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Main => Technical Support => Topic started by: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 02:17:37 am

Title: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 02:17:37 am
I've had some expired shorts sitting in the system for about two months....will they eventually auto-cover? Will I have to buy BitUSD to pay off the debt? If I pay off the debt will the system send back my BTS being held as collateral? I'm not sure how this works?
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: yellowecho on June 18, 2015, 02:23:46 am
To my knowledge...

will they eventually auto-cover?

Yes, if the BitUSD hits the feed price.

Will I have to buy BitUSD to pay off the debt?

Only if you want to cover your position.

If I pay off the debt will the system send back my BTS being held as collateral?

Yup.
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 02:26:36 am
If which BitUSD hits the feed price?

If I shorted BitUSD when BTS was lower..and now it's twice as high...what would prevent it from covering?
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: pc on June 18, 2015, 06:51:44 am
If which BitUSD hits the feed price?

If I shorted BitUSD when BTS was lower..and now it's twice as high...what would prevent it from covering?

It will cover at the feed price, i. e. when someone sells BitUSD at the feed price.
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: jsidhu on June 18, 2015, 07:49:22 am
The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: evolvo on June 18, 2015, 06:36:05 pm
interesting...
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: lil_jay890 on June 18, 2015, 06:40:24 pm
The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.

I believe that shorts are auto covered based on expiration date.  That is what I have noticed as the buywall has slowly been eaten into.
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: tonyk on June 18, 2015, 06:51:39 pm
The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.

I believe that shorts are auto covered based on expiration date.  That is what I have noticed as the buywall has slowly been eaten into.

you guys are endless optimists... they are covered based on the most logical criteria of all - alphabetic order of the account/key.

Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: liondani on June 19, 2015, 08:08:13 am
The big 5 million bts wall at the call price are expired shorts waiting to be filled like yours. It's in order of short margin call price Lower to higher I believe. Once it auto covers u should get it back im also waiting.

I believe that shorts are auto covered based on expiration date.  That is what I have noticed as the buywall has slowly been eaten into.

you guys are endless optimists... they are covered based on the most logical criteria of all - alphabetic order of the account/key.
Lol

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Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on June 19, 2015, 01:05:13 pm
haha @tonyk ...but what's the real answer? are shorts covered in order of call price or expiration date???
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: pc on June 19, 2015, 01:13:59 pm
IIRC covers are ordered by their margin call limit, and orders with identical limits are in fact ordered by their owner address.
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: Riverhead on June 19, 2015, 01:25:26 pm


you guys are endless optimists... they are covered based on the most logical criteria of all - alphabetic order of the account/key.


He's not joking. This was covered in a mumble session some time back.

IIRC covers are ordered by their margin call limit, and orders with identical limits are in fact ordered by their owner address.
Title: Re: What happens to expired shorts?
Post by: cylonmaker2053 on June 19, 2015, 01:59:04 pm
IIRC covers are ordered by their margin call limit, and orders with identical limits are in fact ordered by their owner address.

LOL oh ok, well at least it's within the same order limit bundles :)

too bad the secondary ranking isn't done by expiration date! maybe an easy fix for future update?