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Title: is this bitUSD?
Post by: merockstar on August 20, 2014, 06:10:30 am
it's live?!

is this bitUSD or is this something else altogether?

(http://i.imgur.com/3aomerC.png)

also, I can buy PTS on that market, then send it to a seperate PTS wallet?

did the client just become a PTS wallet?


edit: realized that's probably bitPTS.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: tonyk on August 20, 2014, 06:17:24 am
It is. Just not active, the last time I checked.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: xeroc on August 20, 2014, 06:37:38 am
Its the bitPTS .. market pegged to the real PTS ... PTS is still on a different chain
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Empirical1 on August 20, 2014, 03:39:32 pm
Looks cool.

My concern is whether using the direct abbreviation USD is OK?

Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: toast on August 20, 2014, 03:41:38 pm
Looks cool.

My concern is whether using the direct abbreviation USD is OK?

I agree, it needs to say BitUSD with a link to in-depth explanation
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: sschechter on August 20, 2014, 03:43:40 pm
Looks cool.

My concern is whether using the direct abbreviation USD is OK?

I think bitAssets need a symbol to delineate them as such. ∫USD ΩUSD µUSD?
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Empirical1 on August 20, 2014, 04:11:43 pm
Looks cool.

My concern is whether using the direct abbreviation USD is OK?

I agree, it needs to say BitUSD with a link to in-depth explanation

I was expecting a 'Bit'/'b' included somehow as you're suggesting.

I do like sschechter's idea of at least a  symbol though to differentiate BitUSD from USD.



Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Riverhead on August 20, 2014, 04:14:49 pm
This isn't done on other exchanges. When buying/selling BTC, LTC, BTSX, etc. on BTER or other exchanges you aren't actually trading those coins. You're trading bterBTC, bterLTC, etc. Nothing hits the blockchain until you withdraw. I feel USD falls under the logic.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Empirical1 on August 20, 2014, 04:17:23 pm
This isn't done on other exchanges. When buying/selling BTC, LTC, BTSX, etc. on BTER or other exchanges you aren't actually trading those coins. You're trading bterBTC, bterLTC, etc. Nothing hits the blockchain until you withdraw. I feel USD falls under the logic.

I'm more worried about using the letters USD from a legal standpoint.

Edit: As in I'm happy creating BitUSD is fine, I'm not so sure about creating 'USD'
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Riverhead on August 20, 2014, 04:30:48 pm
This isn't done on other exchanges. When buying/selling BTC, LTC, BTSX, etc. on BTER or other exchanges you aren't actually trading those coins. You're trading bterBTC, bterLTC, etc. Nothing hits the blockchain until you withdraw. I feel USD falls under the logic.

I'm more worried about using the letters USD from a legal standpoint.

Edit: As in I'm happy creating BitUSD is fine, I'm not so sure about creating 'USD'


I see your point. We don't want to be seen as "minting" green backs and getting in hot water with the CIA.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: cass on August 20, 2014, 04:40:16 pm
think also we should call it bitUSD
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: luckybit on August 20, 2014, 05:02:45 pm
It can be called USD in the interface. It's already documented as BitUSD in the source code.
It's obviously not real USD so it isn't going to have any legal problems.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Empirical1 on August 20, 2014, 05:12:56 pm
It's obviously not real USD so it isn't going to have any legal problems.

Yes it should be fine because BitUSD is very different.
However in this particular case I wasn't sure it was worth the short term risk of there being any confusion.

We've already seen how two small communities can politicise the word 'partnership' in a couple of days.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: donkeypong on August 20, 2014, 05:14:10 pm

I see your point. We don't want to be seen as "minting" green backs and getting in hot water with the CIA.

The Treasury Department would take the most interest in this. But it's clearly a proxy -- play money -- and doesn't mention the word "dollar". Even if it did, there are other countries with their own dollars, not just the U.S. And in the U.S., I believe that "USD" is a trademark of the University of South Dakota. "BitUSD" clearly is neither an educational institution nor a U.S. government-issued currency. Keep the name, please.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Gentso1 on August 20, 2014, 05:26:31 pm
think also we should call it bitUSD

Agreed we need to make sure it is VERY crystal clear that this is bitUSD not USD.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Gentso1 on August 20, 2014, 05:41:14 pm
? When I click the market tab on my client I still get
Market Coming Soon

The GUI for markets is not yet available. BitShares X will support two types of tradeable assets:

Traditional user-issued assets let anyone issue an asset which can trade against any other asset on the BitShares X platform.

Market-pegged assets are an experimental type of asset which are pegged to the value of a real-world asset using a mechanism similar to a prediction market. They are lent into existence to anyone who takes a short position on that asset using BTSX as collateral.

Markets for user-issued assets are available via the console. Markets for market-pegged BitAssets are in development and will be available after a hard fork.

Are you on the test net or has a newer version of the client been released.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: boombastic on August 20, 2014, 05:49:59 pm
? When I click the market tab on my client I still get
Market Coming Soon

The GUI for markets is not yet available. BitShares X will support two types of tradeable assets:

Traditional user-issued assets let anyone issue an asset which can trade against any other asset on the BitShares X platform.

Market-pegged assets are an experimental type of asset which are pegged to the value of a real-world asset using a mechanism similar to a prediction market. They are lent into existence to anyone who takes a short position on that asset using BTSX as collateral.

Markets for user-issued assets are available via the console. Markets for market-pegged BitAssets are in development and will be available after a hard fork.

Are you on the test net or has a newer version of the client been released.

Try click refresh button on your browser.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Gentso1 on August 20, 2014, 06:04:12 pm
? When I click the market tab on my client I still get
Market Coming Soon

The GUI for markets is not yet available. BitShares X will support two types of tradeable assets:

Traditional user-issued assets let anyone issue an asset which can trade against any other asset on the BitShares X platform.

Market-pegged assets are an experimental type of asset which are pegged to the value of a real-world asset using a mechanism similar to a prediction market. They are lent into existence to anyone who takes a short position on that asset using BTSX as collateral.

Markets for user-issued assets are available via the console. Markets for market-pegged BitAssets are in development and will be available after a hard fork.

Are you on the test net or has a newer version of the client been released.

Try click refresh button on your browser.
I don't understand the connection between refreshing my browser and the client.
I did back up my wallet and grab version 0.4.4.
Client re installs but fails to start up it "The program can't start because CrashRpt1402.dll is missing from your computer. Try re installing the program to fix the problem" Tried to re install but but same error
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: boombastic on August 20, 2014, 06:30:55 pm
missing dll: here is the discussion and solution
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7161.msg95548#msg95548
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: oldman on August 20, 2014, 07:43:46 pm
think also we should call it bitUSD

Agreed we need to make sure it is VERY crystal clear that this is bitUSD not USD.

All derived assets (bitAssets) must be clearly designated as such.

This is critical.

bitUSD, bitGLD, bitOSTK etc.

Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: luckybit on August 20, 2014, 08:09:00 pm
Looks cool.

My concern is whether using the direct abbreviation USD is OK?

I think bitAssets need a symbol to delineate them as such. ∫USD ΩUSD µUSD?

It needs a lot of graphical improvements. The Interface is very plain.
Perhaps also give us the ability to apply a skin to the interface?
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: MrJeans on August 20, 2014, 08:55:06 pm
Agreed. It should defiantly say bitUSD and not just USD
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Gentso1 on August 20, 2014, 10:01:51 pm
missing dll: here is the discussion and solution
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7161.msg95548#msg95548
Thank you so much, I am reading it now......and it worked perfectly,very nice thanks so much
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: Murderistic on August 20, 2014, 10:05:52 pm
GUI is already being worked on, don't worry - it's gonna blow minds.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: merockstar on August 20, 2014, 10:26:35 pm
This isn't done on other exchanges. When buying/selling BTC, LTC, BTSX, etc. on BTER or other exchanges you aren't actually trading those coins. You're trading bterBTC, bterLTC, etc. Nothing hits the blockchain until you withdraw. I feel USD falls under the logic.

other exchanges issue IOUs for the currency itself. BTC, PPC, BTSX, USD, CNY

X won't issue IOUs for USD itself, it'll be issuing IOUs for bitUSD.

I agree with the points being made here.
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: MktDirector on August 20, 2014, 10:37:18 pm
agreed.. call it bitUSD
Title: Re: is this bitUSD?
Post by: donkeypong on August 20, 2014, 11:39:39 pm

I think bitAssets need a symbol to delineate them as such. ∫USD ΩUSD µUSD?
Maybe we need a new character. Kind of like Prince did. #$*&@. Aw hell, we'll just call it "The industry formerly known as BitShares"...