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Title: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on September 28, 2014, 02:02:20 am
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-community-dev-hangout-2014-9-26

Beyond Bitcoin Community Dev Hangout -

0:00 show starts
4:35 Usually when you short there is a fee that is assessed upfront, why wait a month ?
5:20 Whats keeping someone from creating bots to create bots to cover and reshort ? Explain the monthly limit.
6:55 Talk of the bots that have been posted and released. How about a shorting bot ? How would it work ?
8:09 Will tweaks to bots be submitted to github ?
8:55 Another thing we are working on is a new transaction type says Bytemaster.
9:13 The other big event of the week is nubits.
12:14 Do you think there is a risk to Peercoin by Nubits ?
12:52 Lets highlight the difference in approaches between nubits vs the collateralization approach.
15:08 Dan points out how in fairness, Bitshares X has been called a ponzi scheme.
16:45 People were claiming nubits could fund development of peercoin and family, thoughts ?
21:03 How explaining things in the company metaphor helps in aiding the explanation of Bitshares X relative to other products.
23:40 Does Nubits hyper inflation after Nushare price ?
25:20 Joking talk about a BitNuBit and being able to short it.
26:00 Is it possible to make an API for outside exchanges ?
27:55 What is the relation between I3 and the developers of Music DAC ?
29:30 Discussion of changes made
30:52 Why would the social contract prohibit the previous mentioned improvement ? Discussion on the 2 camps in the community and their wishes. How about over-leveraging the system with catastrophic effects ?
40:55 Can we have a feature that allows shareholders to propose a poll on the blockchain to vote on ?
43:00 What about Dacsunlimited cloning Bitshares X into other coins to maximize value to Bitshares X holders ?
45:55 Regarding DDOS attacks, how does POW compare to DPOS in regards to resiliency to attacks ?
50:05 What role are the delegates who are not in top 101 and can be they be analyzed as easily ?
51:03 It is likely Bitcoin will switch to DPOS and what effect would it have on Bitshares ?
53:20 The market overview page in the GUI, are there plans to make it nicer looking ?
54:00 Daniel Larimer starts to departs but says one last thing.
55:10 Post show starts. Talk of Cob from Music DAC will be coming next week. Talk of his his new non-technical whitepaper and how impressive it is. bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9360.0
An open discussion largely about Music DAC. A viewer thinks the possibility might be larger than Bitshares X?
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: johncitizen on September 28, 2014, 03:10:47 am
Yes have been waiting for more on this!
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: bitmeat on September 28, 2014, 03:15:14 am
I'm listening... BM says that NBT is a ponzi and relies on bagholders. However, isn't that true for BitUSD as well?

Let's explore for a bit. Let's just say a new product comes out that people move to. So everyone starts selling their BTSX and at some point there are just no buyers willing to move from BTC to BTSX. Then holders of BitUSD are screwed, are they not?

I understand that this is may be a highly unlikely scenario, but the bottom line is that there is nothing to ensure BitUSD can be converted to BTC or USD. In other words, if there is a run on the "decentralized bank" it can still collapse, there are no guarantees. Be it NuBits, BTSX or whatever.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: matt608 on September 28, 2014, 10:04:32 am
Good stuff!
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: bitcoinerS on September 28, 2014, 12:26:21 pm
I wish there was less background noise and random laughter while bytemaster speaks.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: Riverhead on September 28, 2014, 12:38:21 pm
Let's explore for a bit. Let's just say a new product comes out that people move to. So everyone starts selling their BTSX and at some point there are just no buyers willing to move from BTC to BTSX. Then holders of BitUSD are screwed, are they not?

Any interesting question. Most of the bitUSD would get destroyed as covers were forced using the collateral backing them. However what would happen if I had 50 bitUSD in my wallet and was out backpacking in the mountains for a month when the BTSX crash happens. The market couldn't cover those 50 bitUSD and the existing collateral backing them is way too little.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on September 29, 2014, 10:56:17 am
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-community-dev-hangout-2014-9-26

I haven't done any annotations yet.  Was too much to do in one pass since I wasn't around to listen to it live.

Weekday showing up in the office bump.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on September 30, 2014, 06:26:28 pm
Daytime bump with new annotations

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-community-dev-hangout-2014-9-26

Beyond Bitcoin Community Dev Hangout -

0:00 show starts
4:35 Usually when you short there is a fee that is assessed upfront, why wait a month ?
5:20 Whats keeping someone from creating bots to create bots to cover and reshort ? Explain the monthly limit.
6:55 Talk of the bots that have been posted and released. How about a shorting bot ? How would it work ?
8:09 Will tweaks to bots be submitted to github ?
8:55 Another thing we are working on is a new transaction type says Bytemaster.
9:13 The other big event of the week is nubits.
12:14 Do you think there is a risk to Peercoin by Nubits ?
12:52 Lets highlight the difference in approaches between nubits vs the collateralization approach.
15:08 Dan points out how in fairness, Bitshares X has been called a ponzi scheme.
16:45 People were claiming nubits could fund development of peercoin and family, thoughts ?
21:03 How explaining things in the company metaphor helps in aiding the explanation of Bitshares X relative to other products.
23:40 Does Nubits hyper inflation affect Nushare price ?
25:20 Joking talk about a BitNuBit and being able to short it.
26:00 Is it possible to make an API for outside exchanges ?
27:55 What is the relation between I3 and the developers of Music DAC ?
29:30 Discussion of changes made
30:52 Why would the social contract prohibit the previous mentioned improvement ? Discussion on the 2 camps in the community and their wishes. How about over-leveraging the system with catastrophic effects ?
40:55 Can we have a feature that allows shareholders to propose a poll on the blockchain to vote on ?
43:00 What about Dacsunlimited cloning Bitshares X into other coins to maximize value to Bitshares X holders ?
45:55 Regarding DDOS attacks, how does POW compare to DPOS in regards to resiliency to attacks ?
50:05 What role are the delegates who are not in top 101 and can be they be analyzed as easily ?
51:03 It is likely Bitcoin will switch to DPOS and what effect would it have on Bitshares ?
53:20 The market overview page in the GUI, are there plans to make it nicer looking ?
54:00 Daniel Larimer starts to departs but says one last thing.
55:10 Post show starts. Talk of Cob from Music DAC will be coming next week. Talk of his his new non-technical whitepaper and how impressive it is. bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9360.0
An open discussion largely about Music DAC. A viewer thinks the possibility might be larger than Bitshares X?
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on October 01, 2014, 07:37:53 pm
Another daytime bump.  This is the best place to learn about changes etc.

Daytime bump with new annotations

https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/beyond-bitcoin-community-dev-hangout-2014-9-26

Beyond Bitcoin Community Dev Hangout -

0:00 show starts
4:35 Usually when you short there is a fee that is assessed upfront, why wait a month ?
5:20 Whats keeping someone from creating bots to create bots to cover and reshort ? Explain the monthly limit.
6:55 Talk of the bots that have been posted and released. How about a shorting bot ? How would it work ?
8:09 Will tweaks to bots be submitted to github ?
8:55 Another thing we are working on is a new transaction type says Bytemaster.
9:13 The other big event of the week is nubits.
12:14 Do you think there is a risk to Peercoin by Nubits ?
12:52 Lets highlight the difference in approaches between nubits vs the collateralization approach.
15:08 Dan points out how in fairness, Bitshares X has been called a ponzi scheme.
16:45 People were claiming nubits could fund development of peercoin and family, thoughts ?
21:03 How explaining things in the company metaphor helps in aiding the explanation of Bitshares X relative to other products.
23:40 Does Nubits hyper inflation affect Nushare price ?
25:20 Joking talk about a BitNuBit and being able to short it.
26:00 Is it possible to make an API for outside exchanges ?
27:55 What is the relation between I3 and the developers of Music DAC ?
29:30 Discussion of changes made
30:52 Why would the social contract prohibit the previous mentioned improvement ? Discussion on the 2 camps in the community and their wishes. How about over-leveraging the system with catastrophic effects ?
40:55 Can we have a feature that allows shareholders to propose a poll on the blockchain to vote on ?
43:00 What about Dacsunlimited cloning Bitshares X into other coins to maximize value to Bitshares X holders ?
45:55 Regarding DDOS attacks, how does POW compare to DPOS in regards to resiliency to attacks ?
50:05 What role are the delegates who are not in top 101 and can be they be analyzed as easily ?
51:03 It is likely Bitcoin will switch to DPOS and what effect would it have on Bitshares ?
53:20 The market overview page in the GUI, are there plans to make it nicer looking ?
54:00 Daniel Larimer starts to departs but says one last thing.
55:10 Post show starts. Talk of Cob from Music DAC will be coming next week. Talk of his his new non-technical whitepaper and how impressive it is. bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9360.0
An open discussion largely about Music DAC. A viewer thinks the possibility might be larger than Bitshares X?
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on October 01, 2014, 08:00:21 pm
Could you change the photo of bytemaster in Soundcloud where it say's "I killed the bank"? I think bytemaster and many others didn't like it. I also don't like it, thx
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on October 01, 2014, 08:15:45 pm
Could you change the photo of bytemaster in Soundcloud where it say's "I killed the bank"? I think bytemaster and many others didn't like it. I also don't like it, thx

I put it up on 2 shows.  Not sure where bytemaster stands.  It is a joke but I decided against adding it to the latest show.  However, since it bothers you, it would be nice if you came up with an alternative ?  Create an image of cover-art for me to use, please. 
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on October 03, 2014, 10:26:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/8sHhNUW.png)   (http://i.imgur.com/FFsSoU8.png)

hi gamey, hope you have a good day.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on October 03, 2014, 04:25:43 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/8sHhNUW.png)   (http://i.imgur.com/FFsSoU8.png)

hi gamey, hope you have a good day.

Looks like Dan is holding a boxing glove for a boxing promo at first glance.  I wonder how many other people will do a double take sorta thing.   I'll start using it on new episodes.  Thank you !.


edit - This is a little too small and scales up being fuzzy.  I'll use it any way but it if a bigger picture could be found ...
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on October 03, 2014, 04:30:23 pm
:) I did not see the boxing glove, to me it looked like he is a puppeteer (roboteer). Boxing is a fair sport, follows rules.. why not
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: Mysto on October 03, 2014, 05:25:40 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/8sHhNUW.png)   (http://i.imgur.com/FFsSoU8.png)

hi gamey, hope you have a good day.

Looks like Dan is holding a boxing glove for a boxing promo at first glance.  I wonder how many other people will do a double take sorta thing.   I'll start using it on new episodes.  Thank you !.


edit - This is a little too small and scales up being fuzzy.  I'll use it any way but it if a bigger picture could be found ...

Haha yea I thought he was getting hit in the face with a boxing glove.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on October 03, 2014, 06:08:38 pm
nooo... damn perception.. Maybe I can come up with something else later.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: Mysto on October 03, 2014, 06:14:57 pm
nooo... damn perception.. Maybe I can come up with something else later.
nah it's not that bad at second glance.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on October 03, 2014, 06:38:15 pm


Things like that are good.  You want it to grab someone's attention.  I put on images because I assume it helps with search rankings on soundcloud etc but also maybe random people on soundcloud will have a listen.  Thats what "I killed the bank" is good for... not like an official logo. 
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on October 03, 2014, 07:43:38 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/cG8zpA3.jpg)                       (http://i.imgur.com/oL7Qy65.jpg)

?
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: fuzzy on October 04, 2014, 04:56:32 am
(http://i.imgur.com/cG8zpA3.jpg)                       (http://i.imgur.com/oL7Qy65.jpg)

?

LOL....good stuff.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on October 04, 2014, 05:40:27 am

I don't get Staying hungry and not sure about Toast with a fingerlickin good.  Not many people would even get it.  I mean the show is basically based around Dan 4/5 of the time.  Just need a good picture of him.  I like the devilish beard look.  Put some text over it.  Beyond Bitcoin . 


Maybe instead of I killed the bank "I shot the bank" ?
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: tonyk on October 04, 2014, 06:13:37 am

I don't get Staying hungry and not sure about Toast with a fingerlickin good.  Not many people would even get it.  I mean the show is basically based around Dan 4/5 of the time.  Just need a good picture of him.  I like the devilish beard look.  Put some text over it.  Beyond Bitcoin . 


Maybe instead of I killed the bank "I shot the bank" ?

I forked the bank!
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: gamey on October 04, 2014, 07:16:30 am

I don't get Staying hungry and not sure about Toast with a fingerlickin good.  Not many people would even get it.  I mean the show is basically based around Dan 4/5 of the time.  Just need a good picture of him.  I like the devilish beard look.  Put some text over it.  Beyond Bitcoin . 


Maybe instead of I killed the bank "I shot the bank" ?

I forked the bank!

+5%  Dan with his robot at side and a "I forked the bank" logo.  That'd be awesome.
Title: Re: Beyond Bitcoin Show with Dan from 9-26. Lots of market talk. DO NOT MISS OUT
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on October 04, 2014, 06:24:05 pm
Hey Fuzz, my biggest fan!
I see you already used the pic gamey, I'm so proud. Now I see the funny side of the "I killed the bank" too.

Staying hungry just means that you should always believe that you can still reach a goal, and because I listened so much to "eye of the tiger" recently, I used it (hanging tough, staying hungry),  and because Schwarzenegger said that and became "se govana of califona" :D

The other pictures are the vice president of the USA, who is responsible for the Rave Act, which says that when you rent out a party location and someone is using drugs there, that you are guilty of aiding the evildoers. I found him by searching for photos of people who got arrested for LSD use and trade. Then I looked for photos of people who are responsible for bringing these people to jail. I thought that I could find some indicators by looking at the faces, to find if I can tell from the looks, ahm, how the people tick, but yeah.. not possible...or maybe I need more material :D

I give the photo-for-soundcloud stick further to the next person, because I don't want t use gimp anymore today (it's difficult if you only do this once every few months) and because I don't know how to make it sharp and so on, and because gamey used it already (it's OK).


Edit: I thought the man looks a bit like the KFC Colonel hahahaha