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Quote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 05:23:14 amGiven that due to TITAN I lost over 50K BTSX. I'd say yes. (It may be recovered at some point... who knows)I also think TITAN adds a ton of extra risk. 3 letter agencies absolutely hate privacy. It should've been added after it's used by big businesses.Note... I found his 50K. It is not lost due to TITAN.
Given that due to TITAN I lost over 50K BTSX. I'd say yes. (It may be recovered at some point... who knows)I also think TITAN adds a ton of extra risk. 3 letter agencies absolutely hate privacy. It should've been added after it's used by big businesses.
TITAN provides nothing that cannot be done with Bitcoin, it simply automates it and makes it easier to keep your backups up to date. If you backup immediately after creating your wallet, you will never lose any funds with TITAN. You may lose transaction history details like who you sent your funds to and what the memo was, but you will not lose funds.
Can the development team contact me and tell me.How long does it take, what are the particulars of the development? I am here if the team needs me.
Quote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 04:12:19 pmWell I have 50K BTSX missing in a margin call, send to UNKNOWN. Unless I misunderstood how it works. I put 75K BTSX as margin, and my understanding was that only 33% of that is really exposed, unless liquidity totally sucked.Margin calls are not TITAN so it seems like you would be blaming the wrong thing here. Can you post the output of wallet_account_transaction_history (or PM it to me)?
Well I have 50K BTSX missing in a margin call, send to UNKNOWN. Unless I misunderstood how it works. I put 75K BTSX as margin, and my understanding was that only 33% of that is really exposed, unless liquidity totally sucked.
Quote from: TheOnion on September 01, 2014, 04:49:27 amMy answer is unequivocally YES.I know BM's No. But what is yours?If I have 100000 BTC.I send 0.01 BTC to some guy around my street to buy several pizza.He can see my 100000 BTC in the blockchain,know that I'm rich.And some day, he lost he job,have a sick kid, sick wife,mouths to feed .He can easily kidnap me and ask for my 100000 BTC.So,do you understand why we need TITAN ?
My answer is unequivocally YES.I know BM's No. But what is yours?
Quote from: bytemaster on September 01, 2014, 03:09:07 pmTITAN provides nothing that cannot be done with Bitcoin, it simply automates it and makes it easier to keep your backups up to date. If you backup immediately after creating your wallet, you will never lose any funds with TITAN. You may lose transaction history details like who you sent your funds to and what the memo was, but you will not lose funds.Well I have 50K BTSX missing in a margin call, send to UNKNOWN. Unless I misunderstood how it works. I put 75K BTSX as margin, and my understanding was that only 33% of that is really exposed, unless liquidity totally sucked.
Quote from: GaltReport on September 01, 2014, 02:16:19 pmQuote from: luckybit on September 01, 2014, 05:34:08 amQuote from: TheOnion on September 01, 2014, 05:28:36 amQuote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 05:23:14 amGiven that due to TITAN I lost over 50K BTSX. I'd say yes. (It may be recovered at some point... who knows)I also think TITAN adds a ton of extra risk. 3 letter agencies absolutely hate privacy. It should've been added after it's used by big businesses.You have not lost them... I have 40 to 75K BTSX floating around the blockchain myself, my point is difference thou - BM is spending unnecessary time fixing a 'problem' he had no reason (no benefit) in creating in the first place.Assume 3 letter agencies already track you. You think they this forum?This is correct. i spent years managing 24x7 chat/video streaming channel and spent lots of time dealing with people that were clearly intelligence gathers and provocateurs in addition to the run of the mill trolls and crazies. Assume monitoring and trust...yourself. So wait...is it safe to say that these types of people might be, here? In crypto-land? Do you think any of them might want to use it as a tool of control? Would the NSA have a reason to attempt to coop this tech? and more importantly...would they?I'm sure we are safe...and shouldn't ever consider that a possibility...
Quote from: luckybit on September 01, 2014, 05:34:08 amQuote from: TheOnion on September 01, 2014, 05:28:36 amQuote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 05:23:14 amGiven that due to TITAN I lost over 50K BTSX. I'd say yes. (It may be recovered at some point... who knows)I also think TITAN adds a ton of extra risk. 3 letter agencies absolutely hate privacy. It should've been added after it's used by big businesses.You have not lost them... I have 40 to 75K BTSX floating around the blockchain myself, my point is difference thou - BM is spending unnecessary time fixing a 'problem' he had no reason (no benefit) in creating in the first place.Assume 3 letter agencies already track you. You think they this forum?This is correct. i spent years managing 24x7 chat/video streaming channel and spent lots of time dealing with people that were clearly intelligence gathers and provocateurs in addition to the run of the mill trolls and crazies. Assume monitoring and trust...yourself.
Quote from: TheOnion on September 01, 2014, 05:28:36 amQuote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 05:23:14 amGiven that due to TITAN I lost over 50K BTSX. I'd say yes. (It may be recovered at some point... who knows)I also think TITAN adds a ton of extra risk. 3 letter agencies absolutely hate privacy. It should've been added after it's used by big businesses.You have not lost them... I have 40 to 75K BTSX floating around the blockchain myself, my point is difference thou - BM is spending unnecessary time fixing a 'problem' he had no reason (no benefit) in creating in the first place.Assume 3 letter agencies already track you. You think they this forum?
Quote from: bitmeat on September 01, 2014, 05:23:14 amGiven that due to TITAN I lost over 50K BTSX. I'd say yes. (It may be recovered at some point... who knows)I also think TITAN adds a ton of extra risk. 3 letter agencies absolutely hate privacy. It should've been added after it's used by big businesses.You have not lost them... I have 40 to 75K BTSX floating around the blockchain myself, my point is difference thou - BM is spending unnecessary time fixing a 'problem' he had no reason (no benefit) in creating in the first place.
Quote from: Brent.Allsop on September 01, 2014, 11:40:00 amQuote from: aloha on September 01, 2014, 11:12:11 amQuote from: liondani on September 01, 2014, 10:59:42 amTITAN is great...But it would be awesome if somebody could choose some accounts to work without it somehow with a button for example right to the account...So the user could choose which account are "hidden" and which not ...2 in 1...Sorry but I think that is terrible idea. You can imagine that in the future government could force payment gateways to only deal with BTSX account which are not using TITAN.If you take away the ability for people to choose, they will just move up a layer, and refuse to use that entire type of crypto currency which uses anything like Titan.It will always come back to hurt you when you do anything to destroy something someone else wants. It will always come back by someone else trying to destroy what you want, one way or another. The only way is to find out what everyone wants, and find creative ways to get all of it for everyone. Only then, will it not come back to byte you, by someone else trying to destroy what you want.Hi Brent.Allsop,I think it will be very hard to get all of it for everyone. With BTSX, will be either privacy for everyone or transparency for everyone. Just look at BTC, it is nearly impossible to get more privacy in the code now. In the perfect world I agree we could have a choice, but this is the world where governments would use this option to force everybody to be transparent so they would know everything about everybody. We have example of this already with so called tainted bitcoins. I am personally for 100% privacy for private individuals and 100% transparency for the governments and all public bodies. Governments spend our money therefore need for transparency, but not for us as we do not spend others people money. Maybe one day we will have fork of BTSX without TITAN if there is enough demand for it. For me I say more TITAN and more privacy for individuals.Respectfully aloha
Quote from: aloha on September 01, 2014, 11:12:11 amQuote from: liondani on September 01, 2014, 10:59:42 amTITAN is great...But it would be awesome if somebody could choose some accounts to work without it somehow with a button for example right to the account...So the user could choose which account are "hidden" and which not ...2 in 1...Sorry but I think that is terrible idea. You can imagine that in the future government could force payment gateways to only deal with BTSX account which are not using TITAN.If you take away the ability for people to choose, they will just move up a layer, and refuse to use that entire type of crypto currency which uses anything like Titan.It will always come back to hurt you when you do anything to destroy something someone else wants. It will always come back by someone else trying to destroy what you want, one way or another. The only way is to find out what everyone wants, and find creative ways to get all of it for everyone. Only then, will it not come back to byte you, by someone else trying to destroy what you want.
Quote from: liondani on September 01, 2014, 10:59:42 amTITAN is great...But it would be awesome if somebody could choose some accounts to work without it somehow with a button for example right to the account...So the user could choose which account are "hidden" and which not ...2 in 1...Sorry but I think that is terrible idea. You can imagine that in the future government could force payment gateways to only deal with BTSX account which are not using TITAN.
TITAN is great...But it would be awesome if somebody could choose some accounts to work without it somehow with a button for example right to the account...So the user could choose which account are "hidden" and which not ...2 in 1...
TITAN as it is implemented right now is mostly ease of use... The only way I know of funds being lost with TITAN is by sending to the wrong name and I have lost BTC the same way (having someone send to the wrong address).Future versions will eliminate the need for everyone to scan everything.Future versions will have enhanced privacy multi-part transfers.
How did you all lose BTSX?
i think TITAN is a good idea
Quote from: gyhy on September 01, 2014, 05:53:17 ami think TITAN is a good ideaYes, it is. Just a badly timed one.
I guess BM is spending enormous amount of time providing support for 'account/amounts' floating in the blockchain (for reference check the # of new commands in the last release), while the greatest invention after the internet, could have well gone without the benefits of TITAN (and still remained the greatest thing in the last x.... years).
TITAN is just about number one on my list why I am using bitshares (equally it would be transaction speed). To get rid of TITAN would be insane in my opinion. Anonymous coins will pretty much be the norm going forward. Why would it be any other way?