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Title: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Empirical1 on July 03, 2014, 04:06:32 am
There is another thread asking about the initial XTS price but with the change of units, I thought the market CAP would be simpler as well as a poll.
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Markus on July 03, 2014, 12:57:50 pm
that's 10-20 million Bitcoin, right?  ;)
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: gyhy on July 03, 2014, 01:05:53 pm
80,000,000usd
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Simeon II on July 03, 2014, 01:28:48 pm
 Thanks, for putting my prediction as a choice in your poll  ;D
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Empirical1 on July 03, 2014, 02:53:08 pm
Thanks, for putting my prediction as a choice in your poll  ;D

 +5%

I bet if I put $2-10 million, you may even have chose that   ;D
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: yellowecho on July 03, 2014, 10:42:57 pm
When the exchange goes live, I'm shorting that bitUSD like nobody's business  ;)
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: biophil on July 04, 2014, 02:25:25 pm
When the exchange goes live, I'm shorting that bitUSD like nobody's business  ;)

I expect a lot of people will do that because they're forgetting that shorting bitUSD isn't shorting USD unless the peg is valid. So when you and everybody else short bitUSD, you'll cause the price of bitUSD to plummet far below the price of USD, and I will buy your cheap bitUSD like it's going out of style. The bitshares community will hail me as a hero for trading in support of the USD/bitUSD peg. :)

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Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: NewMine on July 04, 2014, 04:08:37 pm
Since I am not really sure what the hell XT is, I am going to say way less than the smallest option. If we are talking about the Bank & Exchange, I would guess around $20 million after a few months with some extreme volatility throughout the beginning.
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: cygnify on July 04, 2014, 10:47:34 pm
Since I am not really sure what the hell XT is, I am going to say way less than the smallest option. If we are talking about the Bank & Exchange, I would guess around $20 million after a few months with some extreme volatility throughout the beginning.

I hope it has been decided that they drop the XT name and just call it X. Obviously it won't be launched fully featured, but I see absolutely no advantage in having the T there except for confusing people even more on what is not trivial stuff to begin with.
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: toast on July 04, 2014, 11:31:43 pm
Since I am not really sure what the hell XT is, I am going to say way less than the smallest option. If we are talking about the Bank & Exchange, I would guess around $20 million after a few months with some extreme volatility throughout the beginning.

I hope it has been decided that they drop the XT name and just call it X. Obviously it won't be launched fully featured, but I see absolutely no advantage in having the T there except for confusing people even more on what is not trivial stuff to begin with.

Yep we're dropping the T

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Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: sfinder on July 05, 2014, 12:30:43 am
when? any specific date and time


Yep we're dropping the T

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Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: toast on July 05, 2014, 01:12:37 am
when? any specific date and time


Yep we're dropping the T

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Right from launch... calling it "X" even before market functionality
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Simeon II on July 05, 2014, 01:40:17 am

Yep we're dropping the T

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That’s why insider trading is illegal.

Having this info 36h ago, would have saved me 10s of thousands of USD.

I just wonder if the other party new???


Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: toast on July 05, 2014, 01:42:29 am

Yep we're dropping the T

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That’s why insider trading is illegal.

Having this info 36h ago, would have saved me 10s of thousands of USD.

I just wonder if the other party new???

??? It's a name change... the technology is *exactly* the same. Would it cost you 10s of thousands of we called it "BitShares Exchange"?

edit: Maybe I was unclear earlier, I just meant we are not calling the un-upgraded chain "XT" because it confuses too many people. It would still be "X, without the exchange, until we upgrade it".
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: clout on July 05, 2014, 02:04:13 am

Yep we're dropping the T

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That’s why insider trading is illegal.

Having this info 36h ago, would have saved me 10s of thousands of USD.

I just wonder if the other party new???


This was all public information. There would be no difference in the price if they launched as "XT" vs "X." The "T", for test, would eventually come off as the marketcap surpassed $1 billion or so. The first chain is how you get a preallocation in future bitshares x banks


toast edit: formatting
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Simeon II on July 05, 2014, 02:41:46 am

Yep we're dropping the T

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That’s why insider trading is illegal.

Having this info 36h ago, would have saved me 10s of thousands of USD.

I just wonder if the other party new???


This was all public information. There would be no difference in the price if they launched as "XT" vs "X." The "T", for test, would eventually come off as the marketcap surpassed $1 billion or so. The first chain is how you get a preallocation in future bitshares x banks


toast edit: formatting

The public information was that it would XT, T standing for ‘test’; And nothing to test, really… except if DPOS can handle 1000 transaction per day…
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: toast on July 05, 2014, 02:44:44 am
Yes, it is still "XT" for "test" except we will just remove the letter "T" from the UI.
Just changing the name (to make it less confusing for when we upgrade).

Before: XT --- upgrade --- > X
Now:    X ---- upgrade ----> X
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Empirical1 on July 05, 2014, 02:47:39 am

Yep we're dropping the T

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That’s why insider trading is illegal.

Having this info 36h ago, would have saved me 10s of thousands of USD.

I just wonder if the other party new???


This was all public information. There would be no difference in the price if they launched as "XT" vs "X." The "T", for test, would eventually come off as the marketcap surpassed $1 billion or so. The first chain is how you get a preallocation in future bitshares x banks


toast edit: formatting

The public information was that it would XT, T standing for ‘test’; And nothing to test, really… except if DPOS can handle 1000 transaction per day…

It is still the same limited test chain.
But it is the chain all future X chains are reccommended to honour 100% around their launch.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2940.0

So it makes sense to call it just X. Good name change.

Edit: I said X is the chain all future X chains should honour at launch.
But I think it's more like the XI model will honour X 100% at launch, but then any variants that required new chains of the XI model would honour XI at launch.

It amounts to the same thing. But my wording is wrong then.

Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: Simeon II on July 05, 2014, 03:30:20 am

There is little point in arguing here.

At the end of the day, you will do whatever you decide to do.

I can find and post the threads/posts that people asked you to skip XT as it is pointless. On which you said that you will do it anyway, just because you feel like it. And those comments were the only public knowledge before dropping the bomb that you suddenly have sobered up.
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: toast on July 05, 2014, 03:31:49 am

There is little point in arguing here.

At the end of the day, you will do whatever you decide to do.

I can find and post the threads/posts that people asked you to skip XT as it is pointless. On which you said that you will do it anyway, just because you feel like it. And those comments were the only public knowledge before dropping the bomb that you suddenly have sobered up.


I still think you don't get it... We're not "skipping XT", we're just not calling it XT.
Skipping XT would be not releasing until X is fully-functional. We are not doing that.
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: solaaire on July 05, 2014, 06:52:20 pm
thanks for the clarification toast, i think dropping the T is a great idea




also big shout to the dev team for working on the 4th - that's dedication
Title: Re: BitShares XT Market Cap one week after launch?
Post by: xeroc on July 05, 2014, 06:56:55 pm
+5% for X .. without T