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And *eagleeye* should also keep his original name... ~CfA~
Quote from: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 03:19:55 amQuote from: theFuzz on September 01, 2014, 12:32:15 pmWhat if all Delegates in the BitShares Ecosystem were to agree on a few absolutely imperative collaborative efforts in hopes of protecting each other in the case of legal entanglements with institutions that (although showing they do not deserve it) wish to have ultimate control over all human interaction? They would do this through their well established "legal" pathways and regulations. We can bet that when the system starts to really falter that crypto (not corruption of the current leadership) will be blamed--CryptoTerrorist is a term that will likely become common place as the powers that be try to push the buck onto those who are trying to fix the problems they created. With that said, Delegates will be the first place for these institutions to attack...So wouldn't it be worth it for all delegates to sign on to give a small % of their tx fees to a fund for legal fees in the case that any delegate is so labeled and embroiled in mounds of legal consequence?We could even ask users if they would like to increase their tx fees by a slight amount to ensure that the fund becomes robust as quickly as possible. Just a thought--please consider and give opinions below.What do you mean CryptoTerrorists? Do you believe because we will be putting people out of jobs? Or that a hacker will hack the system? Or that the NSA will hack the system because they have corrupted PGP (Pretty good programming encryption) and cause a false flag? I have PGP from 30 years ago that the NSA does not have corrupted from a scientist. It is on CD.I mean that right now markets are soaring at record heights and 95% of the population doesn't know the difference between fiat and money. If(When) the economies around the world crash because of mismanagement and corruption from on high (Congress, for instance, is allowed to LEGALLY do insider trading (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130416/08344222725/congress-quickly-quietly-rolls-back-insider-trading-rules-itself.shtml), those who are largely to blame due to their cocaine, hooker and power addictions are going to look for fall-guys. Why not pin a collapsing stock market on cryptocurrency? Most people do not even know what it is and the media has already primed the pump with the whole "bitcoin paying for terrorism" thing: (http://www.coindesk.com/isis-bitcoin-donations-fund-jihadist-movements/ and here http://rt.com/usa/157552-defense-pentagon-bitcoin-terrorism/). And let's face it, decentralized exchanges that don't allow High Frequency Trading (HFT) or naked shorting? How do you think the market manipulators at JPMorgan and the other Top Banks are going to feel about that?This technology is going to bring Direct Democracy to the people as well. Many people in positions of power will be out of the job because we will not need them!That is why we need legal teams, and PR teams. We need delegates that support projects that fix big problems we never thought it possible to fix. As for charity--BitShares has a DAC for that. On Taxes...Why is it so hard to believe that good people can of their own accord uplift those in need? There are a great many good-hearted people out there who, if they received 20% more of their pay, would likely use it in ways that would uplift more people from poverty than government 1.0 (part f the Direct Democracy thing). Quote from: onceuponatime on September 02, 2014, 04:11:01 amWithout government we will not go back to Kings. We will go forward to Sovereign Individuals.All wars are banker's wars (and they often fund both sides - at interest).Yep... "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws". ~Mayer Amschel Rothschild~Why would we give them control of our money supply through regulatory framework when we have the opportunity to build society 2.0 and bring the world to a velvet revolution--where innovation jettison's us away from the problems we face instead of mass murder and theft?
Quote from: theFuzz on September 01, 2014, 12:32:15 pmWhat if all Delegates in the BitShares Ecosystem were to agree on a few absolutely imperative collaborative efforts in hopes of protecting each other in the case of legal entanglements with institutions that (although showing they do not deserve it) wish to have ultimate control over all human interaction? They would do this through their well established "legal" pathways and regulations. We can bet that when the system starts to really falter that crypto (not corruption of the current leadership) will be blamed--CryptoTerrorist is a term that will likely become common place as the powers that be try to push the buck onto those who are trying to fix the problems they created. With that said, Delegates will be the first place for these institutions to attack...So wouldn't it be worth it for all delegates to sign on to give a small % of their tx fees to a fund for legal fees in the case that any delegate is so labeled and embroiled in mounds of legal consequence?We could even ask users if they would like to increase their tx fees by a slight amount to ensure that the fund becomes robust as quickly as possible. Just a thought--please consider and give opinions below.What do you mean CryptoTerrorists? Do you believe because we will be putting people out of jobs? Or that a hacker will hack the system? Or that the NSA will hack the system because they have corrupted PGP (Pretty good programming encryption) and cause a false flag? I have PGP from 30 years ago that the NSA does not have corrupted from a scientist. It is on CD.
What if all Delegates in the BitShares Ecosystem were to agree on a few absolutely imperative collaborative efforts in hopes of protecting each other in the case of legal entanglements with institutions that (although showing they do not deserve it) wish to have ultimate control over all human interaction? They would do this through their well established "legal" pathways and regulations. We can bet that when the system starts to really falter that crypto (not corruption of the current leadership) will be blamed--CryptoTerrorist is a term that will likely become common place as the powers that be try to push the buck onto those who are trying to fix the problems they created. With that said, Delegates will be the first place for these institutions to attack...So wouldn't it be worth it for all delegates to sign on to give a small % of their tx fees to a fund for legal fees in the case that any delegate is so labeled and embroiled in mounds of legal consequence?We could even ask users if they would like to increase their tx fees by a slight amount to ensure that the fund becomes robust as quickly as possible. Just a thought--please consider and give opinions below.
Without government we will not go back to Kings. We will go forward to Sovereign Individuals.All wars are banker's wars (and they often fund both sides - at interest).
It is now 'theFuzz'?In your honor I am revering back to my original name.
Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. I have no problem with that label. I don't have time to debate early American economics with you. Naturally I disagree with you about both the frequency of what used to be called panics (you got one thing right. We don't have them anymore. Now we call them recessions). And what caused these panics. You have bought into the lie that governments are necessary. I'm sorry I'm a little busy right now. I really would love to debate these things with you some day.
I also would have sat on the left side of the French legislature. Right next to bastiat. So you could call me a leftist.
Quote from: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 03:31:50 amNo it should not happen that people steal property under threat of kidnapping or death. However, everyone should have a house. Everyone should be almost free to pursuit what they want to do. We can not have a few people own most of the system or 90% of the system. We must spread around the wealth and that is why Norway having lots of resources (much like United States) but it has an extremely high absolute standard of living. It has low suicide rates, it has a high general of happeniness and cohesion. We must not have the Wal-Mart family who only helps themselves and empoverishes the rest of 3 million people. Costco will be bigger than Wal-Mart one day, and it pays its employs $18 - $20 dollars an hour, a middle class or almost middle class wage.Fight who? Who are you talking about?Free people will never be equal, and equal people will never be free.I agree with you about a lot of the problems this world faces. I am not a fan of governments or corporations. I just want you to realize that when you say taxes. What you are actually talking about is men with guns stealing peoples property under the threat of kidnapping or death. That is what taxes are. If you don't believe me, stop paying yours and see what happens. You could argue that we must allow men with guns to steal peoples things so they can give them to the poor. I however would disagree. I think that theft is always wrong. Even if you intend to do good with it. (this is totally ignoring the efficacy of welfare. Thats an entirely different argument.)Also. You are the one that keeps saying we are in a war. What do you do in a war? Why do Americans always want to wage wars on things?I have no wish to fight a war against anyone.
No it should not happen that people steal property under threat of kidnapping or death. However, everyone should have a house. Everyone should be almost free to pursuit what they want to do. We can not have a few people own most of the system or 90% of the system. We must spread around the wealth and that is why Norway having lots of resources (much like United States) but it has an extremely high absolute standard of living. It has low suicide rates, it has a high general of happeniness and cohesion. We must not have the Wal-Mart family who only helps themselves and empoverishes the rest of 3 million people. Costco will be bigger than Wal-Mart one day, and it pays its employs $18 - $20 dollars an hour, a middle class or almost middle class wage.Fight who? Who are you talking about?
Quote from: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 02:29:37 amQuote from: theFuzz on September 01, 2014, 07:19:45 pmQuote from: soniq on September 01, 2014, 07:03:23 pmQuote from: maqifrnswa on September 01, 2014, 06:40:01 pmRather than being defensive and assuming the government will go after delegates, I think a better solution would be for delegates to be proactive and participate in discussions with regulators. My strategy is to be 100% legit all the time, I'm not going to hide and hope my anonymity can protect me (it can't). At the same time, I don't see any clear regulatory problems at the moment, but I plan on participating in discussions with regulators and complying with whatever comes up as the proper way to legitimize/protect consumers/follow the law (whatever someone wants to call it). As of now, BTSX and BitUSD are just crypto currencires and as such I'm following the proper tax laws and FINCEN guidance as any miner of cryptocurrencies should.If bitsharesx really takes off, delegates (and users) may want to get together and figure out a centralized approach to handling regulation - sort of like the bitcoin foundation does for bitcoin.well said funds could be pooled to create a lobby group to proactively work with regulators100% "legit" means that the interests who are currently employing treasonous measures against the public will gain more control over the ecosystem. The only reason, for instance, that the IRS still exists and forces "taxes" (read theft) on citizens is because there have not been enough people who got pissed off about the IRS' Illegal Operations to change the status quo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azynljXxbC0). Being "legit" is fine...but it is a whole other thing to comply with illegal requirements simply out of fear that we will be imprisoned or otherwise penalized. This simply lends to the public's sense of legitimacy over these types of institutions...which most can agree, are illegal (meaning those working for them should be the ones penalized!). This is precisely why I am thinking it is important to have a legal team there and ready in the instances that legal cases present themselves as opportunities to set precedents favorable to our ecosystem. You have to understand taxes are good, America in itself has a large part of the population that is in poverty. It is the US government that has the wrong priorities ($600 billion US a year in military spending, while only $6 - $30 billion a year in food stamps, MAYBE (MAYBE I am wrong in how it should be set up)).What im getting at is some taxes is good like Canada with only 20% and (I know Russia is our enemy at the moment) but Russia at 10 - 15% taxes (I believe).We need to get a large part of the population out of poverty but military spending and an imperialistic mentality (in terms of US government foreign policy) will not help our population.You must realize (im sorry if I say that too much) but this is a very disruptive technology. We could put lots of people out of work (bank tellers, people that work for NYSE, NASDAQ) so we do have enemies and this is a war. I like Wikipedias definition of taxesQuoteA tax (from the Latin taxo; "rate") is a financial charge or other levy imposed upon a taxpayer (an individual or legal entity) by a state or the functional equivalent of a state such that failure to pay, or evasion of or resistance to collection, is punishable by law. Taxes are also imposed by many administrative divisions. Taxes consist of direct or indirect taxes and may be paid in money or as its labour equivalent.While poverty can be a terrible thing. If your solution involves men with guns stealing peoples property under threat of kidnapping or death, then I cannot support it. You are essentially saying that theft is okay, as long as you intend to do good with it. I believe that the initiation of violence or the threat of violence for any reason other than self defense is immoral. This is disruptive technology. Many individuals will find themselves freed from unproductive use of their abilities, as more productive means become available. This will allow them to pursue more productive uses of their assets. This will no doubt be unpleasant for some. Some of them may even attempt to fight this progress. They will probably find like minded simpletons in places of power throughout the worlds governments. This is not a war, and the only enemies I can see are those that believe they have the right to use violence against people engaged in peaceful commerce. I do not propose that we fight them. I propose that we continue to work to make them and their disgusting world view irrelevant. That is ultimately what this technology makes possible.
Quote from: theFuzz on September 01, 2014, 07:19:45 pmQuote from: soniq on September 01, 2014, 07:03:23 pmQuote from: maqifrnswa on September 01, 2014, 06:40:01 pmRather than being defensive and assuming the government will go after delegates, I think a better solution would be for delegates to be proactive and participate in discussions with regulators. My strategy is to be 100% legit all the time, I'm not going to hide and hope my anonymity can protect me (it can't). At the same time, I don't see any clear regulatory problems at the moment, but I plan on participating in discussions with regulators and complying with whatever comes up as the proper way to legitimize/protect consumers/follow the law (whatever someone wants to call it). As of now, BTSX and BitUSD are just crypto currencires and as such I'm following the proper tax laws and FINCEN guidance as any miner of cryptocurrencies should.If bitsharesx really takes off, delegates (and users) may want to get together and figure out a centralized approach to handling regulation - sort of like the bitcoin foundation does for bitcoin.well said funds could be pooled to create a lobby group to proactively work with regulators100% "legit" means that the interests who are currently employing treasonous measures against the public will gain more control over the ecosystem. The only reason, for instance, that the IRS still exists and forces "taxes" (read theft) on citizens is because there have not been enough people who got pissed off about the IRS' Illegal Operations to change the status quo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azynljXxbC0). Being "legit" is fine...but it is a whole other thing to comply with illegal requirements simply out of fear that we will be imprisoned or otherwise penalized. This simply lends to the public's sense of legitimacy over these types of institutions...which most can agree, are illegal (meaning those working for them should be the ones penalized!). This is precisely why I am thinking it is important to have a legal team there and ready in the instances that legal cases present themselves as opportunities to set precedents favorable to our ecosystem. You have to understand taxes are good, America in itself has a large part of the population that is in poverty. It is the US government that has the wrong priorities ($600 billion US a year in military spending, while only $6 - $30 billion a year in food stamps, MAYBE (MAYBE I am wrong in how it should be set up)).What im getting at is some taxes is good like Canada with only 20% and (I know Russia is our enemy at the moment) but Russia at 10 - 15% taxes (I believe).We need to get a large part of the population out of poverty but military spending and an imperialistic mentality (in terms of US government foreign policy) will not help our population.You must realize (im sorry if I say that too much) but this is a very disruptive technology. We could put lots of people out of work (bank tellers, people that work for NYSE, NASDAQ) so we do have enemies and this is a war.
Quote from: soniq on September 01, 2014, 07:03:23 pmQuote from: maqifrnswa on September 01, 2014, 06:40:01 pmRather than being defensive and assuming the government will go after delegates, I think a better solution would be for delegates to be proactive and participate in discussions with regulators. My strategy is to be 100% legit all the time, I'm not going to hide and hope my anonymity can protect me (it can't). At the same time, I don't see any clear regulatory problems at the moment, but I plan on participating in discussions with regulators and complying with whatever comes up as the proper way to legitimize/protect consumers/follow the law (whatever someone wants to call it). As of now, BTSX and BitUSD are just crypto currencires and as such I'm following the proper tax laws and FINCEN guidance as any miner of cryptocurrencies should.If bitsharesx really takes off, delegates (and users) may want to get together and figure out a centralized approach to handling regulation - sort of like the bitcoin foundation does for bitcoin.well said funds could be pooled to create a lobby group to proactively work with regulators100% "legit" means that the interests who are currently employing treasonous measures against the public will gain more control over the ecosystem. The only reason, for instance, that the IRS still exists and forces "taxes" (read theft) on citizens is because there have not been enough people who got pissed off about the IRS' Illegal Operations to change the status quo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azynljXxbC0). Being "legit" is fine...but it is a whole other thing to comply with illegal requirements simply out of fear that we will be imprisoned or otherwise penalized. This simply lends to the public's sense of legitimacy over these types of institutions...which most can agree, are illegal (meaning those working for them should be the ones penalized!). This is precisely why I am thinking it is important to have a legal team there and ready in the instances that legal cases present themselves as opportunities to set precedents favorable to our ecosystem.
Quote from: maqifrnswa on September 01, 2014, 06:40:01 pmRather than being defensive and assuming the government will go after delegates, I think a better solution would be for delegates to be proactive and participate in discussions with regulators. My strategy is to be 100% legit all the time, I'm not going to hide and hope my anonymity can protect me (it can't). At the same time, I don't see any clear regulatory problems at the moment, but I plan on participating in discussions with regulators and complying with whatever comes up as the proper way to legitimize/protect consumers/follow the law (whatever someone wants to call it). As of now, BTSX and BitUSD are just crypto currencires and as such I'm following the proper tax laws and FINCEN guidance as any miner of cryptocurrencies should.If bitsharesx really takes off, delegates (and users) may want to get together and figure out a centralized approach to handling regulation - sort of like the bitcoin foundation does for bitcoin.well said funds could be pooled to create a lobby group to proactively work with regulators
Rather than being defensive and assuming the government will go after delegates, I think a better solution would be for delegates to be proactive and participate in discussions with regulators. My strategy is to be 100% legit all the time, I'm not going to hide and hope my anonymity can protect me (it can't). At the same time, I don't see any clear regulatory problems at the moment, but I plan on participating in discussions with regulators and complying with whatever comes up as the proper way to legitimize/protect consumers/follow the law (whatever someone wants to call it). As of now, BTSX and BitUSD are just crypto currencires and as such I'm following the proper tax laws and FINCEN guidance as any miner of cryptocurrencies should.If bitsharesx really takes off, delegates (and users) may want to get together and figure out a centralized approach to handling regulation - sort of like the bitcoin foundation does for bitcoin.
A tax (from the Latin taxo; "rate") is a financial charge or other levy imposed upon a taxpayer (an individual or legal entity) by a state or the functional equivalent of a state such that failure to pay, or evasion of or resistance to collection, is punishable by law. Taxes are also imposed by many administrative divisions. Taxes consist of direct or indirect taxes and may be paid in money or as its labour equivalent.
Quote from: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 02:29:37 amQuote from: theFuzz on September 01, 2014, 07:19:45 pmQuote from: soniq on September 01, 2014, 07:03:23 pmQuote from: maqifrnswa on September 01, 2014, 06:40:01 pmRather than being defensive and assuming the government will go after delegates, I think a better solution would be for delegates to be proactive and participate in discussions with regulators. My strategy is to be 100% legit all the time, I'm not going to hide and hope my anonymity can protect me (it can't). At the same time, I don't see any clear regulatory problems at the moment, but I plan on participating in discussions with regulators and complying with whatever comes up as the proper way to legitimize/protect consumers/follow the law (whatever someone wants to call it). As of now, BTSX and BitUSD are just crypto currencires and as such I'm following the proper tax laws and FINCEN guidance as any miner of cryptocurrencies should.If bitsharesx really takes off, delegates (and users) may want to get together and figure out a centralized approach to handling regulation - sort of like the bitcoin foundation does for bitcoin.well said funds could be pooled to create a lobby group to proactively work with regulators100% "legit" means that the interests who are currently employing treasonous measures against the public will gain more control over the ecosystem. The only reason, for instance, that the IRS still exists and forces "taxes" (read theft) on citizens is because there have not been enough people who got pissed off about the IRS' Illegal Operations to change the status quo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azynljXxbC0). Being "legit" is fine...but it is a whole other thing to comply with illegal requirements simply out of fear that we will be imprisoned or otherwise penalized. This simply lends to the public's sense of legitimacy over these types of institutions...which most can agree, are illegal (meaning those working for them should be the ones penalized!). This is precisely why I am thinking it is important to have a legal team there and ready in the instances that legal cases present themselves as opportunities to set precedents favorable to our ecosystem. You have to understand taxes are good, America in itself has a large part of the population that is in poverty. It is the US government that has the wrong priorities ($600 billion US a year in military spending, while only $6 - $30 billion a year in food stamps, MAYBE (MAYBE I am wrong in how it should be set up)).What im getting at is some taxes is good like Canada with only 20% and (I know Russia is our enemy at the moment) but Russia at 10 - 15% taxes (I believe).We need to get a large part of the population out of poverty but military spending and an imperialistic mentality (in terms of US government foreign policy) will not help our population.You must realize (im sorry if I say that too much) but this is a very disruptive technology. We could put lots of people out of work (bank tellers, people that work for NYSE, NASDAQ) so we do have enemies and this is a war. I don't think NYSE/NASDAQ are our enemies. The NASDAQ will not be replaced by Bitshares X. It will be supplemented but not replaced because Bitshares X is like a parallel virtual market. We cannot issue legal securities on Bitshares X so what does NASDAQ have to worry about?As far as putting people out of work? Automation is going to put hundreds of millions of people out of work in the decades ahead. Does that mean the entire IT industry is the enemy to the service and other industries?When you look at the big picture you see that DACs are just part of the larger trend toward automation. If technological unemployment is a result then maybe people can work for DACs and there can be employment in these new industries we are trying to create. Old industries have to fall sometimes so that the economy can survive.
Quote from: theFuzz on September 01, 2014, 12:32:15 pmWhat if all Delegates in the BitShares Ecosystem were to agree on a few absolutely imperative collaborative efforts in hopes of protecting each other in the case of legal entanglements with institutions that (although showing they do not deserve it) wish to have ultimate control over all human interaction? They would do this through their well established "legal" pathways and regulations. We can bet that when the system starts to really falter that crypto (not corruption of the current leadership) will be blamed--CryptoTerrorist is a term that will likely become common place as the powers that be try to push the buck onto those who are trying to fix the problems they created. With that said, Delegates will be the first place for these institutions to attack...So wouldn't it be worth it for all delegates to sign on to give a small % of their tx fees to a fund for legal fees in the case that any delegate is so labeled and embroiled in mounds of legal consequence?We could even ask users if they would like to increase their tx fees by a slight amount to ensure that the fund becomes robust as quickly as possible. Just a thought--please consider and give opinions below.Suppose you do have a legal fund? Delegates may also need friendly relationships with military and law enforcement to protect them from being extorted by the underworld.I don't see how a legal fund will solve all the kinds of problems which could await delegates. I think legal problems are somewhat easy compared to the other risks.
Quote from: theFuzz on September 01, 2014, 07:19:45 pmQuote from: soniq on September 01, 2014, 07:03:23 pmQuote from: maqifrnswa on September 01, 2014, 06:40:01 pmRather than being defensive and assuming the government will go after delegates, I think a better solution would be for delegates to be proactive and participate in discussions with regulators. My strategy is to be 100% legit all the time, I'm not going to hide and hope my anonymity can protect me (it can't). At the same time, I don't see any clear regulatory problems at the moment, but I plan on participating in discussions with regulators and complying with whatever comes up as the proper way to legitimize/protect consumers/follow the law (whatever someone wants to call it). As of now, BTSX and BitUSD are just crypto currencires and as such I'm following the proper tax laws and FINCEN guidance as any miner of cryptocurrencies should.If bitsharesx really takes off, delegates (and users) may want to get together and figure out a centralized approach to handling regulation - sort of like the bitcoin foundation does for bitcoin.well said funds could be pooled to create a lobby group to proactively work with regulators100% "legit" means that the interests who are currently employing treasonous measures against the public will gain more control over the ecosystem. The only reason, for instance, that the IRS still exists and forces "taxes" (read theft) on citizens is because there have not been enough people who got pissed off about the IRS' Illegal Operations to change the status quo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azynljXxbC0). Being "legit" is fine...but it is a whole other thing to comply with illegal requirements simply out of fear that we will be imprisoned or otherwise penalized. This simply lends to the public's sense of legitimacy over these types of institutions...which most can agree, are illegal (meaning those working for them should be the ones penalized!). This is precisely why I am thinking it is important to have a legal team there and ready in the instances that legal cases present themselves as opportunities to set precedents favorable to our ecosystem. Perception is reality. If Bitshares delegates are making the appearance that they are trying to be legit goes a long ways towards positive public perception. A good example is carbon credits, it appears that big buisness is trying to be enviromentally freindly to the public. But truth be known they dont really care as long as they are protecting the bottom line.
So right now the daily rate is very low?
"blockchain_accumulated_fees": "260,192.88607 BTSX", "blockchain_delegate_pay_rate": "2.15106 BTSX",And for more details:Code: [Select]ID NAME (* next in line) APPROVAL PRODUCED MISSED RELIABILITY PAY RATE PAY BALANCE LAST BLOCK============================================================================================================================10206 cny.bts500 16.85455359 % 3387 30 99.12 % 80 % 2,674.15508 BTSX 37344314758 bts.coin 14.79362673 % 2360 11 99.54 % 90 % 950.03947 BTSX 37335814020 google.helloworld 13.38721224 % 2143 1 99.95 % 80 % 313.85624 BTSX 37345018771 x.ebit 12.27658281 % 559 1 99.82 % 80 % 315.55295 BTSX 37344210207 usd.bts500 12.08120389 % 3389 25 99.27 % 80 % 2,674.41942 BTSX 37339910214 eur.bts500 12.03326994 % 3382 29 99.15 % 80 % 2,662.14955 BTSX 3734258790 delegate.adam 11.74809644 % 3126 368 89.47 % 100 % 4,473.86809 BTSX 3733092151 delegate-alt 11.63305137 % 2840 73 97.49 % 100 % 1,369.78641 BTSX 37343118764 now.dacwin 11.59358993 % 1261 0 100.00 % 100 % 1,903.79477 BTSX 37341318766 future.dacwin 11.50148011 % 1251 0 100.00 % 100 % 1,888.83802 BTSX 37342414757 e.coin 11.35053374 % 494 7 98.60 % 90 % 771.41764 BTSX 3734532156 delegate-baozi 11.08585789 % 3550 36 99.00 % 100 % 638.55987 BTSX 373406334 chinese 11.05490832 % 3565 69 98.10 % 80 % 909.65944 BTSX 37343210173 dpos.crazybit 10.93704661 % 3301 15 99.55 % 90 % 2,160.90164 BTSX 37344410243 delegate.bitsuperlab 10.85605587 % 2394 2 99.92 % 100 % 3,268.82911 BTSX 37332310323 btsx.chinesecommunity 10.85116130 % 3287 123 96.39 % 50 % 194.33625 BTSX 37340410287 mr.agsexplorer 10.83899255 % 3239 92 97.24 % 100 % 49.53830 BTSX 3734169879 delegate.xeroc 10.76160259 % 3279 131 96.16 % 100 % 899.77057 BTSX 3734201193 dele-puppy 10.69383611 % 3410 85 97.57 % 10 % 111.78069 BTSX 373389129 boombastic 10.62097325 % 3394 112 96.81 % 100 % 397.49887 BTSX 373434
ID NAME (* next in line) APPROVAL PRODUCED MISSED RELIABILITY PAY RATE PAY BALANCE LAST BLOCK============================================================================================================================10206 cny.bts500 16.85455359 % 3387 30 99.12 % 80 % 2,674.15508 BTSX 37344314758 bts.coin 14.79362673 % 2360 11 99.54 % 90 % 950.03947 BTSX 37335814020 google.helloworld 13.38721224 % 2143 1 99.95 % 80 % 313.85624 BTSX 37345018771 x.ebit 12.27658281 % 559 1 99.82 % 80 % 315.55295 BTSX 37344210207 usd.bts500 12.08120389 % 3389 25 99.27 % 80 % 2,674.41942 BTSX 37339910214 eur.bts500 12.03326994 % 3382 29 99.15 % 80 % 2,662.14955 BTSX 3734258790 delegate.adam 11.74809644 % 3126 368 89.47 % 100 % 4,473.86809 BTSX 3733092151 delegate-alt 11.63305137 % 2840 73 97.49 % 100 % 1,369.78641 BTSX 37343118764 now.dacwin 11.59358993 % 1261 0 100.00 % 100 % 1,903.79477 BTSX 37341318766 future.dacwin 11.50148011 % 1251 0 100.00 % 100 % 1,888.83802 BTSX 37342414757 e.coin 11.35053374 % 494 7 98.60 % 90 % 771.41764 BTSX 3734532156 delegate-baozi 11.08585789 % 3550 36 99.00 % 100 % 638.55987 BTSX 373406334 chinese 11.05490832 % 3565 69 98.10 % 80 % 909.65944 BTSX 37343210173 dpos.crazybit 10.93704661 % 3301 15 99.55 % 90 % 2,160.90164 BTSX 37344410243 delegate.bitsuperlab 10.85605587 % 2394 2 99.92 % 100 % 3,268.82911 BTSX 37332310323 btsx.chinesecommunity 10.85116130 % 3287 123 96.39 % 50 % 194.33625 BTSX 37340410287 mr.agsexplorer 10.83899255 % 3239 92 97.24 % 100 % 49.53830 BTSX 3734169879 delegate.xeroc 10.76160259 % 3279 131 96.16 % 100 % 899.77057 BTSX 3734201193 dele-puppy 10.69383611 % 3410 85 97.57 % 10 % 111.78069 BTSX 373389129 boombastic 10.62097325 % 3394 112 96.81 % 100 % 397.49887 BTSX 373434
Delegate's earnings is visible on the blockchain - type "info" on the command line.Spending varies but I doubt it is enough to pay expenses (in my case it isn't, on some VPS instances it could be).
I think some kind of public auditing mechanism for delegates should provide enough security.For example each delegate shares all his transactions with public audit node(s) and when a block is generated each audit node publishes statistics about how many unknown transactions were included and how much the block produced differs from anticipated block (if you know the version of the delegate and its transaction you should be able to predict what will be included in block).This way the delegate's cheating opportunities will be significantly lower and if that happen everyone will know.You just need to make sure audit nodes are really public and everyone can become such node connected to any delegate.Using this you might ignore delegate's identity as long as he does its job properly. (not to mention that in an extremely complex scenario a delegate could be constituted with multiple nodes sharing transactions, each node controlled by different entity and a block is produced only when all of them are in agreement). With such scenario you ignore any single entity in the block creation process...
If that happen delegates will change.It is possible to have anonymous delegates.