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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: Madit on September 17, 2014, 07:41:26 am
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World Super Lotto will open ticket sales this week very soon in a day or two. first 10 users to respond in that thread will get an additional FREEBIE for play. :)
#gambling sites for Bitcoin lottery : http://www.winwsl.com/
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Sounds great. I want to try it.
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I don't play .. now what? ;)
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what's this?
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I don't play Lotto, I prefer to have shares only^^
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Free play?I like it.
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what's this?
same here… guess it should move under random discussion…shouldn't it?
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Review
About
World wide lottery using bitcoins
Mission
Our mission is to offer a fair lottery to the entire world at an extremely affordable rate to play. We strive to make our community feel welcomed and we are completely transparent and thank you for trusting us as we care about each one of our players.
Description
World Super Lotto (WSL) is similar to your familiar state lotteries the main difference is that there is no legal currency used to buy tickets and pay our winnings. WSL uses Bitcoin as its "currency."
Unlike state lottos you can play online and buy your tickets from your phone, tablet or computer. WSL if the only lottery of its kind that uses the classic manual drawing using a machine that meets the standards of the World Lottery Association. You can watch the balls being picked live from the website.
There are many benefits playing WSL vs traditional lotteries:
1 - WSL does not use a real currency and therefor your winnings are not "taxed"
2 - The payout is done within 48 hours and goes straight to your account, you are then free to withdraw your winnings to your personal wallet
3 - The odds of winning WSL are much greater than other lotteries
4 - Playing WSL is socially fun as you can chat live with other players
Play Here : http://www.winwsl.com/
Join Here : https://www.facebook.com/WinWSL/timeline?ref=page_internal
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I have a few questions: How are you going to prove the draw is actually happening live and not just a prerecorded feed from earlier? How are you going to prove your "jet air machine" randomly selects numbers and isn't somehow rigged? Which trusted individuals or organisations have you invited to verify these things? Who are you, what is the name of your organization and why is there no contact information on your site other than an email address?
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I have a few questions: How are you going to prove the draw is actually happening live and not just a prerecorded feed from earlier? How are you going to prove your "jet air machine" randomly selects numbers and isn't somehow rigged? Which trusted individuals or organisations have you invited to verify these things? Who are you, what is the name of your organization and why is there no contact information on your site other than an email address?
Good questions and we want to be as transparent as possible without being to exposed, as is the case with most successful online gambling sites.
1) To prove it is live we will announce some headline on a well known world news website such as BBC or something like that, also before the drawing the person doing the drawing will hold up some tablet in front of the camera and in front of the lotto machine, we will zoom in on the tablet and load a website that shows the exact time and date at that moment. a site like this:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
Also we are open to any other ideas that you might have, so if you have a better solution please feel free to chime in
2) As for the machine, you will see the balls loaded in the top slots before they drop into the mixing section. You will be able to see them listed in numerical order 1-40 so you can see all balls are there, then they will drop and start mixing, everything is pretty transparent,it takes about 10 seconds for each ball to be picked so i believe you would notice if some balls were weighted down or something of that nature.
We will have a page with winners and soon we will introduce a forum so users can chat with each other and talk about the tickets they bought and if they won or not etc... We want to be around a very long time and have put 6 months into developing the web site and backend, it is all very complex with the automated payments and bitcoin processing etc...
Here is the Exact machine we will be using, feel free to contact the manufacturere and ask about the standars, they build it according to Wold Lottery Association standards.
http://cn.gzqiqi.net/productview.asp?id=565
3) You are asking personal questions about who we are and are we well known individual or group etc... Do you know the owners of satoshidice or any other popular bitcoin gaming site? We are a Costa Rican registered corporation. Like most of the bitcoin world we prefer to have our identities remain anonymous. The only other lotteries that are similar to this are government operated ones, so we wanted to embrace independence, just like bitcoin should be. A currency and a lottery for the people by the people.
4) If you have any suggestions of anything that would make you feel better let us know, we are here to build a trust.
5) What have you got to lose really? tickets cost just .001btc each there is a 2 ticket minimum, so per drawing the minimum is still less than the equivalent of $1 USD
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And for those of you who want the free plays please go register at the site and then we will email you the codes! the first 10 who have replied here will get the code for 2 free plays, and anyone else here that wants to play after the first 10 will get 1 free play. The first 10 will get both, so they will get 3 free plays total.
Please check back in here after you register so i know and ill send you the codes!!
We should open ticket sales on Friday :)
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look like ticket sales will open tomorrow or Saturday at the latest, still a couple coupon codes to hand out if you go register! looks like the opening pot will be 5btc and could go up by the first drawing!!
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ok I registered now I just need a freebie code
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ok you will get the code today!!
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me too, my username: 1dracox
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hey guys! Great News, we are accepting ticket sales now and the first Drawing is LIVE October 1st, you can watch it here : http://winwsl.com/index.php/live-drawing
I am sending our the promo codes to those who have requested them :)
If you have requested but not registered yet, please register and then tell me your user name!
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Anyone check out the site yet? Woud love some feedback as we worked our butts off to bring you the best Lottery system in the world... I know it's a bold statement, but it really is... Bitcoins and a Live drawing!? How fun is that!!
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I used both of my free tickets(thanks).
For the most part I like the idea and concept.
The checkout needs to be a little simpler. I wasn't sure if I had added tickets or not until I got the email.
I Like lottery style games because the public is all ready familiar with the concept.
Big prizes are whats going to make or break it. Think about it, when the state lottery gets close to record breaking amounts people talk about it more and it makes the local and national news. Other then that I really like the concept. Consider doing a free ticket drop to pts and ags holders and perhaps some other coins or put up a large prize and I think people will play. Good Luck.
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I used both of my free tickets(thanks).
For the most part I like the idea and concept.
The checkout needs to be a little simpler. I wasn't sure if I had added tickets or not until I got the email.
I Like lottery style games because the public is all ready familiar with the concept.
Big prizes are whats going to make or break it. Think about it, when the state lottery gets close to record breaking amounts people talk about it more and it makes the local and national news. Other then that I really like the concept. Consider doing a free ticket drop to pts and ags holders and perhaps some other coins or put up a large prize and I think people will play. Good Luck.
thank you for your feedback, it's greatly appreciated. We intend on being here forever as we want to be EXACTLY, like you said, a familiar lottery, much like state lotteries. You got what we are going for, we wanted this to be very familiar. We are also big believers in separation of our currency from government and we love the idea that with bitcoin, we have the power. We don't withhold any money for things like one lump payment or taxes etc.
I love getting feedback, i agree the checkout system should be more clear, can you be a little more specific to what you would like to see change? Also can you please clarify the points i have bolded above?
Thanks for playing and good luck, make sure you Tune in to watch the drawing live!
Also this goes for everyone, We just added another bonus to encourage people to spend a little btc of their own. So if you buy at least 2 tickets using your own btc for this upcoming drawing, then email us at support@winwsl.com and let us know, we will send you a code for another free play!!
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Hi,
I have registered. Can I get some free tickets to try it? I will then respond with any comments..
Regarding the below Consider doing a free ticket drop to pts and ags holders and perhaps some other coins
I think you should consider do that as part of your marketing strategy and in order to attract all people from this community to play the game.
This community is all about PTS (Protoshares) and AGS (Angelshares), tokens that give shares in future DACS developed that the developers want to attract a strong supportive community, who help launch their product in many different ways (marketing, participating in the DAC, helping with the development etc..)
I am not technically savvy to explain you how this is done. So others should jump in and explain you better. Basically you take a snapshot of all the AGS and PTS addresses and award them some free tickets according to their balances. Many of them will like to continue playing by buying new shares. It is a great marketing to attract a community with many members and also people in here will start spreading the word around for you. "WSL honors pts and ags. Get your free tickets today" etc..
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Hi,
I have registered. Can I get some free tickets to try it? I will then respond with any comments..
Regarding the below Consider doing a free ticket drop to pts and ags holders and perhaps some other coins
I think you should consider do that as part of your marketing strategy and in order to attract all people from this community to play the game.
This community is all about PTS (Protoshares) and AGS (Angelshares), tokens that give shares in future DACS developed that the developers want to attract a strong supportive community, who help launch their product in many different ways (marketing, participating in the DAC, helping with the development etc..)
I am not technically savvy to explain you how this is done. So others should jump in and explain you better. Basically you take a snapshot of all the AGS and PTS addresses and award them some free tickets according to their balances. Many of them will like to continue playing by buying new shares. It is a great marketing to attract a community with many members and also people in here will start spreading the word around for you. "WSL honors pts and ags. Get your free tickets today" etc..
Ok im all about innovation and I am well aware that World Super Lotto has to build a trust, is there anyone who can send me a link where i can find more info on this? And how do you all imagine me accepting these? It would take a lot of work to build it into the API (checkout) system. I could just trade them here and award free plays for them, is that what you had in mind?
I am open to this idea but would love some assistance learning and understanding this concept.
Thanks
mf-tzo did you register? I think i see you, can you confirm your registered as mf? I will send you your coupon code to the email provided!! :)
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I did registered as mf. Thank you very much for the ticket I will try it soon..
Good luck with your project. As long as you have good intentions I think it will have a success..
Stick around here and if people don't respond don't get put off. It is just that the devs and the more appropriate tech and smart people to help you are currently all very busy launching new DACS, polishing and improving BTSX.
The AGS addresses that you can do a snapshot can be found below:
http://www1.agsexplorer.com/masterbook/
look at PTS and BTC donations
For your information, Lottoshares, a 3rd party DAC, did a snapshot to AGS - PTS. Although I am not sure how many have actually claimed their shares yet since there are some security and trust issues. I know I haven't yet but soon more appropriate tools will get developed in order to securely claim the shares that people airdrop to AGS-PTS..
Some links that can get you up to speed to see what is BitsharesX, PTS, AGS and the social consensus below:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Main_Page
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares_Social_Consensus
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares_PTS
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares_AGS
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some comments:
I am not sure if I used the code that you sent me. It didn't specify for how many tickets it was so I chose 1 ticket for 10 drawings to see what will happen. The system advised that I didn't have sufficient funds so when I clicked "back" and tried to play again by putting the code, the code has expired.
Then I saw that I had 2 free tickets. Was this from the code or because I have registered?
I did play in the end with the 2 free tickets.
All in all it looks good. A suggestion would be maybe to able to put the codes on the front page somewhere so we can see how many funds we have in advance with the codes.
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Ok when you click the play button you are brought to the number picking screen, this is great and very easy to follow, you then proceed to the preview ticket screen. Now this seemed very simple I put my code in but this was where it was "off" a bit. I am going off memory here but it was as simple as just going to the confirm order and boom done. I am not sure if you want a update cart button or redeem code button on the preview ticket screen to change the balance owed to zero but on the last screen (I can't be more specific because it just says insufficient balance now) I should just get a brief overview of my order and a confirm order button.
I also just noticed my free tickets did not show up under "my account" but I do have the email confirming them. I would suggest not have the confirmation email not be a .zip file because I won't open it in the off chance this is a phishing scheme. Make some thing that can just be viewed maybe add a PGP signature so we know its from you.
The hardest part will be getting this idea started and building a reputation, so people KNOW you will pay out if they win. A free ticket drop could be done on say one free ticket given to every bitcoin addy or pts addy, whatever. I don't know how to do it but I know it can be done because lots of coins have done airdrops.
Just something to consider but marketing will be a bit harder for you then the standard lottery. Ask yourself a couple of questions.
Why would someone play WSL instead of state lotto?
State lotto gets tv and newspaper time showing off the winner's. In all likely hood your winners will be anonymous.
State lotto has been around and has huge jackpots, I don't know what your bankroll is but can you offer large enough amounts to attract players?
Your idea has a ton of upside but the above are some pitfalls, can I ask what you plans are to market and how you answer the above questions?
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To watch our commercial, click here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCefA8lNsJrWAltytCyV9SlA
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Thanks guy for your feedback and i will answer those questions tomorrow when i get back form a business trip im on, just a little busy at the moment and want to answer them in detail...
and yes we plan on being around for a VERY long time, so i give you my word i am hones and have good intentions in mind. I truly believe with the right feedback and evolution of business model, this has potential to be the best lottery in the world...
Our goal is to develop a legitimate lottery by the people for the people without the government intervening. I believe bitcoin allows us independence from our financial institutions that always want to know every bit of our business.
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Just something to consider but marketing will be a bit harder for you then the standard lottery. Ask yourself a couple of questions.
Why would someone play WSL instead of state lotto? Here are just some reasons:
1) much better odds to win (even though it will take some time before the pot is VERY exciting) - our game is pick 5 numbers 1-40 with no mega number, so the odds of winning an average Mega lottos is 1 in 178,000,000 the odds of getting 5/5 at WSL in more like 1 in 680,000 MUCH BETTER ODDS..
2) You can use Bitcoin, we all know the benefits of Btc, anonymity, tax free, decentralized, convenient, online
3) Play anywhere in the world with an internet connection, no need to buy at a brick and mortar location
4) no penalties for taking your jackpot all at once, no long term payout, get your winnings within 24 hours from drawing, but mostly within an hour or two of the drawing
5) There is a social aspect to WSL, we have a forum where it will evolve to a community of friends and fun chatting
State lotto gets tv and newspaper time showing off the winner's. In all likely hood your winners will be anonymous.
1) Our winners may be anonymous if they chose, that's part of the beauty, but i also think that many users have nothing to hide and wouldn't mind letting us share their story of winning with our community and our social media outlets. We will ask some winners if they mind sharing, if they don't we will do as much PR as possible to show everyone real people are winning... and even if they chose to remain anonymous, we can still do a story on them using an alias vs their real name...
State lotto has been around and has huge jackpots, I don't know what your bankroll is but can you offer large enough amounts to attract players?
Very true and we don't have a big enough bank roll to have an extremely attractive pot yet, we are open to partnering with an investor if anyone is interested, but it's not necessary. Our pot is starting at 5Btc, i know that's not huge but one ticket is only .001btc and the odds aren't bad, it's a pretty good gamble already. We are here for the long haul and gradual sales will increase the pot, right now 100% of sales go to the pot, the staff at WSL all have other jobs also to pay the bills, we are interested in growing the pot as fast as possible and we will not take any profit until the pot get MUCH higher.
Your idea has a ton of upside but the above are some pitfalls, can I ask what you plans are to market and how you answer the above questions?
Thank you, i agree WSL has huge potential. Our marketing strategy right now is SEO and word of mouth through forums, blogs, social media etc... I'd love some ideas if you guys have any. Because there is no income generated from WSL and we still have families to support, we are limited to working capital and time as well...
Gentso1
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Just something to consider but marketing will be a bit harder for you then the standard lottery. Ask yourself a couple of questions.
Why would someone play WSL instead of state lotto? Here are just some reasons:
1) much better odds to win (even though it will take some time before the pot is VERY exciting) - our game is pick 5 numbers 1-40 with no mega number, so the odds of winning an average Mega lottos is 1 in 178,000,000 the odds of getting 5/5 at WSL in more like 1 in 680,000 MUCH BETTER ODDS..
2) You can use Bitcoin, we all know the benefits of Btc, anonymity, tax free, decentralized, convenient, online
3) Play anywhere in the world with an internet connection, no need to buy at a brick and mortar location
4) no penalties for taking your jackpot all at once, no long term payout, get your winnings within 24 hours from drawing, but mostly within an hour or two of the drawing
5) There is a social aspect to WSL, we have a forum where it will evolve to a community of friends and fun chatting
State lotto gets tv and newspaper time showing off the winner's. In all likely hood your winners will be anonymous.
1) Our winners may be anonymous if they chose, that's part of the beauty, but i also think that many users have nothing to hide and wouldn't mind letting us share their story of winning with our community and our social media outlets. We will ask some winners if they mind sharing, if they don't we will do as much PR as possible to show everyone real people are winning... and even if they chose to remain anonymous, we can still do a story on them using an alias vs their real name...
State lotto has been around and has huge jackpots, I don't know what your bankroll is but can you offer large enough amounts to attract players?
Very true and we don't have a big enough bank roll to have an extremely attractive pot yet, we are open to partnering with an investor if anyone is interested, but it's not necessary. Our pot is starting at 5Btc, i know that's not huge but one ticket is only .001btc and the odds aren't bad, it's a pretty good gamble already. We are here for the long haul and gradual sales will increase the pot, right now 100% of sales go to the pot, the staff at WSL all have other jobs also to pay the bills, we are interested in growing the pot as fast as possible and we will not take any profit until the pot get MUCH higher.
Your idea has a ton of upside but the above are some pitfalls, can I ask what you plans are to market and how you answer the above questions?
Thank you, i agree WSL has huge potential. Our marketing strategy right now is SEO and word of mouth through forums, blogs, social media etc... I'd love some ideas if you guys have any. Because there is no income generated from WSL and we still have families to support, we are limited to working capital and time as well...
Gentso1
Thanks for taking time to answer some questions. I may be wrong but you may be able to get some investors by creating a user issued asset on the exchange which would allow you to sell shares in your company and help bring you closer to that big prize you are building toward.
Take it a step further and make your user issued asset, do a share drop to pts/ags holders and you will gain the support of the community. I mean you all ready have a working product you need capital to put up large prizes and attract more players.
Or even better try to ingrate your lotto into a gambling platform, roulette,dice,blackjack,poker. Then you are not only attracting lotto players but gamblers of all sorts. Players may come for the poker and see their is a big lotto drawing and say why not is only .001btc. If it is done correctly all the above games will share in the profit and allow a bit of gambling diversification :). The holders of the user issued asset perhaps called "bitWSL" or if integrated with other games "bitCHN-bitchance"....whatever would be paid a yield for helping with start up capital.
The good part is you have something working, now you just need to attract some money for the "prize" and with a big prize will come players......money attracts money, never fails.
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Just something to consider but marketing will be a bit harder for you then the standard lottery. Ask yourself a couple of questions.
Why would someone play WSL instead of state lotto? Here are just some reasons:
1) much better odds to win (even though it will take some time before the pot is VERY exciting) - our game is pick 5 numbers 1-40 with no mega number, so the odds of winning an average Mega lottos is 1 in 178,000,000 the odds of getting 5/5 at WSL in more like 1 in 680,000 MUCH BETTER ODDS..
2) You can use Bitcoin, we all know the benefits of Btc, anonymity, tax free, decentralized, convenient, online
3) Play anywhere in the world with an internet connection, no need to buy at a brick and mortar location
4) no penalties for taking your jackpot all at once, no long term payout, get your winnings within 24 hours from drawing, but mostly within an hour or two of the drawing
5) There is a social aspect to WSL, we have a forum where it will evolve to a community of friends and fun chatting
State lotto gets tv and newspaper time showing off the winner's. In all likely hood your winners will be anonymous.
1) Our winners may be anonymous if they chose, that's part of the beauty, but i also think that many users have nothing to hide and wouldn't mind letting us share their story of winning with our community and our social media outlets. We will ask some winners if they mind sharing, if they don't we will do as much PR as possible to show everyone real people are winning... and even if they chose to remain anonymous, we can still do a story on them using an alias vs their real name...
State lotto has been around and has huge jackpots, I don't know what your bankroll is but can you offer large enough amounts to attract players?
Very true and we don't have a big enough bank roll to have an extremely attractive pot yet, we are open to partnering with an investor if anyone is interested, but it's not necessary. Our pot is starting at 5Btc, i know that's not huge but one ticket is only .001btc and the odds aren't bad, it's a pretty good gamble already. We are here for the long haul and gradual sales will increase the pot, right now 100% of sales go to the pot, the staff at WSL all have other jobs also to pay the bills, we are interested in growing the pot as fast as possible and we will not take any profit until the pot get MUCH higher.
Your idea has a ton of upside but the above are some pitfalls, can I ask what you plans are to market and how you answer the above questions?
Thank you, i agree WSL has huge potential. Our marketing strategy right now is SEO and word of mouth through forums, blogs, social media etc... I'd love some ideas if you guys have any. Because there is no income generated from WSL and we still have families to support, we are limited to working capital and time as well...
Gentso1
Thanks for taking time to answer some questions. I may be wrong but you may be able to get some investors by creating a user issued asset on the exchange which would allow you to sell shares in your company and help bring you closer to that big prize you are building toward.
Take it a step further and make your user issued asset, do a share drop to pts/ags holders and you will gain the support of the community. I mean you all ready have a working product you need capital to put up large prizes and attract more players.
Or even better try to ingrate your lotto into a gambling platform, roulette,dice,blackjack,poker. Then you are not only attracting lotto players but gamblers of all sorts. Players may come for the poker and see their is a big lotto drawing and say why not is only .001btc. If it is done correctly all the above games will share in the profit and allow a bit of gambling diversification :). The holders of the user issued asset perhaps called "bitWSL" or if integrated with other games "bitCHN-bitchance"....whatever would be paid a yield for helping with start up capital.
The good part is you have something working, now you just need to attract some money for the "prize" and with a big prize will come players......money attracts money, never fails.
great advise and feedback thank you... can you tell me more about the bolded area? how do i create that and on what exchange? it sounds like something that would be great for us... thanks again
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ok you will get the code today!!
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ok you will get the code today!!
Who are you responding too? who will get their code today?
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Some guys at bitcointalk were being skeptical and asking me to provide proof that WSL actually has a lotto machine and we aren't just scamming... They asked me to take pics and put #BTCCOINTALK on the machine, so i did and here are the pics
(http://i.imgur.com/B4sm77c.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TAzli8z.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kNUtwBD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1lQx5J3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/10vCFKl.jpg)