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Title: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: FBI on August 29, 2014, 02:03:23 pm
After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye. 
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: xeroc on August 29, 2014, 02:08:08 pm
LoL... take your FUD and just leave ...

This is not bitcoin
This is not a 5 year old wallet
This has a new blockchain tech
New network code
New gui
New market
TITAN

you have absolutly no idea whar i3 and tge devs have achieve in recent months ..
Just sh*** the f*** up and take your FUD with you!
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: GaltReport on August 29, 2014, 02:08:18 pm
Sorry to see you leave but many of us were able to get it synched, a bit slowly for sure but it did synch and I am using it.  I recommend leaving it sit alone and not touch it while it, possibly slowly, synchs.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: GaltReport on August 29, 2014, 02:09:00 pm
LoL... take your FUD and just leave ...

This is not bitcoin
This is not a 5 year old wallet
This has a new blockchain tech
New network code
New gui
New market
TITAN

you have absolutly no idea whar i3 and tge devs have achieve in recent months ..
Just sh*** the f*** up and take your FUD with you!

Or that too! LOL
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: kokojie on August 29, 2014, 02:12:15 pm
That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork + nasty transaction malleability bug, 4 YEARS after release.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: G1ng3rBr34dM4n on August 29, 2014, 02:14:06 pm
That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork 4 YEARS after release.

 +5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: maqifrnswa on August 29, 2014, 02:14:36 pm
That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork 4 YEARS after release.

This, but maybe it should be advertised more clearly that this is still "beta" or "alpha" software? The gui  (and windows client) is still secondary in importance to an operating network and market infrastructure.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: bytemaster on August 29, 2014, 02:15:06 pm
DAC Sun Limited took our beta toolkit and released it as early as humanly possible.  As a result it crashes and hasn't been throughly tested.

That said, BTSX is up and trading and once it stabilizes then the price will start to rise again. 

I for one am relieved that the price has fallen because the code is not ready for those higher valuations. 
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: Riverhead on August 29, 2014, 02:19:51 pm
That's why it's called 0.4.9, not 1.x.x, the version number means it's alpha software. This has only released for 2 months, do you think Bitcoin was problem free 2 months after release? Bitcoin still had a messy accidental hard fork 4 YEARS after release.

This, but maybe it should be advertised more clearly that this is still "beta" or "alpha" software? The gui  (and windows client) is still secondary in importance to an operating network and market infrastructure.


I agree with this. It should state on the DAC Sun Limited website that this is Alpha or Beta software in public testing phase. I know this and am happy to wade through the issues to make the software better. A new user seeing some of our marketing expecting a 1.x release version may be discouraged. Perhaps not as dramatic as FBI but discouraged none the less.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: LiquidStorm on August 29, 2014, 02:22:58 pm
It did crash a few times but that is expected i have now fixed the issues downloading the latest release and running smooth as butter now

Its not easy creating a new banking network infrastructure 

Amazing job so far what you have done in so little time

I have faith in the price of bitsharesX i know Bitcoin started at less than 1cent.

The tech is more exciting then the $ IMO so i give the devs  +5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: cass on August 29, 2014, 02:28:58 pm
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7823.15

keep calm and read... if you don't want to help beta testing, just leave at it is .. and join when bugs/issues are fixed (but if all users would thinking like this.. how we should get a successful beta testing phase))... it's a beta version ...and there will be more issues in future to solve...sry to hear you leave ... if you'll be a bit more patient ... i promise you'll happy then :)

Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: CalabiYau on August 29, 2014, 02:33:46 pm
After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

Sorry to see you so impatient, saw tons of posts like this since the early days of bitcoin. That we have today a system that is still buggy but working is a fantastic outcome. I3 has delivered and honored my investment. I am very confident regarding the future of this venture. 
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: biophil on August 29, 2014, 02:36:18 pm
Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: cass on August 29, 2014, 02:36:41 pm
Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...

 ;D  +5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: kokojie on August 29, 2014, 02:37:50 pm
Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...

haha  +5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: CLains on August 29, 2014, 02:41:26 pm
This guy turning red angry means green light to buy again.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: vegolino on August 29, 2014, 02:51:52 pm
I disagree with FBI  and would like to say BIG THANK YOU  to all dev. team.   +5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: leon on August 29, 2014, 05:30:15 pm
Fantastic job you guys are doing !!Keep going  :) :) :) +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: oldman on August 29, 2014, 07:26:11 pm
After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: JakeThePanda on August 29, 2014, 07:32:39 pm
DAC Sun Limited took our beta toolkit and released it as early as humanly possible.  As a result it crashes and hasn't been throughly tested.

That said, BTSX is up and trading and once it stabilizes then the price will start to rise again. 

I for one am relieved that the price has fallen because the code is not ready for those higher valuations.

Bytemaster, what the hell is wrong with you?  Anyone with half a brain can code up a bug free decentralized bank in their spare time.  ;)
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: jae208 on August 29, 2014, 07:39:02 pm
Sorry to see you leave. FYI even at current prices I have 2 times ROI so I'm not upset :)
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 29, 2014, 07:42:58 pm
After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

I agree, the OP was giving valid criticism and it should be considered not dismissed. We gained a lot of users the past week or so with the huge run up in price and launch of bitassets, and the attention that both of those things brought Bitshares. When people's first impression is that of bug riddled software, that is not a good first impression to make. First impressions are very important.

I hope that all the Bitshares team has put other DACs aside and are working on fixing bugs rather than fixing bitassets or working on new DACs. If the first Bitshares project is a bust, then the remaining projects are likely to be a bust as well. The success of BitsharesX is paramount to the success of the Bitshares brand.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: Empirical1 on August 29, 2014, 07:43:35 pm
After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

 +5% I was surprised at the 'shut the f*** up' reply.

I think BitAssets are amazing. I think I can count the people I trust on one hand, yet I can honestly say I have 100% trust in BM to act with integrity and for a poker player that's saying a lot. I also believe he and the team can adapt and evolve as necessary. Basically I believe 'If BM is for us, who can be against us?' :) 

However a lot of people have just been exposed to BitAssets, BitShares and the team behind it for the first time in the last few weeks and perhaps it wasn't marketed as beta as clearly as it should have been and was short term oversold relative to where it was imo.  So I empathize with them especially as a non technical user.

My only disappointment though is I didn't sell a bit high so I could buy even more low...
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: JakeThePanda on August 29, 2014, 07:48:32 pm
After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

 +5% I was surprised at the 'shut the f*** up' reply.

I think BitAssets are amazing. I think I can count the people I trust on one hand, yet I can honestly say I have 100% trust in BM to act with integrity and for a poker player that's saying a lot. I also believe he and the team can adapt and evolve as necessary. Basically I believe 'If BM is for us, who can be against us?' :) 

However a lot of people have just been exposed to BitAssets, BitShares and the team behind it for the first time in the last few weeks and perhaps it wasn't marketed as beta as clearly as it should have been and was short term oversold relative to where it was imo.  So I empathize with them especially as a non technical user.

My only disappointment though is I didn't sell a bit high so I could buy even more low...

The OP registered in January.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: Empirical1 on August 29, 2014, 07:52:07 pm
After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

 +5% I was surprised at the 'shut the f*** up' reply.

I think BitAssets are amazing. I think I can count the people I trust on one hand, yet I can honestly say I have 100% trust in BM to act with integrity and for a poker player that's saying a lot. I also believe he and the team can adapt and evolve as necessary. Basically I believe 'If BM is for us, who can be against us?' :) 

However a lot of people have just been exposed to BitAssets, BitShares and the team behind it for the first time in the last few weeks and perhaps it wasn't marketed as beta as clearly as it should have been and was short term oversold relative to where it was imo.  So I empathize with them especially as a non technical user.

My only disappointment though is I didn't sell a bit high so I could buy even more low...

The OP registered in January.

That's a fair point... :)

Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: chryspano on August 29, 2014, 08:07:42 pm
How many people have we heard saying that they were unlucky not to learn about bitcoin at its early days when it was still cheap to buy? we now know what most of them would do, absolutely NOTHING! I would like too to buy bitcoins with the features and stability it has today at the price it had 2-3 years ago but guess what... this isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: Riverhead on August 29, 2014, 08:22:29 pm
How many people have we heard saying that they were unlucky not to learn about bitcoin at its early days when it was still cheap to buy? we now know what most of them would do, absolutely NOTHING! I would like too to buy bitcoins with the features and stability it has today at the price it had 2-3 years ago but guess what... this isn't going to happen.


 +5%  Well said.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: stuartcharles on August 29, 2014, 09:16:21 pm
How many people have we heard saying that they were unlucky not to learn about bitcoin at its early days when it was still cheap to buy? we now know what most of them would do, absolutely NOTHING! I would like too to buy bitcoins with the features and stability it has today at the price it had 2-3 years ago but guess what... this isn't going to happen.
+5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: CLains on August 29, 2014, 09:51:39 pm
This guy turning red angry means green light to buy again.

When the reverse HODLER sold the price rose as if on cue -
the only rule of trading is Murphy's law for your inner FBI.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: TurkeyLeg on August 30, 2014, 10:33:23 am

After downloaded 0.4.9a, no connection bug comes again, just like 0.4.9 and 0.4.8............From 0.1.0 to 0.4.9a, after tons of update, 3I could not even produce a stable WIN wallet that can connect to network, what a joke! I am very disappointed at the dev team. The drop of price tells everything.  Yes, there is some method to resolve it, but I am not a programmer or geek, nor I have time to play with it. I dump, I leave, byebye.

This is valuable feedback on user sentiment/experience and should not be taken lightly.

Yes, there is a core group here that understands the tech is beta and we are all amazed at how well the peg has held up.

But we cannot ignore that BTSX is in the wild, has climbed up the leader board and is now visible to a much wider audience.

These concerns have merit and we should be more sympathetic to users that are frustrated - they have cause to be.

So let's acknowledge rather than dismiss.

+5% while I agree with everyone regarding the alpha/beta nature of the client and the platform, and applaud all the hardwork and monumental achievements going on, I do also agree with you. The more open and sensitive we are to the folks on the 2nd floor (like myself) the more willing they will be to reconsider leaving and will go long on the tech.
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: liondani on August 30, 2014, 11:17:50 am
change your FUD "style" comment please.


PS I say "please" only the first time  ;)
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on August 30, 2014, 11:32:16 am
Not bad, we fooled the FBI into ignoring us...

Ha! Good one.  +5%
Title: Re: Good idea, but bad executor, BTSX is dying
Post by: Blahbleuhbleuh on August 30, 2014, 12:39:22 pm
It's extremely important for everybody downloading the wallet that everything works smoothly. We need all clients with the latest update to connect to the network and execute transactions. That's the bare minimum.

The dev team has everybody's support, they are doing a great job, these things happen, but the sooner we're up and running again, the better BTSX can make its case.