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Title: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: Method-X on September 02, 2014, 05:18:50 pm
I'm working on a "What is BitShares?" infographic and would like some input.

EDIT: Here is the final version:

(http://i.imgur.com/DnEPmFu.png)

Download the .PSD (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2x8jlsxlqbmr7z3/what-is-bitsharesx.psd?dl=0)

(consider this infographic open source, with full GNU rights)
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Post by: CLains on September 02, 2014, 07:05:06 pm
Great start. :)

I would say "Price stability" instead of just "stability." And delete the "all" after the plus sign.
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Post by: Riverhead on September 02, 2014, 07:13:22 pm
Great initiative.  Couple things:

1) The first point I think we can do without the slam on Mt. Gox. Though well deserved.
2) I don't think we should bate hackers with a challenge like ,"Cannot be hacked" :)

I think it suffices to say something like, "It is a decentralized derivatives exchange that solves many of the security issues inherent in centralized exchanges. Mainly that bad actors at a centralized exchange may steal funds and centralized exchanges are a big target for hackers. With BitShares your funds are always stored securely on the blockchain."
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: santaclause102 on September 02, 2014, 07:46:29 pm
Good initiative!

I would categorize by it's functions:
1) It's a trading platform
2) It's an exchange
3) It's a vault
4) It provides crypto currencies with built in price stability

Other functions?
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Post by: xeroc on September 02, 2014, 07:49:35 pm
the right website to reference is
bitshares-x.info and NOT bitshares.org!!
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: Method-X on September 02, 2014, 07:59:22 pm
the right website to reference is
bitshares-x.info and NOT bitshares.org!!

Wow... the BitShares branding is terrible. Who's running the marketing show here?

Suggestion: client should be downloadable at x.bitshares.org -- not a seperate URL that's ugly as all hell.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: xeroc on September 02, 2014, 08:11:28 pm
Suggestion: client should be downloadable at x.bitshares.org -- not a seperate URL that's ugly as all hell.
that is not going for legal reasons ... bitsharesX is maintained by dacsunlimited .. not by bitshares.org
please inform yourself about the terminology!
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: Method-X on September 02, 2014, 08:18:03 pm
Suggestion: client should be downloadable at x.bitshares.org -- not a seperate URL that's ugly as all hell.
that is not going for legal reasons ... bitsharesX is maintained by dacsunlimited .. not by bitshares.org
please inform yourself about the terminology!

When the banding matrix is so complex that average users cannot understand it, is it their fault because they're stupid and haven't informed themselves about the terminology or is it the companies fault for not understanding the average user?
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: bobmaloney on September 02, 2014, 08:33:14 pm
When the banding matrix is so complex that average users cannot understand it, is it their fault because they're stupid and haven't informed themselves about the terminology or is it the companies fault for not understanding the average user?

This is where infographics like yours can help.
Title: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: bitbro on September 02, 2014, 08:43:42 pm
Near 0 costs for transactions. Compare to Visa debit card fees and Scott trade fees

Mass adoption will drive down %markup for fees esp for small transactions like coffee thus reducing costs for businesses and consumers

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Post by: Method-X on September 02, 2014, 09:24:17 pm
Near 0 costs for transactions. Compare to Visa debit card fees and Scott trade fees

Mass adoption will drive down %markup for fees esp for small transactions like coffee thus reducing costs for businesses and consumers

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Very good observation. What you're saying is that trading using BitShares Exchange is near zero fees; similar to how Chinese exchanges operate on the zero fee model to drive user adoption. BitShares offers near zero trading fees + all coins/assets stay on the blockchain (secure, trustless).
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: oco101 on September 02, 2014, 10:28:37 pm
I think we should be careful with the "Transaction is anonymous. Nobody can see you balance ... "  As for now transaction are as anonymous as bitcoin and "Transactions still combine inputs and send the "change" back to the address the funds came from"
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Post by: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 10:40:01 pm
I'm working on a "What is BitShares?" infographic and would like some input.

I've identified 3 main benefits:

  • Exchange decentralization.
  • Transaction anonymity.
  • Stability.

(http://i.imgur.com/olcHuPm.png)

Download the PSD (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2x8jlsxlqbmr7z3/what-is-bitsharesx.psd?dl=0)

Copy the color background here http://bitshares.org/vision/ without the heart or make your own image, if you choose or have that capability.
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Post by: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 10:41:15 pm
Furthermore, maybe say

"A Currency that pays you interest, just for holding it."    (do not say no banks needed (need other peoples opinions)
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: cass on September 02, 2014, 11:01:46 pm
(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?
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Post by: carpet ride on September 02, 2014, 11:05:47 pm
MethodX - Please bullet this.

The first ever information market, BitShares X will create an entirely new financial platform that will in turn create jobs and opportunities that the world has never before seen.

Also, we won't be trading "crypto" we trade information assets or info assets
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Post by: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 11:07:36 pm
Moderator Cass,

Please do note promise 5% and we fail say 0.5% - 2%  We can not fail sir.  We can not push the envelope and fail like Bernie Madoff.  People dont get any interest in there bank accounts right now.  The Federal Reserve Chairman Yellen is not raising interest rates till early next year, people will be excited.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: cass on September 02, 2014, 11:42:32 pm
I'm not promise something. I've shared a infogfx about BitSharesX.
I wasn't in charge of design etc..
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: eagleeye on September 02, 2014, 11:51:51 pm
I'm not promise something. I've shared a infogfx about BitSharesX.
I wasn't in charge of design etc..

Promise nothing, deliver everything.

The design is good, we just need the background to be like http://www.bitshares.org/faq/.  Ive been an Internet addict for 15/16 years, ive never seen that background before.  Im sure bitshares.org would not mind if we used it.
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Post by: Method-X on September 03, 2014, 12:29:27 am
Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey cass thanks for posting this, I haven't seen it. The design is nice but I'm not a fan of the 5% interest it advertises. It's not the right hook for the demographic BTSX should be targeting. My infographic is meant to capture the interest of an experienced trader. I think that's really who we appeal most to. Traders will understand the value proposition BTSX offers.

Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: eagleeye on September 03, 2014, 01:17:12 am
Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey cass thanks for posting this, I haven't seen it. The design is nice but I'm not a fan of the 5% interest it advertises. It's not the right hook for the demographic BTSX should be targeting. My infographic is meant to capture the interest of an experienced trader. I think that's really who we appeal most to. Traders will understand the value proposition BTSX offers.

What if we advertise 5% interest and we cant deliver, and the government sues the company and distracts the company due to false advertising?  Im just saying.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: bitbro on September 03, 2014, 01:19:14 am

Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey cass thanks for posting this, I haven't seen it. The design is nice but I'm not a fan of the 5% interest it advertises. It's not the right hook for the demographic BTSX should be targeting. My infographic is meant to capture the interest of an experienced trader. I think that's really who we appeal most to. Traders will understand the value proposition BTSX offers.

What if we advertise 5% interest and we cant deliver, and the government sues the company and distracts the company due to false advertising?  Im just saying.

Will a moderator put this guy on auto ignore


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Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: eagleeye on September 03, 2014, 04:31:53 am

Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey cass thanks for posting this, I haven't seen it. The design is nice but I'm not a fan of the 5% interest it advertises. It's not the right hook for the demographic BTSX should be targeting. My infographic is meant to capture the interest of an experienced trader. I think that's really who we appeal most to. Traders will understand the value proposition BTSX offers.

What if we advertise 5% interest and we cant deliver, and the government sues the company and distracts the company due to false advertising?  Im just saying.

Will a moderator put this guy on auto ignore


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Thanks, look at the idea dude.  Look at the reasons why bitcoins are distracted, the foundation, the people who started it are distracted due to lawsuits. 
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: xeroc on September 03, 2014, 06:44:18 am
Thanks, look at the idea dude.  Look at the reasons why bitcoins are distracted, the foundation, the people who started it are distracted due to lawsuits.
The people how started bitcoin are either gone or dead .. the people today are split in political parties (foundation) and developers (gavin etc..) just like bitshares, bitsharesx and bitshares_toolkit

You just cannot exist on the big market without following legal rules.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: santaclause102 on September 03, 2014, 07:40:04 am
Hey did you noticed this here?

The design is nice but I'm not a fan of the 5% interest it advertises.
Cass just did the design I assume. But I agree that offering 5% without having a working product that proves it looks like a scam.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: cass on September 03, 2014, 07:55:04 am
I wasn't in charge of design etc..

 :P
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 03, 2014, 08:09:20 am
I wasn't in charge of design etc..

 :P
No? :)  I thought you said wasn't by mistake as you normally are in charge of pretty much every design...
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Post by: serejandmyself on September 08, 2014, 06:46:46 am
I can offer to translate those into russian when you done if you want
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Post by: James212 on September 08, 2014, 12:29:16 pm
Updated version.

(http://i.imgur.com/7on6Pbk.png)

Methodx, great job.   A few suggestions: I would change the word "Anonymous" to "Private".  It gives a more positive connotation and less ominous/aggressive.     To me "Private" is the simple natural state of being,  while being "Anonymous" denotes and active tempt to evade.   Also Keeping in mind that the intention is for this message to reach the largest amount of people, I would suggest keeping the terminology a bit more universal:   Changing the word "Crypto" to "Digital Currency"  and "Blockchain" to "Public Ledger" would help in this objective IMHO.     

Then again, if this is just for the Crypto Community, strike my last two suggestions.


PS: on point #3, suggest to change "price stability with derivative assets" to "price stable derivative assets"
      on point #4, "Near 0% fees"  is kind of confusing.  Is it zero fees or not zero fees?
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: GaltReport on September 08, 2014, 02:27:25 pm
Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey cass thanks for posting this, I haven't seen it. The design is nice but I'm not a fan of the 5% interest it advertises. It's not the right hook for the demographic BTSX should be targeting. My infographic is meant to capture the interest of an experienced trader. I think that's really who we appeal most to. Traders will understand the value proposition BTSX offers.

Great work on these infographics, all involved.  I think we can and should appeal to multiple markets  and probably want different marketing material for each.  Not sure about the order though, maybe the Trader should be the first target until everything has been tested more and it's a bit easier for the casual/mass user to use but we shouldn't abandon that huge market and can work-up marketing material for both.  These can then be leveraged for website(s)/blogs/email etc...

The 5% interest (or whatever it is) would be great if and when we could include screenshots of an account with the interest shown, maybe circled in red or some such way to highlight it.
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Post by: GaltReport on September 08, 2014, 02:30:57 pm
I would like to leverage these infographics when they are done and use on my site.  Is their a central repository for them ?
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Post by: xeroc on September 08, 2014, 02:34:12 pm
put it on the wiki ...
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Post by: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 06:50:57 pm
Im having a friend add a background to that infographic (as im technically incompetent).  I hope you dont mind, lets see how it turns out.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: eagleeye on September 08, 2014, 07:12:26 pm
my friend just made this.  He lifted some stuff, and added a piece of text.  We will be doing more additions.

(http://www.earthtransformers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bitshare-ad-1024x761.jpg)

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Post by: hadrian on September 08, 2014, 07:52:25 pm
(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey, cas. I noticed on the side where 'the bank wins', the last point says "interes" instead of "interest".
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: Method-X on September 08, 2014, 09:32:02 pm

Methodx, great job.   A few suggestions: I would change the word "Anonymous" to "Private".  It gives a more positive connotation and less ominous/aggressive.     To me "Private" is the simple natural state of being,  while being "Anonymous" denotes and active tempt to evade.   Also Keeping in mind that the intention is for this message to reach the largest amount of people, I would suggest keeping the terminology a bit more universal:   Changing the word "Crypto" to "Digital Currency"  and "Blockchain" to "Public Ledger" would help in this objective IMHO.     

Then again, if this is just for the Crypto Community, strike my last two suggestions.


PS: on point #3, suggest to change "price stability with derivative assets" to "price stable derivative assets"
      on point #4, "Near 0% fees"  is kind of confusing.  Is it zero fees or not zero fees?

All great points James!

Here is my thinking: we are the innovators and we need to get the early adopters on board. So the language should be targeted at "hot buttons" specific to early adopters (i.e. bitcoin people). We're still a few years away from targeting the early majority.

I'll make the other changes you suggest.

Question: What should I say in place of 0% fees? The copywriter in me likes the "0%" lol.
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Post by: eagleeye on September 09, 2014, 01:27:54 am

Methodx, great job.   A few suggestions: I would change the word "Anonymous" to "Private".  It gives a more positive connotation and less ominous/aggressive.     To me "Private" is the simple natural state of being,  while being "Anonymous" denotes and active tempt to evade.   Also Keeping in mind that the intention is for this message to reach the largest amount of people, I would suggest keeping the terminology a bit more universal:   Changing the word "Crypto" to "Digital Currency"  and "Blockchain" to "Public Ledger" would help in this objective IMHO.     

Then again, if this is just for the Crypto Community, strike my last two suggestions.


PS: on point #3, suggest to change "price stability with derivative assets" to "price stable derivative assets"
      on point #4, "Near 0% fees"  is kind of confusing.  Is it zero fees or not zero fees?

All great points James!

Here is my thinking: we are the innovators and we need to get the early adopters on board. So the language should be targeted at "hot buttons" specific to early adopters (i.e. bitcoin people). We're still a few years away from targeting the early majority.

I'll make the other changes you suggest.

Question: What should I say in place of 0% fees? The copywriter in me likes the "0%" lol.

We only have till tomorrow night to hash something out.  My friend and me are moving, lets come up with as many MEME infographics as we can.
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Post by: James212 on September 09, 2014, 01:44:59 am

Methodx, great job.   A few suggestions: I would change the word "Anonymous" to "Private".  It gives a more positive connotation and less ominous/aggressive.     To me "Private" is the simple natural state of being,  while being "Anonymous" denotes and active tempt to evade.   Also Keeping in mind that the intention is for this message to reach the largest amount of people, I would suggest keeping the terminology a bit more universal:   Changing the word "Crypto" to "Digital Currency"  and "Blockchain" to "Public Ledger" would help in this objective IMHO.     

Then again, if this is just for the Crypto Community, strike my last two suggestions.


PS: on point #3, suggest to change "price stability with derivative assets" to "price stable derivative assets"
      on point #4, "Near 0% fees"  is kind of confusing.  Is it zero fees or not zero fees?

All great points James!

Here is my thinking: we are the innovators and we need to get the early adopters on board. So the language should be targeted at "hot buttons" specific to early adopters (i.e. bitcoin people). We're still a few years away from targeting the early majority.

I'll make the other changes you suggest.

Question: What should I say in place of 0% fees? The copywriter in me likes the "0%" lol.

Hi Mehtodx, regarding the 0% fees comment.  I am not sure the of the actual fact of fees on Bitshares, but I am assuming the fees are not 0%, since it says "Near Zero" on the ad.  I think the "Near 0%" is not as clear as we'd want to be and would suggest something more like:   " "The efficiency of the network allows for a whopping XX% reduction (savings) on trading fees when compared to most popular trading platforms"  or  "at an average fee rate of XX per trade, fees are practically nonexistent"    <--- this is just some general ideas that you can work with if you find useful. 

Let me know if I can help further.   
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Post by: James212 on September 09, 2014, 02:19:43 am
(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey, cas. I noticed on the side where 'the bank wins', the last point says "interes" instead of "interest".

Hey guys, I'm sorry I'm just coming to you now, but I just found this thread today and think I may have some useful suggestion (take what you like, leave the rest :-)

1) on the heading, i would add the word "Interest" after "5%" (or dividend(??)...though I like interest better- more universal)   Also would change "anything" to "everything"
2) on the second statement I would leave it at: "Bitshares is the first Decentralized Autonomous Company that allows you to speculate on any asset imaginable and pays interest (dividends on all you asset holdings)" <--- full stop.  at this point it is not important to explain how it is able to pay these divides 
3) In line 3 remove the word Lots as we are trying to distinguish ourselves as being better than a bank we do not want to drive home the similarities that much.  --"We are similar to your local bank in that Bitshares"   ...........(images below) 
4)To me the final section is the most important and should be presented vertically in one complete section across the entire page.  Its funning that the most important bullet points discussing the benefits of bitshares on using the smallest fonts!   make them bigger.  Also  I would lay it out something like this:

"We are similar to your local bank in that Bitshares...........(images below)"   
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HOWEVER BITSHARES IS COMPLETELY FOCUSED ON BENEFITING CUSTOMERS

- Profits are paid as dividends to shareholders- (you), instead of spent uselessly on personnel lobbying and construction
- etc
-ect
ect


*one thing regarding section 4) however you decide to lay it out, consider putting the "good" points to the left and the "bad" (traditional banking) points to the right. 
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Post by: eagleeye on September 09, 2014, 05:30:26 am
Keep it coming James.
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Post by: James212 on September 09, 2014, 08:29:26 am
my friend just made this.  He lifted some stuff, and added a piece of text.  We will be doing more additions.

(http://www.earthtransformers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bitshare-ad-1024x761.jpg)

Suggestions:

Section 1) Open a digital currency ( or money??) / asset account and earn interest on EVERYTHING you hold.  - no bank needed -. <--- or " no bank required"(???)

Section 3)
-"a non-hackable decentralized digital-asset exchange"

- Replace "anonymous".  with " private

-"a stable form of digital ( or crypto depending on audience) currency tied to real- world assets "...( or real world value??.). the stability of gold with the flexibility of digital money"
<---- ( or crypto???)
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Post by: MktDirector on September 09, 2014, 02:09:00 pm
These are looking good. Please let me know when you feel they're good enough to share and I'll get them out on social media... B
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Post by: eagleeye on September 09, 2014, 05:58:23 pm
May need someone else here to modify the infographic.  My friend may flake out today.  Go with James ideas if your going to do anything.
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Post by: cass on September 09, 2014, 08:29:29 pm
Honestly, i wouldn't sent this out ... i really like your initiative and efforts, but from design point of view it's seems not professional enough IMO. (this should sent out to 1000s of users).
But would love to polish it if you want me to assist... let me know you thoughts…
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 09, 2014, 08:36:43 pm
Honestly, i wouldn't sent this out ... i really like your initiative and efforts, but from design point of view it's seems not professional enough IMO. (this should sent out to 1000s of users).
But would love to polish it if you want me to assist... let me know you thoughts…
+5%
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Post by: Method-X on September 09, 2014, 09:27:20 pm
Honestly, i wouldn't sent this out ... i really like your initiative and efforts, but from design point of view it's seems not professional enough IMO. (this should sent out to 1000s of users).
But would love to polish it if you want me to assist... let me know you thoughts…

Which version are you referring to? I'm a minimalist and that philosophy influences my design aesthetic.
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Post by: speedy on September 09, 2014, 09:32:16 pm
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: Method-X on September 09, 2014, 10:15:07 pm
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.

I want to put that in the infographic but can I really claim 10% yield/interest? It'll end up being whatever the exchange takes in as fees, which could be anything.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: eagleeye on September 09, 2014, 10:17:09 pm
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.

I want to put that in the infographic but can I really claim 10% yield/interest? It'll end up being whatever the exchange takes in as fees, which could be anything.

Claim 0.1% to 10% interest depending on how many transactions are going on in the network.

I think everyone in this thread is helping out big time.
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Post by: eagleeye on September 09, 2014, 10:20:14 pm
Honestly, i wouldn't sent this out ... i really like your initiative and efforts, but from design point of view it's seems not professional enough IMO. (this should sent out to 1000s of users).
But would love to polish it if you want me to assist... let me know you thoughts…

Love to have you build on what we are doing (not talking for MeThoDx).  Will send out all infographics to my users.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: eagleeye on September 09, 2014, 10:35:55 pm
These are looking good. Please let me know when you feel they're good enough to share and I'll get them out on social media... B

Looking for your input if you have the time Global Moderator, MktDirector.  You are the marketing leader.
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 09, 2014, 11:54:32 pm
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.

I want to put that in the infographic but can I really claim 10% yield/interest? It'll end up being whatever the exchange takes in as fees, which could be anything.
Right, I would avoid anything that (a) can not be kept for sure or (b) is too good to be true. That always turns on the "Scam" alarm in my head.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: eagleeye on September 10, 2014, 12:54:09 am
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.

I want to put that in the infographic but can I really claim 10% yield/interest? It'll end up being whatever the exchange takes in as fees, which could be anything.
Right, I would avoid anything that (a) can not be kept for sure or (b) is too good to be true. That always turns on the "Scam" alarm in my head.

Do you have any catch phrases we could use delulo?
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Post by: James212 on September 10, 2014, 01:02:27 am
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.

I want to put that in the infographic but can I really claim 10% yield/interest? It'll end up being whatever the exchange takes in as fees, which could be anything.
Right, I would avoid anything that (a) can not be kept for sure or (b) is too good to be true. That always turns on the "Scam" alarm in my head.

If we could have some confidence that BitsharesX would get a close enough proximity to 10% I'd use it, its a great hook.  However, I don't think we have enough history to go that far out on a lim.  Maybe say something like "as much as 10%"  or " at least X% more than transitional legacy banks"  <--- just throwing out ideas.     By the way has anyone at Bitshares done a back of the envelope analysis of what they interest payments could be.  We probably can use that to back up the stated rate.     
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Post by: emailtooaj on September 10, 2014, 01:06:23 am
Not sure if this would be on topic, but what about...

Bitshares, "The New Global Economy, Secured, In One Easy App"!
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Post by: pseudoscops on September 10, 2014, 01:19:46 am
I agree with some of the sentiments expressed earlier.

This is a really worthy endeavor and I like the way the points are shaping up  +5%

Design-wise not so much, it's just not doing it for me. I know these things are subjective but it doesn't look polished or professional enough. Basically I think it needs to at least feel like it's taking a lead from the design on the site it is linking to.

I think this opens up a wider issue that the community needs to address - brand consistency and quality control of marketing material. Is there anyone in the community who acts as a kind of brand guardian who these things can be funneled through? Do we need a brand book? Even a basic one (i.e. which fonts and point sizes to use, what color palette, use of logos etc etc). If not do we perhaps need a person/team with the right skills who will take ownership?

I'm not a designer, but I have experience that I might be able to lend to such a team if people thought it was a good idea to set one up. I also think things like taglines really need to be thought about very carefully and voted upon by the community before being bandied about externally. How can we democratically handle this. My intention is not to offend, just to improve things  :)

Thoughts....
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Post by: eagleeye on September 10, 2014, 01:32:02 am
I agree with some of the sentiments expressed earlier.

This is a really worthy endeavor and I like the way the points are shaping up  +5%

Design-wise not so much, it's just not doing it for me. I know these things are subjective but it doesn't look polished or professional enough. Basically I think it needs to at least feel like it's taking a lead from the design on the site it is linking to.

I think this opens up a wider issue that the community needs to address - brand consistency and quality control of marketing material. Is there anyone in the community who acts as a kind of brand guardian who these things can be funneled through? Do we need a brand book? Even a basic one (i.e. which fonts and point sizes to use, what color palette, use of logos etc etc). If not do we perhaps need a person/team with the right skills who will take ownership?

I'm not a designer, but I have experience that I might be able to lend to such a team if people thought it was a good idea to set one up. I also think things like taglines really need to be thought about very carefully and voted upon by the community before being bandied about externally. How can we democratically handle this. My intention is not to offend, just to improve things  :)

Thoughts....

The infographic im modifying with a friend should only be used on websites if the marketing team (developers) want to.  Im more interested promoting via facebook, twitter, reddit, and imgur.  A viral/grass roots marketing initiative. 
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Post by: pseudoscops on September 10, 2014, 09:47:06 am
IMHO, where the marketing material will be used does not make my points any less valid.
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Post by: eagleeye on September 10, 2014, 09:49:02 am
IMHO, where the marketing material will be used does not make my points any less valid.

Your points are valid...working on making the infographic im working on better.  Took advice from some people, we will finish the infographic hopefully tomorrow and start promoting a few days after.
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 10, 2014, 10:25:00 am
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.

I want to put that in the infographic but can I really claim 10% yield/interest? It'll end up being whatever the exchange takes in as fees, which could be anything.
Right, I would avoid anything that (a) can not be kept for sure or (b) is too good to be true. That always turns on the "Scam" alarm in my head.

If we could have some confidence that BitsharesX would get a close enough proximity to 10% I'd use it, its a great hook.  However, I don't think we have enough history to go that far out on a lim.  Maybe say something like "as much as 10%"  or " at least X% more than transitional legacy banks"  <--- just throwing out ideas.     By the way has anyone at Bitshares done a back of the envelope analysis of what they interest payments could be.  We probably can use that to back up the stated rate.   
BM calculated that it could roughly be 10% p.a.

Maybe it is just that I am not american. Where I live people (incl. me) are super critical if something too good to be true comes around the corner. Most broad claims are made by scams.

In the US everyone believes in endless opportunities without trade ofs for everyone. That is not like that everywhere in the world. IMO such a mind set suits the marketing industry perfectly because ppl feel uplifted if they are on the forefront of society's progress (which is indicated by the degree of novelty and amount of things/technology you own).
Big corporations can get away with polluting the planet (everyone's resources: air, a stable climate, rivers etc.) simply by stating that there will be technical solutions in the future and ppl believe it. 

I have nothing against this culture (as long as it does not harm everyone around the plant), just saying that broad claims are not received everywhere with the same optimism.

God, this has gotten a bit of track but you know where I am coming from ;)
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 12:56:17 pm
I've decided I'm going to remove the 0% trading fees and replace it with 10% interest. I will clarify exactly where the interest comes from so it won't sound too good to be true. Thoughts?

EDIT: Anyone know what the official BitShares font is? The one in the logo?
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Post by: James212 on September 10, 2014, 01:12:33 pm
Methodx I like your poster 8).

How about a section about how BTSX holders receive dividends instead of 10%/year inflation.

I want to put that in the infographic but can I really claim 10% yield/interest? It'll end up being whatever the exchange takes in as fees, which could be anything.
Right, I would avoid anything that (a) can not be kept for sure or (b) is too good to be true. That always turns on the "Scam" alarm in my head.

If we could have some confidence that BitsharesX would get a close enough proximity to 10% I'd use it, its a great hook.  However, I don't think we have enough history to go that far out on a lim.  Maybe say something like "as much as 10%"  or " at least X% more than transitional legacy banks"  <--- just throwing out ideas.     By the way has anyone at Bitshares done a back of the envelope analysis of what they interest payments could be.  We probably can use that to back up the stated rate.   
BM calculated that it could roughly be 10% p.a.

Maybe it is just that I am not american. Where I live people (incl. me) are super critical if something too good to be true comes around the corner. Most broad claims are made by scams.

In the US everyone believes in endless opportunities without trade ofs for everyone. That is not like that everywhere in the world. IMO such a mind set suits the marketing industry perfectly because ppl feel uplifted if they are on the forefront of society's progress (which is indicated by the degree of novelty and amount of things/technology you own).
Big corporations can get away with polluting the planet (everyone's resources: air, a stable climate, rivers etc.) simply by stating that there will be technical solutions in the future and ppl believe it. 

I have nothing against this culture (as long as it does not harm everyone around the plant), just saying that broad claims are not received everywhere with the same optimism.

God, this has gotten a bit of track but you know where I am coming from ;)

The fact is that Bitshares itself is too good to be true for most people.(even bitcoin).  What the crypto movement is attempting to do is to take the trillions of dollars sucked up by the global banking system in fees, HF trading etc and redistribute that value to the market.  There are huge benefits there.  No way to deny it.    So if the Bitshares "interest" program projects a yield of 10% (this still needs to be verified with some solid calculations), I don't think we would say its less just because 10% sounds extraordinary.  Therefore if the forecast confirms the higher interest rate this is just proves what we here already know..... the DAC business is far more efficiency than a similar legacy company.    With all that said, I do think we should consider using  qualifiers such as "approximately"  "as much as"  "between X% and X%" etc.     Again, lets not make grandiose claims.  Lets get some solid estimates. 
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Post by: James212 on September 10, 2014, 01:18:39 pm
I've decided I'm going to remove the 0% trading fees and replace it with 10% interest. I will clarify exactly where the interest comes from so it won't sound too good to be true. Thoughts?

EDIT: Anyone know what the official BitShares font is? The one in the logo?

 +5% ....................only please make sure there are some solid projections to support the 10% number.   As I recall, the "10%" figure is simply coming from a quick calculation done by BM who stated that bitUSD earned $1,800 for each of the first two weeks of operation.   I think whatever the interest rate is, it needs to be based on a more extensive calculation (forecast) since these are extraordinary (but true) numbers we are stating. 
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Post by: xeroc on September 10, 2014, 01:21:46 pm
I've decided I'm going to remove the 0% trading fees and replace it with 10% interest. I will clarify exactly where the interest comes from so it won't sound too good to be true. Thoughts?

EDIT: Anyone know what the official BitShares font is? The one in the logo?
+5%
please don't make it a fixed number .. +10% sounds fishy ..

the logos are maintained by 'cass' .. he can tell you the font name
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 01:54:08 pm
FINAL VERSION:

(http://i.imgur.com/PdapmNG.png)
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 02:16:50 pm
I've decided I'm going to remove the 0% trading fees and replace it with 10% interest. I will clarify exactly where the interest comes from so it won't sound too good to be true. Thoughts?

EDIT: Anyone know what the official BitShares font is? The one in the logo?
+5%
please don't make it a fixed number .. +10% sounds fishy ..

the logos are maintained by 'cass' .. he can tell you the font name

There is no easy way to convey the intricacies of how the interest is generated. Compromises must be made in the interest of a clear marketing message. I explained where the fees come from, so I believe any reasonable person would understand interest could be less than 10% if exchange activity is low.  8)
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 02:18:28 pm
I've decided I'm going to remove the 0% trading fees and replace it with 10% interest. I will clarify exactly where the interest comes from so it won't sound too good to be true. Thoughts?

EDIT: Anyone know what the official BitShares font is? The one in the logo?

 +5% ....................only please make sure there are some solid projections to support the 10% number.   As I recall, the "10%" figure is simply coming from a quick calculation done by BM who stated that bitUSD earned $1,800 for each of the first two weeks of operation.   I think whatever the interest rate is, it needs to be based on a more extensive calculation (forecast) since these are extraordinary (but true) numbers we are stating.

It's very difficult to convey that in a short sound bite though...
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 10, 2014, 02:21:19 pm
I like the plain style but I dont like the blue color of the font at the bottom and top. that really looks cheap.
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Post by: xeroc on September 10, 2014, 02:24:20 pm
I am not sure if the "10% or more" statement is good for us .. may be an overestimate
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 02:33:55 pm
I am not sure if the "10% or more" statement is good for us .. may be an overestimate

Fixed. How does that sound? It's the best I can come up with while being sparse.
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Post by: robrigo on September 10, 2014, 03:04:04 pm
I am not sure if the "10% or more" statement is good for us .. may be an overestimate

Fixed. How does that sound? It's the best I can come up with while being sparse.

I think your new wording is a good compromise without making any definitive promise. Well done!

Also I think it would look good if you could work in the actual brand logo at the top somehow, like "What is " + <Insert actual BTSX logo you see when you load the wallet". This could help to establish brand identity. It might not look right without tweaking your fonts though.
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Post by: bytemaster on September 10, 2014, 03:19:47 pm
I think 10% should be changed to 5%... to stick with our meme...

I also think it needs a * + "actual yield may vary"

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Post by: xeroc on September 10, 2014, 03:25:51 pm
I think 10% should be changed to 5%... to stick with our meme...
How could we miss that  +5% +5% +5%
Quote
I also think it needs a * + "actual yield may vary"
please do so ...  +5% +5% maybe in a footnote or tiny ..
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 03:51:47 pm
NEW VERSION:

(http://i.imgur.com/jC89owP.png)

How's this?
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Post by: xeroc on September 10, 2014, 04:03:17 pm
much better .. thx
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Post by: Stan on September 10, 2014, 05:17:12 pm
I think 10% should be changed to 5%... to stick with our meme...

I also think it needs a * + "actual yield may vary"

+5% +or- 5%   :)
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 05:48:52 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/DnEPmFu.png)
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 10, 2014, 06:55:43 pm
Maybe "financial experiment" can be replaced with with something lighter. It is an experiment but that might better be stated not that prominently. Or not? I am divided on that :)

The latest version looks a whole lot better. Maybe the blue color at the bottom can also be changed? (maybe just my screen ;) )
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Post by: Method-X on September 10, 2014, 07:03:51 pm
Maybe "financial experiment" can be replaced with with something lighter. It is an experiment but that might better be stated not that prominently. Or not? I am divided on that :)

I'm all for "financial experiment". Bitcoin captured the imagination of millions of people because it was and still is a financial experiment. Putting a man on the moon was an experiment. Experiment is NOT a dirty word.

*I've been a copywriter my whole adult life.
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Post by: eagleeye on September 10, 2014, 11:59:10 pm
On ours we put down "Financial Innovation" (obviously lift if you want) our should be done tonight, if my friend doesnt cope out.
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Post by: cass on September 11, 2014, 07:28:44 am
(http://bitshares-x.info/img/btsx-logo-blue.svg)


Pls use this logo ;) It's .svg format, you can scale it…
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 11, 2014, 10:53:07 am
Maybe "financial experiment" can be replaced with with something lighter. It is an experiment but that might better be stated not that prominently. Or not? I am divided on that :)

I'm all for "financial experiment". Bitcoin captured the imagination of millions of people because it was and still is a financial experiment. Putting a man on the moon was an experiment. Experiment is NOT a dirty word.

*I've been a copywriter my whole adult life.
make it happen!
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Post by: davidpbrown on September 11, 2014, 11:47:20 am
Sorry to be that guy but I don't think much of that graphic above.

Selling an idea, you need to be mindful of the audience and their level of understanding. Pitching that then at those who could be involved, rather than those who already are savvy, is most important.

I would suggest then that words such as 'opportunity' are better and more attractive than 'experiment'.


So, perhaps instead:

Quote
  • BitShares is an opportunity to speculate on the value of real world assets, without needing to hold those. In creating a digital tokens pegged to the value of real assets, like the USD and Gold, there is then an option for you to buy into that asset or to go 'short' on that. In shorting there is an firm commitment that you pay the value of the asset later, and that commitment is assured by having collarteral in BTSX locked for the time you are short in an asset. Either buying into an asset or going short, could make you a profit or, as with all speculation, it could make you a loss.
  • The opportunity here relative to the value of BTSX then is that BTSX will be host to commitments by those shorting in all BitSharesX asset classes.
  • The opportunity relative to the assets themselves, is that those are stable relative to the value of the real world asset. So, if the value of those assets rise or fall, you could win or loose relative to buying those or shorting them.
  • The Decentralized Autonomous nature of the Exchange ensures there is no counterparty risk. You can trade without concern for who you are trading against.
  • Transactions are anonymous by default.
  • You get all the benefits of cryptocurrency tokens and the stability of real world assets, like USD and Gold.
  • Asset holders will receive income from exchange fees. This could make you 5%-10% interest per year. *note holding BTSX for a long period will lose you 5% per year, as BTSX is geared to activity rather than intended for holding wealth. That said the value of BTSX will reflect the appitite for all asset classes and stands as the collateral for all shorts - twice the value of every short must be held in BTSX.
  • The value of your funds are secure within the BTSX blockchain and as with other cryptocurrency, fully within your control and your responsibility. Ensure that you make secure backups of any wallets.
  • The Bitshares Exchange is the most Secure and Private Exchange available.

Unpolished  8)

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Post by: serejandmyself on September 11, 2014, 12:04:39 pm
did a translation into russian here - https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8751.0 - its still in work, but looks fine to me so i started publishing it round places
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Post by: davidpbrown on September 11, 2014, 01:08:55 pm
I just saw this in twitter .. https://twitter.com/Wef/status/510050235465605120 ~"building the future of big data" - "The excitement of the internet of things will be a small footnote in history as the internet of everywhere becomes our reality."

Which had me wonder if there is an opportunity to ride the wave of the idea of the internet of all. I haven't got the imagination to have already thought of a catchy related expression for what BitShares offers but expecting there must be a way of suggesting that it is the next logical step in the empowering nature of the web and technology.
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Post by: xeroc on September 11, 2014, 01:10:57 pm
I just saw this in twitter .. https://twitter.com/Wef/status/510050235465605120 ~"building the future of big data" - "The excitement of the internet of things will be a small footnote in history as the internet of everywhere becomes our reality."

Which had me wonder if there is an opportunity to ride the wave of the idea of the internet of all. I haven't got the imagination to have already thought of a catchy related expression for what BitShares offers but expecting there must be a way of suggesting that it is the next logical step in the empowering nature of the web and technology.
buzzword bingo-ing .. I am sure a whole group of marketing people took 3 months to figure out that fancy sentence :)
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Post by: cass on September 11, 2014, 02:05:52 pm
(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib.png)
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Post by: rysgc on September 11, 2014, 02:14:06 pm
(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib.png)
Great, finallu something which please my eyes :) +5%
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Post by: yellowecho on September 11, 2014, 04:31:43 pm
Great, finallu something which please my eyes :) +5%

 +5% looks great, cass!
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Post by: emailtooaj on September 11, 2014, 05:45:19 pm
Great, finallu something which please my eyes :) +5%

 +5% looks great, cass!

 +5%

What about adding some type of background photo, either a bank, city scape, people conducting business, etc etc and put a somewhat heavy blur effect around the edges?
maybe in a blue/grey'ish hue? And place it right of center on the page?

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Post by: oldman on September 11, 2014, 07:07:55 pm
Looks great!

Would suggest using 'earn' in the +%5 box rather than 'make'.

I think the graphic would look better without the hook, the added text seems to clutter things up.

The logo is fantastic and can really stand on its own.


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Post by: cass on September 11, 2014, 07:14:27 pm
Would suggest using 'earn' in the +%5 box rather than 'make'.

good idea - done!


@MeTHoDx: you asked  to change back from *public ledger* to blockchain! I wouldn't do that cause, users who are familar with bitcoin also know *public ledger expression. But someone who is new to crypto mabye better can understand *pulic ledger* instead of *blockchain ... maybe i'm wrong … thoughts are welcome
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Post by: tonyk on September 11, 2014, 07:20:17 pm
Would suggest using 'earn' in the +%5 box rather than 'make'.

good idea - done!


@MeTHoDx: you asked  to change back from *public ledger* to blockchain! I wouldn't do that cause, users who are familar with bitcoin also know *public ledger expression. But someone who is new to crypto mabye better can understand *pulic ledger* instead of *blockchain ... maybe i'm wrong … thoughts are welcome

As one of the few non-IT people here I think 'public ledger' is the better term, as far as the general public is concerned.
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Post by: cass on September 11, 2014, 07:22:45 pm
Would suggest using 'earn' in the +%5 box rather than 'make'.

good idea - done!


@MeTHoDx: you asked  to change back from *public ledger* to blockchain! I wouldn't do that cause, users who are familar with bitcoin also know *public ledger expression. But someone who is new to crypto mabye better can understand *pulic ledger* instead of *blockchain ... maybe i'm wrong … thoughts are welcome

As one of the few non-IT people here I think 'public ledger' is the better term, as far as the general public is concerned.

thx for your fb
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Post by: Method-X on September 11, 2014, 08:20:19 pm
 +5% Looking good! I would suggest making a .PSD file publicly available so it can be translated into Russian and Chinese.
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Post by: cass on September 11, 2014, 08:32:52 pm
+5% Looking good! I would suggest making a .PSD file publicly available so it can be translated into Russian and Chinese.

it's an .ai file (illustrator) but if i get texts, no problem! I can update it also.
I'm using Proxima Nova as a premium font...
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Post by: Geneko on September 11, 2014, 08:43:21 pm
Looking Great

Only you can try this one

BTSX

Getaway for your own financial freedom

 

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Post by: xeroc on September 11, 2014, 08:50:58 pm
Getaway for your own financial freedom
BitsharesX: financial independance
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Post by: serejandmyself on September 12, 2014, 05:51:14 am
+5% Looking good! I would suggest making a .PSD file publicly available so it can be translated into Russian and Chinese.

it's an .ai file (illustrator) but if i get texts, no problem! I can update it also.
I'm using Proxima Nova as a premium font...

Yes please, a psd file to translate would be much appreciated here!  :)
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Post by: cass on September 12, 2014, 09:44:41 am
pls sent me the russian translation of this gfx! No problem, i'll update it and sent you translated img back.

In future i'll try tp prepare adobe pdf as forms, so you can change texts etc. but font and layout is included into pdf!
Will try to show you what i mean exactly later the day ...

c
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Post by: serejandmyself on September 12, 2014, 10:38:33 am
pls sent me the russian translation of this gfx! No problem, i'll update it and sent you translated img back.

In future i'll try tp prepare adobe pdf as forms, so you can change texts etc. but font and layout is included into pdf!
Will try to show you what i mean exactly later the day ...

c

no probs, will do later on in the day  :)
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Post by: cass on September 12, 2014, 12:20:52 pm
pls sent me the russian translation of this gfx! No problem, i'll update it and sent you translated img back.

In future i'll try tp prepare adobe pdf as forms, so you can change texts etc. but font and layout is included into pdf!
Will try to show you what i mean exactly later the day ...

c

no probs, will do later on in the day  :)

great :)  +5%
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 12, 2014, 12:42:50 pm
(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib.png)
Great, finallu something which please my eyes :) +5%
+5% thanks cass and thanks MeTHoDx for the texts and the initiative!

Maybe we should say "exchange and trading platform" in the first bullet point because those (exchange and trading) are two separate functions (different people find those two for different reasons useful) and bitsharesx can be used for both.
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Post by: hadrian on September 12, 2014, 03:25:29 pm
(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib.png)
Great, finallu something which please my eyes :) +5%
+5% thanks cass and thanks MeTHoDx for the texts and the initiative!

Maybe we should say "exchange and trading platform" in the first bullet point because those (exchange and trading) are two separate functions (different people find those two for different reasons useful) and bitsharesx can be used for both.

Fair point delulo, but it does say "Trade without any counter party risk" immediately afterwards, so there is mention of both exchange and trade already.

By the way, I would use "counterparty" as one word rather then "counter party". Not sure if one is more correct.

Also cass, you have a typo with "plattform" rather than "platform".
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Post by: santaclause102 on September 12, 2014, 04:37:55 pm
My reasoning was that the first word determines the meaning and everything after it is read under this impression...
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Post by: cass on September 12, 2014, 04:39:43 pm
(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib-ru.png)


have to use another font for cyrillic type face ... used open sans ... as free font for this purposes
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Post by: serejandmyself on September 12, 2014, 04:44:05 pm
(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib-ru.png)

Gracias  +5%
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: cass on September 13, 2014, 06:43:43 am
(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib.png)(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib-zn.png)(http://www.bitshares.org/infogfx/wib/btsx-wib-ru.png)
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Post by: serejandmyself on September 13, 2014, 02:32:25 pm
Looks good
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Post by: AJ on September 14, 2014, 03:53:19 pm
I like this :)

 +5%

(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?
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Post by: oldman on September 15, 2014, 05:39:19 pm
I like this :)

 +5%

(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?

This is excellent and should be splashed.

Note: Swiss to be capitalized. And while I understand the common perception of privacy in Swiss banking, Swiss banks are no longer private in the sense most believe them to be.
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Post by: serejandmyself on September 15, 2014, 06:22:18 pm
I like this :)

 +5%

(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?

This is excellent and should be splashed.

Note: Swiss to be capitalized. And while I understand the common perception of privacy in Swiss banking, Swiss banks are no longer private in the sense most believe them to be.

Anyone can give this in a psd format?
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your is input appreciated.
Post by: hadrian on September 15, 2014, 07:31:07 pm
I like this :)

 +5%

(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?

This is excellent and should be splashed.

Note: Swiss to be capitalized. And while I understand the common perception of privacy in Swiss banking, Swiss banks are no longer private in the sense most believe them to be.

Anyone can give this in a psd format?

Can whomever has the "master file" correct the typo in the bottom left? It says "interes", but should say "interest".
(cass doesn't have the file)
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Post by: feedthemcake on September 15, 2014, 07:36:37 pm
I like this :)

 +5%

(http://s29.postimg.org/48cka12kn/bs3.jpg)

Hey did you noticed this here?

This is excellent and should be splashed.

Note: Swiss to be capitalized. And while I understand the common perception of privacy in Swiss banking, Swiss banks are no longer private in the sense most believe them to be.

Anyone can give this in a psd format?

Can whomever has the "master file" correct the typo in the bottom left? It says "interes", but should say "interest".
(cass doesn't have the file)

Also it should read "Your money can be seized and spied upon" ... just missing the word "be" for proper english.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: serejandmyself on September 15, 2014, 08:08:56 pm
whoever has the master, please send me a copy in psd for transalation
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: cass on September 15, 2014, 09:59:08 pm
whoever has the master, please send me a copy in psd for transalation

honestly idk who has master on this .. but guess it's a bit outdated... when get more time .. i could rebuild this ... not a problem
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Post by: serejandmyself on September 16, 2014, 05:31:13 am
whoever has the master, please send me a copy in psd for transalation

honestly idk who has master on this .. but guess it's a bit outdated... when get more time .. i could rebuild this ... not a problem

Would be great!
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Post by: cryptillionaire on September 16, 2014, 10:29:23 am
Broke down one of the infographics to some of the smaller components for use in delegates websites:
https://mega.co.nz/#!lZ5RiD4J!1szve3GuirxaNwfmvXMDAj37zN6KxF3EuFBVZrC_H4g
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Post by: cass on September 16, 2014, 08:52:31 pm
Broke down one of the infographics to some of the smaller components for use in delegates websites:
https://mega.co.nz/#!lZ5RiD4J!1szve3GuirxaNwfmvXMDAj37zN6KxF3EuFBVZrC_H4g

hey thx for helping…

could pls use google drive or something? When users must zip something from a untrusted source ... you know?
Better if you could use .. GD or something similar and pls don't archive files ... then we could see whats inside .. just my 2BTSX

   
hurry on :)
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Post by: rysgc on September 17, 2014, 02:40:17 am
whoever has the master, please send me a copy in psd for transalation

honestly idk who has master on this .. but guess it's a bit outdated... when get more time .. i could rebuild this ... not a problem

Would be great!

I created that one, kinda outdated indeed and could use some better looks. Ill see tomorrow if I can find the original PSD's and post them here.
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: serejandmyself on September 17, 2014, 06:03:35 am
whoever has the master, please send me a copy in psd for transalation

honestly idk who has master on this .. but guess it's a bit outdated... when get more time .. i could rebuild this ... not a problem

Would be great!

I created that one, kinda outdated indeed and could use some better looks. Ill see tomorrow if I can find the original PSD's and post them here.

Will be great if you did! As for outadet, it doesnt matter, i can update on the translation. Any info is good
Title: Re: "What Is BitShares?" infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: cryptillionaire on September 17, 2014, 09:30:53 pm
Broke down one of the infographics to some of the smaller components for use in delegates websites:
https://mega.co.nz/#!lZ5RiD4J!1szve3GuirxaNwfmvXMDAj37zN6KxF3EuFBVZrC_H4g

hey thx for helping…

could pls use google drive or something? When users must zip something from a untrusted source ... you know?
Better if you could use .. GD or something similar and pls don't archive files ... then we could see whats inside .. just my 2BTSX

   
hurry on :)
I'll bear that in mind next time, sorry :P
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Post by: rysgc on September 17, 2014, 10:12:37 pm
Sorry guys, I don't have the original psd anymore. Thought it was backed up but cant find it anymore. Maybe Brian or BM still has a copy of them, I've transferred the final version to them.
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Post by: cass on September 17, 2014, 10:53:25 pm
Sorry guys, I don't have the original psd anymore. Thought it was backed up but cant find it anymore. Maybe Brian or BM still has a copy of them, I've transferred the final version to them.
pity, but no worries :)
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Post by: toast on September 18, 2014, 02:44:12 am
Omg! Do not write "5% yield" or "cannot default"

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Title: Re: &quot;What Is BitShares?&quot; infographic -- your input is appreciated.
Post by: cass on September 18, 2014, 09:33:56 am
Omg! Do not write "5% yield" or "cannot default"

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Guess you point to otudated info gfx, don't you?
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Post by: eagleeye on September 21, 2014, 10:39:02 pm
Please comment on this infographic.

http://i.imgur.com/uWCZXvF.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/uWCZXvF.jpg?1)

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Post by: Method-X on September 22, 2014, 01:15:21 am
(http://static.tumblr.com/ys07vza/23Wlidxrc/fry_squint.jpg)
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Post by: eagleeye on September 22, 2014, 01:27:41 am
Some aspects were created by MeTHoDx, my friend, bitshares.org, and theFuzz did some editing.
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Post by: James212 on September 22, 2014, 03:18:17 am
Please comment on this infographic.

http://i.imgur.com/uWCZXvF.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/uWCZXvF.jpg?1)

(its late, and I'm half asleep already, but I'll take a rough stab at it. I'm sure my comments can be improved... take what you like, leave the rest. )

My comments:


1) change the first line "first they invented, The Computer, then Internet, now BitsharesX, a digital exchange for currency, stocks and all other assets"...... to think of another two items, but definately take the "toilet paper" out.

2) section #4: "What is Bitshares X and why should you care about it?"    should move to right after section #2......."the three greatest inventions of modern times"

3) section #3  "Buy bitUSD and gain ingest, without a bank"     /  replace with something like: "the BitShares eXchange allows you to hold in your account digital representation of USD which pays significant interest on the balance and is readily convertible to actual USD at any time".   .....<--- it hard to say this in a short snip because you really need to explain bitUSD, the concept of the Exchange ect....)

The Bitshares system allows you direct control of your assets (money, stocks, and other personal assets)  without a third party intermediary.   As with all things digital, the Bitshares Bank & Exchange is far more efficient than any legacy bank or stock market. -  The lack of huge administrative overhead, and  third party shareholders means the account holders are the ones who gain and benefit from all profits generated by the business. 

4) Get the incredable flexibility and utility of Bitcoin but with the price stability of the USD Dollar. 

5) Your account and your transactions are 100% private. 


In marketing Bitshares, I would try to avoid the terms Crypto, Blockchain, Trustless, Altcoin, ....(im sure there are others).   IMO, all these are ether too technical or leave a bad or wrong connotation.   I think the terms that bitcoin has been using to describe itself of the past 5 years have been very poor for achieving the objective is mass consumption /adoption. I think it has failed to achieve the mass adoption because to it.... (not mass adoption of companies, but mass adoption of the people which is the key).   We need to rework the crypto marketing vocabulary for successful penetration of 2nd generation crypto products like Bitshares
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Post by: vikram on September 22, 2014, 04:22:30 pm
In marketing Bitshares, I would try to avoid the terms Crypto, Blockchain, Trustless, Altcoin, ....(im sure there are others).   IMO, all these are ether too technical or leave a bad or wrong connotation.   I think the terms that bitcoin has been using to describe itself of the past 5 years have been very poor for achieving the objective is mass consumption /adoption. I think it has failed to achieve the mass adoption because to it.... (not mass adoption of companies, but mass adoption of the people which is the key).   We need to rework the crypto marketing vocabulary for successful penetration of 2nd generation crypto products like Bitshares

I agree. These terms mean almost nothing and do very little other than mislead and confuse people.
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Post by: cass on September 22, 2014, 06:09:53 pm
In marketing Bitshares, I would try to avoid the terms Crypto, Blockchain, Trustless, Altcoin, ....(im sure there are others).   IMO, all these are ether too technical or leave a bad or wrong connotation.   I think the terms that bitcoin has been using to describe itself of the past 5 years have been very poor for achieving the objective is mass consumption /adoption. I think it has failed to achieve the mass adoption because to it.... (not mass adoption of companies, but mass adoption of the people which is the key).   We need to rework the crypto marketing vocabulary for successful penetration of 2nd generation crypto products like Bitshares

I agree. These terms mean almost nothing and do very little other than mislead and confuse people.

agreed