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Title: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: wuyanren on June 13, 2015, 04:07:45 pm
He was advised to merge him into BTS.Ethereum 。There are a lot of programmers.Hope BM talks about it.
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: xeroc on June 13, 2015, 04:11:53 pm
You have a link?
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: wuyanren on June 13, 2015, 04:14:11 pm
Co - win is a good start
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: Musewhale on June 13, 2015, 04:17:28 pm
 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: btswildpig on June 13, 2015, 04:18:44 pm
wuyanren is back
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: Permie on June 13, 2015, 04:22:22 pm
He was advised to merge him into BTS.Ethereum 。There are a lot of programmers.Hope BM talks about it.
So you're saying that Ethereum has hit a big problem of some kind and they are considering moving to BTS?
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: wuyanren on June 13, 2015, 04:23:16 pm
No, it is recommended that BM go to negotiations with that and strive for consolidation.
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: btswildpig on June 13, 2015, 04:28:29 pm
wuyanren's english keeps getting better...........

protect your sanity ...... here comes the famous wuyanren
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: wuyanren on June 13, 2015, 04:29:37 pm
wuyanren's english keeps getting better...........
Oh, my darling, I think you should also go to the proposal.
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: BTSdac on June 13, 2015, 04:30:30 pm
No, it is recommended that BM go to negotiations with that and strive for consolidation.
wuyanren is out of temper
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: wuyanren on June 13, 2015, 04:32:04 pm
楼上的,你不能说中文吗?
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: btswildpig on June 13, 2015, 04:33:16 pm
wuyanren brings a lot of joy
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: karnal on June 13, 2015, 04:36:51 pm
wuyanren is back

:D
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: xeroc on June 13, 2015, 04:43:38 pm
I still dont see proof of the claim in the subject of the thr OP?!
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: wuyanren on June 13, 2015, 05:04:29 pm
ETH and BTS merge is the only way out
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: karnal on June 13, 2015, 05:11:10 pm
ETH and BTS merge is the only way out

/thread
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: yellowecho on June 13, 2015, 05:18:17 pm
What's wrong with the Ethereum network?


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Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: wuyanren on June 13, 2015, 05:21:20 pm
What's wrong with the Ethereum network?


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What eth does is almost consistent with BTS, and it's a shame to repeat labor.
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: yellowecho on June 13, 2015, 05:26:06 pm
I disagree. Ethereum is great for long, one-off smart contracts while BitShares excels at speed and contracts build in at a protocol level.  The two might be complementary but IMO BitShares can get scripting an achieve what Ethereum is doing easier than Ethereum can mimic BitShares.


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Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: cass on June 13, 2015, 06:14:31 pm
proof of your claim .. ?
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: sittingduck on June 13, 2015, 06:23:30 pm
I know an ether dev who says it is far to expensive in terms of gas to do anything of the scale of bts


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Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: fuzzy on June 13, 2015, 06:36:35 pm
proof of your claim .. ?

I want proof of anything so I know exactly what this thread is supposed to be about and if it makes sense...

Can anyone help out on this?
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: toast on June 13, 2015, 06:39:23 pm
I know an ether dev who says it is far to expensive in terms of gas to do anything of the scale of bts

This, and this was always the point from the start. Ethereum will have dynamic interdependent contract systems which can do really complex things but which cost tangible money per operation. Asset transfer and market ops at scale will cost too much. Their POS plans are somewhat scalable but their max trx/sec is limited by CPU speed for crypto ops (not just signatures, sha3 used everywhere in compiled solidity)
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: fuzzy on June 13, 2015, 06:49:30 pm
I know an ether dev who says it is far to expensive in terms of gas to do anything of the scale of bts

This, and this was always the point from the start. Ethereum will have dynamic interdependent contract systems which can do really complex things but which cost tangible money per operation. Asset transfer and market ops at scale will cost too much. Their POS plans are somewhat scalable but their max trx/sec is limited by CPU speed for crypto ops (not just signatures, sha3 used everywhere in compiled solidity)

So this is the "problem" insinuated in the OP?

If so...this is not really any breaking "news"
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: toast on June 13, 2015, 06:53:38 pm
The "problem" is probably the fact that people are reaching bitchy impatient mode now like they did 5 months into BTS development
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: Permie on June 13, 2015, 06:59:31 pm
If it's important enough for BTS holders for the ethereum devs to join BitShares 2.0 could someone set a worker proposal for it?
Would it be possible to allocate money to specific person(s) who have yet to accept the offer?
It could be held in delegate-escrow indefinitely or until the persons concerned publicly collect the bounty.

Good thing a DAC can't get caged for corruption or bribery!
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on June 13, 2015, 07:11:18 pm
Sounds like the only problem is someone trying to play both sides of the fence because they took their money out of bitshares for etherium and now regret it.
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: fuzzy on June 13, 2015, 07:17:21 pm
The "problem" is probably the fact that people are reaching bitchy impatient mode now like they did 5 months into BTS development
Lol...so hard to argue against this^...though I'd probably state it differently, it sometimes is best to say it blatantly.
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: karnal on June 13, 2015, 07:28:06 pm
Sounds like the only problem is someone trying to play both sides of the fence because they took their money out of bitshares for etherium and now regret it.

Damn I'm beginning to see the allure in those soap operas.
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: Akado on June 13, 2015, 07:52:59 pm
He knows a guy, it must be legit.

Steal all the ethereum community
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: VoR0220 on June 15, 2015, 09:34:41 pm
I know an ether dev who says it is far to expensive in terms of gas to do anything of the scale of bts

This, and this was always the point from the start. Ethereum will have dynamic interdependent contract systems which can do really complex things but which cost tangible money per operation. Asset transfer and market ops at scale will cost too much. Their POS plans are somewhat scalable but their max trx/sec is limited by CPU speed for crypto ops (not just signatures, sha3 used everywhere in compiled solidity)

When you say limited by crypto ops, you mean the way they have set up their merkle roots limits the speed at which the virtual machine can compile instructions?
Title: Re: Ethereum Recently encountered no small problem
Post by: Musewhale on June 16, 2015, 11:16:30 am
+5%, great, good idea, i like it, just do it!