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Title: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 14, 2015, 03:04:39 pm
I am proud to formally announce that work has begun on the first site to convert a bitasset to its physical form: cryptosmith.info


The goal of Cryptosmith is simple, leverage Bitsilver's pegging against is real world counterpart for physical redeem-ability. This will site will act as a exit ramp only and will serve to show every merchant out their what can be done with bitasset's. While our competitor's want to "help" you hold your precious metals at the cost of storage fees and added counter-party risk, our goal is to get your precious metals to you safely and quickly.

When a user visit's our site they can expect a pure and simple shopping experience. From your product selection, to the time your precious metal hits your door rest assured that you are in good hands. As such all packages are tracked, insured and signature confirmation is required.


At launch we are pleased to announce shipping to the following countries:
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Canada
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Hong Kong SAR China
Iceland
Ireland
Isle of Man
Israel
Japan
Luxembourg
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
Romania
Singapore
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Thailand
United Kingdom
United States
Vatican city


We would like to offer gold as well and are looking into it, for now I would like to leave it at that.

At Cryptosmith we proud to say we only accept bitasset's, no fiat, no Bitcoin, no Alts.

Stay tuned to this thread for updates as they come and remember to support https://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates/delegate?name=delegate.verbaltech (https://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates/delegate?name=delegate.verbaltech)
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: mdj on February 14, 2015, 03:14:09 pm
This is awesome :)
In the UK you have to pay 20% VAT on Silver purchases though :( How're you handling that?
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: edilliam on February 14, 2015, 03:16:41 pm
 +5% Good work Gentso1! 
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Troglodactyl on February 14, 2015, 03:17:08 pm
Awesome! Is this something you're personally building, or a business partnership you've been developing as a BitShares delegate?
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: matt608 on February 14, 2015, 03:23:31 pm
Great work! 
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: xeroc on February 14, 2015, 03:50:45 pm
wow .. awesome ..

@marketeers ... do what you are good at .. sell this shit!!
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: robrigo on February 14, 2015, 03:53:41 pm
Way to make things happen Gentso1!

Do you have any idea as to the obstacles there are to providing this service in South American counties? The land of silver could really use some bitSilver.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 14, 2015, 04:03:16 pm
This is awesome :)
In the UK you have to pay 20% VAT on Silver purchases though :( How're you handling that?

We have to respect the laws of every  location that we ship to, all package contents are noted with the shipper for tracking and insurance purposes.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 14, 2015, 04:03:34 pm
Awesome! Is this something you're personally building, or a business partnership you've been developing as a BitShares delegate?

Both :)
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 14, 2015, 04:07:53 pm
Way to make things happen Gentso1!

Do you have any idea as to the obstacles there are to providing this service in South American counties? The land of silver could really use some bitSilver.

I am finding that each country presents its own unique obstacles, with that being said we will support the above countries at launch and work to add as many as legally possible.
 
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: wesphily on February 14, 2015, 04:20:10 pm
This is awesome :)
In the UK you have to pay 20% VAT on Silver purchases though :( How're you handling that?

Easy: crypto is not considered a currency. It is considered property. You are not purchasing silver. Instead, you are bartering for it. Different rules apply.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Frodo on February 14, 2015, 04:24:13 pm
Very impressive. This is exactly the stuff we need. I wish you all the best of luck  :D
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Rune on February 14, 2015, 04:27:09 pm
Happy to see this getting started!

Hope we can have both bitgold and bitsilver fully liquid when the service launches.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 14, 2015, 04:32:56 pm
Happy to see this getting started!

Hope we can have both bitgold and bitsilver fully liquid when the service launches.

I think both of the services that we offer complement each other. I would go as far as to suggest, I want to see a silver Cryptohedge bot and you want to see a gold product offered by Cryptosmith. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on February 14, 2015, 04:44:04 pm
This is awesome!!  +5% +5% +5%

I think it's kinda ironic we got this going before we got something working for fiat.

Nonetheless.. with the bunker and our Bank of Canada vault that we plan to line with safety deposit boxes both for documents, valuables, and cold storage data, it is often suggested by some that it would be a great place for storage of gold and silver and other precious metals as well. You get the protection of a nuclear bunker, combined with a safe, and of course we would make the necessary legal work to ensure the utmost in trust and protection.

Not trying to hijack the thread or anything.. I think this is all awesome.. the subject of storage and where to send it was mentioned so I thought it might be worth it to get a sense of interest. In terms of fees.. we might be able to 'bundle' it somehow with data services from DSN or some other arrangement as well to save on that. Any feedback is appreciated. Otherwise.. how do you store it?

Regardless of my inquiry.. love this work.. good job!  +5%
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Bitcoinfan on February 14, 2015, 04:48:33 pm
Your site doesn't work?  When is launch btw?
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: fuzzy on February 14, 2015, 08:15:00 pm
Way to make things happen Gentso1!

Do you have any idea as to the obstacles there are to providing this service in South American counties? The land of silver could really use some bitSilver.

I am finding that each country presents its own unique obstacles, with that being said we will support the above countries at launch and work to add as many as legally possible.

Argentina.  We have already talked about how amazing this would be for Argentina.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: onceuponatime on February 14, 2015, 08:44:41 pm
Are all orders going to ship to all the countries available from the US, or will some orders ship from within the country where the shipment is to be delivered?
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: jsidhu on February 14, 2015, 11:17:02 pm
I will be working on this site and hook in the payment gateway and bitshares login.. will updte with the software requirements spec soon..
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: bitmarket on February 15, 2015, 05:50:24 am
Nice work Gentso.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 15, 2015, 01:27:45 pm
I will be working on this site and hook in the payment gateway and bitshares login.. will updte with the software requirements spec soon..

On that note I should introduce the lead developer on the project jsidhu. We have been in touch and talking for a few weeks now ironing out the details.

jsidhu is the developer that produced Demo(Prestashop with Bitshares Login): http://www.bitsharesdemo.com/presta/ (http://www.bitsharesdemo.com/presta/)
Src: https://github.com/sidhujag/bitshares-prestashop/ (https://github.com/sidhujag/bitshares-prestashop/)
Src: https://github.com/sidhujag/bitshares-prestashop-login/ (https://github.com/sidhujag/bitshares-prestashop-login/)

I would encourage people to give them a shot, to get a feel for the shopping experience we will offer.  These are demo carts and no money is actually exchanged.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 15, 2015, 01:29:29 pm
Your site doesn't work?  When is launch btw?

Its under construction, time table should be about 2 months to complete. check back here for regular updates
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 15, 2015, 01:32:32 pm
Are all orders going to ship to all the countries available from the US, or will some orders ship from within the country where the shipment is to be delivered?

On launch date all orders will ship from the US. We are actively seeking local partner's in other countries service customers better.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 15, 2015, 01:34:01 pm
This is awesome!!  +5% +5% +5%

I think it's kinda ironic we got this going before we got something working for fiat.

Nonetheless.. with the bunker and our Bank of Canada vault that we plan to line with safety deposit boxes both for documents, valuables, and cold storage data, it is often suggested by some that it would be a great place for storage of gold and silver and other precious metals as well. You get the protection of a nuclear bunker, combined with a safe, and of course we would make the necessary legal work to ensure the utmost in trust and protection.

Not trying to hijack the thread or anything.. I think this is all awesome.. the subject of storage and where to send it was mentioned so I thought it might be worth it to get a sense of interest. In terms of fees.. we might be able to 'bundle' it somehow with data services from DSN or some other arrangement as well to save on that. Any feedback is appreciated. Otherwise.. how do you store it?

Regardless of my inquiry.. love this work.. good job!  +5%

Thanks, we should talk more. I am very excited about the bunker and would like to offer a gold storage feature if customer's were interested in that option.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 15, 2015, 01:40:12 pm
Nice work Gentso.

Thanks. The idea is to make this one project on a long list of Bitshares goals.


If anyone likes the work that is being done I would suggest showing your support to the developers working on the projects and the people making the connections happen.

Vote https://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates/delegate?name=delegate.verbaltech (https://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates/delegate?name=delegate.verbaltech) , no secrete sauce included
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on February 15, 2015, 02:59:56 pm
This is awesome!!  +5% +5% +5%

I think it's kinda ironic we got this going before we got something working for fiat.

Nonetheless.. with the bunker and our Bank of Canada vault that we plan to line with safety deposit boxes both for documents, valuables, and cold storage data, it is often suggested by some that it would be a great place for storage of gold and silver and other precious metals as well. You get the protection of a nuclear bunker, combined with a safe, and of course we would make the necessary legal work to ensure the utmost in trust and protection.

Not trying to hijack the thread or anything.. I think this is all awesome.. the subject of storage and where to send it was mentioned so I thought it might be worth it to get a sense of interest. In terms of fees.. we might be able to 'bundle' it somehow with data services from DSN or some other arrangement as well to save on that. Any feedback is appreciated. Otherwise.. how do you store it?

Regardless of my inquiry.. love this work.. good job!  +5%

Thanks, we should talk more. I am very excited about the bunker and would like to offer a gold storage feature if customer's were interested in that option.

Sounds good to me. I will have to include this in the list of potential operations.  +5%
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 20, 2015, 02:08:52 pm
Quick update, site development is coming along nicely with the cart basically in place

Bitassets have also been added as payment options.

http://cryptosmith.info/ (http://cryptosmith.info/)

We are looking for someone to work on the graphics to speed progress along. Anyone interested should send me and pm along with samples of work they have done in the past.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: emailtooaj on February 20, 2015, 02:25:11 pm
 +5%
Way to Go Gentso!
Curious question, obviously you'll be reaching out to anyone and everyone who buys silver in the regular market, so whats your plan/idea to get them to use bitSilver for payment for the products sold on the website?
Do they need to go the traditional wallet route, or is it planned to use a Lite Wallet/Shapeshift.io.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 20, 2015, 02:29:24 pm
+5%
Way to Go Gentso!
Curious question, obviously you'll be reaching out to anyone and everyone who buys silver in the regular market, so whats your plan/idea to get them to use bitSilver for payment for the products sold on the website?
Do they need to go the traditional wallet route, or is it planned to use a Lite Wallet/Shapeshift.io.

We would accept Bitsilver directly.

No need for SS or any other exchange.


The products show on the site right now are for demo and testing only and will be replaced with precious metals.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: emailtooaj on February 20, 2015, 02:45:39 pm
True, I guess I should ask in another way.
How could someone that would like to buy silver off the site, but don't currently use or have access to bitSilver (aka they have no clue about BitShares), be able to acquire bitSilver to purchase the product?
Are you planning to funnel those people to the BitShares wallet download for them to be able to pay via bitSilver?
I hope I'm making sense LOL. I'm at work and need to type quickly, busy day here.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: cass on February 20, 2015, 04:21:35 pm
(https://bitshares.org/labs/cassified.png)


 +5%
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 20, 2015, 07:47:47 pm
True, I guess I should ask in another way.
How could someone that would like to buy silver off the site, but don't currently use or have access to bitSilver (aka they have no clue about BitShares), be able to acquire bitSilver to purchase the product?
Are you planning to funnel those people to the BitShares wallet download for them to be able to pay via bitSilver?
I hope I'm making sense LOL. I'm at work and need to type quickly, busy day here.

The site has 2 goals in mind.

1. Sell precious metals globally using bit assets as the ONLY forms of accepted payment.
2. Act as a funnel driving people to the Bitshares main site so that they can learn about the advantages of Bitshares.

 
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: donkeypong on February 20, 2015, 10:34:51 pm
This is great. It's a thankless job, because you'll have to keep margins low, and it will pay off only when you are doing some volume. Can you have the metals drop-shipped by a wholesaler or do you have to box up Eagles in your garage? Either way, I'm sure we all appreciate your work.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 21, 2015, 12:21:17 am
This is great. It's a thankless job, because you'll have to keep margins low, and it will pay off only when you are doing some volume. Can you have the metals drop-shipped by a wholesaler or do you have to box up Eagles in your garage? Either way, I'm sure we all appreciate your work.

Thanks.

The metal will be drop-shipped by our partner. Professionally packaged, tracked and insured.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on February 21, 2015, 10:14:30 am
Really cool, congrats
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Riverhead on February 21, 2015, 10:50:28 am

Fantastic work. It's great to see this moving forward out of concept and into construction.

Will the Bitshares login support the light client?
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: mf-tzo on February 21, 2015, 10:55:40 am
wow.. +5% +5% +5%....
how the f.. did I miss that? And I am here everyday..You guys need to pump this all over the forums, coindesk,redit,bitcoin forums everywhere...

Once you add Greece on your list the wife is going to buy some of your nice clothes.. :)
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: ubits on February 21, 2015, 01:03:37 pm
wow.. +5% +5% +5%....
how the f.. did I miss that? And I am here everyday..You guys need to pump this all over the forums, coindesk,redit,bitcoin forums everywhere...

Once you add Greece on your list the wife is going to buy some of your nice clothes.. :)

Agreed  +5%
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 21, 2015, 01:11:23 pm
wow.. +5% +5% +5%....
how the f.. did I miss that? And I am here everyday..You guys need to pump this all over the forums, coindesk,redit,bitcoin forums everywhere...

Once you add Greece on your list the wife is going to buy some of your nice clothes.. :)

lol please remember the clothes are only for testing purposes and will be brought down but rumor has it that precious metals make great gifts and are sure to win over any recipient.
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 21, 2015, 01:24:59 pm
Really cool, congrats

Thank you your support is great, keep up the good work on your videos

wow.. +5% +5% +5%....
how the f.. did I miss that? And I am here everyday..You guys need to pump this all over the forums, coindesk,redit,bitcoin forums everywhere...

Agreed  +5%

Once we have launched I will began announcing this on a larger scale, to promote the site and Bitshares as a whole. We want to test the site within the community and make sure the user experience is up to par before promoting it

to new users. This will allow everyone to see the best of what Bitshares has to offer.


Remeber if you like what you are seeing please support https://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates/delegate?name=delegate.verbaltech (https://bitsharesblocks.com/delegates/delegate?name=delegate.verbaltech) your support is the foundation of not only cryptosmith.info (http://cryptosmith.info) 's success but allows us to

continue other  projects that we have in the works, thank you
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: ubits on February 21, 2015, 01:29:13 pm
voted, keep up the good work
Title: Re: Cryptosmith: BitSilver to silver website construction has begun!!!
Post by: Gentso1 on February 22, 2015, 01:46:36 pm

Fantastic work. It's great to see this moving forward out of concept and into construction.

Will the Bitshares login support the light client?

The feedback I am getting from the web dev is yes