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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: MJK on July 15, 2015, 01:28:21 pm

Title: Security Lab Using Electromagnetic Waves to Extract Private Keys
Post by: MJK on July 15, 2015, 01:28:21 pm: Israeli Security Lab Using Electromagnetic Waves to Extract Private Keys

https://hacked.com/israeli-security-lab-using-electromagnetic-waves-extract-private-keys/

In 2.0 our multiig would help to prevent this, correct?
Title: Re: Security Lab Using Electromagnetic Waves to Extract Private Keys
Post by: xeroc on July 15, 2015, 01:53:15 pm: Multisig could potential make it a little safer as you need to "attack" at two different locations ..
I am sure that ECC implementions can be made a alot more robust against timing attacks like those ...
for example, the TreZor had some similar issue 6 months ago and the devs fixed it algorithmically
Title: Re: Security Lab Using Electromagnetic Waves to Extract Private Keys
Post by: Bitcoinfan on July 15, 2015, 02:19:31 pm: trezor user not affected?
Title: Re: Security Lab Using Electromagnetic Waves to Extract Private Keys
Post by: xeroc on July 15, 2015, 02:29:54 pm: http://www.reddit.com/r/TREZOR/comments/31z7hc/extracting_the_private_key_from_a_trezor_with_a/
Title: Re: Security Lab Using Electromagnetic Waves to Extract Private Keys
Post by: Bitcoinfan on July 15, 2015, 03:48:39 pm: Quote from: xeroc on July 15, 2015, 02:29:54 pm
http://www.reddit.com/r/TREZOR/comments/31z7hc/extracting_the_private_key_from_a_trezor_with_a/

Manual bruteforce-- not a electromagnetic wave. . . .

Are physical devices with no wireless capabilities affected?
Title: Re: Security Lab Using Electromagnetic Waves to Extract Private Keys
Post by: xeroc on July 16, 2015, 07:37:39 am: Quote from: Bitcoinfan on July 15, 2015, 03:48:39 pm
Manual bruteforce-- not a electromagnetic wave. . . .
Are physical devices with no wireless capabilities affected?
physically the same thing ... if (AC) current passes through a wire, a magnetic field is induced. Hence you can either grab voltage directly or you can see it in the air as magnetic field ..
that's why ethernet cables have several layers of shielding .. to not only prevent radiation away from the cable but also prevent "smog" inducing extra current in the cable ..

in short: physical devices with no wireless capabilities are still affected. ... unless you have bough a trezor in the pre-sale which comes with a metallic case .. (issue still exists, because you need to plugin a cable)