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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: October 05, 2014, 02:52:57 am »
From the wiki:
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The price feed for a certain asset (say bitUSD) is derived as the median over all published price feeds not older as 24 hours.

By its nature, that would mean that it lags behind.

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General Discussion / Re: Super Delegates - The Future of DACs
« on: October 05, 2014, 01:59:46 am »
I think that what you're talking about is basically a steward for the DAC.  I think that I3 is fulfilling that role right now.  The purpose of Angelshares was to provide a funding campaign for exactly the purpose that you seem to be talking about.

The DPOS system itself was a compromise between a desire to reduce confirmation times and enabling a large number of people to verify the transactions.  I think a superdelegate would be redundant, and providing a tiered delegate system would put people an additional tier above end users, which would be bad because it consolidates some of the authority of the network, i.e. increased centralization.

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General Discussion / Re: Where did all the shorts go?
« on: October 04, 2014, 09:24:21 pm »
It's really hard for shorts to execute because of the way that the price feed lags behind external market prices.

In an up market:
- Price of bitUSD increases in terms of BTSX
- Feed lags behind so people cancel their short positions
- Only shorts that execute are those who exited their positions late, and they end up eating an immediate loss.

In a down market:
- Price of bitUSD decreases in terms of BTSX
- Feed lags so buyers cancel buy orders, or sellers can go under the feed price
- Almost no shorts end up executing

I think this is one of the reasons that bitUSD cap is so low right now, because short sales are necessary to increase the number of assets.

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General Discussion / Re: Getting paid shares.
« on: October 04, 2014, 08:21:28 pm »
There will be a genesis stake published just like they did for KeyID here:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9380.0

You can search for your public address to see what your allocation is.  To claim it, you will probably have to import your private key into the Music client.

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Technical Support / Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« on: October 04, 2014, 06:19:06 pm »
I think that lagging price feeds are preventing an increase in market cap for bitassets.  My understanding is that short orders are critical to the creation of additional unit of bitassets, but the lagging price feeds severely limit the incentive and execution of short orders.  Is this intended behavior?

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KeyID / Re: Exchanges?
« on: October 04, 2014, 04:32:23 pm »
I shouldn't have said that the market isn't always right - I think I meant to give a justification for the current state of the market.  I was afraid that too many people will interpret "the market is right" as that the market is trading in perfect competition.

I get what you're saying; however, I think we're both counting deck chairs on the Titanic.   :P

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KeyID / Re: Exchanges?
« on: October 04, 2014, 03:25:10 pm »
Having only a few buyers is the demand-side equivalent of having a monopoly or an oligopoly because buyers have zero to little competition, so I would argue the current situation is a (temporary and naescent) market failure.  I guess it depends on what you mean by "right"; that's an abstract question, similar to discussing what defines a rational agent.

Suffice it to say, I think that the price will go up provided that people are made aware of the existence of keyID/DNS.

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KeyID / Re: Exchanges?
« on: October 04, 2014, 03:13:06 pm »
The market is not always right unless you specify the parameters/context :/ Currently, nobody knows that (bit)DNS exists yet, except stakeholders; hence, the market only has sell orders on it.

Once the marketing engine gets rolling, you'll probably start to see pricing that makes more sense in context of what value the KeyID service offers.

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General Discussion / Re: Is it time to close the curtains?
« on: October 04, 2014, 01:57:47 pm »
What about a invite only subsection. Something not based on post count but actual content of the user or a willingness to actually help.

I think it would not be a good idea to actually close off the forum all together, it would just isolate people that want to get involved but are new.

I would argue that any closed off section would be nearly equivalent to completely closing off the forums from a 'transparency' perspective.  If people really want to keep prying eyes from seeing their conversations, they should pick a different vehicle for communicating rather than posting on internet forums.

Instead of restricting the forums, I would argue that some minor reorganization of the forums would make it easier for new users to access:
- I think that the forums should be reorganized or renamed in a manner that makes more sense rather than closed off. i.e., the current "Bank & Exchange" forum is under the DAC category, so it should really be the bitsharesX forum.
- The development forums should, in my opinion, be put in a subforum under each DAC.
- I had no idea that KeyID was going to be the vehicle for DNSshares until I happened upon that forum, so I would rename that KeyID/DNS or something more clear.

I can think of a couple more (minor) changes, but the essence of the reorganization should focus on paving the groundwork for more DACs to start popping up, and directing people to the proper subforum for discussing a particular DAC.

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KeyID / Re: [DNS] v0.0.2 - Trade the snapshot and fight for delegate pay
« on: October 04, 2014, 01:16:37 pm »
agsexplorer.com team delegates are live and kicking.  Please support us.

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Are there any plans to add KeyID/DNS or NOTES (once the genesis stake is published) to agsexplorer?  I know that you can search the genesis stake manually, but I find it incredibly convenient to look up my AGS donation on your website to get an idea of my share.

Thanks, and keep up the amazing work work!  Added you to my votes :D

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General Discussion / Re: The lemonade stand
« on: October 04, 2014, 04:00:49 am »
I see the problem, although I don't know if it exactly mirrors the bitasset yield scenario.

How about this model for yield?:

You could calculate the yield on a per-block basis, since as far as the network is concerned, the resolution on confirmed transactions is per-block.  If you want to encourage people to hold an asset, you could have a ramp-up period for an increase in assets, i.e., your share is diminished for the first XXX blocks until it is earning at full potential.  Any decrease in your accounts would cause an immediate and proportionate decrease in the yield (i.e. no rampdown).

This would:
- Provide incentive for people to hold funds to maximize yield.
- Provide disincentive to withdraw funds, which would immediately reduce yield.
- Since the share is recalculated on a per-block basis instead of at the time of withdrawal, there's no strategy for increasing your share based on timing your withdrawal.

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General Discussion / Re: Short Rules for Wiki -> Please Update
« on: October 02, 2014, 04:22:08 am »
Sorry, I realized that I misread the first condition as being at the short price.  Makes perfect sense now.

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General Discussion / Re: Short Rules for Wiki -> Please Update
« on: October 02, 2014, 01:16:04 am »
I'm concerned that if the rules are applied in series, then somebody could potentially put in a short order for a very small amount of bitUSD with a ridiculously high collateral ratio and a similarly high price limit, and that would prevent all shorts from executing.

I tried two orders:

Initial conditions: The price feed is at 30.8290 BTSX/BitUSD, there is a buy order for 0.7009 BitUSD at a price of 30.2029BTSX/BitUSD, the lowest sell order is at 30.2777 BTSX/BitUSD

Order 1: I put in a short for 0.7009 BitUSD at a price limit of 30.2029BTSX/BitUSD with a collateral ratio of 75 BTSX/BitUSD (which was not the highest collateral ratio on the books).  It didn't execute.

Order 2: I put in the same order, but this time I made sure it had the highest collateral ratio.  It didn't execute either.

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General Discussion / Re: Short Rules for Wiki -> Please Update
« on: October 02, 2014, 01:00:05 am »
Are these conditions live in the current v0.4.18, or are they going to be added in the client?  I have an order that I believe which meets the conditions which is not executing.

Also, in order for you to be able to execute reasonably soon, wouldn't you need to put up at least 2x the price feed as collateral?  I ask because the GUI client currently puts the price feed (1x) as collateral when you click the feed price limit, implying that it won't execute until the price goes below half the price feed at time of order entry.  I don't think a lot of users realize that their orders are not executing because they don't meet the required collateral.

Also, not to be too pedantic, does the logic of the rules apply in the order that was spelled out by bytemaster?  i.e., if somebody had a sufficiently high collateral ratio but did not have the HIGHEST ratio, but they had a lower price limit, should that order execute?

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General Discussion / Re: BitUSD volume?
« on: September 30, 2014, 01:51:47 pm »
I'm okay with the low volume for now.  I kind of expect it.  I've hedged my position on BTSX by buying into bitUSD the amount that I contributed to AGS to guarantee a return (assuming the peg holds, of which I'm reasonably confident).  In fact, it's better than a simple hedge, since the interest generated on it will make it worth substantially more.

I think that once the backend code gets sorted out and the BTSX marketing engine gets rolling, BTSX will gain more value.  We will see a lot more people securing there gains by buying into bitUSD, and the market will become much more liquid.

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