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Title: Everybody chill out
Post by: toast on March 17, 2014, 06:10:09 am
I3 *could* have released BTS X within 2 weeks or so with all features "ready". Then they would have "kept their word".

Maintaining "credibility" is possible but is a *worse option* than just pumping out 3 or 4 DACs real quick because they're at a point where it's possible now, even if it delays cash cow BTS X, especially since it makes it possible to release BTS X with much greater confidence




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Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: bodenliu on March 17, 2014, 06:57:07 am
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just pumping out 3 or 4 DACs real quick because they're at a point where it's possible now

alright. but where are they?
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: toast on March 17, 2014, 07:00:01 am
You can follow the WIP:

https://github.com/nmushegian/bitshares_toolkit/tree/master/libraries

Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: fuzzy on March 17, 2014, 09:09:25 am
I3 *could* have released BTS X within 2 weeks or so with all features "ready". Then they would have "kept their word".

Maintaining "credibility" is possible but is a *worse option* than just pumping out 3 or 4 DACs real quick because they're at a point where it's possible now, even if it delays cash cow BTS X, especially since it makes it possible to release BTS X with much greater confidence

(http://i.imgur.com/ERfdcz9.png)

Wait just one second...it sounds like you might have actual experience developing applications.  Thank you for making sense...

I would much rather see a solid finished product that actually adds long-term value as opposed to a product that rewards pump-and-dumpers who so love to destroy projects with their urge to get rich off the ecosystem and lay waste to its long-term value. 

Can't tell you how many times I would wait for a game to be finished (usually by Activision Blizzard products) and released, just to see the release date get pushed back 6 months at a time...multiple times!  But when the finished product comes out needing very little polish, the same people who bitched and complained about waiting, aching for that moment of release...finally got it and moaned in ecstacy (no sexual humor implied). 

It is much easier to change a critic's mind with a beautiful product released late than it is to change their minds about a project released too early with numerous bugs. 
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: adistman on March 17, 2014, 09:14:34 am
toast,  I believe that it is a good phenomenon, for you have so much players had joined in this game. whether they really believe in you guys, they are sit on the same boat with you, so it is a wonderful thing, just give them confidence and more benefit, they will be happy.
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: Ben Mason on March 17, 2014, 10:29:17 am
Well put - there is absolutely no rush.  Quality is everything. When Invictus DAC's land.....it will be like the sun coming up after nuclear winter.  No-one will remember the build up, because a vast, untapped, productive energy will be unleashed.
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: CLains on March 17, 2014, 11:49:36 am
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If fuznuts and I team up the Illuminati Crew (Ethereum), Ninja Turtles (NXT) and Monsters Inc. (Mastercoin) won't stand a chance.  8)
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: Stan on March 17, 2014, 02:45:06 pm
I3 *could* have released BTS X within 2 weeks or so with all features "ready". Then they would have "kept their word".

Maintaining "credibility" is possible but is a *worse option* than just pumping out 3 or 4 DACs real quick because they're at a point where it's possible now, even if it delays cash cow BTS X, especially since it makes it possible to release BTS X with much greater confidence

(http://i.imgur.com/ERfdcz9.png)

Wait just one second...it sounds like you might have actual experience developing applications.  Thank you for making sense...

I would much rather see a solid finished product that actually adds long-term value as opposed to a product that rewards pump-and-dumpers who so love to destroy projects with their urge to get rich off the ecosystem and lay waste to its long-term value. 

Can't tell you how many times I would wait for a game to be finished (usually by Activision Blizzard products) and released, just to see the release date get pushed back 6 months at a time...multiple times!  But when the finished product comes out needing very little polish, the same people who bitched and complained about waiting, aching for that moment of release...finally got it and moaned in ecstacy (no sexual humor implied). 

It is much easier to change a critic's mind with a beautiful product released late than it is to change their minds about a project released too early with numerous bugs.

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Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: Amazon on March 17, 2014, 03:01:49 pm

Wait just one second...it sounds like you might have actual experience developing applications.  Thank you for making sense...

I would much rather see a solid finished product that actually adds long-term value as opposed to a product that rewards pump-and-dumpers who so love to destroy projects with their urge to get rich off the ecosystem and lay waste to its long-term value. 

Can't tell you how many times I would wait for a game to be finished (usually by Activision Blizzard products) and released, just to see the release date get pushed back 6 months at a time...multiple times!  But when the finished product comes out needing very little polish, the same people who bitched and complained about waiting, aching for that moment of release...finally got it and moaned in ecstacy (no sexual humor implied). 

It is much easier to change a critic's mind with a beautiful product released late than it is to change their minds about a project released too early with numerous bugs.

Totally agree, but Blizzard had several super successful products before they can afford to push the release date of new products later and later. If we can get at least one DAC out without numerous bugs, functional but not perfect, all the other DACs can be delayed. It can be X, ME or DNS, even Keyhotee. Community won't be happy about many concepts without product.

Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: bytemaster on March 17, 2014, 03:26:04 pm

Wait just one second...it sounds like you might have actual experience developing applications.  Thank you for making sense...

I would much rather see a solid finished product that actually adds long-term value as opposed to a product that rewards pump-and-dumpers who so love to destroy projects with their urge to get rich off the ecosystem and lay waste to its long-term value. 

Can't tell you how many times I would wait for a game to be finished (usually by Activision Blizzard products) and released, just to see the release date get pushed back 6 months at a time...multiple times!  But when the finished product comes out needing very little polish, the same people who bitched and complained about waiting, aching for that moment of release...finally got it and moaned in ecstacy (no sexual humor implied). 

It is much easier to change a critic's mind with a beautiful product released late than it is to change their minds about a project released too early with numerous bugs.

Totally agree, but Blizzard had several super successful products before they can afford to push the release date of new products later and later. If we can get at least one DAC out without numerous bugs, functional but not perfect, all the other DACs can be delayed. It can be X, ME or DNS, even Keyhotee. Community won't be happy about many concepts without product.

I agree... :) 
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: CWEvans on March 17, 2014, 04:22:25 pm
As long as no one starts posting 'BitShares Nukem Forever' jabs.

 ;)
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: BldSwtTrs on March 17, 2014, 05:26:55 pm
So when is the new ETA of Bitshares X now?
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: gnarl on March 19, 2014, 05:54:07 pm
As long as no one starts posting 'BitShares Nukem Forever' jabs.

 ;)
Its coming...
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Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: bytemaster on March 19, 2014, 05:54:53 pm
As long as no one starts posting 'BitShares Nukem Forever' jabs.

 ;)
Its coming...
(http://i.imgur.com/Dy2UaC2.png)

LOL yes... but I think you just started it... too late now.
Title: Re: Everybody chill out
Post by: unimercio on March 19, 2014, 10:29:04 pm

Wait just one second...it sounds like you might have actual experience developing applications.  Thank you for making sense...

I would much rather see a solid finished product that actually adds long-term value as opposed to a product that rewards pump-and-dumpers who so love to destroy projects with their urge to get rich off the ecosystem and lay waste to its long-term value. 

Can't tell you how many times I would wait for a game to be finished (usually by Activision Blizzard products) and released, just to see the release date get pushed back 6 months at a time...multiple times!  But when the finished product comes out needing very little polish, the same people who bitched and complained about waiting, aching for that moment of release...finally got it and moaned in ecstacy (no sexual humor implied). 

It is much easier to change a critic's mind with a beautiful product released late than it is to change their minds about a project released too early with numerous bugs.

Totally agree, but Blizzard had several super successful products before they can afford to push the release date of new products later and later. If we can get at least one DAC out without numerous bugs, functional but not perfect, all the other DACs can be delayed. It can be X, ME or DNS, even Keyhotee. Community won't be happy about many concepts without product.

I agree... :)

obewan, it take much courage to step down from high dive board while world watch, yes!  Greater feat to stay on ground, till ready to announce.

Seriously though, In my time at Dell, I watched master "Michael Dell" play the "Street" like a fine violin by using the "whisper number" to his advantage.
His secret was simple, "always beat the streets expectations". Doing so, his investor were handsomely rewarded with countless stock splits.

Dan, we love you, we trust you and we're here to help. Take your time, pick a winner and slam it out of the park. No hurries and no worries.