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General Discussion / Re: Angel Shares Feedback Requested
« on: December 15, 2013, 08:27:15 pm »
- Finally the meat - great discusion. I thank you one and all.
 The value of anything comes from thecollective opinion of all parties involved.
The value of III is in providing a fair, decentralized and transparent exchange of ideas, knowledge and a process to advance commerce.  Additional intities can grow by providing new products and services. New contracts with transparent rules can be excepted by new investors or not.
There is no need to outlaw anything. Make new contracts transparent, easy to understand and limited to the job at hand.  Any changes to existing contracts will not be excepted well. It sounds too much like the status Que.
The value comes from giving respect to all,  no premining, no classes of shares or no classes of people or no classes of $s.
$s are capital, something every business needs and after all $s are proof of work, a receipt for work, or at least that was the original story.
Fair, transparent, decentralized and equitable to the individual.
etalon-or


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General Discussion / Re: Getting Started buying bitshares
« on: December 11, 2013, 04:38:05 pm »
Thanks que23,
I am familiar with the sites you mention, but as you have seen, it is hit or miss. This was the point of my "concern" post. We need multiple market outlets and many more people. Maybe this is an idea for a DAC but first  more people need to be involved.
A half million shares were reported mined before the announcement of mining. Whats with that?
That came from somewhere on the internetwebthingy so not yet fact.
Final note is a Zerohedge piece about jpmorgan's patent of a new digital currency, (perhaps to be called a "Dimons") sic. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-10/chasing-bitcoin-jpm-preparing-unveil-its-own-electronic-currency.
I want to make Protoshares a go but I/we need more choices in markets.  Disappearing quotes and high spreads does not instill confidence.
I  hope this does not offend as I am only trying to start a discussion, hopefully benifiting everyones understanding.
The current financial state of the world was created with lies, corruption and privilege.
 “L’histoire se repete"   
etalon-or

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General Discussion / Re: Getting Started buying bitshares
« on: December 10, 2013, 08:10:35 pm »
I Just wanted to say hello and address some concerns. I can understand the value offered by these new ideas, Bitcoin, Protoshares, DACs. I wrote this originally on another tread with no replies so I thought I would try here;
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Re: One of these coins is not like the others
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 02:27:29 PM »
"Evan makes a good point, "there is a difference".  original post is from Dec 5,
 today I can't even find a quote for Protoshares. The point is there are many ppl that want to be part of  this idea but don't have coding abilities.
Hayek argued that the goal of Laissez-faire markets is the preservation of the unique information contained in the price itself. Laissez-faire principle expresses a preference for an absence of non-market pressures on prices and wages, such as those from government taxes, subsidies, tariffs, regulation , or government-granted or coercive monopolies.(today) Price and value is determined by the continuous decisions of many people as to what that value is at any given moment."
 Where is the market?  Continuous decisions are made from data. Markets participents need access to data and a consistant trading venue, many venues would be better. In this way more people can make a fair judgement of value. The more people involved is also a good thing and creates the foundation of trust and acceptance.  I want to buy Protoshares and support DACs. Where is the market?
etalon-or

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General Discussion / Re: One of these coins is not like the others
« on: December 09, 2013, 07:27:29 pm »
Evan makes a good point, "there is a difference". Your original post is from Dec 5, today I can't even find a quote for Protoshares. The point is there are many ppl that want to be part of  this idea but don't have coding abilities. I am new here and trying to add value to an idea that I believe in.
Hayek argued that the goal of Laissez-faire markets is the preservation of the unique information contained in the price itself. Laissez-faire principle expresses a preference for an absence of non-market pressures on prices and wages, such as those from government taxes, subsidies, tariffs, regulation , or government-granted or coercive monopolies.(today) Price and value is determined by the continuous decisions of many people as to what that value is at any given moment.
 Where is the market? I want to buy Protoshares and support DAC.
etalon-or
"When you live outside the law, you must be honest."Bob Dylan

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