that it if it's superior, it doesn't need a formal decision/move and that it will occur naturally.
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on May 10, 2016, 02:21:07 pmQuote from: Ben Mason on May 10, 2016, 06:05:01 amSteemit rewards contribution....of course bitsharestalk should move.Unfortunately the time value of good contributors forum posts is far in excess of what it would ever make sense to financially reward. So it's not much of a USP. You could have already observed this via Brownies for participation. While it initially attracts some interest it rapidly plateaus and doesn't add value or network effect to the underlying unit/platform/forum or incentivize good contributors. This is because there are plethora of factors that attract users to engage/identify/contribute content. Imo due to launch/distribution and other factors such as the 'social + media' being really a core/fundamental weakness of the founders it's a poor, to put it mildly, foundation for this. What it does have going for it, is that talented developers like BM and others are probably going to be based there in the near term so your ideas have a greater chance of manifesting/contributing to developments which could positively affect your investment. (As I think it's a poor investment, I don't see the value in that personally, but others might.) Quote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSo it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a decision. It will sort itself out. With great respect, I really don't know how you can be so definitive about the prospects of value continuing to be available to contributors on the Steemit network. Surely the relationship between contribution and reward (let's not forget, rewards do not only come in the form of Steem) will be the result of complex growth/innovation dynamics. Nobody is guaranteeing anything. But we can work hard and hope can't we? No-one has cracked mass adoption.....social media is a great start. The naysayers evaluation is as valid as the next person's but the future is unknown to everyone. I find solace in the technology, the effort and those many that share a solidarity of effort and optimism.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 10, 2016, 06:05:01 amSteemit rewards contribution....of course bitsharestalk should move.Unfortunately the time value of good contributors forum posts is far in excess of what it would ever make sense to financially reward. So it's not much of a USP. You could have already observed this via Brownies for participation. While it initially attracts some interest it rapidly plateaus and doesn't add value or network effect to the underlying unit/platform/forum or incentivize good contributors. This is because there are plethora of factors that attract users to engage/identify/contribute content. Imo due to launch/distribution and other factors such as the 'social + media' being really a core/fundamental weakness of the founders it's a poor, to put it mildly, foundation for this. What it does have going for it, is that talented developers like BM and others are probably going to be based there in the near term so your ideas have a greater chance of manifesting/contributing to developments which could positively affect your investment. (As I think it's a poor investment, I don't see the value in that personally, but others might.) Quote from: Stan on May 10, 2016, 01:38:06 pmSo it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a decision. It will sort itself out.
Steemit rewards contribution....of course bitsharestalk should move.
So it's a really beautiful, self-reinforcing Darwinian selection process. No need to formally make such a decision. It will sort itself out.
well , you're making an assumption that the premined STEEM could feed them forever and they will work on STEEM forever .....clearly it won't be the case looking back at history .
Why not use both rather than forcing the premined STEEM down our throats?
Quote from: dannotestein on May 09, 2016, 05:41:31 pmQuote from: Thom on May 09, 2016, 04:24:16 pmWow, those stats are indeed rather dismal and the trend is clear as day.The stats look far worse than the truth in this case, because May stats are for a partial month. Re-evaluating with that correction, data doesn't look nearly as bad.Multiple all May stats by 4 to estimate the whole month...still not good.
Quote from: Thom on May 09, 2016, 04:24:16 pmWow, those stats are indeed rather dismal and the trend is clear as day.The stats look far worse than the truth in this case, because May stats are for a partial month. Re-evaluating with that correction, data doesn't look nearly as bad.
Wow, those stats are indeed rather dismal and the trend is clear as day.
Unfortunately for BitShares Talk the stats show it is dwindling down https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=stats pretty quickly. Month over month there are less new posts, less page views, less new members, less new topics. Blame the marketcap, development standstill, getting Steem-rolled, more exciting crypto projects, lack of things to talk about, the merger, the unfulfilled plans, referral bonus being drastically reduced, or whatever, the fact is that there is just a handful of people who post here now - as soon as they realize that fact they will most likely consider moving on as well.
Quote from: luckybit on May 08, 2016, 10:50:39 pmQuote from: onceuponatime on May 08, 2016, 10:27:06 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 10:06:19 pmQuote from: onceuponatime on May 08, 2016, 09:46:29 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 09:15:11 pmBitShares is a great platform with a great community that is only 5 months away from ending a hugely expensive merger. Trying to be polite and not criticize it too much, but at this nascent stage I would say Steem probably shouldn't even have a third party project place on this forum. Good luck to those taking part but please give it a few months as you risk dragging down a great project like BTS unnecessarily if that project ends up failing. (9/10 new businesses do) I hope this gets moved to random discussion as we don't need a Steem/BTS discussion at this stage and/or give a non share-dropped platform unnecessary exposure.Haven't you repeatedly said that you sold off all of your non-vesting stake in BitShares long ago? I have come to suspect the motivation behind your comments.Yes correct, nearly all of my BTS is vesting. ( Though I'm actually in favour of ending the merger early and losing that BTS because I believe it would be in the best interests of BTS.) I've also said once we get to the end of this awful merger I believe BTS could go from strength and to strength & will probably be accumulating a much larger position closer to that stage. However I wish you guys with interest in other projects luck, but I'm personally not a fan of having them promoted in the general BTS discussion area. BTS and this forum has been built up over a few years, it's a great asset as is the platform. Perhaps if Steem gains some traction over the next 6-12 months some synergistic relationships may be warranted. However atm it's the equivalent of suggesting moving Bitcointalk.org over to Banx/XRP/ (Some other fairly centralized/new/small possibly competing blockchain forum.)The anti-delutionist faction made further development of BitShares virtually impossible. Steem has opened up once more a way to get funding to BitShares developers to work on this project (ask Fuzzy, ask kenCode, ask roadscape). In fact, if you take an open minded look, I think you would find that the synergies are quite remarkable.Additionally, bitsharestalk.org is not owned by the community but by Bitsaphire who have not appeared to be actively involved in BitShares for a very long time. The founders and many of the participants of Steem are passionate about BitShares.Prove it. Either integrate Steemit into Bitshares or it's just another competitor.Are you offering to pay for integration? I didn't think so.
Quote from: onceuponatime on May 08, 2016, 10:27:06 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 10:06:19 pmQuote from: onceuponatime on May 08, 2016, 09:46:29 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 09:15:11 pmBitShares is a great platform with a great community that is only 5 months away from ending a hugely expensive merger. Trying to be polite and not criticize it too much, but at this nascent stage I would say Steem probably shouldn't even have a third party project place on this forum. Good luck to those taking part but please give it a few months as you risk dragging down a great project like BTS unnecessarily if that project ends up failing. (9/10 new businesses do) I hope this gets moved to random discussion as we don't need a Steem/BTS discussion at this stage and/or give a non share-dropped platform unnecessary exposure.Haven't you repeatedly said that you sold off all of your non-vesting stake in BitShares long ago? I have come to suspect the motivation behind your comments.Yes correct, nearly all of my BTS is vesting. ( Though I'm actually in favour of ending the merger early and losing that BTS because I believe it would be in the best interests of BTS.) I've also said once we get to the end of this awful merger I believe BTS could go from strength and to strength & will probably be accumulating a much larger position closer to that stage. However I wish you guys with interest in other projects luck, but I'm personally not a fan of having them promoted in the general BTS discussion area. BTS and this forum has been built up over a few years, it's a great asset as is the platform. Perhaps if Steem gains some traction over the next 6-12 months some synergistic relationships may be warranted. However atm it's the equivalent of suggesting moving Bitcointalk.org over to Banx/XRP/ (Some other fairly centralized/new/small possibly competing blockchain forum.)The anti-delutionist faction made further development of BitShares virtually impossible. Steem has opened up once more a way to get funding to BitShares developers to work on this project (ask Fuzzy, ask kenCode, ask roadscape). In fact, if you take an open minded look, I think you would find that the synergies are quite remarkable.Additionally, bitsharestalk.org is not owned by the community but by Bitsaphire who have not appeared to be actively involved in BitShares for a very long time. The founders and many of the participants of Steem are passionate about BitShares.Prove it. Either integrate Steemit into Bitshares or it's just another competitor.
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 10:06:19 pmQuote from: onceuponatime on May 08, 2016, 09:46:29 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 09:15:11 pmBitShares is a great platform with a great community that is only 5 months away from ending a hugely expensive merger. Trying to be polite and not criticize it too much, but at this nascent stage I would say Steem probably shouldn't even have a third party project place on this forum. Good luck to those taking part but please give it a few months as you risk dragging down a great project like BTS unnecessarily if that project ends up failing. (9/10 new businesses do) I hope this gets moved to random discussion as we don't need a Steem/BTS discussion at this stage and/or give a non share-dropped platform unnecessary exposure.Haven't you repeatedly said that you sold off all of your non-vesting stake in BitShares long ago? I have come to suspect the motivation behind your comments.Yes correct, nearly all of my BTS is vesting. ( Though I'm actually in favour of ending the merger early and losing that BTS because I believe it would be in the best interests of BTS.) I've also said once we get to the end of this awful merger I believe BTS could go from strength and to strength & will probably be accumulating a much larger position closer to that stage. However I wish you guys with interest in other projects luck, but I'm personally not a fan of having them promoted in the general BTS discussion area. BTS and this forum has been built up over a few years, it's a great asset as is the platform. Perhaps if Steem gains some traction over the next 6-12 months some synergistic relationships may be warranted. However atm it's the equivalent of suggesting moving Bitcointalk.org over to Banx/XRP/ (Some other fairly centralized/new/small possibly competing blockchain forum.)The anti-delutionist faction made further development of BitShares virtually impossible. Steem has opened up once more a way to get funding to BitShares developers to work on this project (ask Fuzzy, ask kenCode, ask roadscape). In fact, if you take an open minded look, I think you would find that the synergies are quite remarkable.Additionally, bitsharestalk.org is not owned by the community but by Bitsaphire who have not appeared to be actively involved in BitShares for a very long time. The founders and many of the participants of Steem are passionate about BitShares.
Quote from: onceuponatime on May 08, 2016, 09:46:29 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 09:15:11 pmBitShares is a great platform with a great community that is only 5 months away from ending a hugely expensive merger. Trying to be polite and not criticize it too much, but at this nascent stage I would say Steem probably shouldn't even have a third party project place on this forum. Good luck to those taking part but please give it a few months as you risk dragging down a great project like BTS unnecessarily if that project ends up failing. (9/10 new businesses do) I hope this gets moved to random discussion as we don't need a Steem/BTS discussion at this stage and/or give a non share-dropped platform unnecessary exposure.Haven't you repeatedly said that you sold off all of your non-vesting stake in BitShares long ago? I have come to suspect the motivation behind your comments.Yes correct, nearly all of my BTS is vesting. ( Though I'm actually in favour of ending the merger early and losing that BTS because I believe it would be in the best interests of BTS.) I've also said once we get to the end of this awful merger I believe BTS could go from strength and to strength & will probably be accumulating a much larger position closer to that stage. However I wish you guys with interest in other projects luck, but I'm personally not a fan of having them promoted in the general BTS discussion area. BTS and this forum has been built up over a few years, it's a great asset as is the platform. Perhaps if Steem gains some traction over the next 6-12 months some synergistic relationships may be warranted. However atm it's the equivalent of suggesting moving Bitcointalk.org over to Banx/XRP/ (Some other fairly centralized/new/small possibly competing blockchain forum.)
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on May 08, 2016, 09:15:11 pmBitShares is a great platform with a great community that is only 5 months away from ending a hugely expensive merger. Trying to be polite and not criticize it too much, but at this nascent stage I would say Steem probably shouldn't even have a third party project place on this forum. Good luck to those taking part but please give it a few months as you risk dragging down a great project like BTS unnecessarily if that project ends up failing. (9/10 new businesses do) I hope this gets moved to random discussion as we don't need a Steem/BTS discussion at this stage and/or give a non share-dropped platform unnecessary exposure.Haven't you repeatedly said that you sold off all of your non-vesting stake in BitShares long ago? I have come to suspect the motivation behind your comments.
BitShares is a great platform with a great community that is only 5 months away from ending a hugely expensive merger. Trying to be polite and not criticize it too much, but at this nascent stage I would say Steem probably shouldn't even have a third party project place on this forum. Good luck to those taking part but please give it a few months as you risk dragging down a great project like BTS unnecessarily if that project ends up failing. (9/10 new businesses do) I hope this gets moved to random discussion as we don't need a Steem/BTS discussion at this stage and/or give a non share-dropped platform unnecessary exposure.
Yes correct, nearly all of my BTS is vesting. ( Though I'm actually in favour of ending the merger early and losing that BTS because I believe it would be in the best interests of BTS.) I've also said once we get to the end of this awful merger I believe BTS could go from strength and to strength & will probably be accumulating a much larger position closer to that stage. However I wish you guys with interest in other projects luck, but I'm personally not a fan of having them promoted in the general BTS discussion area. BTS and this forum has been built up over a few years, it's a great asset as is the platform. Perhaps if Steem gains some traction over the next 6-12 months some synergistic relationships may be warranted. However atm it's the equivalent of suggesting moving Bitcointalk.org over to Banx/XRP/ (Some other fairly centralized/new/small possibly competing blockchain forum.)
Bad idea. A better idea would be to build Steemit into OpenLedger so instead of the Trollbox we can also have the forums within the exchange itself. It makes no sense to not promote the exchange. Why communicate here or try to bring Bitshares over to Steemit?
Quote from: ebit on May 09, 2016, 12:26:54 amWht not move Steemit to Bitsharestalk ?You could mirror the steem blockchain at bitsharestalk.org. That would be a fine idea.
Wht not move Steemit to Bitsharestalk ?
Prove it. Either integrate Steemit into Bitshares or it's just another competitor.