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大神heyD,把视频转发到优酷上了
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjgzNDk0Mzky.html

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General Discussion / Re: Reddit thread mentions keyhotee
« on: March 10, 2014, 04:55:25 pm »
copied form Reddit thread that you mentioned
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Ethereum may not be a scam, but it is little better. About 22.5% of Ethereum coins are being held by the developers for "development activities." If Ethereum were to become as popular as bitcoin, the developers would have 2 billion dollars for their "deveopment."

Unlike litecoins or most other coins, Ethereum was not distributed fairly for miners to make a choice whether or not to get in. Instead, much of Ethereum is pre-mined. They don't publicize this, so most people aren't aware.

I will never support Ethereum and I suggest that people here do not either. Nobody needs to assign themselves 22.5% of a currency for any purpose. Ethereum is little better than Ripples, which are mostly held by the corporation that created them, and which makes huge profits when their value increases.

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[–]sjalq 0 points 55 minutes ago

Seriously dude, you actually wasted a few minutes of your time taking me to town for "promoting" it because I felt is was futuristic.

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[–]sjalq 0 points 56 minutes ago

The pre-mine is irrelevant to its usefulness. It does support a bunch of things (like contract states and Turing complete contracts) that Bitcoin does not and will have a very difficult time implementing.

If the system is useful why care if they pre-mined it??

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[–]quintin3265 1 point 2 seconds ago

I'm currently having an argument with someone in /r/bitcoinmarkets who has $64m in bitcoins. I told him that if I had so many bitcoins, my money would be in T-bonds tomorrow and I would resign in 2 weeks.

Similarly, if I was a developer of Ethereum, and I suddenly discovered that my 22.5% of pre-mined Ethereum coins were worth $64m, I would sell everything I had, stop working on Ethereum, and do what I want with my life.

As you can see, the main problem with developers having an excessive amount of money is that there is no reason for them to continue development. They would be fools to take the chance at having a boss telling them what to do for the rest of their lives once they would click one button and be able to decide for the first time what they want to do every moment of every day.

You might be able to make an argument for premining with a smaller number of coins, but they simply don't need that much money. It's an absurd amount. Ethereum doesn't need to mature to even a fraction of litecoins' market cap. The developers can cut out, crash the market, and most importantly take all the domain knowledge with them, and the project will die because nobody knows how to continue it.



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不够通俗易懂,很拗口,像文言文

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 有好戏看。。。。
« on: March 10, 2014, 07:17:46 am »
pts 的出现 是给好多人 免费的午餐!!!!

pts扮演了一个很重要的角色。不是免费午餐那么简单,因为pts挖矿,大家认识了BTS并扩大了影响。 因为BTS的预期导致PTS价格一度超过LTC并一直保持在10美元左右为BTS的开发提供了资金。

尽管PTS会根据山寨币的价格来报价,但一个PTS 是对未来Invictus Innovations 所设计的众多DACs的BitShares的凭证,而不是只让人们猜测的空头支票。当你估计你PTS投资的表现时,你也需要加上现在你拥有的DACs的价值。
随着对未来价值的期望的进一步增长, PTS 的价值也会增长。当价值作为预期 DAC 的股份支付时, PTS会有所下跌并趋近于刚刚发布的DAC 的价格。PTS就像一个能存储未来DAC价值的电容器,直至价值从每一个发布的DAC中剥离并消失。因此,获得PTS的最佳时间是在每个充电周期的开始,也就是在一个大型的DAC刚刚发起之后。BitShares X 是一个关于DACs非常大的家族。当2月28日DACs作为副产品生产出来时,它应该为投资者创造这样的机会。

人们希望最终DAC 项目是在酝酿当中,每个项目只是总数的一小部分,而接下来的步骤是可以忽略不计。同时,随着下一个在 bitsharestalk即将出现的DAC 在公众的视野中被开发(并接受批评),PTS价值中的每个锯齿形坡道反映了市场的不断增长的的理解和信任。这提供了多重的切入点来满足所有投资者对风险与回报的评估。


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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 有好戏看。。。。
« on: March 10, 2014, 06:14:28 am »
本想翻译出来放微博上的,但想想里面涉及到了具体的某老师和机构,再想想里面有利益分配的问题,再联想起去年某老师出售股份的事情,就觉得算了吧,免得翻译不好误伤了别人。

平心而论,如果BM说的都是真的,那我真心庆幸他们赶走了Charles,我完全支持用POS/TAPOS,而不是POW,否则又走上了矿机预售,军备竞赛的老路,社区的关注点也会被转移。那时候还没有AGS,但以那样的方案,PTS能分到的极其有限。

BM是个有大抱负的人,我还是很相信他有能力带领大家掀起这场去中心化的运动。而且到目前为止他对市场的需求都是摸得很准的。某老师最近也消停了很多,没看见他最近有多少言论。BM的家乡我去年夏天开车经过。是个民风很朴实的地方。我目前倒是担心3i的推广力量不行。那个搞市场的墨西哥小伙好像不太对路。3i公司的地点离newyork 很近,华尔街的财主如果有兴趣也方便走动

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 有好戏看。。。。
« on: March 10, 2014, 05:22:20 am »
3i如果想做出顺应潮流的东西,就不能蛮干,我们还是静静期待吧。。。

3i目前的策略是正确的。优先发展bts平台,然后再健壮平台的基础上发展各种应用。看不出有什么蛮干的地方,请明示

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 有好戏看。。。。
« on: March 10, 2014, 05:19:07 am »

Your can be sure Charles is looking over your shoulder... patiently waiting...  ...and oop, there he is again.  We may be able to start a bit-Hoskinson and take bets on when he will reappear.

我们中文区也弄个bingo DAC试试看charles什么时候还来这里挑衅。。。。哈哈 赔率该是多少?

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中文 (Chinese) / 有好戏看。。。。
« on: March 10, 2014, 04:45:52 am »
前后2个ceo今天又为各自不同的理念斗嘴了。BM还是比较诚实的,charles比较不讲理。凭心而论charles那样的理念会圈到不少钱,但无助于3I和bitshare平台的快速发展。下面都是charles出的招。没有一样是考虑到我们pts和ags投资者的利益。今后如果bts真的做到apple或facebook那样,今天的吵架应该是很精彩的拍电影素材。 charles目前用同样的策略在引领Ethereum,Ethereum应该会在今年10月份发布,charles认为bitcoin今年底价格能比目前景气。所以选那个适合发布,当然也当心他们的cpu挖矿机制是否会被GPU或asic给破解,所以测试时间就长一点。Ethereum其实目前还无法解决订单合同实时更新问题,


The original business plan when Charles was CEO was something along the lines of:
   1) Build Keyhotee and attract a lot of eyeballs (users)
   2) Monetize these eyeballs through hardware sales (wallet, miners, add-on services)
   3) Build DACs that use our dedicated mining hardware.
   4) Run a mining pool and collect all of the fees.

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不好意思,我没有国内的空间,大家只有翻墙了

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« on: March 10, 2014, 02:13:34 am »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4O3uOxm5Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4O3uOxm5A

here is a good comparison  video for BitShares vs Ethereum

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General Discussion / Re: Ethereum - better than Bitshares?
« on: March 10, 2014, 02:04:32 am »
1)Ethereum may having trouble with its design. I bet Ethereum will drop the cpu mining in Q3 and release its first version in Q4
2) Ethereum is trying to build DAO that use its dedicated mining hardware which may go nowhere


Yep!  This will be on Let's Talk Bitcoin! in early February.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4O3uOxm5A

看这个BM的录像

大神heyD,把视频转发到优酷上了
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjgzNDk0Mzky.html

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nxt先把传销的嫌疑漂白了再说。目前除了出了nxt币外,去中心的交易平台还在天上飞,不知道什么时候能落地

不会因为它努力,我就认可。真有本事拿出点看得到的东西再到别人坛子里说。

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3i的核心在bitshare,那个钱包是前ceo糊弄人圈钱用的。已经被bm优化到2线去了。看下面的红字

But profit will only be produced by decentralized autonomous companies, so where do i3's profit seeking objectives actually meet with their theory of DACs?  And how exactly did li xiaolai and any other initial investor see that their investment would return over time?

It has been said/implied in other places, but I would like to outline our strategy for Invictus making a return for the shareholders of I3.

1) Invictus develops software at-cost and takes no profit as a company.  Ie: We will be spending 100% of AGS funds on R&D with no fee-for-service.
      a) Officers in the company receive salaries far below market value.

2) Invictus used initial VC funds to do the following:
      a) build & develop a business plan
      b) build PTS
      c) mine & buy PTS
      d) contribute funds to AGS on equal footing with everyone else.
      e) we have only received $450K of the initial $575K commitment as scheduled.

3) As a result of the initial steps the company holds free and clear (as profit) about 5% of the Feb 28th snapshot which we estimate to be worth about $2.5 million based upon PTS price prior to snapshot.  If we were to distribute everything except the AGS funds our investors would already see a profit and we haven't even released our first full DAC yet.

4) As we spend the 4+ million in AGS funds we have received we will grow the value of our 5% along with the other 95% which is owned by the community.

5) The nice thing about this strategy is that our 'profits' are all in the form of capital gains.   

The numbers and figures used in this example are mere approximations and should not be construed to represent actual numbers which only our accountant has.

The original business plan when Charles was CEO was something along the lines of:
   1) Build Keyhotee and attract a lot of eyeballs (users)
   2) Monetize these eyeballs through hardware sales (wallet, miners, add-on services)
   3) Build DACs that use our dedicated mining hardware.
   4) Run a mining pool and collect all of the fees.


As you can see we had to pivot our business plan when I eliminated mining.   You can also see that our new business model aligns our interests with those of the community much better than the old plan.   By owning shares in profit generating DACs Invictus in turn also generates profits.

Lastly we are partnering with other companies and we are earning revenue from consulting and custom development (outside of AGS).   
     

加是得加,前提是3I知道怎么加,和理解这种做法的必要性.  不是我们在这等待,到时候就有了.很难说.
面对现实,看看邮箱的UI 设计,那得是多菜多不关心用户的体验的程序员才能做成那样.在做程序前,能不能先画个图,就按这个设计做?如果他能做好,还用大家操啥心,闭眼等待就好了.


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