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Main => Stakeholder Proposals => Topic started by: CryptoPrometheus on April 20, 2015, 03:49:18 am
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BitShares Public Relations: Delegate Proposal & White Paper
Delegate: delegate.dposhub-org
Michael P. Maloney
@CryptoPrometheus
Jonathan Baha'i
@DataSecurityNode
For the past three months, while the core devs have been working diligently to enhance, reinforce, and solidify the BitShares software protocol, my business partner Jonathan and I have been busy identifying and mapping a specific group of public relations and social media tools that will help support and strengthen the bonds of human relationships, both personal and professional, that are perhaps equally as vital to the success of BitShares.
In the following pages, we outline a plan for addressing some of the key difficulties our community has faced in attempting to generate PR traction both within and outside of the cryptosphere. We have identified three separate categories as they relate to the gathering and processing of information...
Continued:
http://www.dposhub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/dposhubdelegateproposal.pdf
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This will be on my slate after the next update!
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Awesome! Thanks Xeroc! Appreciate your vote! +5%
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can the name DPOS of your projects change to something else ?
because while we know what DPOS is , other people don't .
It's not catchy , and it doesn't have any meaning while pronouncing to the outside world .
"Di Pauls" ..... that's what it sounds like ...
especially if you use it as a job listing site aiming for a lot of people outside of the crypto space .
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can the name DPOS of your projects change to something else ?
because while we know what DPOS is , other people don't .
It's not catchy , and it doesn't have any meaning while pronouncing to the outside world .
"Di Pauls" ..... that's what it sounds like ...
especially if you use it as a job listing site aiming for a lot of people outside of the crypto space .
Generally when it comes to naming schemes you want at least one of two things.. either where you are.. or what you are. In this case DPOSHub really is identifiable to what we are and in some ways where. I understand what you mean about the outside world not relating to what it is.. but the topic revolves around Delegates .. the name really focuses on that in a short simply way people can remember.
As far as the sound.. DPOS almost sounds like a new type of acronym for POS.. which is a common term in the business community for Point of Sale. If I were being introduced to this as a business community I might assume this to be similar until I learn of its full name, which would come across in the design in some way I am sure.
Regardless... feel free to submit suggestions on what type of catchy names you think might be better. No reason to not seek out improvements.
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Great proposal +5%
DPOShub as you described it would be a much needed tool! Is someone else already working on it? Who would do the programming? It's a big project!
DPOShub might not be an ideal name since Bitshares at its core may not be about DPOS in the future. On the other side DPOShub centers around delegates... A few random ideas for naming: bitshareshub, delegatehub.
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Indeed great proposal +5%
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Great proposal +5%
DPOShub as you described it would be a much needed tool! Is someone else already working on it? Who would do the programming? It's a big project!
DPOShub might not be an ideal name since Bitshares at its core may not be about DPOS in the future. On the other side DPOShub centers around delegates... A few random ideas for naming: bitshareshub, delegatehub.
Great questions.. we do have someone who has started on some programming.. but we certainly have a lot of work to do so if there is anyone else who wants to get involved you are welcome.
We are staying away from the bitshares name specifically because DPOS operates across all chains. Toyed with delegate type names.. but it just became much longer in comparison.
I have never heard of DPOS not being in the future of bitshares.. actually it has been the rock upon everything else has tethered. Can you elaborate on knowing something rest of us don't? Or was it just a 'could be' commentary?
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Ping me if you'll need anything gfx related!!!!
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Nicely laid out plan for a much needed service. You have my support!
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Great initiative guys! Do you have an MVP in mind or do you plan to flesh it all out at once?
I have never heard of DPOS not being in the future of bitshares.. actually it has been the rock upon everything else has tethered. Can you elaborate on knowing something rest of us don't? Or was it just a 'could be' commentary?
It's just a 'could be' I think. But if it changes we can say DPOS stands for Distributed Point of Sale :)
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Great proposal +5%
DPOShub as you described it would be a much needed tool! Is someone else already working on it? Who would do the programming? It's a big project!
DPOShub might not be an ideal name since Bitshares at its core may not be about DPOS in the future. On the other side DPOShub centers around delegates... A few random ideas for naming: bitshareshub, delegatehub.
Great questions.. we do have someone who has started on some programming.. but we certainly have a lot of work to do so if there is anyone else who wants to get involved you are welcome.
We are staying away from the bitshares name specifically because DPOS operates across all chains. Toyed with delegate type names.. but it just became much longer in comparison.
I have never heard of DPOS not being in the future of bitshares.. actually it has been the rock upon everything else has tethered. Can you elaborate on knowing something rest of us don't? Or was it just a 'could be' commentary?
BM said a few times on mumble that he has a functional approach to the consensus system and that whatever serves bitshrares that best will be utilized. I didnt imply anthing specific.
Jabajaba and Fuzzy have had similar thoughts and maybe plans. Jabajaba can do programming. But I am sure you talked to Fuzzy and Jaba already...
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Great initiative guys! Do you have an MVP in mind or do you plan to flesh it all out at once?
I have never heard of DPOS not being in the future of bitshares.. actually it has been the rock upon everything else has tethered. Can you elaborate on knowing something rest of us don't? Or was it just a 'could be' commentary?
It's just a 'could be' I think. But if it changes we can say DPOS stands for Distributed Point of Sale :)
Our MVP is outlined on page 11
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Looking good fellas! +5%
besides my vote, let me know how I can be of help!
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Looking good fellas! +5%
besides my vote, let me know how I can be of help!
+5% to that and voted.
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Looking good fellas! +5%
besides my vote, let me know how I can be of help!
+5% to that and voted.
Thanks Robrigo!
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+5% voted and added you to my slate
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added you to my slate 8)
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Thanks to everyone who added this to your slates.
We are really excited to see all the support for more delegate accountability and public relations.
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Update and Progress Report
Since last month, Jonathan and I have been working to build a simple, solid, functional and reliable platform for BitShares delegates (which now includes witnesses and workers) to organize, publish, and syndicate their shareholder updates and proposals and thus create a more efficient delivery system for vital shareholder (voter) information. We are also implementing a real time communications network similar to Slack for all account holders (both delegate and non-delegate), and a message board which will enable users to post classified listings of Meetups, Jobs/Help Wanted, Professional Services, Resumes and more. In essence, the first iteration of DPOShub.org will be a multi-facited web-based application which will include all of the functionality outlined in Phase 1 of the delegate proposal section of our whitepaper(OP of this thread), along with several bonus features that I’ve been told I am not allowed to speak about yet :).
We have hired a programmer who will help us to integrate with BitShares 2.0 API so that all DPOShub account holders will have their account names verified by the blockhain. Since there is some ambiguity, not to mention future community discussion that must take place before DPOS 2.0 is fully ironed out, we are currently engaged in developing the more mundane aspects of the design and layout of DPOShub.org as well as the integration of its various feature sets.
Several community members have offered to assist with this project, and we are having ongoing discussions towards this end. Meanwhile, please consider voting for our delegate: delegate.dposhub-org, and stay tuned this thread for updates.
Thank you!
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All in for this project :) +5%
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Sounds great! We are well on our way!
Love the brain metaphor as well.
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We are happy to announce that we have a functioning DPOShub proof-of-concept, and
at this stage we are finishing a few last minute tasks before we open up the platform
for beta testing. We are super excited to finally be able to share what we have been
working on with the BitShares community!
(http://i62.tinypic.com/u0wop.jpg)
After we go live, we want to use the “grace period” before BitShares 2.0 to gather and
process the feedback you give us. We are particularly keen to learn what additional
functions you would like to see on DPOShub, as we plan to systematically integrate
a more complex and nuanced set of features with the advent of DPOS 2.0. Alas, we
have already begun to outline a few ideas, but we are (currently) limited to a handful of
viewpoints. We are hoping that some of you will share your insights with us!
Stay tuned….and If you haven’t done so, please vote for our delegate:
delegate.dposhub-org. Also, be sure to visit www.dposhub.org and enter your email
address so we can notify you when we go live.
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Your delegate proposal is very well thought through. You clearly understand the social construct and needs of the Bts community. DPOShub has my vote!
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Love the concept of DPOS hub! +5%
Is the logo final? Reminds me a bit of old church windows or of other religious symbols :)
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Love the concept of DPOS hub! +5%
Is the logo final? Reminds me a bit of old church windows or of other religious symbols :)
(http://imgur.com/alM42ct.png)
Symbols are important, can you explain what this one means and why it is appropriate for DPOS hub?
'It looks cool' isn't good enough, imo
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Yea looks to much like the star of David.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Kjx2cww.png)
Is this the message you want to convey?
http://www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
TRIQUETRA: The triquetra -- with or without the circle -- has been found on runestones in Scandinavia, in ancient goddess-oriented pagan groups, in Celtic manuscripts, and on early Germanic coins. It is associated with numerous mythical gods and goddesses and has been used as a protective charm by Wiccans. Sometimes the symbol is reversed -- pointing down rather than up. The three points may also be round rather than pointed.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Kjx2cww.png)
Is this the message you want to convey?
http://www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
TRIQUETRA: The triquetra -- with or without the circle -- has been found on runestones in Scandinavia, in ancient goddess-oriented pagan groups, in Celtic manuscripts, and on early Germanic coins. It is associated with numerous mythical gods and goddesses and has been used as a protective charm by Wiccans. Sometimes the symbol is reversed -- pointing down rather than up. The three points may also be round rather than pointed.
Thank you for asking Permie! I am overjoyed that someone actually wants to talk symbolism with me ;). We have such a left-brained crowd around here, I sometimes get lonely.
Let me start by giving you a brief overview of the triquetra, and then I will go into why I have chosen to weave it into my logo for DPOSHub.
The triquetra has been used in a multitude of capacities by many cultures for thousands of years. As with most ancient symbols, it contains a plethora of deeply rooted mystical potencies within its sacred geometric architecture.
You might say that “from the great primordial subconscious” arose its three points - which signify the foundational core of every major religion (mass philosophy) of the past 5,000 years:
The Hindu Trimurti (Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva)
The 3 jewels of Buddhism (Buddha, Dharma, Sangha)
The Wiccan Triple Goddess (Maiden, Mother, Wise Woman)
The Christian Holy Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)
The 3 Patriarchs of Judaism (Abraham, Issac, Jacob)
The Daoist 3 Pure Ones (Yuanshi, Lingbao, Daode)
The Greek Sons of Cronus (Zeus, Poseidon, Hades)
The 3 Holy Cities of Islam (Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem)
Delegated Proof of Stake (Delegates, Witnesses, Workers)
The continuous looped pattern, like the Norse Valknut (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut) or the Kemetian Ouroboros (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros), symbolizes a pre-incarnate type of existential unity, and is thus understood to exemplify a “robustness” that cannot be undone by any earth-bound or otherworldly power. The Celts and Germanic people of northern Europe often wove triquetra into their clothing as talismans, to shield and protect against the forces of darkness.
Delegated Proof of Stake also contains a significant robustness, both in terms of network security and economic flexibility/adaptiveness. Most significantly, it appears that every culture on Earth will soon have this “talisman” to protect themselves (and their children) from the forces of financial oppression and political tyranny.
The wonderful part about the use of ancient symbolism to “convey a message” is that you almost always elicit an emotional response from your audience. People tend to remember things when they stir feelings within them, so you might say that using symbolism can also be a powerful advertising technique.
I could go on, but It’s late and I told myself that I would wake up for the mumble hangout this morning. Hope this helps!
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I am satisfied with the explanation and personally don't have a problem with the logo, however I think this should be in the "philosophy" section, right under "Vision" and Mission".
BTW, corporations have major occult symbolism woven into their logos... They are just a little more camouflaged. I understand that some people have negative connotations associated with ancient symbols, but this should not be a barrier to entry because of the powerful content on DPOShub.
I think sensitive people would be less irritated if the triquetra was also a blooming lotus flower? Just an idea to consider for potential future iterations.
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Just up to speed with this (excellent +5%) initiative - any news/timescale to launch? Happy to help in any way I can.
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Just up to speed with this (excellent +5%) initiative - any news/timescale to launch? Happy to help in any way I can.
There are some bugs we are trying to sort out with the UI and still digging through one more area of the network before we have beta launch.
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Where are you? Taking shareholders money and not performing?
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Where are you? Taking shareholders money and not performing?
Edit: How much was your payrate?
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Where are you? Taking shareholders money and not performing?
Edit: How much was your payrate?
I didn't think he was ever voted in???
Not sure if dpos hub is a viable product with the changes in 2.0
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Where are you? Taking shareholders money and not performing?
Edit: How much was your payrate?
We have never accepted any money from any shareholder. This year, Jonathan and I spent a few thousand dollars of our own money in an attempt to put together a working prototype that matched our DposHub whitepaper, however the project is much more complex than a few thousand dollars worth of contract labor could achieve. Because of this, we have put the project on hold and are exploring other options.
We ran a 100% delegate for six months on BitShares 1.0, but since we were never voted into the top 101 we did not receive any BTS.
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OK, I thought that you had a 100% payrate and were in top 100. I remember that you stoped the monthly delegate reports because dposhub would do that better.
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Sorry, I don't remember if that was you.