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Title: BitShares Mail
Post by: bluebit on October 22, 2014, 04:10:41 am
Client now supports encrypted BitShares mail operation (see: https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares_toolkit/wiki/BitShares-Mail)  +5%

Very cool, looking forward to the day I'll only be using Bitshares for all communication.
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: fuzzy on October 22, 2014, 05:44:36 am
 +5%
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: jsidhu on October 22, 2014, 05:45:21 am
just need gmail app now to connect to hangouts and integrate into the platform to increase ecosystem usability
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: arhag on October 22, 2014, 06:44:50 am
I have many questions.

How is this funded? Does the sender pay for each message? Is the payment by size of the message? How is spam prevented? I think I remember POW being recommended to reduce spam. Can we actually find a right balance that doesn't take too long for a legitimate user to solve the proof of work for their outgoing message (especially on a mobile device) but is still hard enough to stop dedicated spammers? Do the mail servers really have an obligation to hold all of these sent messages? What if they drop old messages? In that case, how would a lightweight client know it has received funds?
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: xeroc on October 22, 2014, 07:27:22 am
I will read through it today .. but from my understanding this would allow something merchants are dreaming of..

sending encrypted invoices to costumers, which they just have to agree by mouse click!
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: johncitizen on October 22, 2014, 07:35:15 am
Boom !

All this week only good news for BTS
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: darbon on October 22, 2014, 07:36:58 am
Fantastic! :)
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: kircha on October 22, 2014, 07:59:50 am
so cool!
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: jsidhu on October 22, 2014, 06:03:37 pm
Will this mail protocol essentially become the transaction gateway protocol as a cross-chain and even intra-chain communication layer? This way chains can check their "inbox" and recv, send things to other chains analogous to sending mail to people. I've read around that this was the way we were moving forward? Atleast it would be helpful for a layman to understand how communication in the blockchain amongst nodes is happening... it would greatly increase new user acceptance of the technology since they would begin to understand how it works.

The part that intrigues me is "the mail server (or an eavesdropper) does not know whether the mail is an email or transaction notification. The only information given by an encrypted message is the recipient address." This is what led me to write this question.

This would open up possibilities of hooking up to mail services today to enable "mail 2.0" services in which you would not only be able to send messages, but full transaction notifications like sendng/recvign/trading assets on the blockchain through a web service. If it's an email does the node relay it across  an actual mail server somewhere to send a conventional "email" (assuming they set the email address as the recipient, maybe this could be possible to bridge mail 1.0 and mail 2.0?

I could envision your "mail box" or google mail box service to be configured to access you're personal bts wallet (obviously it is secured) and thus enabling these features and your web wallet essentially becomes a mail in/out box for communication or basic transaction purposes.
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: CLains on October 22, 2014, 08:33:31 pm
 +5% +5%
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: oldman on October 22, 2014, 11:30:00 pm
I will read through it today .. but from my understanding this would allow something merchants are dreaming of..

sending encrypted invoices to costumers, which they just have to agree by mouse click!

Wow.
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: tonyk on October 23, 2014, 12:30:32 am
I will read through it today .. but from my understanding this would allow something merchants are dreaming of..

sending encrypted invoices to costumers, which they just have to agree by mouse click!

WOW you think they will make it do/be used for that?  +5%

I thought it is for some inside (blockchain related) communications only.
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: liondani on October 23, 2014, 12:42:35 am
Why is our market cap still at $50 millions  :P
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: tonyk on October 23, 2014, 12:44:55 am
Why is our market cap still at $50 millions  :P

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
The world does not know yet.
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: Stan on October 23, 2014, 12:52:31 am
Why is our market cap still at $50 millions  :P

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
The world does not know yet.

Please, please, please wait till payday...  just nine more days... shhhh.  :)
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: Stan on October 23, 2014, 01:00:45 am
Just part of incorporating everything we once envisioned for Keyhotee.

A complete e-commerce system with everything you need to live your e-life completely in Free Space.

Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: xeroc on October 23, 2014, 07:05:40 am
A complete e-commerce system with everything you need to live your e-life completely in Free Space.
lol .. we started with a wallet ... went over to a trading platform and are now going towards a e-commerce system ..
what's next?
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: muse-umum on October 23, 2014, 07:12:22 am
A complete e-commerce system with everything you need to live your e-life completely in Free Space.
lol .. we started with a wallet ... went over to a trading platform and are now going towards a e-commerce system ..
what's next?

Buy NASA, TO DA MOON ?


Anyway, anyone knows how to configure a mail server ?

Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: vlight on October 23, 2014, 10:53:03 am
Do these messages stay on the blockchain forever ?  ???
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: liondani on October 23, 2014, 11:04:11 am
Do these messages stay on the blockchain forever ?  ???
encrypted...
no fear!
Title: Re: BitShares Mail
Post by: xeroc on October 23, 2014, 11:23:16 am
Do these messages stay on the blockchain forever ?  ???
messages in the mail system ARE NOT stored in the blockchain!!!