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Title: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: kenCode on May 25, 2015, 07:48:09 am
I need to know about every DPOS-based company out there like the BitShares DAC. Companies that are decentralized like us and use DPOS.
 
If there isn't a formal list yet, can you name the DPOS companies here that you know of?
We're building something for BitShares that is pretty big, but part of this business plan requires a list of all the dpos platforms and companies, etc. Other companies that have (voted-in) delegates (and hopefully soon dpos2.0).
 
Please and thanx for any that you can name here...
  -ken
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: Akado on May 25, 2015, 09:18:42 am
crypti https://crypti.me/
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: kenCode on May 25, 2015, 09:45:09 am
Would you say Crypti is a competitor to BitShares?
They obviously use DPOS, so... what do you think? Or maybe Moonstone would be their competitor?
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: Akado on May 25, 2015, 09:57:11 am
Would you say Crypti is a competitor to BitShares?
They obviously use DPOS, so... what do you think? Or maybe Moonstone would be their competitor?

Well I think they're trying to do the same as we are, using DPOS, but in a different platform and maybe through a different method/philosophy (didn't check their project yet), which I think it's positive So yeah, competition maybe. Friendly competition since we're all trying to achieve the same goal and not trampling each other I think
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: lil_jay890 on May 25, 2015, 11:11:54 am
Pretty sparse from what I can tell...
Bitshares pts
Sparkle soon?
Feathercoin soon?
Note maybe?
Devshares

Not totally sure what you mean by dpos companies... The above will or already have their own unique blockchain.  There are companies like dacx that use bitshares as their trading platform. Bunkershares is also a project that uses uia's on the bts platform.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: cass on May 25, 2015, 11:25:28 am
Not totally sure what you mean by dpos companies...

 +5%
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: fav on May 25, 2015, 11:58:51 am
What's a Proof of Stake DAC?
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 01:15:15 pm
Might be a few known projects.. but anybody can download the tool set and operate without anybody knowing it if they wanted too.. and rightly so as far as privacy goes.

What's been mentioned is about all that comes to mind as known projects. I have heard of others say 'waiting till 1.0'
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: CLains on May 25, 2015, 01:37:05 pm
If you're talking chains using DPOS:

pts
play
music
crypti
sparkle
cointum
pebblecoin
ron paul coin

And a few considering:

copperlark
darkcrave
feathercoin

Probably a few I don't know about as well.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: CLains on May 25, 2015, 01:38:23 pm
1.0 will ignite the great clone wars though  8)

Here is an ancient document describing the situation,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,2876.msg35841.html#msg35841
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: kenCode on May 25, 2015, 02:06:50 pm
Good stuff guys, thank you :)
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: biophil on May 25, 2015, 02:10:31 pm
Sparkle was originally intended to be PoW, not DPOS. That was the whole point: bitshares functionality on a PoW chain.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: bytemaster on May 25, 2015, 02:55:52 pm
1.0 will ignite the great clone wars though  8)

Here is an ancient document describing the situation,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,2876.msg35841.html#msg35841

Or will it... what if 1.0 was licensed for use with BTS only?
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: bytemaster on May 25, 2015, 02:56:15 pm
Sparkle was originally intended to be PoW, not DPOS. That was the whole point: bitshares functionality on a PoW chain.

Something tells me Sparkle is DOA.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: mint chocolate chip on May 25, 2015, 03:09:52 pm
1.0 will ignite the great clone wars though  8)

Here is an ancient document describing the situation,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,2876.msg35841.html#msg35841

Or will it... what if 1.0 was licensed for use with BTS only?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d1/f5/9d/d1f59d3a8ba0e695fd32841fd667a40a.jpg)
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: kenCode on May 25, 2015, 04:09:43 pm
Sparkle was originally intended to be PoW, not DPOS. That was the whole point: bitshares functionality on a PoW chain.
Something tells me Sparkle is DOA.

Yeah, I've been researching these DACs today. sparkles last posts indicate he's waiting for our 1.0 before he launches anything. This tells me that he probably has no team of Devs like we do and in the meantime, companies like Crypti are just kickin butt. Crypti is still v0.2.0 but their UI is freakin amazing.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: kenCode on May 25, 2015, 04:24:19 pm
So Note and Music are the same dpos company, right? (they have delegates that get voted in)
 
Play is hard to find. Do they have a website?
Are, or will they be delegate-driven as well?
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: carpet ride on May 25, 2015, 04:42:33 pm

1.0 will ignite the great clone wars though  8)

Here is an ancient document describing the situation,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,2876.msg35841.html#msg35841

Or will it... what if 1.0 was licensed for use with BTS only?
Moats are good +5%


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Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on May 25, 2015, 06:29:27 pm
1.0 will ignite the great clone wars though  8)

Here is an ancient document describing the situation,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,2876.msg35841.html#msg35841

Or will it... what if 1.0 was licensed for use with BTS only?

(http://i60.tinypic.com/20u6f69.jpg)
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: emailtooaj on May 25, 2015, 06:50:25 pm

1.0 will ignite the great clone wars though  8)

Here is an ancient document describing the situation,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,2876.msg35841.html#msg35841

Or will it... what if 1.0 was licensed for use with BTS only?
Moats are good +5%


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Well now, isn't this an interesting subject  :D
Possibility of a guaranteed share drop onto existing BTS share holders from others wishing to use the licensed 1.0 version, if they don't intend to integrate into BTS?????
Now THIS is worth talking about  ;D

Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: CLains on May 25, 2015, 07:14:58 pm
Major players copying us would be devastating. Only worse thing is regulators going full retard, so if we can eliminate 1/2 of our existential risks I'm all for it.. I think.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: merockstar on May 25, 2015, 10:53:48 pm
holy shit huge leak in this thread!  ;)
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: fuzzy on May 26, 2015, 04:51:34 am
Major players copying us would be devastating.

This is only the case if the community gives up.  If it doesnt, over time bitshares will emerge as very powerful regardless. Only issue would be if big players used regulations against us and imprisoned our community. Then...you might be right.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: Ben Mason on May 26, 2015, 06:15:02 am
What would the effect on Bitshares music, play and other current Bitshares toolkit users be? They would have a choice between moving their business into the Bitshares primary network, sticking with a pre 1.0 version or running their own blockchain dev team forever after.

How would notes or play be transitioned into bts?

I really like the idea of consolidation and preventing the clone wars to enhance network effect. However, this kind of move (should it go ahead) must be handled with due care, consideration and collaboration.

Wonderful, thought provoking subject for discussion BM!
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: CLains on May 26, 2015, 12:48:25 pm
Major players copying us would be devastating.

This is only the case if the community gives up.  If it doesnt, over time bitshares will emerge as very powerful regardless. Only issue would be if big players used regulations against us and imprisoned our community. Then...you might be right.

BitAssets depend both on liquid markets and widespread acceptance, and it's difficult to get one without the other, so we need either insane amounts of MM/marketing capital or first mover network effect. I see most of what BM and core are doing as a consequence of this situation; they are consolidating as many DACs into one chain as possible, making that chain insanely scalable and as decentralized as possible, playing nice with KYC/Banks, and creating a massive referral incentive, all to create a deep, decentralized hub of liquid capital.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: cass on May 26, 2015, 12:49:38 pm
Major players copying us would be devastating.

This is only the case if the community gives up.  If it doesnt, over time bitshares will emerge as very powerful regardless. Only issue would be if big players used regulations against us and imprisoned our community. Then...you might be right.

BitAssets depend both on liquid markets and widespread acceptance, and it's difficult to get one without the other, so we need either insane amounts of MM/marketing capital or first mover network effect. I see most of what BM and core are doing as a consequence of this situation; they are consolidating as many DACs into one chain as possible, making that chain insanely scalable and as decentralized as possible, playing nice with KYC/Banks, and creating a massive referral incentive, all to create a deep, decentralized hub of liquid capital.

 :-*
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: bytemaster on May 26, 2015, 12:58:29 pm
What would the effect on Bitshares music, play and other current Bitshares toolkit users be? They would have a choice between moving their business into the Bitshares primary network, sticking with a pre 1.0 version or running their own blockchain dev team forever after.

How would notes or play be transitioned into bts?

I really like the idea of consolidation and preventing the clone wars to enhance network effect. However, this kind of move (should it go ahead) must be handled with due care, consideration and collaboration.

Wonderful, thought provoking subject for discussion BM!

If they share dropped they would be granted a license as well.
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: xeroc on May 26, 2015, 02:37:01 pm
If they share dropped they would be granted a license as well.
So this will essentially replace the "social conensus" back to a "social contract" ..
Do you have more concrete plans for the required percentage to be eligable?
Title: Re: Is anybody maintaining a list of all the DPOS DAC's out there yet?
Post by: biophil on May 26, 2015, 02:40:58 pm
It would be neat if this license-if-sharedropped  worked, but how would you ever enforce it? The old PTS social consensus wasn't exactly overwhelmingly adopted...