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Title: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 11, 2015, 08:55:43 pm
I have noticed a lot of people complaining about the falling price.
I just want to take a moment and say...

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/93/93c25706c9f986424ee76103da6c7e349d9dd964a64cd7674321ea1ed9823346.jpg)

But seriously, If you have a ton of BTS that has lost value, if you feel like it's going nowhere but down. 
Don't lose heart...

You are not yet aware of this, but there are several people working behind the scenes that are introducing something amazing into this space.
Each of us is bringing something unique to the table.  Together we are building something that no one else has really tried before.

We've been quiet because we are in stealth mode.  There were legal pieces we had to get out of the way first but those were cleared out of the way as of this morning.  The dropping BTS price has been very good for us, allowing us to accumulate enough that we are nearing launch much more quickly than we originally hoped.

Our plan was originally longer term, we weren't even going to launch this until next year. 
But something changed, something unexpected and wonderful in it's own way.
 
Now instead of next year, something is coming in the next 90 days.  You will get a preview of it in the next 2 weeks.
We believe that what is coming is a revolution that will be bigger than anything which has been seen before.
BTS is the future, we're absolutely sure of it. 
I can't really say anything more.

You don't know me.  I don't expect you to trust me.   However I felt I should bring a message of hope because I see people leaving in droves and for good reason.  The price is falling and the amount of currency in circulation is just way to high for the current market to support.

It needs a killer app to spur mass adoption.  We are building that killer app. It's not anything that's ever been discussed on this site. It will be the most incredible thing you've never heard of.  Just bear with us a little longer.
In otherwords...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6f/4b/a8/6f4ba834ebb44ae01fe533cac8bb13fe.jpg)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: mudshark79 on April 11, 2015, 09:02:07 pm
Who are you and what have you done to Stan?  :o
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on April 11, 2015, 09:08:39 pm
Uhh...hmm...lol I'd like to believe this...but...really?

 ???
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: betax on April 11, 2015, 09:12:26 pm
Great first post, hope is real :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: toast on April 11, 2015, 09:25:05 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: robrigo on April 11, 2015, 09:32:22 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine

Maybe it's Decentralized Application a.k.a. BTSTV a.k.a. Bitcoinjesus2.0?  8)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: clayop on April 11, 2015, 09:36:42 pm
Who are you  :P
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: vlight on April 11, 2015, 10:22:21 pm
Hype!

 +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: rgcrypto on April 11, 2015, 10:25:50 pm
The people who sold their stock after the crash of 2008 still regret their foolishness.

I don't know what you are up to. but I like it!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: sittingduck on April 11, 2015, 10:29:22 pm
Lots going on behind the scenes. I like it.   


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: canucklehead on April 11, 2015, 10:32:12 pm
  "People leaving in droves and for good reason". Was that a subtle jab by a mockingbird, or a good reason for hope?

Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 11, 2015, 10:33:01 pm
@Toast and everyone else...
It's real.  I'm neither of those people.  Sorry the posting is obtuse.  I just don't have the legal right to talk about it yet.  2 weeks, maybe less for a full announce.  Depends on how quickly the website is spun up and how fast we can get legal to sign off on the official announce.
Probably shouldn't have jumped the gun by saying anything at all.  But I've been working on this a long time, just getting excited to see the effort bare fruit. 

In the meantime, I'll hang here in the forums and see where I can contribute.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: Stan on April 11, 2015, 10:33:58 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine

That's like saying you can't tell the difference between hot and cold!

Not Dan or me.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: canucklehead on April 11, 2015, 10:39:27 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine

That's like saying you can't tell the difference between hot and cold!

Not Dan or me.


Pinky swear Stan? Kidding. I know its not you.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: mint chocolate chip on April 11, 2015, 10:44:26 pm
This is the first official post from our PR Department

Edit: this statement was sarcastic
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: zerosum on April 11, 2015, 10:49:37 pm


I am totally, totally  buying it

...at 0.000015 or less BTC/BTS that is...

Anybody mind me wanting  60% more return?
Nobody?

 Yeee, I thought so.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: canucklehead on April 11, 2015, 11:01:15 pm
This is the first official post from our PR Department

(http://i.imgur.com/FV1rEWT.jpg)


Mr T for delegate!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: rgcrypto on April 11, 2015, 11:14:35 pm
This is the first official post from our PR Department

(http://i.imgur.com/FV1rEWT.jpg)


Mr T for delegate!

That's actually not a bad idea. Delegate Mascot?
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 11, 2015, 11:16:15 pm
This is the first official post from our PR Department

You might want to mention that your statement was not a true fact.  I saw the sarcasm, but I think others missed it.

To clarify, I don't work for bitshares or any company that has ever announced support bitshares in the past.
Although bitsharesblog's statement is giving me pause for concern now.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: NewMine on April 11, 2015, 11:16:39 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: jaran on April 11, 2015, 11:23:31 pm
Fly me to the moon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhujM7T1_fQ
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: blahblah7up on April 11, 2015, 11:29:13 pm
Welcome tsaishen.  Thanks for the hope.
And that was very nice of you to offer an opportunity to the poster in the other thread.  :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: mint chocolate chip on April 11, 2015, 11:33:53 pm
This is the first official post from our PR Department

You might want to mention that your statement was not a true fact.  I saw the sarcasm, but I think others missed it.

To clarify, I don't work for bitshares or any company that has ever announced support bitshares in the past.
Although bitsharesblog's statement is giving me pause for concern now.
edited my statement, which was sarcastic. Sorry to anyone I may have confused.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: onceuponatime on April 11, 2015, 11:40:04 pm
This is the first official post from our PR Department

You might want to mention that your statement was not a true fact.  I saw the sarcasm, but I think others missed it.

To clarify, I don't work for bitshares or any company that has ever announced support bitshares in the past.
Although bitsharesblog's statement is giving me pause for concern now.
edited my statement, which was sarcastic. Sorry to anyone I may have confused.

Yeah, unfortunately sarcasm often doesn't come across well on forums that have many users with English as a second language.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: canucklehead on April 11, 2015, 11:49:05 pm
This is the first official post from our PR Department

You might want to mention that your statement was not a true fact.  I saw the sarcasm, but I think others missed it.

To clarify, I don't work for bitshares or any company that has ever announced support bitshares in the past.
Although bitsharesblog's statement is giving me pause for concern now.

I'm pretty sure everybody here knows it was sarcasm. I'm skeptical because you said that the low price was great for you guys. Well... wouldn't it be better to not say anything and let the price go down even more? Altruism and incredulity aside... I'm going to have to side with NewMine on this one. I dumped a load of SDC to buy BTS, and that coin pumped over 400%, while BTS has eaten away over 50% of my investment. (Some folks here are in much worse shape.) Why? Because I believed BTS was about the product... not hype like SDC. Still believing, but the natives are getting restless.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: rgcrypto on April 11, 2015, 11:55:43 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.

How surprising of you. Who do you work for anyway? I hope you charge well for your trolling services.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: canucklehead on April 12, 2015, 12:01:45 am
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.

How surprising of you. Who do you work for anyway? I hope you charge well for your trolling services.

At first I thought NewMine was a troll, but now I see him as an algae eater. The tank has to be cleaned by someone.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 12, 2015, 12:04:25 am
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.

Post was supposed to be humorous and hopeful.  Also the reason we choose bitshares is because of the inflation decisions and a few others that have been made lately.  Price drops are good at this stage of business for us.  But real diehards, well you guys should stick around awhile, if you are still here at that point, you will see a reward.

Ok, lots of confusion about who I am, who I work for etc.  It's all irrelevant at this stage.  My honest to god hope is about a 50% dip in price right before we launch this.  However I see lots of grumbling and I do want people to know something is imminently on the horizon.

So since I can't announce this on my own, which is frankly one hell of craw in my maw, let's ask some questions about what has changed in bitshares and the world in the past month or so that might cause us to escalate the plan.

First off, by raise of hands,

Who is aware of any bitshares enabled ATMs coming online shortly?
/me raises hand

Who is aware of the advantages of bitshares vs NXT for a company that runs existing bitcoin ATMS?
/me raises hand

Who is aware of the fact the certain ATMs are also already being directly linked to exchanges?
/me hand again

Who knows the fees associated with trying to withdraw cash and manage other assets while traveling internationally?
/me *nods*

Now ask yourself.  As a US based small business owner who is seeking exposure to international capital markets, what provides a better tool bitshares or NXT?
Why?

At this point I can't say or even hint at more without risking breaking my NDA.  You all seem like a great group of people and I'm excited to be here, but it's not my job to announce this.  My role is mostly the project management and talent acquisition side, read this as CIO.  You'll probably only see me here looking for aspiring dev talent.  The CEO is a long standing member of this community, he'll do the actual announce so you know it's legit.

In the meantime, please by all means, if you feel the urge to divest yourself, do so.  Dump at todays prices.  But my point still stands, don't complain about it.  I bought bitcoin the first time it reached $20 something and sold when it all when it touched $4 USD.  I sold because I believed firmly that it had lost all potential, so I do feel your pain. 

On the other hand, if you have holdings and have been looking for an excuse to hold on for just a little bit longer.  Here is a reason to keep your hope alive, hold your shares and let's do this thing together!

Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: zerosum on April 12, 2015, 12:10:48 am
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.

Post was supposed to be humorous and hopeful.  Also the reason we choose bitshares is because of the inflation decisions and a few others that have been made lately.  Price drops are good at this stage of business for us.  But real diehards, well you guys should stick around awhile, if you are still here at that point, you will see a reward.

Ok, lots of confusion about who I am, who I work for etc.  It's all irrelevant at this stage.  My honest to god hope is about a 50% dip in price right before we launch this.  However I see lots of grumbling and I do want people to know something is imminently on the horizon.

So since I can't announce this on my own, which is frankly one hell of craw in my maw, let's ask some questions about what has changed in bitshares and the world in the past month or so that might cause us to escalate the plan.

First off, by raise of hands,

Who is aware of any bitshares enabled ATMs coming online shortly?
/me raises hand

Who is aware of the advantages of bitshares vs NXT for a company that runs existing bitcoin ATMS?
/me raises hand

Who is aware of the fact the certain ATMs are also already being directly linked to exchanges?
/me hand again

Who knows the fees associated with trying to withdraw cash and manage other assets while traveling internationally?
/me *nods*

Now ask yourself.  As a US based small business owner who is seeking exposure to international capital markets, what provides a better tool bitshares or NXT?
Why?

At this point I can't say or even hint at more without risking breaking my NDA.  You all seem like a great group of people and I'm excited to be here, but it's not my job to announce this.  My role is mostly the project management and talent acquisition side, read this as CIO.  You'll probably only see me here looking for aspiring dev talent.  The CEO is a long standing member of this community, he'll do the actual announce so you know it's legit.

In the meantime, please by all means, if you feel the urge to divest yourself, do so.  Dump at todays prices.  But my point still stands, don't complain about it.  I bought bitcoin the first time it reached $20 something and sold when it all when it touched $4 USD.  I sold because I believed firmly that it had lost all potential, so I do feel your pain. 

On the other hand, if you have holdings and have been looking for an excuse to hold on for just a little bit longer.  Here is a reason to keep your hope alive, hold your shares and let's do this thing together!



 what is NXT?
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: mint chocolate chip on April 12, 2015, 02:03:07 am
Whatever you have up your sleeves I hope it works out. Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: sudo on April 12, 2015, 02:18:27 am
can't wait to see

来自我的 M812C 上的 Tapatalk

Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: clayop on April 12, 2015, 02:20:03 am
This project is huge and will have great impacts on both crypto and non-crypto world. Just my 2 cents.  :P
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: callmeluc on April 12, 2015, 03:29:03 am
Big thing 2.0? :'(
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: bytemaster on April 12, 2015, 03:42:53 am
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15692.0.html
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: btswildpig on April 12, 2015, 03:52:41 am
I suspect you were the guy who wrote " Cryptsy is gonna enlist BTS" in the last year .
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: networker on April 12, 2015, 04:01:01 am
   你的发言让我想起了stan,极度鼓舞人心,但最终结果很让人失望,很高兴stan有了一个接班人!
    Your speech reminds me of Stan, very inspiring, but at  the end result is very disappointing, glad to know stan has a successor!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: cube on April 12, 2015, 04:05:09 am
   你的发言让我想起了stan,极度鼓舞人心,但最终结果很让人失望,很高兴stan有了一个接班人!
    Your speech reminds me of Stan, very inspiring, but at  the end result is very disappointing, glad to know stan has a successor!

The same 'secret sauce'. The same 'something is happening behind the scene'.  The same over-promising.  Yes. Sounds like the same person.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: xiahui135 on April 12, 2015, 04:31:36 am
i also feel the original post is over-promised. We should accept the fact, learn and adapt.
I do not affraid the price drop for now, if we finally find a way, it will go up.
   你的发言让我想起了stan,极度鼓舞人心,但最终结果很让人失望,很高兴stan有了一个接班人!
    Your speech reminds me of Stan, very inspiring, but at  the end result is very disappointing, glad to know stan has a successor!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: NewMine on April 12, 2015, 05:00:13 am
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.

How surprising of you. Who do you work for anyway? I hope you charge well for your trolling services.

Says the pretend marketeer.

Who do you work for? Some resort doing marketing because a smash and crash facebook campaign for what was it exactly? You have no marketing degree, but you think because you know what SEO means you are an experienced marketing guru. You have only been here a few months and your stake has largely been handed to you which is why we get the nonchalant attitude when price drops from the likes of you. Like the food stamper who buys lobster and cashes their welfare checks for absurd amounts of fees, you don't have real skin in the game. So it's easy for you to shrug off a loss of investment that you didn't really earn.

Quit your twitter and Facebook annoyances and pie in the sky attitude when the sky is actually and truly falling on those who spent their hard earned money on an idea that has pivoted so many times, he creators can't even remember what they were originally doing here.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: xeroc on April 12, 2015, 10:45:44 am
quick guess: the OP is domsch and announces bithaus/nxthaus?! <very wild GUESS>
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: betax on April 12, 2015, 10:49:21 am
quick guess: the OP is domsch and announces bithaus/nxthaus?! <very wild GUESS>

Xeroc you are good!! what a memory :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: xeroc on April 12, 2015, 10:51:20 am
quick guess: the OP is domsch and announces bithaus/nxthaus?! <very wild GUESS>

Xeroc you are good!! what a memory :)
Rumors say domach is still actively working on this even though not giving public updates .. DO consider this rumors .. not an investmend advice!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: betax on April 12, 2015, 10:55:38 am
quick guess: the OP is domsch and announces bithaus/nxthaus?! <very wild GUESS>

Xeroc you are good!! what a memory :)
Rumors say domach is still actively working on this even though not giving public updates .. DO consider this rumors .. not an investmend advice!

Is ok what I have invested (...) is going for the long run now. :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: CLains on April 12, 2015, 11:00:37 am
quick guess: the OP is domsch and announces bithaus/nxthaus?! <very wild GUESS>

Xeroc you are good!! what a memory :)

haha yeha, that's a brilliant guess
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: radbll on April 12, 2015, 11:08:14 am
https://youtu.be/fDfNoCjtXvQ
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on April 12, 2015, 11:35:44 am
quick guess: the OP is domsch and announces bithaus/nxthaus?! <very wild GUESS>

Xeroc you are good!! what a memory :)
Rumors say domach is still actively working on this even though not giving public updates .. DO consider this rumors .. not an investmend advice!

I'd never heard of domsch until now, but it looks like he's fairly keen on nxt. Latest update from him on the nxt forums just 3 days ago:

Quote
...we are right now just waiting for confirmation from our attorney to receive our Terms of Services for him - then we will be able to softlaunch the platform. We have completed penetration testing and should be good to go after we have the TOS in place :)

We will definitely try our best for PayExpo ;)

Sounds like they're very close to launch. Not sure if BTS is involved in any way though.

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/bithaus-the-very-first-nxt-fiat-exchange-is-near!/360/
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: mdj on April 12, 2015, 12:39:14 pm
My honest to god hope is about a 50% dip in price right before we launch this. 

Seriously? That's your real hope? Yet you spread this hype which looks like a clear attempt to try and raise the price...

I'd love to believe you but I just can't sorry, I like my facts.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: fuzzy on April 12, 2015, 12:49:01 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.

How surprising of you. Who do you work for anyway? I hope you charge well for your trolling services.

Says the pretend marketeer.

Who do you work for? Some resort doing marketing because a smash and crash facebook campaign for what was it exactly? You have no marketing degree, but you think because you know what SEO means you are an experienced marketing guru. You have only been here a few months and your stake has largely been handed to you which is why we get the nonchalant attitude when price drops from the likes of you. Like the food stamper who buys lobster and cashes their welfare checks for absurd amounts of fees, you don't have real skin in the game. So it's easy for you to shrug off a loss of investment that you didn't really earn.

Quit your twitter and Facebook annoyances and pie in the sky attitude when the sky is actually and truly falling on those who spent their hard earned money on an idea that has pivoted so many times, he creators can't even remember what they were originally doing here.

Hey newmine.  Let's try to settle this seemingly endless well of anger and negativity I think you have gotten caught up in? 

Let's get you starting to attend hangouts.  You can tell everyone who you are and what you do.  Give them the story behind why you joined BitShares and then can answer some community questions like the delegates and devs do.  I think it would be very valuable for many of us to get to know the real you and how you have so much experience in crypto, marketing and pretty much everything else.  It has saddened me to a degree that you have made yourself such an outsider and I would personally like to help you overcome this so you can get back to being a part of our community who is focused on solving problems as opposed to inciting anger toward people who honestly do not deserve it.

There are better ways to do things, and I think mumble would be a far more productive place for you to speak your mind.  More importantly...it would help people take you seriously.  I hope we can help you because I'd hate to see you eventually leave the community in anger that none of your opinions ever get considered...

I think the main reason none of your posts are taken seriously is because your weakest point is interpersonal communication (there is nothing wrong with this, of course, unless you want people to take you seriously).  This is a great opportunity for yourself and for the entire community to grow.  I hope you will accept it. :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: Stan on April 12, 2015, 01:09:33 pm
can't tell if Stan or Newmine
Definitely not me and I don't believe this shit story one bit. Probably Stan or someone who is really hurting because they kept buying more and more as the price dropped, like Ander.

How surprising of you. Who do you work for anyway? I hope you charge well for your trolling services.

Says the pretend marketeer.

Who do you work for? Some resort doing marketing because a smash and crash facebook campaign for what was it exactly? You have no marketing degree, but you think because you know what SEO means you are an experienced marketing guru. You have only been here a few months and your stake has largely been handed to you which is why we get the nonchalant attitude when price drops from the likes of you. Like the food stamper who buys lobster and cashes their welfare checks for absurd amounts of fees, you don't have real skin in the game. So it's easy for you to shrug off a loss of investment that you didn't really earn.

Quit your twitter and Facebook annoyances and pie in the sky attitude when the sky is actually and truly falling on those who spent their hard earned money on an idea that has pivoted so many times, he creators can't even remember what they were originally doing here.

Ha!  I knew I recognized this technique from somewhere!

From Wikipedia:  Magical Creatures in Harry Potter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_creatures_in_Harry_Potter)

Quote
Dementors

The dementors are "soulless creatures... among the foulest beings on Earth": a phantom species who, as their name suggests, gradually deprive human minds of happiness and intelligence. They are the guards of the wizard prison, Azkaban, until after the return of antagonist Lord Voldemort.

In the Harry Potter books, dementors have a generally human shape, approximately 3 metres (10 feet) in height, covered in dark, hooded cloaks that reveal only their decayed-looking hands. Beneath the cloak, dementors are eyeless, and the only feature of note is the perpetually indrawn breath, by which they consume the emotions and good memories of human beings, forcing the victim to relive its worst memories alone. According to the author, dementors grow like fungi in dark, moist places, creating a dense, chilly fog. Although they are implied to be sentient, this is left ambiguous. The presence of a dementor makes the surrounding atmosphere grow cold and dark, and the effects are cumulative with the number of dementors present. The culmination of their power is the 'Dementor's Kiss', wherein the dementor latches its mouth onto a victim's lips and consumes its soul or psyche, presumably to leave the victim in a vegetative state.

(http://i.gyazo.com/e3b7b647d8246372b0b2c26257de40fa.png)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: betax on April 12, 2015, 01:54:42 pm
I do not object to Newmine's posts, in the same way I don't object to Tony's, I actually welcome them. Criticism is always important, and is for a reason.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: liondani on April 12, 2015, 02:21:55 pm
I do not object to Newmine's posts, in the same way I don't object to Tony's, I actually welcome them. Criticism is always important, and is for a reason.
Yep, if you want to be honest, the most of what they said until now is true! Of course reality hearts most times, and we don't want to accept/face it...
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 12, 2015, 03:41:39 pm
quick guess: the OP is domsch and announces bithaus/nxthaus?! <very wild GUESS>

Xeroc you are good!! what a memory :)
Rumors say domach is still actively working on this even though not giving public updates .. DO consider this rumors .. not an investmend advice!

I'd never heard of domsch until now, but it looks like he's fairly keen on nxt. Latest update from him on the nxt forums just 3 days ago:

Quote
...we are right now just waiting for confirmation from our attorney to receive our Terms of Services for him - then we will be able to softlaunch the platform. We have completed penetration testing and should be good to go after we have the TOS in place :)

We will definitely try our best for PayExpo ;)

Sounds like they're very close to launch. Not sure if BTS is involved in any way though.

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/bithaus-the-very-first-nxt-fiat-exchange-is-near!/360/

No I'm not dormsch, and it's not a BTS/NXT fiat gateway.  Well actually I guess it could function as a BTS/FIAT & FIAT/BTS gateway since it involves ATMs.  Not the core of the thing though, that's just a surface bit.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: btswildpig on April 12, 2015, 03:42:42 pm
hello , sfinder  ? ? ?
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 12, 2015, 06:00:47 pm
hello , sfinder  ? ? ?

New to the community here. 
Not a sock puppet or alt for any other account. 
Not really sure how to prove it though.
Maybe look at some of my other posts?
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: bitmeat on April 12, 2015, 06:36:06 pm
Wow to be able to use BTS in ATM, it will need to be able to check andupdate hard forks on a daily basis... Which seems scary and risky but good luck. Hopefully bts protocol will stabilize and be able to be integrated in hardware more easily going forward.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: bitmeat on April 12, 2015, 06:37:28 pm
In fact I think the lack of adoption is lack of certainty in the protocol, and it's hard to innovate if you set the protocol in stone.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on April 12, 2015, 06:37:41 pm
hello , sfinder  ? ? ?

New to the community here. 
Not a sock puppet or alt for any other account. 
Not really sure how to prove it though.
Maybe look at some of my other posts?

I actually believe you, for what it's worth. I saw your posts on the "programmer" and "help wanted" threads -- you clearly know what you're talking about. I wouldn't believe you if you had just made the OP then disappeared. If this is all a ruse it's a fairly complex one. If you're just trolling, then you'd be a very persistent troll, heh.

This and BM's upcoming whitepaper suddenly have me very excited for BTS in April.

Here's to hopefully seeing something awesome in the coming weeks.

(I am curious how ATMs could tie into the whole thing though.....)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 12, 2015, 09:47:27 pm
hello , sfinder  ? ? ?

New to the community here. 
Not a sock puppet or alt for any other account. 
Not really sure how to prove it though.
Maybe look at some of my other posts?

I actually believe you, for what it's worth. I saw your posts on the "programmer" and "help wanted" threads -- you clearly know what you're talking about. I wouldn't believe you if you had just made the OP then disappeared. If this is all a ruse it's a fairly complex one. If you're just trolling, then you'd be a very persistent troll, heh.

This and BM's upcoming whitepaper suddenly have me very excited for BTS in April.

Here's to hopefully seeing something awesome in the coming weeks.

(I am curious how ATMs could tie into the whole thing though.....)

Believe me when I say I'm itching to tell you. 
If there isn't an official announce ready to roll by the 17th, I'll be back here running my own yap and just deal with any fallout.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: betax on April 13, 2015, 09:10:25 am
Ok so on Friday we will have an official announcement :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: fuzzy on April 13, 2015, 11:34:30 am
I do not object to Newmine's posts, in the same way I don't object to Tony's, I actually welcome them. Criticism is always important, and is for a reason.
Yep, if you want to be honest, the most of what they said until now is true! Of course reality hearts most times, and we don't want to accept/face it...

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but it is important to note that actually the accuracy of what Newmine has said is negligible at best.  Some of the delegates he has called out were delegates likely needing voted out, but that does not mean that his words do not hurt/hinder the community. 

I want proof of what he says because most everything I personally see behind the scenes directly refutes it. 
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: fuzzy on April 13, 2015, 11:35:35 am
hello , sfinder  ? ? ?

New to the community here. 
Not a sock puppet or alt for any other account. 
Not really sure how to prove it though.
Maybe look at some of my other posts?

I actually believe you, for what it's worth. I saw your posts on the "programmer" and "help wanted" threads -- you clearly know what you're talking about. I wouldn't believe you if you had just made the OP then disappeared. If this is all a ruse it's a fairly complex one. If you're just trolling, then you'd be a very persistent troll, heh.

This and BM's upcoming whitepaper suddenly have me very excited for BTS in April.

Here's to hopefully seeing something awesome in the coming weeks.

(I am curious how ATMs could tie into the whole thing though.....)

Believe me when I say I'm itching to tell you. 
If there isn't an official announce ready to roll by the 17th, I'll be back here running my own yap and just deal with any fallout.

If it is not safe to open up about it early on, then please consider keeping a lid on it until such a time when it is safe to do so.  I would prefer noone have to deal with "fallout" :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 13, 2015, 02:12:04 pm
hello , sfinder  ? ? ?

New to the community here. 
Not a sock puppet or alt for any other account. 
Not really sure how to prove it though.
Maybe look at some of my other posts?

I actually believe you, for what it's worth. I saw your posts on the "programmer" and "help wanted" threads -- you clearly know what you're talking about. I wouldn't believe you if you had just made the OP then disappeared. If this is all a ruse it's a fairly complex one. If you're just trolling, then you'd be a very persistent troll, heh.

This and BM's upcoming whitepaper suddenly have me very excited for BTS in April.

Here's to hopefully seeing something awesome in the coming weeks.

(I am curious how ATMs could tie into the whole thing though.....)

Believe me when I say I'm itching to tell you. 
If there isn't an official announce ready to roll by the 17th, I'll be back here running my own yap and just deal with any fallout.

If it is not safe to open up about it early on, then please consider keeping a lid on it until such a time when it is safe to do so.  I would prefer noone have to deal with "fallout" :)

It's relative.  Fallout here would be more along the lines of "Hey look we are going to offer x,y & z!" then finding out there was some legal or technical reason why despite having x, or y we couldn't do z.

Here is a real example and as CIO I can actually discuss this bit.

An absolutely crucial component of our business model relies on the ability to buy & sell bitUSD & other bitassets directly on the decentralized exchange.  Right now, the ability to purchase bitUSD and several other assets appears to be broken.  If it's not fixed by Friday then we will not be able to launch this thing period.

I am excited that we will be able to offer these things, but the tech needs to be in place and reliable enough to pull it off, or our business model falls down.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: liondani on April 13, 2015, 02:21:16 pm
If they fixed it by Monday  or 10 days later what then?  Please don't proof yourself as a troll....

PS but the question remains @bytemaster  and @vikram :  " When do you estimate you publish a fix update"

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: fuzzy on April 13, 2015, 03:02:26 pm
If they fixed it by Monday  or 10 days later what then?  Please don't proof yourself as a troll....

PS but the question remains @bytemaster  and @vikram :  " When do you estimate you publish a fix update"

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

Troll is relative too :)

I am comfortable that bitshares will work out. ...though there might be some shaky times interspersing the path to that end point.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: btswildpig on April 13, 2015, 03:05:18 pm
If they fixed it by Monday  or 10 days later what then?  Please don't proof yourself as a troll....

PS but the question remains @bytemaster  and @vikram :  " When do you estimate you publish a fix update"

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

the bug still there waiting for next fix release .
but the situation that enabled the bug has been mitigated . Huge volume on the BitUSD:BTS market today ...
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 13, 2015, 03:38:19 pm
If they fixed it by Monday  or 10 days later what then?  Please don't proof yourself as a troll....

PS but the question remains @bytemaster  and @vikram :  " When do you estimate you publish a fix update"

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

the bug still there waiting for next fix release .
but the situation that enabled the bug has been mitigated . Huge volume on the BitUSD:BTS market today ...

I bought a bunch of BTS by dumping a bunch of BTC & NXT etc over at BTER this morning, moved it to my wallet to buy bitUSD.  Is there a fix somewhere, because my orders are still not executing.

Thanks!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: svk on April 13, 2015, 04:51:53 pm
If they fixed it by Monday  or 10 days later what then?  Please don't proof yourself as a troll....

PS but the question remains @bytemaster  and @vikram :  " When do you estimate you publish a fix update"

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

the bug still there waiting for next fix release .
but the situation that enabled the bug has been mitigated . Huge volume on the BitUSD:BTS market today ...

I bought a bunch of BTS by dumping a bunch of BTC & NXT etc over at BTER this morning, moved it to my wallet to buy bitUSD.  Is there a fix somewhere, because my orders are still not executing.

Thanks!

bitUSD/BTS market is working just fine right now, all the cover orders that were causing the bug and making the market stuck have been cleared up. Same goes for bitBTC/BTS market.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 13, 2015, 04:54:11 pm
If they fixed it by Monday  or 10 days later what then?  Please don't proof yourself as a troll....

PS but the question remains @bytemaster  and @vikram :  " When do you estimate you publish a fix update"

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

the bug still there waiting for next fix release .
but the situation that enabled the bug has been mitigated . Huge volume on the BitUSD:BTS market today ...

I bought a bunch of BTS by dumping a bunch of BTC & NXT etc over at BTER this morning, moved it to my wallet to buy bitUSD.  Is there a fix somewhere, because my orders are still not executing.

Thanks!

bitUSD/BTS market is working just fine right now, all the cover orders that were causing the bug and making the market stuck have been cleared up. Same goes for bitBTC/BTS market.

Yeah, thanks for that.  I say the orders go through about 10 mins after I posted my last message.
Awesome and glad to see it working.
Thanks to everyone who worked hard to fix it!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: svk on April 13, 2015, 04:55:26 pm
If they fixed it by Monday  or 10 days later what then?  Please don't proof yourself as a troll....

PS but the question remains @bytemaster  and @vikram :  " When do you estimate you publish a fix update"

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

the bug still there waiting for next fix release .
but the situation that enabled the bug has been mitigated . Huge volume on the BitUSD:BTS market today ...

I bought a bunch of BTS by dumping a bunch of BTC & NXT etc over at BTER this morning, moved it to my wallet to buy bitUSD.  Is there a fix somewhere, because my orders are still not executing.

Thanks!

bitUSD/BTS market is working just fine right now, all the cover orders that were causing the bug and making the market stuck have been cleared up. Same goes for bitBTC/BTS market.

Yeah, thanks for that.  I say the orders go through about 10 mins after I posted my last message.
Awesome and glad to see it working.
Thanks to everyone who worked hard to fix it!

Thank the whale who decided to clear it up by selling off ~200k bitUSD :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: liondani on April 13, 2015, 06:44:48 pm
Thank the whale who decided to clear it up by selling off ~200k bitUSD :)

time to support BTS prize(?)  :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: oldman on April 13, 2015, 11:31:27 pm
The cynicism is strong in this community!

Bitshares is a potentially revolutionary platform that has yet to take its first steps into the world. It hasn't even left the womb yet.

But folks are noticing.

Market cap in a thinly traded and immature market such as this is meaningless.

I would expect a number of these type of announcements over the next two years...
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: xeroc on April 14, 2015, 05:47:05 am
I would expect a number of these type of announcements over the next two years... quartals
FIFY  :P
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: alt on April 17, 2015, 11:06:20 am
where is the announce?

hello , sfinder  ? ? ?

New to the community here. 
Not a sock puppet or alt for any other account. 
Not really sure how to prove it though.
Maybe look at some of my other posts?

I actually believe you, for what it's worth. I saw your posts on the "programmer" and "help wanted" threads -- you clearly know what you're talking about. I wouldn't believe you if you had just made the OP then disappeared. If this is all a ruse it's a fairly complex one. If you're just trolling, then you'd be a very persistent troll, heh.

This and BM's upcoming whitepaper suddenly have me very excited for BTS in April.

Here's to hopefully seeing something awesome in the coming weeks.

(I am curious how ATMs could tie into the whole thing though.....)

Believe me when I say I'm itching to tell you. 
If there isn't an official announce ready to roll by the 17th, I'll be back here running my own yap and just deal with any fallout.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: xeroc on April 17, 2015, 11:08:00 am
where is the announce?
That guys seems to be from the U.S. .. it's barely in the morning there :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: alt on April 17, 2015, 11:10:35 am
where is the announce?
That guys seems to be from the U.S. .. it's barely in the morning there :)
I don't want to sleep before I can see the announce  :)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: lastagile on April 17, 2015, 12:53:44 pm
it must be another disposing lie


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on April 17, 2015, 02:24:16 pm
it must be another disposing lie


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk

Quit being ridiculous and remember that China is eternally half a day ahead of the rest of the world...

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15756.msg202594.html#msg202594

Tells you what you need to know.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: bitmeat on April 18, 2015, 01:17:13 am
(http://i.imgur.com/KWRaFjl.jpg)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: lastagile on April 18, 2015, 05:00:17 am
nothing happens right?


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: onceuponatime on April 18, 2015, 05:01:20 am
nothing happens right?


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk

Nothing happened that I can see.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: btswildpig on April 18, 2015, 06:06:35 am
 +5% +5% +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 18, 2015, 01:00:47 pm
it must be another disposing lie


从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk

Quit being ridiculous and remember that China is eternally half a day ahead of the rest of the world...

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15756.msg202594.html#msg202594

Tells you what you need to know.

Actually here now...
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15806.0.html

Also, despite the Chinese name here, I'm a mix of asian, european and native american ancestry. 
But I live in San Diego.

Sorry so short but the explanation for tardiness is included in link. 
Also when I ask to refrain from questions in that link I really meant to say, please don't expect an answer to any questions until Monday.  Just couldn't think of a way to turn the phrase given the context of the sentence.  You may in fact ask away in there.  I probably won't be able to check this particular thread for awhile.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 18, 2015, 01:02:49 pm
http://i.imgur.com/KWRaFjl.jpg

classic  +5%
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 18, 2015, 01:03:59 pm
I'm a mix of asian, european and native american ancestry. 

aren't we all at this point?  ;)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: hpenvy2 on April 18, 2015, 09:48:57 pm
Isn't it already obvious? They are pooling their money and hiring a new Marketing Director.  ;)
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 19, 2015, 10:57:19 pm
Isn't it already obvious? They are pooling their money and hiring a new Marketing Director.  ;)

That could not possibly have been more prescient.
Would you happen to know of anyone interested in the job?
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: zerosum on April 19, 2015, 11:04:06 pm
Isn't it already obvious? They are pooling their money and hiring a new Marketing Director.  ;)

That could not possibly have been more prescient.
Would you happen to know of anyone interested in the job?

That's the most pressing post you decided to respond to? ... with your 20h work days and all.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on April 19, 2015, 11:04:44 pm
I'm a mix of asian, european and native american ancestry. 

aren't we all at this point?  ;)

 +5%
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 19, 2015, 11:14:02 pm
Isn't it already obvious? They are pooling their money and hiring a new Marketing Director.  ;)

That could not possibly have been more prescient.
Would you happen to know of anyone interested in the job?

That's the most pressing post you decided to respond to? ... with your 20h work days and all.

Did I miss something?  And yes it was the first thing I noticed that seemed relevant.  We need someone in marketing so I can spend more time coding, less time yapping.  I haven't seen any actual questions posed to me though, so I fail to see where I need to respond.  Possibly I shouldn't be handling marketing.

Also, not my first post of the day.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: Tuck Fheman on April 20, 2015, 12:49:11 pm
After listening to the latest hangout I'd have to say OP is not messing around here.
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: tsaishen on April 20, 2015, 02:53:09 pm
After listening to the latest hangout I'd have to say OP is not messing around here.

Thank You!
Title: Re: To everyone complaining about the current BTS price...
Post by: Ben Mason on April 20, 2015, 03:06:14 pm
GEMspace sounds absolutely awesome  +5%