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Title: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 06, 2014, 02:22:44 am
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For those of you not on our mailing list, here is July's Newsletter, celebrating our First Anniversary and the Top Ten things worth getting excited about right now.

http://bitshares.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/News-Letter-08-July-2014.pdf (http://bitshares.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/News-Letter-08-July-2014.pdf)
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: ripplexiaoshan on July 06, 2014, 02:26:33 am
 +5% +5% +5% +5% +5%

Counting down moment...
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Empirical1 on July 06, 2014, 02:27:48 am
 +5% Great newsletter!  :D

Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: liondani on July 06, 2014, 03:13:41 am
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Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: solaaire on July 06, 2014, 05:25:18 am
best newsletter yet!  +5%

one minor error - at the end of the first paragraph of "REASON 2" there is an extra space before the final period
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: solaaire on July 06, 2014, 05:26:41 am
oh and it looks like the URL http://dacsunlimited.com/ isn't working as well
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: urbanpauper on July 06, 2014, 06:11:41 am
oh and it looks like the URL http://dacsunlimited.com/ isn't working as well

Try http://www.dacsunlimited.com/
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: solaaire on July 06, 2014, 06:17:43 am
one more thing - "Reason 3" bitshares.p2p section, release is spelled wrong
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: xeroc on July 06, 2014, 06:19:10 am
Its a shame the community hasnt had a chance to proof read before publishing .. wtf are we good for? I feel useless!
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: solaaire on July 06, 2014, 06:20:59 am
oh and it looks like the URL http://dacsunlimited.com/ isn't working as well

Try http://www.dacsunlimited.com/

yep, works fine with the www. thanks
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Amazon on July 06, 2014, 07:18:58 am
 +5%
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: liondani on July 06, 2014, 08:20:51 am
Its a shame the community hasn't had a chance to proof read before publishing .. wtf are we good for? I feel useless!

Don't overact, you are already doing so much and your efforts are appreciated from all of us, you don't need to prove it every single minute!
After all it was a great surprise, and we welcome such surprises  ;)

I am sure I3 need as right know more on the dry run testings instead "taking" our time on proof reads   :)
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: vlight on July 06, 2014, 08:46:31 am
http://www.fiverr.com/search/gigs?query=proofread (http://www.fiverr.com/search/gigs?query=proofread)

 ::)
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: muse-umum on July 06, 2014, 09:48:05 am
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Their first release will include the ability to trade BTSX bitshares and issue custom user assets.
(Yes, BTSX will have BitShares ME built in!)

btsx直接包含BitShares ME了。
哦 那BTS me 不是还没拍照吗?
那包含进去的话,怎么算,难道这4个多月 大家捐的ags 都分不到一点me的股份?

The ability to issue custom assets will be present in BTSX for use in special cases.  This does not mean that a separate ME chain will not be released for both general public use and special applications like BitShares music.  The toolkit makes it possible for DACs to mix and match such features easily.

@stan
What kinds of special cases?
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: liondani on July 06, 2014, 11:08:52 am
oh and it looks like the URL http://dacsunlimited.com/ isn't working as well

must fix it on the pdf file to!!!
and why not English ?
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: vlight on July 06, 2014, 11:21:32 am
oh and it looks like the URL http://dacsunlimited.com/ isn't working as well

must fix it on the pdf file to!!!
and why not English ?
Looks like someone needs to fix  forwarding at godaddy.
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 06, 2014, 12:59:47 pm
Its a shame the community hasn't had a chance to proof read before publishing .. wtf are we good for? I feel useless!

Don't overact, you are already doing so much and your efforts are appreciated from all of us, you don't need to prove it every single minute!
After all it was a great surprise, and we welcome such surprises  ;)

I am sure I3 need as right know more on the dry run testings instead "taking" our time on proof reads   :)

Sorry about that.  Having the community proof-read it is my preferred approach too.  I had to trade that off against a desire to release it on the Fourth of July anniversary date and just ran out of time.
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: liondani on July 06, 2014, 01:08:58 pm
Something I don't liked is the intentions to use for the original  BitSharesX the symbol BTSX
I don't like it because it is 4 letter's (to much to remember)
I thing much better is 3 letter's (professional, more respectfull,easier)

something like  BSX (from the capitals of BitSharesX)
or BTX, XBS, etc...
is to late for a pool post to vote about that?
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 06, 2014, 01:12:32 pm
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Their first release will include the ability to trade BTSX bitshares and issue custom user assets.
(Yes, BTSX will have BitShares ME built in!)

btsx直接包含BitShares ME了。
哦 那BTS me 不是还没拍照吗?
那包含进去的话,怎么算,难道这4个多月 大家捐的ags 都分不到一点me的股份?

The ability to issue custom assets will be present in BTSX for use in special cases.  This does not mean that a separate ME chain will not be released for both general public use and special applications like BitShares music.  The toolkit makes it possible for DACs to mix and match such features easily.

@stan
What kinds of special cases?

We demonstrated the ME functionality in the prototype XT chain.  Now we'll have to see how DACS Unlimited configures them in their X release.  In general, it would be nice to use it to enable adding a few big names after launch without cluttering up the first chain with too many small fish.  Tuning the parameters so that market forces produce that result is the challenge.

Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 06, 2014, 01:15:39 pm
Something I don't liked is the intentions to use for the original  BitSharesX the symbol BTSX
I don't like it because it is 4 letter's (to much to remember)
I thing much better is 3 letter's (professional, more respectfull,easier)

something like  BSX (from the capitals of BitSharesX)
or BTX, XBS, etc...
is to late for a pool post to vote about that?

The thinking is that currencies use three letters (USD, EUR, etc.) while businesses have begun to use four (APPL, MSFT, etc).
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: cass on July 06, 2014, 01:16:02 pm
Its a shame the community hasn't had a chance to proof read before publishing .. wtf are we good for? I feel useless!

Don't overact, you are already doing so much and your efforts are appreciated from all of us, you don't need to prove it every single minute!
After all it was a great surprise, and we welcome such surprises  ;)

I am sure I3 need as right know more on the dry run testings instead "taking" our time on proof reads   :)

Sorry about that.  Having the community proof-read it is my preferred approach too.  I had to trade that off against a desire to release it on the Fourth of July anniversary date and just ran out of time.

ok understand this! :) Also understand xerocs concerns about! For next newsletter we should make collaborative proof reading and themes collection!
xerocs maybe  over your pad. site, what do you thinking !?
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: cass on July 06, 2014, 01:17:35 pm
Something I don't liked is the intentions to use for the original  BitSharesX the symbol BTSX
I don't like it because it is 4 letter's (to much to remember)
I thing much better is 3 letter's (professional, more respectfull,easier)

something like  BSX (from the capitals of BitSharesX)
or BTX, XBS, etc...
is to late for a pool post to vote about that?

The thinking is that currencies use three letters (USD, EUR, etc.) while businesses have begun to use four (APPL, MSFT, etc).

agreed and also thinking 4 letters --> easier to save ... cause hundrets of 3 letter currencies out there ...my 2 BTSX
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: xeroc on July 06, 2014, 01:41:41 pm
Its a shame the community hasn't had a chance to proof read before publishing .. wtf are we good for? I feel useless!

Don't overact, you are already doing so much and your efforts are appreciated from all of us, you don't need to prove it every single minute!
After all it was a great surprise, and we welcome such surprises  ;)

I am sure I3 need as right know more on the dry run testings instead "taking" our time on proof reads   :)

Sorry about that.  Having the community proof-read it is my preferred approach too.  I had to trade that off against a desire to release it on the Fourth of July anniversary date and just ran out of time.
That explains alot ..

@cass: not nesessary need to use the pad .. a pdf would be enough .. just that minor mistakes (punctuation, urls) can be tripple checked ..

Anyway .. the newsletter came as a surprise
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: itnom on July 06, 2014, 03:47:04 pm
Whohoooo made it indirectly into the July newsletter :D

Best newsletter so far. I think the graph comparing Github activity of the Bitshares toolkit to Ethereum was great. For potential investors and stakeholders such substantive comparisons are much more important than high level overviews.

If you guys think a more professional newsletter design would be beneficial to the community let me know! Always looking to get the message across to more people.

Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Empirical1 on July 06, 2014, 04:13:42 pm
Again loved the newsletter  +5%

But just wondering if you are able to give any clarity on when we will know the specific PTS allocations for those companies.

Obviously the Key ones BitShares Lotto/.p2p/Music will form the base for valuing BitShares-PTS for the next months...

So whatever you value their combined starting CAP at, for example $100 Million,

- the difference between PTS getting the minimum of 10%, compared to say 45% on the high side is pretty dramatic in terms of investors trying to value PTS without the information I3 &/or the developers may have. So if we can get any added clarity/ballpark figures but not commitments etc. with where you and those developers thinking is at as you move forward it can really help imo.
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: NewMine on July 06, 2014, 06:53:16 pm
Something I don't liked is the intentions to use for the original  BitSharesX the symbol BTSX
I don't like it because it is 4 letter's (to much to remember)
I thing much better is 3 letter's (professional, more respectfull,easier)

something like  BSX (from the capitals of BitSharesX)
or BTX, XBS, etc...
is to late for a pool post to vote about that?

The thinking is that currencies use three letters (USD, EUR, etc.) while businesses have begun to use four (APPL, MSFT, etc).


The four letter ticker is usually ascribed to NASDAQ listed companies. It is not new. It's just you have begun to hear more about them because most high and fast growing companies you hear about are tech companies. Those companies tend to get listed on the NASDAQ. There are only 3 companies in the Dow Industrial 30 with four letter tickers, CSCO, INTC, MSFT, all of them are tech listed on the NASdAQ but traded everywhere.

Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 06, 2014, 07:54:28 pm
Again loved the newsletter  +5%

But just wondering if you are able to give any clarity on when we will know the specific PTS allocations for those companies.

Obviously the Key ones BitShares Lotto/.p2p/Music will form the base for valuing BitShares-PTS for the next months...

So whatever you value their combined starting CAP at, for example $100 Million,

- the difference between PTS getting the minimum of 10%, compared to say 45% on the high side is pretty dramatic in terms of investors trying to value PTS without the information I3 &/or the developers may have. So if we can get any added clarity/ballpark figures but not commitments etc. with where you and those developers thinking is at as you move forward it can really help imo.

Each developer has to make that call sometime before their snapshot.  Many want to wait and interact with the community as long as possible before committing - since new considerations seem to come up every day.

You make a great point about PTS value depending on knowing, but individual developers are more concerned about getting their mix right than day-to-day PTS values.

Assume 10% and then be pleasantly surprised if a developer gives us more?  :)
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: cass on July 06, 2014, 08:18:02 pm
Whohoooo made it indirectly into the July newsletter :D

Best newsletter so far. I think the graph comparing Github activity of the Bitshares toolkit to Ethereum was great. For potential investors and stakeholders such substantive comparisons are much more important than high level overviews.

If you guys think a more professional newsletter design would be beneficial to the community let me know! Always looking to get the message across to more people.

Thx for your help itnom. I'm on newsletter theme design currently ;)
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Empirical1 on July 06, 2014, 09:36:35 pm
Again loved the newsletter  +5%

But just wondering if you are able to give any clarity on when we will know the specific PTS allocations for those companies.

Obviously the Key ones BitShares Lotto/.p2p/Music will form the base for valuing BitShares-PTS for the next months...

So whatever you value their combined starting CAP at, for example $100 Million,

- the difference between PTS getting the minimum of 10%, compared to say 45% on the high side is pretty dramatic in terms of investors trying to value PTS without the information I3 &/or the developers may have. So if we can get any added clarity/ballpark figures but not commitments etc. with where you and those developers thinking is at as you move forward it can really help imo.

Each developer has to make that call sometime before their snapshot.  Many want to wait and interact with the community as long as possible before committing - since new considerations seem to come up every day.

You make a great point about PTS value depending on knowing, but individual developers are more concerned about getting their mix right than day-to-day PTS values.

Assume 10% and then be pleasantly surprised if a developer gives us more?  :)

 +5% Thanks for the reply.

My concern was also depending on how the developer goes about deciding on allocation, there's potentially a significant inside trading advantage so I was trying to mitigate that, but I agree each DAC needs to get it's own mix right as best it can, hopefully it will done with some community consultation for the ones I've indicated.
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 06, 2014, 11:59:41 pm
Whohoooo made it indirectly into the July newsletter :D

Best newsletter so far. I think the graph comparing Github activity of the Bitshares toolkit to Ethereum was great. For potential investors and stakeholders such substantive comparisons are much more important than high level overviews.

If you guys think a more professional newsletter design would be beneficial to the community let me know! Always looking to get the message across to more people.

Thx for your help itnom. I'm on newsletter theme design currently ;)

I'd like to see someone convert the current newsletter to something more professional and re-release it, just for demo purposes...
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 07, 2014, 12:16:23 am
Its a shame the community hasn't had a chance to proof read before publishing .. wtf are we good for? I feel useless!

Don't overact, you are already doing so much and your efforts are appreciated from all of us, you don't need to prove it every single minute!
After all it was a great surprise, and we welcome such surprises  ;)

I am sure I3 need as right know more on the dry run testings instead "taking" our time on proof reads   :)

Sorry about that.  Having the community proof-read it is my preferred approach too.  I had to trade that off against a desire to release it on the Fourth of July anniversary date and just ran out of time.
That explains alot ..

@cass: not nesessary need to use the pad .. a pdf would be enough .. just that minor mistakes (punctuation, urls) can be tripple checked ..

Anyway .. the newsletter came as a surprise

A newsletter, like many things, is a dish best served cold...   :)

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Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Simeon II on July 07, 2014, 12:33:30 am

From the newsletter:
>>DACs Unlimited (dacsunlimited.com) will release BitShares X.


Very appropriate site http://dacsunlimited.com/,  imho, a lot of promise and ... no content.

 Just like an exchange, with no trades on it.

:D


Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: onceuponatime on July 07, 2014, 03:39:41 am

From the newsletter:
>>DACs Unlimited (dacsunlimited.com) will release BitShares X.


Very appropriate site http://dacsunlimited.com/,  imho, a lot of promise and ... no content.

 Just like an exchange, with no trades on it.

:D


http://www.dacsunlimited.com/
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: puppies on July 08, 2014, 02:06:30 am
Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 08, 2014, 04:45:02 am
Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?

No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: puppies on July 08, 2014, 05:05:49 am
Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?

No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)
Thanks Stan.   it's exciting to see this coming to fruition.   I'm glad it's going to be a global release as well.

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Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: yellowecho on July 08, 2014, 10:02:59 pm
No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)

Who is the person behind DACs Unlimited?  Their site doesn't contain any info in the About Us section.
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: bdnoble on July 11, 2014, 08:17:59 pm

Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?

No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)

Actually I feel like this doesn't answer the question. If I can't read Chinese, how am I supposed to know when the release happens? I understand there will be an English version of the platform launched but I was hoping to be a delegate and at the moment the way the registration fees exponentially increase I have a matter of hours to get in on the delegate party. Having to keep track of a Chinese website is going to severely limit that possibility. Plus this still doesn't tell us anything about dacsunlimitted. Who are they? How can we trust them? Even when I google translate the website there seemingly is almost no meaningful information.

Isn't there anyone else nervous about this?


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Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 12, 2014, 02:02:40 am

Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?

No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)

Actually I feel like this doesn't answer the question. If I can't read Chinese, how am I supposed to know when the release happens? I understand there will be an English version of the platform launched but I was hoping to be a delegate and at the moment the way the registration fees exponentially increase I have a matter of hours to get in on the delegate party. Having to keep track of a Chinese website is going to severely limit that possibility. Plus this still doesn't tell us anything about dacsunlimitted. Who are they? How can we trust them? Even when I google translate the website there seemingly is almost no meaningful information.

Isn't there anyone else nervous about this?


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Several well-known members of our community wanted to hitch their careers to the BitShares X freight train and work on the operational side of BTSX and other DACs.  So they have gone off to form their own DAC company in a jurisdiction where there is more freedom to do so.  They have also recruited some great new talent.  They are currently working toward a dual Chinese/English launch that is fair to both hemispheres and involves multiple exchanges.

Meanwhile, as we have long indicated, we intend to focus on R&D, toolkit development, and promoting a decentralized industry -- while relying on independent developers to customize, launch and operate all DACs.  We are forging ahead with new toolkit features that may or may not be included in the first BTSX launch, at their discretion. 

Naturally, we were delighted to see such a company emerge to launch BitShares X.  The fact that it involved people we know and trust made it a no-brainer perfect solution that met everybody's needs.  As an independent developer honoring the BitShares Social Consensus, they are entitled to our full-scale support as an incubator of DAC incubators.

As for who the specific individuals are.  That's for them to announce when they are ready to do so.
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Empirical1 on July 12, 2014, 02:55:03 am

Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?

No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)

Actually I feel like this doesn't answer the question. If I can't read Chinese, how am I supposed to know when the release happens? I understand there will be an English version of the platform launched but I was hoping to be a delegate and at the moment the way the registration fees exponentially increase I have a matter of hours to get in on the delegate party. Having to keep track of a Chinese website is going to severely limit that possibility. Plus this still doesn't tell us anything about dacsunlimitted. Who are they? How can we trust them? Even when I google translate the website there seemingly is almost no meaningful information.

Isn't there anyone else nervous about this?


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Several well-known members of our community wanted to hitch their careers to the BitShares X freight train and work on the operational side of BTSX and other DACs.  So they have gone off to form their own DAC company in a jurisdiction where there is more freedom to do so.  They have also recruited some great new talent.  They are currently working toward a dual Chinese/English launch that is fair to both hemispheres and involves multiple exchanges.

Meanwhile, as we have long indicated, we intend to focus on R&D, toolkit development, and promoting a decentralized industry -- while relying on independent developers to customize, launch and operate all DACs.  We are forging ahead with new toolkit features that may or may not be included in the first BTSX launch, at their discretion. 

Naturally, we were delighted to see such a company emerge to launch BitShares X.  The fact that it involved people we know and trust made it a no-brainer perfect solution that met everybody's needs.  As an independent developer honoring the BitShares Social Consensus, they are entitled to our full-scale support as an incubator of DAC incubators.

As for who the specific individuals are.  That's for them to announce when they are ready to do so.

 +5%
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: solaaire on July 12, 2014, 03:43:55 am
awesome, thanks for the clarification stan
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on July 12, 2014, 06:24:56 am
After reading the newsletter I feel super informed and plain happy. The links, picture, everything that happened the last months gets explained in simple words. Easy to comprehend.. great job!
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: bdnoble on July 12, 2014, 01:13:08 pm


Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?

No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)

Actually I feel like this doesn't answer the question. If I can't read Chinese, how am I supposed to know when the release happens? I understand there will be an English version of the platform launched but I was hoping to be a delegate and at the moment the way the registration fees exponentially increase I have a matter of hours to get in on the delegate party. Having to keep track of a Chinese website is going to severely limit that possibility. Plus this still doesn't tell us anything about dacsunlimitted. Who are they? How can we trust them? Even when I google translate the website there seemingly is almost no meaningful information.

Isn't there anyone else nervous about this?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Several well-known members of our community wanted to hitch their careers to the BitShares X freight train and work on the operational side of BTSX and other DACs.  So they have gone off to form their own DAC company in a jurisdiction where there is more freedom to do so.  They have also recruited some great new talent.  They are currently working toward a dual Chinese/English launch that is fair to both hemispheres and involves multiple exchanges.

Meanwhile, as we have long indicated, we intend to focus on R&D, toolkit development, and promoting a decentralized industry -- while relying on independent developers to customize, launch and operate all DACs.  We are forging ahead with new toolkit features that may or may not be included in the first BTSX launch, at their discretion. 

Naturally, we were delighted to see such a company emerge to launch BitShares X.  The fact that it involved people we know and trust made it a no-brainer perfect solution that met everybody's needs.  As an independent developer honoring the BitShares Social Consensus, they are entitled to our full-scale support as an incubator of DAC incubators.

As for who the specific individuals are.  That's for them to announce when they are ready to do so.

That does help me feel better. But my question is, there will be links to download everything here and on BitShares.org right? Will they have a separate github location or just binaries? How much notice will we get on the final release date and time? There was mention before of two weeks notice. I feel like that really needs to be the case.


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Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: Stan on July 12, 2014, 02:08:35 pm


Is there any hope of us english speakers being able to get in on the mix?  Some of us had hopes of being delegates on the live network.  If we get too late of a start thats not going to happen with out massive reserves.  I don't care if the gui is in chinese,(could always just swap out the htdocs)  but will the command line commands still work?  Is there anyone that could give us english updates on where the official source code can be procured, and what the launch schedule is?

No worries.  The person doing the BTSX clone from our XT prototype (which is already in English) has assured me that he intends to release English and Chinese versions concurrently.  They would be crazy to do otherwise.  The English command lines will also remain available.   :)

Actually I feel like this doesn't answer the question. If I can't read Chinese, how am I supposed to know when the release happens? I understand there will be an English version of the platform launched but I was hoping to be a delegate and at the moment the way the registration fees exponentially increase I have a matter of hours to get in on the delegate party. Having to keep track of a Chinese website is going to severely limit that possibility. Plus this still doesn't tell us anything about dacsunlimitted. Who are they? How can we trust them? Even when I google translate the website there seemingly is almost no meaningful information.

Isn't there anyone else nervous about this?


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Several well-known members of our community wanted to hitch their careers to the BitShares X freight train and work on the operational side of BTSX and other DACs.  So they have gone off to form their own DAC company in a jurisdiction where there is more freedom to do so.  They have also recruited some great new talent.  They are currently working toward a dual Chinese/English launch that is fair to both hemispheres and involves multiple exchanges.

Meanwhile, as we have long indicated, we intend to focus on R&D, toolkit development, and promoting a decentralized industry -- while relying on independent developers to customize, launch and operate all DACs.  We are forging ahead with new toolkit features that may or may not be included in the first BTSX launch, at their discretion. 

Naturally, we were delighted to see such a company emerge to launch BitShares X.  The fact that it involved people we know and trust made it a no-brainer perfect solution that met everybody's needs.  As an independent developer honoring the BitShares Social Consensus, they are entitled to our full-scale support as an incubator of DAC incubators.

As for who the specific individuals are.  That's for them to announce when they are ready to do so.

That does help me feel better. But my question is, there will be links to download everything here and on BitShares.org right? Will they have a separate github location or just binaries? How much notice will we get on the final release date and time? There was mention before of two weeks notice. I feel like that really needs to be the case.


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This forum and our mailing list will be used to let everyone know as soon as we know.  All the dry runs constitute a building tidal wave of attention-grabbing activity and should have given everyone plenty of time to get familiar with the version they need for their OS.

The two-week notice rule is for doing a snapshot - so that people can get their PTS out of the exchanges and back into the wallets they want to use to receive the new DACs promotional shares.  We pointed out on July 4th that the final AGS snapshot for all remaining DACs will, by definition, occur on Day 200, July 18.  PTS snapshots will occur as each DAC is announced with two weeks notice.  The snapshot for BTSX was Feb 28.

As for notification of actual BTSX launch, we've been saying for weeks now that release is imminent - meaning it could happen any day.  Almost certainly this month (assuming nothing unacceptable is suddenly discovered in the ongoing testing). 

That said, the market value of BTSX will be influenced by how smoothly and professionally the launch is handled.  We want to make sure that we have clear instructions and and a good experience available for all the newbies that will be attracted when they suddenly see BitShares X join BitShares PTS in the Top Ten**.  To make that happen means that multiple exchanges need to be ready to go too. 

Our whole community documentation team is being asked to assist DACSunlimited in getting their site ready.  This is a good old-fasioned barn raising - for those who remember what that means. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn_raising
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn_raising)
(http://publiclaboratory.org/sites/default/files/barn-raising.jpeg)

There will be both binaries and links to a separate GitHub at dacsunlimited.com and/or bitshares-x.info as well as links to these key pages from bitshares.org.

We agree that it is in everyone's best interest that this is done carefully... now that we finally have the working software that has been so long in the making.  Meanwhile, let's all enjoy this moment in history.

**(among all assets not currently in the Top Three)   :)
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: cgafeng on July 12, 2014, 02:43:09 pm
good job!
Title: Re: July Newsletter
Post by: bdnoble on July 12, 2014, 03:33:33 pm
Okay Stan. I get it! Very excited for the future! =D


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