Could the BTS being considered as "analog" to TARGET2-Securities
Or they simply in different weight categories /have different purpose?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARGET2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARGET2_Securities
PS Target is clearing system, centralised Ripple
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Quote from: hasher on January 14, 2014, 06:00:50 pm

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Quote from: hasher on January 14, 2014, 03:13:26 pm

Quote from: barwizi on January 14, 2014, 01:25:58 pm

lol, desperation.

this emotional thread so transparent to understand, i think its not about Invictus or Bts project only, its about current cryptoindustry in whole, many analysts alarmists think that in near 2-6 months S&P500 going to collapse very deeply. I mean it would be as bad as  in 2008. That prediction is influence negatively sentiment to BTC/USD rate.
BTC rate/sentiment affect whole cryptos, because altcoins are derivatives of bitcoins.
I think that in near term (1-12 months) prices to all cryptocurrencies awaits down trend, even with superb marketing like in nxt proj.
So...its good year for investments
imho my 2 cents

how should a stock market crash effect crypto currencies in a negative way??

idk, its tendency, it was like that in 2008 USD index skyrocketed in to air

lol if this happens and u have 1 BTC u can buy like 3 houses
but beware the gold holders ..they will try to crack your head open with their heavy gold bars to find your brain wallet 

it depends on market situation, nobody know how people will react during stock market decline, thats all i know.

Compliance is a noble goal, but it can't be achieved without the absence or sacrifice of worthy values.

Do not forget that we are talking about the establishment of disruptive technologies. It is interesting to see people feel it is possible to negotiate the legal and financial obstacles that are intended to block competitors. Compliance only lasts until an anointed agency changes the rules on you. You do not achieve escape velocity by following the rules but by rendering the rules moot. None of us would have heard of Bitcoin if success depended on the ability to negotiate regulatory hurdles. Bitcoin runs full speed around the hurdles because it values the ideals of liberty more than the blessings that come from kissing the ring of those that write the rules.

You are supposed to believe it is possible to disrupt established markets by playing by the rules, because otherwise you could not be stopped. The process uses your resources against you and ultimately helps your accepted master refine and enforce the rules by which you will comply. The vicious cycle ends when rules need to be made so oppressive (to restrain competition) that people finally reject the premise that they need to be ruled over. Positive change requires someone willing to avoid the obstacles to demonstrate what is possible. Freedom is when people act with knowledge that rule makers need you more than you need them and that the benefit of the rules is an illusion with fleeting value.

Sell your conformance if you think it will benefit, but mind the cost and be mindful of the bigger picture. It seems possible now that this dream started with an absence of worthy values and therefore nothing would be lost.

after deeply investigation of Bts concept i come to conclusion that this system not going to be disruptive, but complementary (may be wrong though).

I invested 4 days with my entire team (I run a start-up too) , setting up 1000's of servers (close to 4000 for those wondering) and burned around 40000 dollars (not to mention time wasted doing this while I could focus on my start-up instead),  and mined a seizable amount of coins.

i hear its a cry of despair from someone who was too risky, too greedy and wanted to receive fast return on long term investment, that happens all the time with so many people.

well, im not a big investor, and i understand your pain, but hey,
even if you had invested this money into other project you could lose, its always start up risks like anywhere else.
but i agree with you that putting Angelshares in cross with PTS decreasing somehow value of PTS.
But i think its make Bitshares project more "fair" to latecomers, and..its still fair to holders of PTS, because they will receive same (or more) share of project as it was said in initital proposition
imho just my 1 cent

i used this to solve boost issue, this could take awhile to compile though:

# Get boost source, compile and install
wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost/1.54.0/boost_1_54_0.tar.gz
tar -xzvf boost_1_54_0.tar.gz
cd boost_1_54_0
./bootstrap.sh --prefix=/usr/local
sudo ./b2 install --with=all

# Tell your system where to find boost
export BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH="/usr/local/include/boost"
export BOOST_LIB_PATH="/usr/local/lib"
sudo ldconfig

try like this:

sudo apt-get update
apt-get -y install git g++  libdb++-dev build-essential libgmp-dev
apt-get -y install screen  libdb-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev
apt-get install yasm build-essential libboost-system-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev zlib1g-dev

wget http://wrzucacz.pl/file/9331386996946/jhprotominer-yvg1900-M7h-linux64-generic.tgz
cd jhprotominer-yvg1900-M7h-linux64-generic
cd linux64-generic-512M

./jhprotominer -o ypool.net:8081 -u yourworkername -p 1 -t 3 -F 0 -A