Quote from: vikram on November 14, 2014, 04:36:02 pm

arhag can you code? You have lots of ideas but your posts are often so long that I don't think anybody reads them. It would be useful if you could express these ideas in a more succinct way and/or possibly actually develop them.

I do read every post arhag is writing , and it does not matter how long it is, everything he's posting, to these day I've never find a fault All he's ideas have some "aha" moments for me. I will venture to say that second to bytemaster and Stan, it is arhag posts that I'm looking the most to read. Whatever he writes brings a lot a value to our forum and bitshares. It is so very few people that can understand this deep this amazing technology, that you, vikram, and I3 team are working so hard to develop.

 Your point it is fair tough I can't imagine how valuable will be arhag  in developer team ! ! I thing he should be a 100% delegate except probably he does not want it right now.

So arhag what it will take for you to be a 100% paid delegate ?  I'm pretty sure you'll have no problem to get all the votes you need.

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Pls remove the rate of bitcny/cny,bitusd/usd,etc. on the topside of front page. I think its very misleading, not to mention where you grasped this data in the first place.

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Quote from: Troglodactyl on February 16, 2015, 08:23:47 am

This seems like a bad idea.  We need direct fiat gateways, not exchanges.

We need to survive first before we get fiat gateways.

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Quote from: graffenwalder on February 16, 2015, 07:23:08 am

Really? Who in their right minds would want to invest in BTER?
BTER is done for, this is their final blow.

Reviving BTER for BTS purposes, is gonna hurt BTS even more.

  Yeah... worst idea ever. A decentralized exchange buys a failed centralized exchange because...?

Because it would become completely irrelevant without an on/off-ramp to the real world.
Because 2M USD to buy a huge user base is a very good deal.
Because that would be the best marketing and PR movement ever in crypto history.

Bitshares will fail if BTER fails.
Mark my words.

It's not like if Bitshares was visible and widely sought after out there.  Time to awake people. If you are not deeply concerned about the implications of BTER's situation for the future of Bitshares a reality check is overdue.

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Quote from: mitao on February 16, 2015, 03:39:02 am

Why can't we bail out bter? Buy it completely as our onramp/offramp channel?

I'm guessing that would be very expensive...

7170 BTCs minus reserves if any. But then future profits could be paid as dividends to shareholders to compensate for the massive sharedilution that would be necessary to bail out BTER.
Not sure how willing shareholders would be to do such acquisition. Personnaly I would throw a bunch of money in support of the price if this happens as Bitshares would suddenly become a major player in the crypto space and it would get a very positive image for saving the day.

It won't be a 7170 BTC bailout, that money is gone. What they can expect is some compensation. Maybe they are offered some assets in lieu which entitles them to a portion of the income.

One benefit for us would be the snapshot/vested balance issue.

Their business is potentially worth much more than 7170 BTC and they would have no problem raising that much from a VC. 2M USD is pocket change for a VC. As a long time partner of BTER Bitshares is in a great position to close a deal first but we shouldn't ruin that opportunity by making a low ball offer.

A share dilution to support shorting 7170 bitBTC won't even affect the BTS price since the created BTS will be immediately locked in as collateral so it won't inflate the money supply.

Quote from: Akado on February 15, 2015, 09:46:53 pm

If i remember correctly someone on bitcointalk said we were missing an announcement thread. I think this comes in great timing. If it wasn't done already, it should be done to take maximum advantage of this situation.

Well, I did just post this over on the puppies thread. 
I suppose someone could use this as the start of an announcement.
What else should it say?

Quote from: StanLarimer on February 15, 2015, 11:45:28 pm

Sad to see another centralized exchange get into trouble.  This hurts us all.

But this is also exactly what the BitShares Decentralized Exchange was designed to solve.  Even if you're not ready to invest in BitShares, you can still use its services to control your own destiny.

You run the exchange and control all your own keys!

You always keep your assets in your own wallet and you can then trade between them without anything leaving your wallet, accomplishing the same thing you do on centralized exchanges.  Instead of continuous 24x7 exposure of your assets to hackers on a centralized exchange, this now only happens for the few minutes you spend moving through a gateway or bridge when you want to get your hands on the actual asset.

Most of the time, you don't really want the asset, you want the exposure to that asset's price characteristics.  So you hold bitAssets in your own wallet and hop around between bitUSD, bitGold, bitCNY, bitSilver, bitEUR, bitBTC and BTS.  This set will grow, but that's a pretty good mix for trading against big movements in crypto vs. fiat.

And it stays in your own wallet where moths and rust do not consume and thieves don't break in to steal.

The chances of a hacker timing their hack to the moment you are using a centralized gateway to move in and out of the BitShares Decentralized Exchange is vanishingly small.  And you can pick your gateway at the last minute from a growing list of options.

This way, you can quickly move from the BitShares Decentralized Exchange into your favorite leading coin just in time to spend it.

And earn a bit of interest in the mean time.