That's the advantage of having IDs, KYC stuff, etc, which I believe is not BitShares domain.
I think we do really have to be careful about cache clearing. Can't we have a modal pop up immediately after signup to require users to download the default.bin file? If someone clicks 'No' on the backup option, I would have the modal pop up again asking 'Are you sure?'.. and if the user clicks 'No' a third time .. I would have the modal pop up again with the brain key.... we should have a modal pop up five times before allowing a user to click through without any backup....
However, do create a new account and post the name here. I'll donate some of my BTS to you because you have earned it...
Unfortunately my experience with bitshares hasn't been a great one since 2.0. I had browser issues with my safari and a particular plugin which caused me to clear my cache. At that time I thought the open ledger password and my brain key were the same thing, so I didn't worry I was confident that my password was assuring the safety of my bitshares as backing up my brain key was only a 'recommendation' unlike now where its become mandatory. :(
You are maximaly encouraged to make a backup
clearing Browser cache usually does not clear tge database used for your wallet ..
You are maximaly encouraged to make a backup
clearing Browser cache usually does not clear tge database used for your wallet ..
how often do you need to make a backup? One time after import? After every transaction? If you clear your browser cache, do you need to keep loading from your backup?
Admittedly, I have not seen the 'maximaly encouraged' warning message. Does it CLEARLY (to grandma) describe the risks of not making a backup? Does is tell you when or how often to make backups?
Bitshares 1.0 was notoriously known for not having user friendly help messages.
Tony, great post you have inspired changes in the platform. Thanks for all your hard work to share your story. I suggest to forget about the account "name" it is gone.
However, do create a new account and post the name here. I'll donate some of my BTS to you because you have earned it...
Backup file + passphrase!
brainkey is a part of the file
Have you tried with some data recovery software?
The wallet is good now at making that clear that a backup is 'REQUIRED' but when 2.0 was just released it was a 'RECOMMENDATION' thats where I think part of the issue came into play. I assumed that the password encrypted a brainkey/wallet or something. Knowing that my passwords are always stored in the apple encrypted keychain I felt confident a 'RECOMMENDATION' wasn't necessary.
From what I've seen, the wallet's pretty good at telling you when you should backup:
- After you create a new wallet/account
- After importing keys
AFAIK, that covers >99% of the cases where you'd want to save a fresh backup.
So Ive noticed there has been changes to wallet recovery which is positive.
Ive not been able to recovery my tony-hughes account but with a backed up brainkey I've been able to recover 'tony-hughes-design' so that will be my bitshares wallet from now on.
I must add I tried to back up the brainkey this time to see how it works.. and unfortunately when I'm presented with this page
Create Backup
bts_default.bin (1377 bytes)
and try to click the bts_default.bin it dumps me to a new window in safari but no files are downloaded so the is some kind of problem there, unless the bitshares community are only using chrome or something. Once its dumped you to the blank window you don't get a second change to back up your brainkey so the is an issue here.
This could give any Apple OS X user the impression that their wallet might of been backed up somehow. Due to the fact they won't be given the opportunity to backup the brainkey again.
This is really an issue which needs to be resolved so others don't lose their brain keys / wallets.
But I see the whole openledger site going in the right direction.
The 'create backup' creates a backup wallet which is a binary file. Save this binary file securely.
I think it is a known bug in safari. Try with chrome or use the light wallet for now
I think it is a known bug in safari. Try with chrome or use the light wallet for now
I can understand that.. but this is peoples money! I've lost 100,000 bitshares at the hype period of 2.0 which was like 350$.. you can't have these mistakes or bugs with publicly released software.
I think it is a known bug in safari. Try with chrome or use the light wallet for now
I can understand that.. but this is peoples money! I've lost 100,000 bitshares at the hype period of 2.0 which was like 350$.. you can't have these mistakes or bugs with publicly released software.
You have that protocol implemented already?!?!
I do have the green light to backup on the server... DL has vetted a protocol to save the wallets on the server and I'll be putting it to the test.
You have that protocol implemented already?!?!
Boa .. that is so awesome!
Does this mean that EVERY wallet now will have a copy stored in the server? will it be optional?Optional .. you can opt out